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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #400 on: December 15, 2021, 04:11:44 pm »
She's claiming Mike Lee the senator from Utah is the guy on the flights. Her only evidence is the name - which is a pretty common one. I'll wait for some actual evidence that it was that Mike Lee.
Yeah she also tried to smear Cruz by association saying he is a friend of Lee's. I wonder, just for shits and giggles you know, how many people in and outside Hollywood or the Beltway were friends of or knew people that flew on Epstein's flights that are totally innocent of anything but association.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #401 on: December 16, 2021, 06:02:29 pm »
BREAKING: Search warrant is issued for Alec Baldwin's phone weeks after fatal shooting of cinematographer on Rust set

    Baldwin shot and killed Halyna Hutchins, a 42-year-old cinematographer, on the set of Rust on October 21
    Baldwin, 63, was holding a gun that he says went off without him pulling the trigger and wounded her
    He told ABC on December 2 that he doesn't feel responsible, and that someone else is to blame but he wouldn't say who
    Baldwin also said he'd have killed himself if he did feel guilty and that he doesn't think he'll face criminal charges
    Baldwin said that he didn't even realize he had shot Hutchins until an hour after the incident
    He said he didn't know she'd died until sheriffs told him at the end of his interview in Sante Fe
    Baldwin insists he thought the gun was empty, as did others on the set, when it was handed to him

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #403 on: December 16, 2021, 07:07:46 pm »

https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1471615554502856705

I wonder if we'll find out there was more going on --- whatever it might have been --- between Baldwin and his victim than meets the eye.   :pondering:

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #404 on: December 16, 2021, 07:48:41 pm »
For anyone that even remotely buys Baldwins bullshit about that revolver just firing on its own without him pulling the trigger I submit for your perusal this video from Brandon Herrera. He has a YouTube channel I find enjoyable. Oh yeah, language warning.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5NI1fTx8tI&ab_channel=BrandonHerrera

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #405 on: December 16, 2021, 07:56:33 pm »
I wonder if we'll find out there was more going on --- whatever it might have been --- between Baldwin and his victim than meets the eye.   :pondering:


I say yes. Alec is a woman hater and abuses females.  One tactic for men who abuse women, is to show a gun. ( My book of BATTERED woman.)  It was Oct. and some say a satanist ritual was performed. He pointed the gun, he cocked it, then put his finger on the trigger.  He claims he does not remember?  I am waiting for the BLAME THE WOMAN, on this shooting.

Next, it will be, he defended himself....from her.   


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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #406 on: December 16, 2021, 08:09:01 pm »
I agree. These people would have money, connections, etc.

While possible more than one have the same name, or the name of someone else who is prominent but not involved, it becomes far less likely that 'just any' person would be on those flights.
Money, influence, power, or motives of looking for leverage on the person would shrink the pool. Fry cooks need not apply.
Those criteria would limit the pool from which the passengers on the 'express' would be drawn, and increase the probability that someone on the list would be "The" (fill in name) rather than just another (fill in name).

Thank you. That is all I am saying.  Mike Lee and Ted Cruz are BFF'S.  Now, I have to check my saved files to prove that out. I have never been a liar. I like facts. 

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #407 on: December 16, 2021, 08:19:14 pm »
From Mike Lee's own lips. His BFF, is Ted Cruz. And POTUS TRUMP never said anything like the below.  ROGER STONE had an article in his Enquirer magazine and they want to put that on POTUS TRUMP.  Mike Lee, was just a bit nuts, with everything he said.  I also, just pointed out a name.  Mormons support Islam.
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Pressed during a telephone interview Wednesday night to explain why he has not yet endorsed Donald Trump’s presidential bid, Sen. Mike Lee unloaded.

“Hey look, Steve, I get it. You want me to endorse Trump,” Lee (R-Utah) told NewsMaxTV host Steve Malzberg. “We can get into that if you want. We can get into the fact that he accused my best friend’s father of conspiring to kill JFK.

We can go through the fact that he’s made statements that some have identified correctly as religiously intolerant. We can get into the fact that he’s wildly unpopular in my state, in part because my state consists of people who are members of a religious minority church. A people who were ordered exterminated by the governor of Missouri in 1838. And, statements like that make them nervous.”

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She's claiming Mike Lee the senator from Utah is the guy on the flights. Her only evidence is the name - which is a pretty common one. I'll wait for some actual evidence that it was that Mike Lee.


Yeah she also tried to smear Cruz by association saying he is a friend of Lee's. I wonder, just for shits and giggles you know, how many people in and outside Hollywood or the Beltway were friends of or knew people that flew on Epstein's flights that are totally innocent of anything but association.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #408 on: December 16, 2021, 08:22:44 pm »
From Mike Lee's own lips. His BFF, is Ted Cruz. And POTUS TRUMP...never said anything like this.  ROGER STONE had an article in his Enquirer magazine and they want to put that on POTUS TRUMP.  Mike Lee, was just a bit nuts, with everything he said.
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Pressed during a telephone interview Wednesday night to explain why he has not yet endorsed Donald Trump’s presidential bid, Sen. Mike Lee unloaded.
“Hey look, Steve, I get it. You want me to endorse Trump,” Lee (R-Utah) told NewsMaxTV host Steve Malzberg. “We can get into that if you want. We can get into the fact that he accused my best friend’s father of conspiring to kill JFK. We can go through the fact that he’s made statements that some have identified correctly as religiously intolerant. We can get into the fact that he’s wildly unpopular in my state, in part because my state consists of people who are members of a religious minority church. A people who were ordered exterminated by the governor of Missouri in 1838. And, statements like that make them nervous.”

And this has to do with what?

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #409 on: December 16, 2021, 10:51:59 pm »
And this has to do with what?
With continuing to try a slime Cruz through the name Mike Lee being on a Epstein flight log. I guess if you are a Bishop in the church of Trump your Job is to slime anyone you think is some sort of threat. Personally I think over the top worshipers have issues whether they are Obamaites or Trumpites.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #410 on: December 17, 2021, 02:43:58 am »
BREAKING: Search warrant is issued for Alec Baldwin's phone weeks after fatal shooting of cinematographer on Rust set

    Baldwin shot and killed Halyna Hutchins, a 42-year-old cinematographer, on the set of Rust on October 21
    Baldwin, 63, was holding a gun that he says went off without him pulling the trigger and wounded her
    He told ABC on December 2 that he doesn't feel responsible, and that someone else is to blame but he wouldn't say who
    Baldwin also said he'd have killed himself if he did feel guilty and that he doesn't think he'll face criminal charges
    Baldwin said that he didn't even realize he had shot Hutchins until an hour after the incident
    He said he didn't know she'd died until sheriffs told him at the end of his interview in Sante Fe
    Baldwin insists he thought the gun was empty, as did others on the set, when it was handed to him

By Harriet Alexander For Dailymail.com
Published: 17:46 EST, 16 December 2021 | Updated: 17:53 EST, 16 December 2021 ... Story at Daily Mail

Excuse my abbreviation, but WTF? It is hard to believe two people were shot and never made a ruckus over it.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #411 on: December 17, 2021, 08:42:58 am »
Excuse my abbreviation, but WTF? It is hard to believe two people were shot and never made a ruckus over it.
That's what John Schneider said in the video posted above. One cannot fire a live round from such a gun and not know it immediately.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #412 on: December 17, 2021, 09:23:46 am »
Baldwin insists he thought the gun was empty, as did others on the set, when it was handed to him

This is a self incriminating statement by Baldwin in two ways.
First: Any glance at a revolver and the rounds in the cylinder would be glaringly apparent. It is not like a semi-auto with the rounds in a mag. With a revolver nobody could handle the weapon in any way without easily seeing that it is loaded.
Second: You never point a gun at anybody no matter what, but especially if you "think" it is empty. The first thing everybody should do when handed a pistol is to determine how many rounds are available and to clear the weapon. According to standard Hollywood procedures, Baldwin had a clear duty to check the weapon. Obviously, he did not do that.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #413 on: December 17, 2021, 10:56:35 am »
Baldwin insists he thought the gun was empty, as did others on the set, when it was handed to him

This is a self incriminating statement by Baldwin in two ways.
First: Any glance at a revolver and the rounds in the cylinder would be glaringly apparent. It is not like a semi-auto with the rounds in a mag. With a revolver nobody could handle the weapon in any way without easily seeing that it is loaded.
Second: You never point a gun at anybody no matter what, but especially if you "think" it is empty. The first thing everybody should do when handed a pistol is to determine how many rounds are available and to clear the weapon. According to standard Hollywood procedures, Baldwin had a clear duty to check the weapon. Obviously, he did not do that.

BTW: I'm glad we got the thread back on track after following the NeverTrump Biden worshippers down a rabbit hole. Lately, it seems that any thread can devolve into a NeverTrumper liberals "We HATE Trump" thread just out of nowhere.

No doubt intentional derailing of the thread to take into "Oh, Jeez, not this sh*t again!" territory and stop people from reading legitimate on-topic commentary or engaging in a relevant discussion.

No way he discharged a firearm, wounding two, and didn't realize he'd shot someone. **nononono*

At least one of the victims would have reacted verbally to being wounded.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #414 on: December 17, 2021, 11:13:02 am »
No doubt intentional derailing of the thread to take into "Oh, Jeez, not this sh*t again!" territory and stop people from reading legitimate on-topic commentary or engaging in a relevant discussion.

No way he discharged a firearm, wounding two, and didn't realize he'd shot someone. **nononono*

At least one of the victims would have reacted verbally to being wounded.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #415 on: December 17, 2021, 11:22:14 am »

He lies as easily as he breathes.
Also, there is no way he thought the gun was 'empty'. The shooter would easily see the rounds in the cylinder. When he pulled the hammer back, as Baldwin has admitted he did, he would have had a clear view of the loaded round in the firing chamber.

The more Baldwin talks about what happened, the deeper he is burying himself.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #417 on: December 17, 2021, 12:55:06 pm »

    Baldwin said that he didn't even realize he had shot Hutchins until an hour after the incident
 


Was that before or after the medical evac helicopter arrived?
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #418 on: December 17, 2021, 01:39:20 pm »
Obviously a lie. The entire set would have immediately exploded in panic. If help was not called until an hour after the shooting, that could only happen if Baldwin "ordered" them not to call and to keep it quiet. Until he no longer had a choice and had to call paramedics and police.

Likely in my opinion, they will find that the first person he called was his lawyer. And his lawyer told him that he must call for help.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #419 on: December 17, 2021, 02:36:55 pm »
Obviously a lie. The entire set would have immediately exploded in panic. If help was not called until an hour after the shooting, that could only happen if Baldwin "ordered" them not to call and to keep it quiet. Until he no longer had a choice and had to call paramedics and police.

Likely in my opinion, they will find that the first person he called was his lawyer. And his lawyer told him that he must call for help.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #420 on: December 17, 2021, 02:44:25 pm »
Alec Baldwin Requested Larger Gun Before Fatal Shooting on 'Rust' Movie Set, Police Say

Actor Alec Baldwin "requested a bigger gun" before the incident that left cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead and director Joel Souza injured on the set of the movie Rust in October, police said.

An investigation of the deadly shooting recently revealed that Baldwin had discussed his choice of weapon with Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed via email, according to an affidavit from Detective Alexandria Hancock, which was included in a search warrant issued to acquire Baldwin's cell phone on Thursday.

"Alec said since they were in rehearsal, he assumed he had an empty gun, therefore when he shot the gun, Haylena [sic] was right in front of him," Hancock wrote. "Alec described the gun to be a 'period' Colt. He said there were emails transferred back and forth between Hannah and him where she showed him different styles of guns."

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #421 on: December 17, 2021, 03:10:53 pm »
Key word is assumed.

Assuming without checking if the gun was loaded is what caused the death and injury.

He's responsible.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #422 on: December 17, 2021, 03:33:21 pm »
Alec Baldwin Requested Larger Gun Before Fatal Shooting on 'Rust' Movie Set, Police Say

Actor Alec Baldwin "requested a bigger gun" before the incident that left cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead and director Joel Souza injured on the set of the movie Rust in October, police said.

An investigation of the deadly shooting recently revealed that Baldwin had discussed his choice of weapon with Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed via email, according to an affidavit from Detective Alexandria Hancock, which was included in a search warrant issued to acquire Baldwin's cell phone on Thursday.

"Alec said since they were in rehearsal, he assumed he had an empty gun, therefore when he shot the gun, Haylena [sic] was right in front of him," Hancock wrote. "Alec described the gun to be a 'period' Colt. He said there were emails transferred back and forth between Hannah and him where she showed him different styles of guns."

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #423 on: December 17, 2021, 05:06:31 pm »
Hanna Reed is the designated scapegoat. She's young and poor.
I understand what you mean, but this case is so serious I don't see that happening. All the people involved want somebody to pay. That young girl can't even pay her rent. I doubt the plaintiffs will allow her to be substituted for deep-pockets Baldwin. They will simply not accept it. And even if Baldwin pawns off some of the criminal charges, as the perp and the producer and the owner of the production company, he will still get crucified in civil court.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #424 on: December 17, 2021, 05:11:58 pm »
That's what John Schneider said in the video posted above. One cannot fire a live round from such a gun and not know it immediately.

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« Reply #425 on: December 17, 2021, 05:15:22 pm »
Hanna Reed is the designated scapegoat. She's young and poor.

Assumed?  Too bad he didn't test it first on his own head.  I bet he would have CHECKED it...first.  What a clown.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #426 on: December 17, 2021, 06:01:37 pm »
I understand what you mean, but this case is so serious I don't see that happening. All the people involved want somebody to pay. That young girl can't even pay her rent. I doubt the plaintiffs will allow her to be substituted for deep-pockets Baldwin. They will simply not accept it. And even if Baldwin pawns off some of the criminal charges, as the perp and the producer and the owner of the production company, he will still get crucified in civil court.

I'm partial. Hannah Reed can't pay her rent for a hovel in my little town.....
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« Reply #427 on: December 17, 2021, 06:23:14 pm »
Hanna Reed is the designated scapegoat. She's young and poor.
I believe it. It may be that no one ends of paying for this crime. Will the victim's family be paid off enough (by Baldwin, of course, not Miss Reed) not to agitate for criminal charges?
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« Reply #428 on: December 20, 2021, 10:58:24 am »
Hamptons cops pull over Alec Baldwin, Hilaria after warrant issued for his phone

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December 20, 2021 8:08am  Updated


Alec Baldwin and his wife, Hilaria, were pulled over by police in the Hamptons Saturday — two days after investigators issued a search warrant for the embattled actor’s cellphone, photos show.

Baldwin, 63, was photographed sitting inside the car while Hilaria, 37, spoke with a cop on the side of the road before pulling out her phone and showing the screen.

The yoga instructor, who was wearing a long green coat and a white baseball cap, spoke calmly with the officer before returning to the vehicle, according to the US Sun.

It is not immediately clear why the couple was pulled over.

Baldwin also was photographed later as he stopped to pick up coffee and snacks while his wife remained in their car.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #430 on: January 10, 2022, 02:00:10 pm »
Why experts say Alec Baldwin hasn’t handed over his phone
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Alec Baldwin, who has yet to turn over his cellphone to law enforcement in connection with the law enforcement investigation into the fatal shooting on the set of the movie “Rust, may be holding onto the device for a number of reasons, legal experts told The Post on Friday.

The lawyers theorized that the 63-year old actor may be concerned about the possibility of “incriminating” evidence on the phone— including deleted texts or photos that could hold him in criminal contempt–or may simply want to keep his private conversations out of the public eye.

“There could be incriminating evidence on the phone, or it might be for privacy reasons,” said Kevin Kearon, a former Nassau District Attorney’s Office who’s now a  criminal defense lawyer.

“If he deleted text messages or call records then he would face the possibility of criminal contempt,” said Kearon, who works at the Long Island firm Barket Epstein Kearon. “Or if there are personal messages, for example, between he and his wife, it’s not shocking that he wouldn’t want them in the public domain.”  ...
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #431 on: January 10, 2022, 02:03:31 pm »
Maybe there's incriminating evidence of other activities that, to-date, nobody else is aware of?  Perhaps that's what Baldwin is trying to protect?

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #432 on: January 10, 2022, 04:09:13 pm »
Maybe there's incriminating evidence of other activities that, to-date, nobody else is aware of?  Perhaps that's what Baldwin is trying to protect?

Short of a warrant, I wouldn't turn my phone over either, unless they were offering immunity.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #433 on: January 10, 2022, 04:11:33 pm »
Short of a warrant, I wouldn't turn my phone over either, unless they were offering immunity.

And there is a warrant for the trigger-happy Baldwin.  I guess he's allowed to take his sweet time turning his over, because left wingnut.
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« Reply #434 on: January 10, 2022, 04:30:22 pm »
And there is a warrant for the trigger-happy Baldwin.  I guess he's allowed to take his sweet time turning his over, because left wingnut.

They got a warrant?  Well why didn't you say so!

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« Reply #435 on: January 10, 2022, 05:03:29 pm »
Short of a warrant, I wouldn't turn my phone over either, unless they were offering immunity.

I believe they have a warrant; he just doesn't want to cooperate with the warrant.

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« Reply #436 on: January 10, 2022, 05:57:55 pm »
I believe they have a warrant; he just doesn't want to cooperate with the warrant.

The warrant was issued on Dec 16.

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« Reply #437 on: January 10, 2022, 07:54:30 pm »
I believe they have a warrant; he just doesn't want to cooperate with the warrant.
You mean he lied in that Twitter/Tik Tok post when he said he wanted to find the truth and that he was fully cooperating. I'm shocked, Shocked I tell you.
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« Reply #438 on: January 10, 2022, 08:38:11 pm »
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« Reply #439 on: January 10, 2022, 08:44:12 pm »
TIME defense is the issue. The longer the media and people in power can drag this out, the sooner it will be forgotten and quietly dropped.
They are just playing for time, and so far they are winning. Anyone else (not rich, famous, or connected) would be charged by now. From what I see at this point, he is going to get away with it except for all the civil suits which are definitely on the way.
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« Reply #440 on: January 10, 2022, 10:01:10 pm »
Just saw Baldwin on FOX, doing some kind of bragging about how he is getting away free.
Maybe so. But looking at him he looks like he has aged ten years overnight. Not free.
He may get away with killing that woman but there are repercussions he is paying.
You can see it written on his face.
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« Reply #442 on: January 11, 2022, 09:49:44 am »
Just saw Baldwin on FOX, doing some kind of bragging about how he is getting away free.
Maybe so. But looking at him he looks like he has aged ten years overnight. Not free.
He may get away with killing that woman but there are repercussions he is paying.
You can see it written on his face.
Absolutely agree.  He'll get away with it, but will pay for it the rest of his life.  Similar to O.J. .....

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« Reply #443 on: January 11, 2022, 03:48:48 pm »

Absolutely agree.  He'll get away with it, but will pay for it the rest of his life.  Similar to O.J. .....
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To 'curse' someone is a very delicate thing. It can be done, but it is very tricky.
The price for a curse is can be a boomerang effect. You may destroy someone else, but the curse will take you with it. This is how hate works. It will wind up on your own head. Revenge rarely is practical.

Also, what you do and who you are as a soul is on your person, and is written on your face.
Including things you do in a dark room with no witnesses and no consequences. What you do becomes a part of you that people can see and read. As you said so insightfully, what Baldwin did, accident or not, will be with him the rest of his life and historically after his life. And will be on the heads of his family and children.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #444 on: January 13, 2022, 09:02:09 pm »
Film armorer blames ammo supplier in deadly 'Rust' shooting

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A new lawsuit accuses an ammunition supplier of creating dangerous conditions on a movie set where a gun held by actor Alec Baldwin killed a cinematographer, by including live ammunition in a box that was supposed to include only dummy rounds

A new lawsuit accused an ammunition supplier Wednesday of creating dangerous conditions on a movie set where a gun held by actor Alec Baldwin killed a cinematographer, by including live ammunition in a box that was supposed to include only dummy rounds.

The lawsuit was filed in New Mexico state district court by Hannah Gutierrez Reed, the armorer who oversaw firearms, ammunition and related training on the set of “Rust" along with two colleagues. Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins died on Oct. 21 from a gunshot wound during a “Rust” rehearsal at a ranch on the outskirts of Santa Fe in northern New Mexico.

The Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office that is leading an investigation into the cause of the death has said it is too soon to determine whether charges will be filed. Investigators have described “some complacency” in how weapons were handled on set.

The lawsuit from Gutierrez Reed places blame on ammunition supplier Seth Kenney and his company PDQ Arm & Prop for introducing live rounds to the set where only blanks and dummies were supposed to be present.

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The lawsuit was filed in New Mexico state district court by Hannah Gutierrez Reed, the armorer who oversaw firearms, ammunition and related training on the set of “Rust" along with two colleagues. Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins died on Oct. 21 from a gunshot wound during a “Rust” rehearsal at a ranch on the outskirts of Santa Fe in northern New Mexico.  .  .  .  The lawsuit from Gutierrez Reed places blame on ammunition supplier Seth Kenney and his company PDQ Arm & Prop for introducing live rounds to the set where only blanks and dummies were supposed to be present.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #446 on: January 13, 2022, 09:48:00 pm »
Alec Baldwin to turn in cell phone amid 'Rust' probe 'this week,' attorney says
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« Reply #447 on: January 14, 2022, 06:51:00 am »
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« Reply #448 on: January 14, 2022, 08:58:25 am »
Alec Baldwin ignored 'Rust' armorer's request to attend 'cross draw training' just days before the shooting, lawsuit says

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•   The armorer for "Rust" is suing an ammo supplier, alleging live ammo was mixed with dummy rounds.

•   She said in her suit that Alec Baldwin did not respond when she tried to schedule firearms training.

•   New Mexico police are investigating the fatal shooting of a cinematographer on set.

The actor Alec Baldwin ignored a request to attend "cross draw training" just days before he fatally shot a cinematographer on the set of "Rust," a new lawsuit filed by the film's armorer alleges.

The armorer, the 24-year-old Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, filed a lawsuit Wednesday against the film's ammo supplier, alleging the company's owner had mixed live and dummy rounds before providing ammunition to the film crew. The October 21 shooting remains under investigation by New Mexico authorities.

Gutierrez-Reed's lawsuit did not name Baldwin as a defendant or allege that he violated any laws. But her lawsuit appeared to cast some blame on the actor, saying he failed to attend training and pointing to his handling of the weapon. The lawsuit says Gutierrez-Reed asked Baldwin to schedule the training on October 15, less than a week before the fatal shooting but she never heard back from the actor.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #449 on: January 14, 2022, 09:04:18 am »
‘Rust’ Armorer Puts Blame on Alec Baldwin for Fatal Shooting: Report

American Entertainment by Suzanne Halliburton January 13, 2022

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The armorer who worked on the movie Rust is saying that star Alec Baldwin is partly responsible for a death on set because he failed to show up for a training session.

Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the armorer for Rust, filed a civil lawsuit in a New Mexico court on Wednesday. The suit alleges that Baldwin did not respond to a request for training. The session was a week before bullets fired from Baldwin’s prop gun killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza.

Attorneys for Gutierrez-Reed filed the lawsuit against the man who furnished guns and ammo for Rust. The details about Baldwin were in the court filings. He is not listed as a defendant.

However, the filing states that Baldwin did not answer Gutierrez-Reed’s request to schedule a cross-draw training session. She asked him to participate in the training, Oct. 15. Hutchins died Oct. 21 during Rust rehearsals at the Bonanza Creek Ranch outside Santa Fe, New Mexico.

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