Put Christian values on hold until after the election – Jerry Falwell Jr.

[Norm Lenhart]

This exchange typifies the shallowness of the anti-trump loser mindset.

There's no depth of understanding or ability to contextualize or rationalize the subject matter. 

Who cares if Russell Moore's 'open borders evangelism' is surreptitiously paid for by liberal ghouls...Trump is worse 

Truth hurts huh?

Bummer.

[jmyrlefuller]

Truth hurts huh?

Bummer.

Another classic Trump MO: ignore the message, attack the messenger.

[Norm Lenhart]

Another classic Trump MO: ignore the message, attack the messenger.

I could see the point in that strategy if the person attacking was competent at it. But Safe Space Inc. better send out a droid at least somewhat informed about dealing with rebuttals because clearly this guy has been set on 'fail' for the duration and it isn't doing so well.

[txradioguy]

Let's see, Clinton bombed Christians, the Neo-Con invasion under Bush accelerated persecution of Christians, Obama/Clinton have allowed Christians to be slaughtered.

The truth is, Trump is the most Christian candidate since Reagan.

Christians were not getting slaughtered in the ME when Bush 43 was running things.

In fact things were pretty stable after we kicked Saddam out.

Everything went to he'll when Obama gave the MoBros the green light to start implementing Sharia Law all over the place.

Only them did we have the mass genocide of Christians in the region.

But I guess you'd know that if you'd either been there or had more than your moronic no-nonsense BS to base your posts on.

Trump will change nothing in that arena. He doesn't like Israel and he agrees with you Obama and Hillary that we shouldn't have gone to Iraq.

The company that you keep...

[Silver Pines]

Let's see, Clinton bombed Christians, the Neo-Con invasion under Bush accelerated persecution of Christians, Obama/Clinton have allowed Christians to be slaughtered.

The truth is, Trump is the most Christian candidate since Reagan.

@TomSea

LMAO!

Oh, he is, he is.  He carries a Bible in his pocket when he grabs the crotches of married women and he reads Scripture to the women who work at his strip clubs.

[geronl]

Let's see, Clinton bombed Christians, the Neo-Con invasion under Bush accelerated persecution of Christians, Obama/Clinton have allowed Christians to be slaughtered.

That of course happened at the beginning of recorded history! There was nothing before it.

The truth is, Trump is the most Christian candidate since Reagan.

Trump is the least Christian candidate in history, he is basically an atheist (which he has claimed to be before)

[mountaineer]

I have an OPC background....currently southern Baptist.  I agree with your post.  I see VERY few supporters of Trump.  Most conservative Christians just can't bring themselves to vote for the guy.

Many of my friends - small town conservatives who are Presbyterians  - support Trump enthusiastically.

[DB]

@TomSea

LMAO!

Oh, he is, he is.  He carries a Bible in his pocket when he grabs the crotches of married women and he reads Scripture to the women who work at his strip clubs.

I'm not aware of Trump actually owning or operating any strip clubs. There was a strip club in a building with his name on it - but he neither owned or operated it (the building).

[geronl]

I'm not aware of Trump actually owning or operating any strip clubs. There was a strip club in a building with his name on it - but he neither owned or operated it (the building).

Trump Taj Mahal had Scores but I think there was an earlier one Trump was involved in

[DB]

Trump Taj Mahal had Scores but I think there was an earlier one Trump was involved in

Well sometime back I made the same claim (that he had strip clubs) and was corrected. When I looked to see what I could find, there were no actual strip clubs operated by Trump. There are buildings that are branded Trump but he neither owned or operated them. If you have evidence of otherwise, please do correct me. It wouldn't surprise me. It's just if I'm going to bash him over the head, I want it to be truthful.

[mountaineer]

It's just if I'm going to bash him over the head, I want it to be truthful.

Bravo. It's what we should try to do, whether we're supporting or bashing. Facts are our friends!

[Longmire]

Truth hurts huh?

But its not "truth" Beavis...its just reflexive anti-trump rhetoric you're spewing, without substance or context.

The global atheist Soros isn't funding Trump's 2016 candidacy for President.

On the contrary he's actively opposing Trump, in no small part by funding  evangelical social justice warriors like Russell Moore who attack him.

That is the substantive, contextual truth about Soros, not some jive about a business development deal he did with Trump a decade ago. 

[txradioguy]

But its not "truth" Beavis...its just reflexive anti-trump rhetoric you're spewing, without substance or context.

The global atheist Soros isn't funding Trump's 2016 candidacy for President.

On the contrary he's actively opposing Trump, in no small part by funding  evangelical social justice warriors like Russell Moore who attack him.

That is the substantive, contextual truth about Soros, not some jive about a business development deal he did with Trump a decade ago. 

You really need to actually do some research and quit relying on Donny's website as the source for your denials.

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/02/trump-pals-around-with-george-soros


And then there is the fact that they both have connections to Hillary via the Clinton Foundation and the CGI.

Try harder next time.

[Silver Pines]

I'm not aware of Trump actually owning or operating any strip clubs. There was a strip club in a building with his name on it - but he neither owned or operated it (the building).

@DB

Information here at these links:

http://townhall.com/columnists/rebeccahagelin/2016/02/28/meet-donald-trump-the-king-of-sleaze-n2126157

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/27/christians-cringe-at-donald-trump-s-sexy-past.html

http://www.christianpost.com/news/donald-trump-strip-clubs-pledges-enforce-anti-obscenity-laws-porn-167516/

[DB]

@DB

Information here at these links:

http://townhall.com/columnists/rebeccahagelin/2016/02/28/meet-donald-trump-the-king-of-sleaze-n2126157

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/27/christians-cringe-at-donald-trump-s-sexy-past.html

http://www.christianpost.com/news/donald-trump-strip-clubs-pledges-enforce-anti-obscenity-laws-porn-167516/

Back at the time this was raised as an issue it was stated that Trump owned something like 10% of the Taj Mahal in 2013 when the strip club opened and he was not in control of who rented the business spaces. Carl Icahn was supposed to have been the guy mostly in control then. And at the time when I was "corrected" I did do some research that confirmed that Trump was not in control even though the building bore his name. Interestingly those news reports of who was in control then were not hard to find and yet now they are essentially gone (I haven't found them yet).

[Smokin Joe]

Falwell's absolutely right, if folks want to help the abortion loving Godless, Islamic sympathizing left, that is their decision and they have their reasons.

Forget Jesus and vote Trump???

No way, no how. Not happening, and just the suggestion that one would have to do the former to do the latter should have people in fear for their souls.

[Silver Pines]

Back at the time this was raised as an issue it was stated that Trump owned something like 10% of the Taj Mahal in 2013 when the strip club opened and he was not in control of who rented the business spaces. Carl Icahn was supposed to have been the guy mostly in control then. And at the time when I was "corrected" I did do some research that confirmed that Trump was not in control even though the building bore his name. Interestingly those news reports of who was in control then were not hard to find and yet now they are essentially gone (I haven't found them yet).

@DB, I take your word for it.  However, a man who's running as a "Christian" as a member of the party of moral values should divest himself of them.  Of course we know that he isn't and it isn't...not anymore.

[DB]

@DB, I take your word for it.  However, a man who's running as a "Christian" as a member of the party of moral values should divest himself of them.  Of course we know that he isn't and it isn't...not anymore.

You will get no argument from me. I'm not defending Trump's morals, I don't know where the bottom is on that front. It comes down to me being truthful and I not wanting to repeat things that are not true if I know otherwise. I don't know what the truth is on this one. I do know at the time there were detailed news service reports online saying what I said - but I couldn't find those articles this time around which is interesting.

Here's one of the few stories I could find confirming what I said: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/29/trump-taj-mahal-hosted-hardcore-porn-convention-in-2013-2014-video/

"Before this Friday, Trump had owned a 10 percent total stake in the hotel that prominently features his name. He had not been involved in the operation of the Trump Taj Mahal since 2009." The strip club thing happened in 2013 I believe.

[Norm Lenhart]

But its not "truth" Beavis...its just reflexive anti-trump rhetoric you're spewing, without substance or context.

The global atheist Soros isn't funding Trump's 2016 candidacy for President.

On the contrary he's actively opposing Trump, in no small part by funding  evangelical social justice warriors like Russell Moore who attack him.

That is the substantive, contextual truth about Soros, not some jive about a business development deal he did with Trump a decade ago. 

It's the truth.

[roamer_1]

Here's one of the few stories I could find confirming what I said: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/29/trump-taj-mahal-hosted-hardcore-porn-convention-in-2013-2014-video/

"Before this Friday, Trump had owned a 10 percent total stake in the hotel that prominently features his name. He had not been involved in the operation of the Trump Taj Mahal since 2009." The strip club thing happened in 2013 I believe.

It is intrinsic, within the scope of his name being used for such a purpose, and in that he is receiving profit from the use of his name being used for such a purpose, that he approves of his name being used in that way. He is, in effect, if not reality, a partner in what is being performed under the aegis of his brand.

All that is given is the barest of fig leaf (ooh, look! A pun!) toward plausible deniability. While I have no direct knowledge of his contracts, I know that branding is taken very seriously (as it is nothing more than flatulent air that founds a brand), and I am sure as can be that the contracts allow an exit over anything at all that might damage the brand name. His acquiescence, silent or otherwise, is what damns him here.

[DB]

It is intrinsic, within the scope of his name being used for such a purpose, and in that he is receiving profit from the use of his name being used for such a purpose, that he approves of his name being used in that way. He is, in effect, if not reality, a partner in what is being performed under the aegis of his brand.

All that is given is the barest of fig leaf (ooh, look! A pun!) toward plausible deniability. While I have no direct knowledge of his contracts, I know that branding is taken very seriously (as it is nothing more than flatulent air that founds a brand), and I am sure as can be that the contracts allow an exit over anything at all that might damage the brand name. His acquiescence, silent or otherwise, is what damns him here.

That's all well and good, but I still don't think it's accurate to say he opened and ran a strip joint - if the story I linked is accurate. It is fair to say there was a strip joint operating in building with his name on it.

[Frank Cannon]

Forget Jesus and vote Trump???

Under the same reasoning can I forget Jesus and shoot the guy down the road with the junk cars on his front yard? It's for the greater good afterall.

[Smokin Joe]

Under the same reasoning can I forget Jesus and shoot the guy down the road with the junk cars on his front yard? It's for the greater good afterall.

Actually, if you want the parts that bad, maybe he'll sell them to you.

[mountaineer]

Franklin Graham

12 hrs ·
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The media is reporting that Donald J. Trump is lagging behind in some polls and many aren’t giving him a chance to win the election. And that Hillary Clinton took the day off to prepare for Wednesday night’s debate. I have not endorsed any candidate, and I certainly don’t know who will win but here’s my prayer—that whoever is put into the office of President of the United States of America will know that it was God who put them in that position and that they will have a fear and a reverence for the Lord. Please join me in continuing to pray because this election is the most critical in our lifetime. The next president will be in a position to possibly influence the Supreme Court—for good or for bad—more than any other president in history.

[don-o]

I actually listened to the linked piece. I did not hear Falwell say what the headline states.  Did I miss it?