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SOURCE: AMERICAN THINKER
URL: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/fox_negotiating_bill_orellys_exit_report_.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/fox_negotiating_bill_orellys_exit_report_.html)
Rick Moran
Fox Corporation and talk show host Bill O'Reilly are in discussions to end his employment by Fox News.
Neither the vacationing O'Reilly or representatives from Fox had any comment on the story. But it's clear that sexual harassment accusations against O'Reilly, which has resulted in advertisers fleeing his show, are damaging the Fox brand to the point where the host's exit may have become inevitable.
CNN:
A well-placed source said Tuesday afternoon that representatives for Fox and O'Reilly have begun talking about an exit. But this prompted a denial from sources in O'Reilly's camp.
Even one person close to O'Reilly, however, said he will probably not be back on "The O'Reilly Factor."
The original well-placed source said an announcement about O'Reilly's fate was likely by the end of the week.
The fact that none of these sources were willing to go on the record speaks to the delicate maneuvering underway.
The network's parent company, 21st Century Fox (FOX), will hold a board meeting on Thursday, a spokeswoman told CNNMoney. One of the sources said O'Reilly will be a primary topic.
The Murdochs, the men who control 21st Century Fox, are pointedly not commenting on any of this.
But conversations inside Fox have already turned to possible O'Reilly successors.
New York magazine's Gabriel Sherman, the author of a biography about ex-Fox News boss Roger Ailes, reported Tuesday that "the Murdochs are leaning toward announcing that O'Reilly will not return to the air."
Sherman cited "three sources with knowledge of the discussions" and said "no final decision has been made."
As CNNMoney has previously reported, there had been a split between Rupert Murdoch, the company's patriarch, and his sons James and Lachlan, with James advocating for O'Reilly's ouster. Lachlan was previously said to be in the middle. Sherman said Tuesday that Lachlan has "leaned more in his brother James's direction" in recent days.
All of this is a reaction to a New York Times story about the settlement payments that O'Reilly, Fox and 21st Century Fox paid to women who accused O'Reilly of sexual harassment and verbal abuse.
Last week 21st Century Fox confirmed that an outside law firm was investigating allegations against O'Reilly.
The same firm -- Paul, Weiss -- played an instrumental role in the eventual resignation of Ailes last summer.
O'Reilly's allies feel that he has been unfairly demonized by his accusers and a biased news media.
His opponents, including some influential voices inside 21st Century Fox, feel that O'Reilly has behaved badly over the years, that his behavior has been exposed, and that it's inappropriate for Fox News to continue his show.
So is O'Reilly a victim? Or a cad? I suppose it depends on the context in which these accusations of sexual harassment occured. Off the air, O'Reilly has not been known as a very nice person - screaming at people who work for him and at times, acting like a vindictive SOB. But that doesn't make him a serial sexual harasser. In any "he said, she said" situation, there are nuances to an encounter that might tell a different story than the charges against O'Reilly might suggest. What seems pretty clear, however, is that whatever O'Reilly's intent, the result was that at least some of those women truly felt he was harassing them.
But the perception of O'Reilly - if not the reality - has changed and Murdoch may feel that his presence on air tarnishes the Fox brand. "The Factor" is the highest rated show in the history of cable news, so dropping him from the prime time lineup carries risks beyond the flight of advertisers. "The Factor" has led off the hugely successful Fox prime time lineup for nearly 20 years and it's an open question whether there is a way to replace the host without blowing up the network.
Liberals, of course, are escatic. Bringing down Fox News would be a dream come true. But the irony is that they refuse to correctly perceive why Fox News draws twice as many viewers as liberal networks like CNN and MSNBC. They think that Fox "fools" the viewer with fake news and false punditry. What they are really doing is projecting. Those very reasons are why viewers rejected the other networks and flock to Fox to get their news.
O'Reilly's departure would be a blow to the network with unknown consequences down the road. But "The Factor" draws nearly 3 million viewers a night. Does anyone really believe that Anderson Cooper of CNN or Rachel Maddoiw of MSNBC can attract an audience that size?
Not likely.
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Glenn Beck is talking about this this morning. Says whether the claims are true or not, Murdoch's children are now calling the shots and they are determined to take O'Reilly out and will be followed eventually by Hannity and Carlson. Murdoch's offspring are not conservative and are embarrassed by FOX News.
Time will tell.
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The sad fact of the matter is that if Blowhard Bill wasn't costing them ad revenue...there wouldn't be any talk of giving him the boot.
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So is O'Reilly a victim? Or a cad? I suppose it depends on the context in which these accusations of sexual harassment occured.
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Considering a $13 million settlement, they must have been bad and probably the tip of the iceberg
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Glenn Beck is talking about this this morning. Says whether the claims are true or not, Murdoch's children are now calling the shots and they are determined to take O'Reilly out and will be followed eventually by Hannity and Carlson. Murdoch's offspring are not conservative and are embarrassed by FOX News.
Time will tell.
For the time being, I suspect Carlson will be treated as the new "O'Reilly".
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Glenn Beck is talking about this this morning. Says whether the claims are true or not, Murdoch's children are now calling the shots and they are determined to take O'Reilly out and will be followed eventually by Hannity and Carlson. Murdoch's offspring are not conservative and are embarrassed by FOX News.
Time will tell.
Its funny how most libs believe O'Reilly sets the gold standard for conservatism.
I can't believe Murdoch's kids, no matter how liberal they are, don't understand that converting the network from a conservative leaning one to a CNN knockoff wouldn't spell the beginning of the end of FNC's long run on top.
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The sad fact of the matter is that if Blowhard Bill wasn't costing them ad revenue...there wouldn't be any talk of giving him the boot.
Yes it is sad, but true.
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Glenn Beck is talking about this this morning. Says whether the claims are true or not, Murdoch's children are now calling the shots and they are determined to take O'Reilly out and will be followed eventually by Hannity and Carlson. Murdoch's offspring are not conservative and are embarrassed by FOX News.
Time will tell.
Right here is Media Matters tried and true method for getting opposition off the airwaves. They openly admit that this whole BOR issue is a fabricated event....
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-a-veteran-of-fox-news-boycotts-does-it
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Right here is Media Matters tried and true method for getting opposition off the airwaves. They openly admit that this whole BOR issue is a fabricated event....
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-a-veteran-of-fox-news-boycotts-does-it
You are 100% right Frank! I just wish Bill O wasn't such an A$$!
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Right here is Media Matters tried and true method for getting opposition off the airwaves. They openly admit that this whole BOR issue is a fabricated event....
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-a-veteran-of-fox-news-boycotts-does-it
Thanks, Frank. And, in the New Yorker!
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Right here is Media Matters tried and true method for getting opposition off the airwaves. They openly admit that this whole BOR issue is a fabricated event....
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-a-veteran-of-fox-news-boycotts-does-it
So he didn't pay $13 million out to 5 different women?
Those female Fox News reporters that left because of him are lying?
Will you still say it's fabricated when it's announced he's leaving Fox News?
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/sources-fox-news-has-decided-bill-oreilly-has-to-go.html
Sources: Fox News Has Decided Bill O’Reilly Has to Go
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/04/19/bill-o-reilly-reportedly-let-go.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl
Bill O’Reilly Reportedly Let Go by Fox News
Drudge headline
FOXNEWS ROCKED: O'REILLY OUT AFTER DECADES ON TOP
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So he didn't pay $13 million out to 5 different women?
Those female Fox News reporters that left because of him are lying?
Will you still say it's fabricated when it's announced he's leaving Fox News?
I don't know what business you are in, but I have been sued a couple times by tenants for total bullshit. The insurance companies first and last instinct is to pay out a settlement. I look at settlements as totally meaningless at proving wrongdoing. All they show are expedience.
BTW, this is all moot anyway. Ted Baxter is out. Media Matters has won another one based on total bullshit. I know we will all be excited when they replace him with a total Marxists like Oprah.
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Will you still say it's fabricated when it's announced he's leaving Fox News?
Looks like he didn't leave. Looks like Ruperts ultra Lib sons fired him. Doesn't change the fact that MM targeted him and got this done.
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No fan of BOR but what the hell is this world coming to?
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No fan of BOR but what the hell is this world coming to?
Yet another American institution falls. The world's premier cable news channel is now gone. O'Reilly, for better or worse, is a bastion of the Fox News empire. His departure will leave a gaping crater in the perception of what Fox News is all about, well beyond just the 8 o'clock slot. And with the recent exodus of talent from Fox, it is undetermined who may replace him.
There is no question that Fox News is in disarray. There has been unceasing termoil for about a year now. And the silliest part of all of this, is that the world's most popular and powerful news organization could be brought to their knees by something as stupid as sex. All of their recent troubles all involve sex in one way or another. The ultimate stupidity. Jeez dude! Just hire a professional and get it out of your system. It is a lot better than crashing an empire over a piece of tail. That's insanity.
Let this be a lesson to us all. Women are dangerous. Never talk to a woman at work unless you are talking strictly about work or the weather. And having a witness around when dealing with women is a good thing. Some people thought that I was paranoid. It turns out that I had the right idea all along.
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I don't know what business you are in, but I have been sued a couple times by tenants for total bullshit. The insurance companies first and last instinct is to pay out a settlement. I look at settlements as totally meaningless at proving wrongdoing. All they show are expedience.
BTW, this is all moot anyway. Ted Baxter is out. Media Matters has won another one based on total bullshit. I know we will all be excited when they replace him with a total Marxists like Oprah.
And, that's exactly the point. The left is taking out the last non-leftist major news outlet. I despise BOR, but this is bad stuff. Wait until the next shoe drops.
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Yet another American institution falls. The world's premier cable news channel is now gone. O'Reilly, for better or worse, is a bastion of the Fox News empire. His departure will leave a gaping crater in the perception of what Fox News is all about, well beyond just the 8 o'clock slot. And with the recent exodus of talent from Fox, it is undetermined who may replace him.
There is no question that Fox News is in disarray. There has been unceasing termoil for about a year now. And the silliest part of all of this, is that the world's most popular and powerful news organization could be brought to their knees by something as stupid as sex. All of their recent troubles all involve sex in one way or another. The ultimate stupidity. Jeez dude! Just hire a professional and get it out of your system. It is a lot better than crashing an empire over a piece of tail. That's insanity.
Let this be a lesson to us all. Women are dangerous. Never talk to a woman at work unless you are talking strictly about work or the weather. And having a witness around when dealing with women is a good thing. Some people thought that I was paranoid. It turns out that I had the right idea all along.
Well, allrighty then.
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Only thing that bugged me about BOR was his prostrating himself for Obama in an attempt to maintain access to him. For ratings.
Not going to get upset regarding his skirt chasing, etc..
"If you're not thinking about p###y, you're just not concentrating." - golfing great Sam Snead
http://www.google.com/#q=sam+snead+if+you+are+not+thinking (http://www.google.com/#q=sam+snead+if+you+are+not+thinking)
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Yet another American institution falls. The world's premier cable news channel is now gone.
It was destined to fall once it became nothing more than a cultic cheerleader for Trump
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It was destined to fall once it became nothing more than a cultic cheerleader for Trump
That sort of misses the point @geronl.
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It was destined to fall once it became nothing more than a cultic cheerleader for Trump
Troll alert!
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Considering a $13 million settlement, they must have been bad and probably the tip of the iceberg
The amount of the settlement is solely determined by how deep his pockets are. If he wasn't famous they wouldnt have paid anything.
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Strangely, there are still people out there who think BOR is a conservative.
Sanctimonious, arrogant SOB had it coming.
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It was destined to fall once it became nothing more than a cultic cheerleader for Trump
@geronl
Odd since this all started well before they made that move.
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I don't know what business you are in, but I have been sued a couple times by tenants for total bullshit. The insurance companies first and last instinct is to pay out a settlement. I look at settlements as totally meaningless at proving wrongdoing. All they show are expedience.
BTW, this is all moot anyway. Ted Baxter is out. Media Matters has won another one based on total bullshit. I know we will all be excited when they replace him with a total Marxists like Oprah.
Frank this isn't his first go around with sexual harassment while at Fox News. It's his second or third. This isn't some trumped up Media Matters witch hunt.
He's a serial harasser and he's finally getting what should have happened years ago. As I said earlier...if they weren't bleeding ad revenue because of his arrogant @ss this wouldn't even be an issue.
But now his abusive behavior is beginning to affect the bottom line.
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Maybe now he will have time to see a psychiatrist, as his hero suggested.
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Frank this isn't his first go around with sexual harassment while at Fox News. It's his second or third. This isn't some trumped up Media Matters witch hunt.
He's a serial harasser and he's finally getting what should have happened years ago. As I said earlier...if they weren't bleeding ad revenue because of his arrogant @ss this wouldn't even be an issue.
But now his abusive behavior is beginning to affect the bottom line.
Right, because once you payout the allegations keep coming. We had real charges against Ailes. Where are the real charges against BOR? We had allegations all over the place last year. None of them involved BOR. interesting how all of a sudden Media Matters targets him and he is a serial rapist all of a sudden.
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Right, because once you payout the allegations keep coming. We had real charges against Ailes. Where are the real charges against BOR? We had allegations all over the place last year. None of them involved BOR. interesting how all of a sudden Media Matters targets him and he is a serial rapist all of a sudden.
Ok Frank whatever. Have fun in your denial. **nononono*
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Ok Frank whatever. Have fun in your denial. **nononono*
See. Your hatred of Ted Baxter leave you with nothing tangible of this guy doing jack shit to women. I don't even watch this assclown but see this for what it is. Shutting down a center right news agency through intimidation and thug tactics.
If anyone is in denial it is people like you who are too stupid to read an article where the enemy openly brags that they are taking this idiot out with lies.
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Right, because once you payout the allegations keep coming. We had real charges against Ailes. Where are the real charges against BOR? We had allegations all over the place last year. None of them involved BOR. interesting how all of a sudden Media Matters targets him and he is a serial rapist all of a sudden.
I have a friend who once worked for a very large chain of drug stores (Walgreens). He relates a story about a woman he watched take a bottle of water off the shelf and stomp it on the floor then lay down in the puddle and start screaming at the top of her lungs about her back. The company paid the claim without argument and told my friend that his eyewitness testimony wasn't worth spit in court because he was an employee. Cheaper just to pay them off.
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Let this be a lesson to us all. Women are dangerous. Never talk to a woman at work unless you are talking strictly about work or the weather. And having a witness around when dealing with women is a good thing. Some people thought that I was paranoid. It turns out that I had the right idea all along.
Well, allrighty then.
@Sanguine, before you scoff at what @240B says, consider my experience. I work in a large corporation, but I'm not a world-famous "face of the company," just a working stiff. We've had multiple training sessions about Sexual Harassment over the past 25 years or so (it started when Anita Hill was believed), and it's gotten progressively more rigid each time.
Common factor in all the training: In a "he-said/she-said" situation, the scale almost always tips to the female, few exceptions have ever occurred. Lately, the gay factor has been added, and now in a he-said/he-said scenario, the straight person always loses. The assumption in all this is straight males are oppressors, and even if the result is unjust they deserved to be taken down a notch anyway. "Innocent until proven guilty" does not apply, and before a guy can utter one word in his defense he has to admit to the infraction. His only defense is "It was a misunderstanding," never "It didn't happen." Of course it did.
As a result, it's not an exaggeration to say "women are dangerous." They generally are to one's career (especially for a man who doesn't look like Val Kilmer), and a man is wise to always have at least one other person present whenever working together. It can sometimes take some creativity to make that happen.
A thing that bothers me about this story is this business of Fox News having to pay off the accusers. I was taught in no uncertain terms that is not allowed, and any judgements that come down land squarely on the back of the accused.
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/sources-fox-news-has-decided-bill-oreilly-has-to-go.html
Sources: Fox News Has Decided Bill O’Reilly Has to Go
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/04/19/bill-o-reilly-reportedly-let-go.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl
Bill O’Reilly Reportedly Let Go by Fox News
Drudge headline
FOXNEWS ROCKED: O'REILLY OUT AFTER DECADES ON TOP
Good riddance. Another founding member of the Fox sexual harassment club is out.
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Yet another American institution falls. The world's premier cable news channel is now gone. O'Reilly, for better or worse, is a bastion of the Fox News empire. His departure will leave a gaping crater in the perception of what Fox News is all about, well beyond just the 8 o'clock slot. And with the recent exodus of talent from Fox, it is undetermined who may replace him.
There is no question that Fox News is in disarray. There has been unceasing termoil for about a year now. And the silliest part of all of this, is that the world's most popular and powerful news organization could be brought to their knees by something as stupid as sex. All of their recent troubles all involve sex in one way or another. The ultimate stupidity. Jeez dude! Just hire a professional and get it out of your system. It is a lot better than crashing an empire over a piece of tail. That's insanity.
Let this be a lesson to us all. Women are dangerous. Never talk to a woman at work unless you are talking strictly about work or the weather. And having a witness around when dealing with women is a good thing. Some people thought that I was paranoid. It turns out that I had the right idea all along.
@240B
I made it clear I was dangerous to the man who backed me into a corner in an empty office and tried to box me in with his body.
A history of sexual harassment isn't something normal and healthy men in general need to "get out of their system." It's an attempt to use and manipulate by using power.
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@240B
I made it clear I was dangerous to the man who backed me into a corner in an empty office and tried to box me in with his body.
A history of sexual harassment isn't something normal and healthy men in general need to "get out of their system." It's an attempt to use and manipulate by using power.
@CatherineofAragon
I agree 100%. My post was about using the legal atmosphere to play an advantage on someone, not what Harassment is all about.
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@CatherineofAragon
I agree 100%. My post was about using the legal atmosphere to play an advantage on someone, not what Harassment is all about.
@Cyber Liberty
I just saw your post, and I agree with it, CL. I'm one of the weird people who thinks Mike Pence's policy of not being alone with women---especially in his position---is a smart one. Lots of people would love to drum up a fake sexual harassment claim against him, but they'll never have the opportunity. And it can be that way in the workplace, especially in large companies.
Fox has a history of paying off women who claim harassment by men with a history of those claims.
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@Sanguine, before you scoff at what @240B says, consider my experience. I work in a large corporation, but I'm not a world-famous "face of the company," just a working stiff. We've had multiple training sessions about Sexual Harassment over the past 25 years or so (it started when Anita Hill was believed), and it's gotten progressively more rigid each time.
Common factor in all the training: In a "he-said/she-said" situation, the scale almost always tips to the female, few exceptions have ever occurred. Lately, the gay factor has been added, and now in a he-said/he-said scenario, the straight person always loses. The assumption in all this is straight males are oppressors, and even if the result is unjust they deserved to be taken down a notch anyway. "Innocent until proven guilty" does not apply, and before a guy can utter one word in his defense he has to admit to the infraction. His only defense is "It was a misunderstanding," never "It didn't happen." Of course it did.
As a result, it's not an exaggeration to say "women are dangerous." They generally are to one's career (especially for a man who doesn't look like Val Kilmer), and a man is wise to always have at least one other person present whenever working together. It can sometimes take some creativity to make that happen.
A thing that bothers me about this story is this business of Fox News having to pay off the accusers. I was taught in no uncertain terms that is not allowed, and any judgements that come down land squarely on the back of the accused.
Oh, I know all about training sessions and I also know a bit about being on the receiving end of sexual harassment. And, I work in an excruciatingly politically correct profession. No, "women are" not "dangerous". Letting your guard down or being stupid is. I'm careful to have my blinds open whenever anyone is in my office, and if I get a feeling that things may be misunderstood or manipulated, I have a third person in my office during those meetings. I am careful to not be in a position where the situation could be manipulated into something other than what it was. And, I'm not even important and I don't have hordes out to knock me off of my pedestal.
And, no, in a ""he-said/she-said" situation, the scale almost always tips to the female" is simply not true. If the boss is female, the opposite will be true. So, I'm careful.
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Tucker Carlson gets the 8 p.m. spot, per Dana Loesch just now. That's a huge opportunity for him.
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@Cyber Liberty
I just saw your post, and I agree with it, CL. I'm one of the weird people who thinks Mike Pence's policy of not being alone with women---especially in his position---is a smart one. Lots of people would love to drum up a fake sexual harassment claim against him, but they'll never have the opportunity. And it can be that way in the workplace, especially in large companies.
Fox has a history of paying off women who claim harassment by men with a history of those claims.
As an aside, I should mention that personally, I think O'Reilly is as guilty as a dog eating feces, and is getting what he deserves. He's set to retire a wealthy man, even if he has to pay out millions from his own bank account.
He fails the "creep factor" test.
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Tucker Carlson gets the 8 p.m. spot, per Dana Loesch just now. That's a huge opportunity for him.
I'm not surprised. May he do a better job of this than the time he was doing the bow-tie shtick, when he always had it undone around his neck by the end of the show, as if to prove he doesn't do clip- or strap-ons.
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Oh, I know all about training sessions and I also know a bit about being on the receiving end of sexual harassment. And, I work in an excruciatingly politically correct profession. No, "women are" not "dangerous". Letting your guard down or being stupid is. I'm careful to have my blinds open whenever anyone is in my office, and if I get a feeling that things may be misunderstood or manipulated, I have a third person in my office during those meetings. I am careful to not be in a position where the situation could be manipulated into something other than what it was. And, I'm not even important and I don't have hordes out to knock me off of my pedestal.
And, no, in a ""he-said/she-said" situation, the scale almost always tips to the female" is simply not true. If the boss is female, the opposite will be true. So, I'm careful.
I think your approach is an excellent balance of being careful and being friendly. Finding that balance can be difficult. As for the preponderance of relative guilt, I have to admit I only have the anecdotal experiences of one guy in one company, so I defer. And I totally agree it has a lot to do with the boss.
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I'm not surprised. May he do a better job of this than the time he was doing the bow-tie shtick, when he always had it undone around his neck by the end of the show, as if to prove he doesn't do clip- or strap-ons.
Wonder what will happen to Jesse Watters?
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Wonder what will happen to Jesse Watters?
He always lands on his feet. There's always room for a "Paul Fistinyourface" character in Network News. Obnoxious sells.
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One of the many puzzles in this world was the big attraction of the Bill O'Reilly show. I know for a fact he had high ratings for many years. Maybe they could have put a monkey in that time slot and gotten high ratings, but I doubt it. At least not for the long term.
Whatever the secret sauce was I never got it.
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Foxnews tried to become a king maker/destroyer during the last election. That turned off a lot of people.
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I think your approach is an excellent balance of being careful and being friendly. Finding that balance can be difficult. As for the preponderance of relative guilt, I have to admit I only have the anecdotal experiences of one guy in one company, so I defer. And I totally agree it has a lot to do with the boss.
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You wouldn't believe some of the stuff that's been tossed at me over the years. Most interesting was a gal who did her best to "almost" spill out of her top whenever I had to work on her test equipment. Somehow I managed to outlive them all, now I have no worries because I'm all alone in my lab. :shrug:
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As an aside, I should mention that personally, I think O'Reilly is as guilty as a dog eating feces, and is getting what he deserves. He's set to retire a wealthy man, even if he has to pay out millions from his own bank account.
He fails the "creep factor" test.
@Cyber Liberty
Yep, if he has to personally pay anything, he won't miss it. He'll retire, travel, and buy himself some women who can be bought.
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One of the many puzzles in this world was the big attraction of the Bill O'Reilly show. I know for a fact he had high ratings for many years. Maybe they could have put a monkey in that time slot and gotten high ratings, but I doubt it. At least not for the long term.
Whatever the secret sauce was I never got it.
@Hondo69
Same here. It never really made any sense to me that his ratings were so high, unless he was just a habit or something.
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@Cyber Liberty
Yep, if he has to personally pay anything, he won't miss it. He'll retire, travel, and buy himself some women who can be bought.
Mrs. Liberty tells me he's been working hard at getting his marriage with two children annulled. From what I know of the RCC, that's gonna cost him, maybe more than the various settlements.
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now I have no worries because I'm all alone in my lab. :shrug:
And he wouldn't hurt a fly.....
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/8/8a/NormanBates.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131008043505&path-prefix=answers)
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One of the many puzzles in this world was the big attraction of the Bill O'Reilly show. I know for a fact he had high ratings for many years. Maybe they could have put a monkey in that time slot and gotten high ratings, but I doubt it. At least not for the long term.
Whatever the secret sauce was I never got it.
He was unique in the beginning because of his bombastic style and his saying things that no other host had ever said.
But he got old fast for me, and I don't understand the appeal all these years.
As for Fox News, I agree with @DB upthread that they destroyed their credibility in the last election.
No "fair and balanced" at all........
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He was unique in the beginning because of his bombastic style and his saying things that no other host had ever said.
But he got old fast for me, and I don't understand the appeal all these years.
As for Fox News, I agree with @DB upthread that they destroyed their credibility in the last election.
No "fair and balanced" at all........
I think they bought into what Rush Limbaugh used to always say: "No, I don't have a balanced show with conservative and liberal thought. I PROVIDE balance by existing alongside all the liberal outlets."
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I have never liked BOR since I heard him on air critiquing the Paris Hilton sex tape. All I could think about was the contrast between him and someone like Sean Hannity who wouldn't be caught dead watching something like that.
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I'm not surprised. May he do a better job of this than the time he was doing the bow-tie shtick, when he always had it undone around his neck by the end of the show, as if to prove he doesn't do clip- or strap-ons.
Lol
I think Carlson is pretty sharp and funny. One of the last times I watched Fox News was when he sat in for Hannity, and he was such a stark contrast with Sean's dimwitted, repetitive presence. I said to my husband it was a pity he couldn't have Hannity's timeslot.
Now he's done even better. :laugh:
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I think they bought into what Rush Limbaugh used to always say: "No, I don't have a balanced show with conservative and liberal thought. I PROVIDE balance by existing alongside all the liberal outlets."
IOW, neither fair nor balanced.
They used to at least try to give perspective while being more conservative than liberal. They were the closest thing to balance out there.
No more.
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I have never liked BOR since I heard him on air critiquing the Paris Hilton sex tape. All I could think about was the contrast between him and someone like Sean Hannity who wouldn't be caught dead watching something like that.
I've gotten to where I don't like either one of them. O'Really has gotten predictable, and Hannity is an ungifted interviewer who, after all these years, hasn't grasped the concept of "follow-up question." Too many times he's left me hollering "Why didn't you ask this in response to the total crap answer you just got?" He always moves on, satisfied with himself.
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IOW, neither fair nor balanced.
They used to at least try to give perspective while being more conservative than liberal. They were the closest thing to balance out there.
No more.
That's about the size of it. All it's done is increase the size of the chasm.
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I've gotten to where I don't like either one of them. O'Really has gotten predictable, and Hannity is an ungifted interviewer who, after all these years, hasn't grasped the concept of "follow-up question." Too many times he's left me hollering "Why didn't you ask this in response to the total crap answer you just got?" He always moves on, satisfied with himself.
That's because everything he says is simple, memorized and idiotic.
He couldn't think for himself if he tried. That's why he never responds to what his supposed interviewees say.
He's too busy trying to remember his repetitive, stupid comments.
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That's because everything he says is simple, memorized and idiotic.
He couldn't think for himself if he tried. That's why he never responds to what his supposed interviewees say.
He's too busy trying to remember his repetitive, stupid comments.
He reminds me of some people I know. You can tell when you're talking to them they aren't listening to what you're saying, they're busy formulating what they're going to say.
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He reminds me of some people I know. You can tell when you're talking to them they aren't listening to what you're saying, they're busy formulating what they're going to say.
Oh, like talking politics to a leftist?
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Oh, like talking politics to a leftist?
That's one example, yes. Doesn't apply to all leftists, I spoken with some who have been a real challenge.
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Hannity is an ungifted interviewer who, after all these years, hasn't grasped the concept of "follow-up question." Too many times he's left me hollering "Why didn't you ask this in response to the total crap answer you just got?" He always moves on, satisfied with himself.
I am in complete agreement with you. I scream at my TV too (and radio) when I hear Hannity. Political lightweight, yes. But scumbag, no.
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I am in complete agreement with you. I scream at my TV too (and radio) when I hear Hannity. Political lightweight, yes. But scumbag, no.
Correct. He's not heavyweight enough to be considered a dirtbag.
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Maybe Inside Addition will take him back...
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Maybe Inside Addition will take him back...
It'd be a step up for both of them... :whistle:
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Fox News drops Bill O'Reilly in wake of harassment allegations
Fox News, Apr 19, Howard Kurtz
Fox News is cutting ties with Bill O’Reilly, the biggest star in its 20-year history, after mounting allegations of sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior prompted the network to end his program.
“After a thorough and careful review of the allegations,” parent company 21st Century Fox said in a statement, “the company and Bill O’Reilly have agreed that Bill O’Reilly will not be returning to the Fox News Channel.”
Today’s decision seemed unimaginable a few short weeks ago, given O’Reilly’s long reign as the top-rated host in cable news.
More: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/19/fox-news-drops-bill-oreilly-in-wake-harassment-allegations.html
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@Cyber Liberty
Looks like Bolling is getting a show at 5pm (the old 5 at 5 slot) and then Tucker Carlson Tonight will be moving up from 9 pm, which will now be the home of The Five, co-hosted by Kimberly Guilfoyle, Dana Perino, Bob Beckel, Greg Gutfeld, Jesse Watters, and Juan Williams.
Eric Bolling will be getting the 5 pm slot to himself and Watters will replace him on The Five cast.
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@240B
I made it clear I was dangerous to the man who backed me into a corner in an empty office and tried to box me in with his body.
A history of sexual harassment isn't something normal and healthy men in general need to "get out of their system." It's an attempt to use and manipulate by using power.
I agree that sexual harassment must be more of a power issue than a sex issue. Although this may sound trite, I do not understand this kind of behavior even though it is very common. From Generals in the military, to politicians, to CEOs, it seems that the people most prone to this kind of behavior are usually the very people with the most to lose.
I guess my approach, to simply get rid of the urge, does not apply to people who are in it for power and domination. I am simple guy who thinks in simplistic terms. If I want sex, I get sex, end of story. I'm not attracted to domination which is why I do not understand why these harassers do what they do. The worst situation I personally have ever had to deal with in this regard was dealing with a married woman who had a crush on me. My God, that was a minefield.
It is best to be overly cautious when dealing with women. Truth, reality, doesn't mean anything. Just the accusation alone is enough to ruin a career and a marriage regardless of the details. I avoid women at work. It may not be for everyone, but that is how I roll.
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Now that, is a body slam. Not giving him the opportunity to sign off is more than just firing him. That is vengeful and vindictive. Gotta be some bad blood between O'Reilly and Fox.
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I agree that sexual harassment must be more of a power issue than a sex issue. Although this may sound trite, I do not understand this kind of behavior even though it is very common. From Generals in the military, to politicians, to CEOs, it seems that the people most prone to this kind of behavior are usually the very people with the most to lose.
I guess my approach, to simply get rid of the urge, does not apply to people who are in it for power and domination. I am simple guy who thinks in simplistic terms. If I want sex, I get sex, end of story. I'm not attracted to domination which is why I do not understand why these harassers do what they do. The worst situation I personally have ever had to deal with in this regard was dealing with a married woman who had a crush on me. My God, that was a minefield.
It is best to be overly cautious when dealing with women. Truth, reality, doesn't mean anything. Just the accusation alone is enough to ruin a career and a marriage regardless of the details. I avoid women at work. It may not be for everyone, but that is how I roll.
To much dignity to play for low stakes? I dunno.
I agree about the just stay isolated route, if you're a not especially sensitive person (like me). I fail to notice when gals come on to me, so I could easily walk into a trap without noticing.
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@Cyber Liberty
Looks like Bolling is getting a show at 5pm (the old 5 at 5 slot) and then Tucker Carlson Tonight will be moving up from 9 pm, which will now be the home of The Five, co-hosted by Kimberly Guilfoyle, Dana Perino, Bob Beckel, Greg Gutfeld, Jesse Watters, and Juan Williams.
Eric Bolling will be getting the 5 pm slot to himself and Watters will replace him on The Five cast.
Sounds OK. I like Bolling. I'll miss Brett Baier, always liked him for some reason.
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I agree that sexual harassment must be more of a power issue than a sex issue. Although this may sound trite, I do not understand this kind of behavior even though it is very common. From Generals in the military, to politicians, to CEOs, it seems that the people most prone to this kind of behavior are usually the very people with the most to lose.
I guess my approach, to simply get rid of the urge, does not apply to people who are in it for power and domination. I am simple guy who thinks in simplistic terms. If I want sex, I get sex, end of story. I'm not attracted to domination which is why I do not understand why these harassers do what they do. The worst situation I personally have ever had to deal with in this regard was dealing with a married woman who had a crush on me. My God, that was a minefield.
It is best to be overly cautious when dealing with women. Truth, reality, doesn't mean anything. Just the accusation alone is enough to ruin a career and a marriage regardless of the details. I avoid women at work. It may not be for everyone, but that is how I roll.
It's because you're so darned irresistible!
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Sounds OK. I like Bolling. I'll miss Brett Baier, always liked him for some reason.
Brett is still on at 6!
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It's because you're so darned irresistible!
Meanwhile, I look like a mud fence, so I'm always in danger. Carlos Danger. :laugh:
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It's because you're so darned irresistible!
Nah. I'm not irresistible. I'm an impersonal bastard, who has a functional over emotional mindset. I'm a software architect and it has warped my brain. Everything with me is about getting to the point and achieving the goal. That's why I don't really get the point of messing around at work. It is simply not an efficient and it is not a logical way to achieve sexual gratification. It will only lead to problems in the long run. I guess some people simply cannot control themselves, regardless of the obvious danger and the long term costs. I call this kind of person a fool. And fools always wind up paying the price for their foolishness eventually, as we can clearly see with Billy O.
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Nah. I'm not irresistible. I'm an impersonal bastard, who has a functional over emotional mindset. I'm a software architect and it has warped my brain. Everything with me is about getting to the point and achieving the goal. That's why I don't really get the point of messing around at work. It is simply not an efficient and it is not a logical way to achieve sexual gratification. It will only lead to problems in the long run. I guess some people simply cannot control themselves, regardless of the obvious danger and the long term costs. I call this kind of person a fool. And fools always wind up paying the price for their foolishness eventually, as we can clearly see with Billy O.
We call them fools, and they call us geeks. In the end, we retire earlier with better nest eggs. :beer:
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IOW, neither fair nor balanced.
They used to at least try to give perspective while being more conservative than liberal. They were the closest thing to balance out there.
No more.
@musiclady
And downright rude to guests! THATS the thing I couldn't take most of all!
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Sounds OK. I like Bolling. I'll miss Brett Baier, always liked him for some reason.
@Cyber Liberty
Is Brett leaving? Where is that in the announcement? Did I miss it?
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@Cyber Liberty
Is Brett leaving? Where is that in the announcement? Did I miss it?
No, I just didn't see him on that schedule somebody posted upthread. @Wingnut tells me he's still on, 6PM Eastern.
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No, I just didn't see him on that schedule somebody posted upthread. @Wingnut tells me he's still on, 6PM Eastern.
Yeah! I should have read down a few post before I asked! :beer:
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Mrs. Liberty tells me he's been working hard at getting his marriage with two children annulled. From what I know of the RCC, that's gonna cost him, maybe more than the various settlements.
@Cyber Liberty
That's vile. But sadly, it doesn't surprise me. If he cared about his children, he wouldn't have thrown their mother down the stairs in front of them (as his daughter testified).
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@musiclady
And downright rude to guests! THATS the thing I couldn't take most of all!
Rude to guests, and proud of it.
That's called childishness in my book.
Glad I don't watch Fox any more. It's much more interesting and edifying to get my news here. ^-^
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Rude to guests, and proud of it.
That's called childishness in my book.
Glad I don't watch Fox any more. It's much more interesting and edifying to get my news here. ^-^
Absolutely @musiclady :beer:
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This is why you remain a national treasure. Have not watched O'Baxter in 15 years.
Hannity will be next for kidding around with 'flipper'
See. Your hatred of Ted Baxter leave you with nothing tangible of this guy doing jack shit to women. I don't even watch this assclown but see this for what it is. Shutting down a center right news agency through intimidation and thug tactics.
If anyone is in denial it is people like you who are too stupid to read an article where the enemy openly brags that they are taking this idiot out with lies.
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Beck was all over this, this morning, before the announcement, trying to get his listenership on O'Reilly's side saying that Media Matters played a big part in all of this.
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OReilly was well past his sell by date. He is not a real conservative, his routine was old and tired, and most people were through with his bloviating. On top of it the guy was a pompous jerk who brought his own destruction on himself. He is no great loss to Fox. I do not see a more generalized attack on Fox so far, but we will see what happens.
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OReilly was well past his sell by date. He is not a real conservative, his routine was old and tired, and most people were through with his bloviating. On top of it the guy was a pompous jerk who brought his own destruction on himself. He is no great loss to Fox. I do not see a more generalized attack on Fox so far, but we will see what happens.
Ailes > MeAgain > O'Baxter > O' Hannity > O' Bowtie
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I liked O'Reilly back when the Clintons were in power. O'Reilly didn't pretend to be "Fair and Balanced" back then and readily spewed his hatred for anything Hillary. Once he went F&B, that was the end of him for me except on Wednesdays when I would tune in to see Dennis Miller.
Balling is a bore. The Five is boring as well. Tucker is not 8 pm material. Martha replacing Greta? It appears to me that they are destroying FOX piecemeal.
I've already made the move to OANN.
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They did the same crap to Trump as well. Luckily Trump was willing to get into the sandpit with the leftists and give it back to them twice as hard as he got it. But, O'Reilly, a TV personality whose employment will be driven by ratings and for whom negative attention isn't welcome, this is a different story.
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I liked O'Reilly back when the Clintons were in power. O'Reilly didn't pretend to be "Fair and Balanced" back then and readily spewed his hatred for anything Hillary. Once he went F&B, that was the end of him for me except on Wednesdays when I would tune in to see Dennis Miller.
Balling is a bore. The Five is boring as well. Tucker is not 8 pm material. Martha replacing Greta? It appears to me that they are destroying FOX piecemeal.
I've already made the move to OANN.
Me too.
Feeling bad for Dennis Miller and even Jesse, "This is my world" Watters. Wondering if the city tours are over.
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Thinking about it, I think Fox is going to pay a heavy price for dumping O'Reilly the way they did. He has lots of loyal followers - which are/were Fox's customers - which they just pissed off big time. The Murdoch boys are in for a rude awakening. We'll see...
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Thinking about it, I think Fox is going to pay a heavy price for dumping O'Reilly the way they did. He has lots of loyal followers - which are/were Fox's customers - which they just pissed off big time. The Murdoch boys are in for a rude awakening. We'll see...
You're probably correct. The people who've been raving over him are the people who would never watch Fox News anyway. They're pleased as punch he's fired and in disgrace, but Hell will freeze over before they watch Tucker Carlson.
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Me too.
Feeling bad for Dennis Miller and even Jesse, "This is my world" Watters. Wondering if the city tours are over.
He is replacing Bolling on The Five which is moving to 9 PM.
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He is replacing Bolling on The Five which is moving to 9 PM.
Oo............. are they going to change the name to "The Nine" now?? ^-^
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Thinking about it, I think Fox is going to pay a heavy price for dumping O'Reilly the way they did. He has lots of loyal followers - which are/were Fox's customers - which they just pissed off big time. The Murdoch boys are in for a rude awakening. We'll see...
I agree. Whatever happened with Bill, Fox could have handled it gracefully, but chose not to. Dumping him while he was on vacation without giving him the opportunity to sign off, was brutal. That's more than just firing him. That is a body slam. That is personal.
I don't think they yet realize what they have done. Whether I watched The Factor or not, I knew it was on. That is to say that it was a mental staple and a stability in my life, even if I wasn't watching. To have something like that yanked out of your life after decades, overnight, with no closure, will take some adjustment.
Fox did not just fire O'Reilly, they fired part of their audience with him. And the way they did it was a slap in the face to millions of loyal viewers. It was as if Fox News said, 'We don't give a single damn about you or what you think. We will do whatever we want anytime we want to and you can go to hell. Take your loyalty and stuff it.'
I know that Fox News thinks that they are the king of the hill and that they can do anything they want to with impunity, but once they begin insulting and disrespecting their viewers, they will soon learn how fragile their lead, and their ad revenue, always has been.
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Oo............. are they going to change the name to "The Nine" now?? ^-^
Nah, Gutfeld saiD: "Hey Its five o'clock somewhere!"
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Nah, Gutfeld saiD: "Hey Its five o'clock somewhere!"
Gutfeld always is pithy. ^-^
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SOURCE: WASHINGTON FREE BEACON
URL: http://freebeacon.com/culture/oreilly-says-completely-unfounded-claims-led-ousting/ (http://freebeacon.com/culture/oreilly-says-completely-unfounded-claims-led-ousting/)
by Nick Bolger
Bill O'Reilly released a statement on Wednesday clarifying his departure from Fox News, saying that "completely unfounded claims" were the cause.
The departure came in the wake of multiple sexual harassment allegations against the cable news star, but his statement remained positive toward his former employer, Mediaite reported.
"Over the past 20 years at Fox News, I have been extremely proud to launch and lead one of the most successful news programs in history, which has consistently informed and entertained millions of Americans and significantly contributed to building Fox into the dominant news network in television," O'Reilly stated.
"It is tremendously disheartening that we part ways due to completely unfounded claims. But that is the unfortunate reality many of us in the public eye must live with today," he continued, alluding to the sexual harassment allegations.
"I will always look back on my time at Fox with great pride in the unprecedented success we achieved and with my deepest gratitude to all my dedicated viewers. I wish only the best for Fox News Channel," he concluded.
O'Reilly had worked for Fox News for over 20 years before he was released on Wednesday.
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I personally believe O'Reilly. Sounds like he was ridden out on a steel rail.
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It could be true. I don't like the guy, but I question this.
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"Over the past 20 years at Fox News, I have been extremely proud to launch and lead one of the most successful news programs in history, which has consistently informed and entertained millions of Americans and significantly contributed to building Fox into the dominant news network in television," O'Reilly stated.
Arrogant to the end. :silly:
Frankly I hope he sues not because I want him to win but because anything that helps bring FOX down faster is appreciated.
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I personally believe O'Reilly. Sounds like he was ridden out on a steel rail.
Please...not all these women are lying...
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Fox reporter Margarette Hoover said O'Reilly did not remember her name during a segment and called Hoover 'her blondness" after the show or something like that and she said it was harrassment for that comment and she filed a complaint.
I want to see both sides but I believe O'Reilly can be a a**
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Fox reporter Margarette Hoover said O'Reilly did not remember her name during a segment and called Hoover 'her blondness" after the show or something like that and she said it was harrassment for that comment and she filed a complaint.
I want to see both sides but I believe O'Reilly can be a a**
Yeah, I heard that one too. It's hard to figure out what it was he did - was it stupid stuff like calling someone "Blondie", or was it real, predatory behavior?
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How about when he called them while he was drunk and told them he was masturbating while they talked....or having dinner and inviting her to his hotel room to further discuss her career at FOX and opening the door nude...these are just a few of the complaints..
He had to do something big for Fox to pay off Gretchen Carlson 13mil...
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Sources: Fox News payout to Bill O'Reilly will be tens of millions of dollars
CNN, Apr 20, 2017, Brian Stelter
Bill O'Reilly will be paid tens of millions of dollars on his way out of Fox News.
"It is a staggering amount," said a source personally involved in the exit maneuverings.
21st Century Fox and O'Reilly's representatives will not acknowledge the existence of a payout. A confidentiality agreement limits what the two sides can say.
But two well-placed sources confirmed to CNNMoney that O'Reilly does have a parachute. That's because O'Reilly signed a new contract right before being ousted.
The two sources, who spoke independently of one another, said the new contract was worth about $25 million per year.
O'Reilly commanded a higher sum for obvious reasons: he dominated the ratings and helped Fox News deliver record profits for its parent company.
The two sources also said the contract extended through the next presidential election, meaning it was set to expire either at the end of 2020 or sometime in 2021.
However, O'Reilly will not be paid the entire amount he was owed, one of the sources said.
More: http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/20/media/bill-oreilly-millions-payout/index.html
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Looks like Bill has a platinum parachute.
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I liked O'Reilly back when the Clintons were in power. O'Reilly didn't pretend to be "Fair and Balanced" back then and readily spewed his hatred for anything Hillary. Once he went F&B, that was the end of him for me except on Wednesdays when I would tune in to see Dennis Miller.
Balling is a bore. The Five is boring as well. Tucker is not 8 pm material. Martha replacing Greta? It appears to me that they are destroying FOX piecemeal.
I've already made the move to OANN.
OANN is great...first started watching them this time last year in Germany.
Now they just need to develop an app for smart phones.
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Thinking about it, I think Fox is going to pay a heavy price for dumping O'Reilly the way they did. He has lots of loyal followers - which are/were Fox's customers - which they just pissed off big time. The Murdoch boys are in for a rude awakening. We'll see...
Or maybe they had no choice. O'Reilly has a big ego and is a bully. Maybe this was the only option he left them with. :shrug:
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There are too many stories about O'Reilly's behavior to be ignored. He was abusive towards his ex-wife, and from all accounts is a total a-hole in the professional realm. Having bad characters in the GOP corner only discredits the conservative movement.
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Please...not all these women are lying...
It's troubling that the defendant's day in court isn't necessary anymore @mystery-ak
Are we now embracing "it's the seriousness of the charge"?
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Those are some expensive unfounded claims. He has spent over 13 Million settling these claims to date, not counting the pending ones.
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It's troubling that the defendant's day in court isn't necessary anymore @mystery-ak
Are we now embracing "it's the seriousness of the charge"?
In this case, the defendeant hasn't wanted a day in court. He has been paying millions to the accusers not to have to have to take it to court.
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Please...not all these women are lying...
I guess I'm hearing Beck go to bat for him continually which he has today and really not reading that much else. He is saying it's largely media matters doing this.
It's interesting that O'Reilly defended Herman Cain in a very similar situation, Cain paid out but O'Reilly tried to largely make it out that Cain was innocent.
I found an article with Beck I might put in the scandal area or something, a less busy thoroughfare.
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Or maybe they had no choice. O'Reilly has a big ego and is a bully. Maybe this was the only option he left them with. :shrug:
I'm going with your assessment, TRG. We've known he was a lech for some time, and he proves he's a bully with almost every interview he's done. He should go ahead and retire while he's ahead. I think Fox made a good choice with Tucker, a decision I would have opposed a couple years ago. He has improved a great deal with experience. Thank God he dumped the bow-tie shtick.
As for OANN, I have the app on my Firestick (one of the first I got for it), and didn't care for the poor production quality. Has it improved? I may go check it out again, I still have the app.
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For those of you that missed it before...ladies and gentlemen...I give you the essential Bill O'Reilly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z_GV6wMgBk
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In this case, the defendeant hasn't wanted a day in court. He has been paying millions to the accusers not to have to have to take it to court.
I don't know the specifics of the lawsuits, but I'm guessing the suits are against the corporation Fox News and not the individual Bill O'Reilly (I could be wrong).
Either way, and IMO, it is now in Fox News' best interest to insist on going through the courts or they're going to hemorrhage treasure and talent--unless, of course, the corporation has an ulterior motive for not doing so.
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Glenn Beck Reveals Media Matters Behind O’Reilly Boycotts
News Commentary
By Matt | Contributor | April 20, 2017 12:16PM
After spending two decades as the king of cable, dominating the ratings and bringing in $100 million a year in revenue for the Fox News network, Bill O’Reilly is out.
His departure came not long after the New York Times reported on April 1st that O’Reilly and Fox News paid $13 million to five women as settlements for sexual harassment complaints. The revelations led to a revolt among advertisers, even though his ratings stayed strong.
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Then O’Reilly took his annual break for Easter. But the timing naturally struck people as a bit odd, and rumors began to swirl that O’Reilly’s pre-Easter broadcast would be his last. That turned out to be the case.
“After a thorough and careful review of the allegations, the Company and Bill O’Reilly have agreed that Bill O’Reilly will not be returning to the Fox News Channel,” the company announced yesterday.” Of course, the revolt of advertisers also played a role in the decision.
And it appears the advertisers didn’t pull out because of the Times’ report itself. The settlements don’t imply an admission of guilt, after all. Rather, the extreme left group Media Matters coordinated a campaign to pressure O’Reilly’s advertisers to drop the show.
Read more: http://thepoliticalinsider.com/heres-whose-really-behind-bill-oreilly-media-matters-departure/#ixzz4eoPvj75P
Probably best not to create a whole slew of various O'Reilly threads so I post this here. I'm not a big fan of this website, "the political insider" but that doesn't mean they are wrong or always wrong.
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Arrogant to the end. :silly:
Frankly I hope he sues not because I want him to win but because anything that helps bring FOX down faster is appreciated.
Always knew you were a CNN/ MSNBC fan. Thanks for exposing that.
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How about when he called them while he was drunk and told them he was masturbating while they talked....or having dinner and inviting her to his hotel room to further discuss her career at FOX and opening the door nude...these are just a few of the complaints..
He had to do something big for Fox to pay off Gretchen Carlson 13mil...
Those claims were on Ailes, not BOR. Carlson had no claims about BOR either. What we do have is Media Matters and the Murdoch bros openly going after BOR because they want FOX to be Progressive.
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There are too many stories about O'Reilly's behavior to be ignored. He was abusive towards his ex-wife, and from all accounts is a total a-hole in the professional realm. Having bad characters in the GOP corner only discredits the conservative movement.
A pretty funny clip from the early 90s...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_HyZ5aW76c
NSFW language, IIRC
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Those claims were on Ailes, not BOR. Carlson had no claims about BOR either. What we do have is Media Matters and the Murdoch bros openly going after BOR because they want FOX to be Progressive.
The masturbating claims are against BOR...several have claimed the same thing.
I will remain a little skeptical only because Lisa Bloom and her mother Gloria Allred represent several of them.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/19/choking-harassing-and-loofahs-women-s-allegations-against-bill-o-reilly-piled-up-for-years-before-his-demise.html
Choking, Harassing, and Loofahs: Women’s Allegations Against Bill O’Reilly Piled Up for Years Before His Demise
This is just one link of hundreds with the disgusting details.....all these women can't be lying...
His own daughter testified against him.
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Or maybe they had no choice. O'Reilly has a big ego and is a bully. Maybe this was the only option he left them with. :shrug:
We'll see if Fox viewers agree. I'm not one. I think there will be consequences.
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Fox reporter Margarette Hoover said O'Reilly did not remember her name during a segment and called Hoover 'her blondness" after the show or something like that and she said it was harrassment for that comment and she filed a complaint.
calling someone "your blondness" is cause for firing? I've been called worse names than that.
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All I'll add to this conversation is remember Anita Hill...
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A pretty funny clip from the early 90s...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_HyZ5aW76c
NSFW language, IIRC
Seems a bit thin skinned...lol
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We'll see if Fox viewers agree. I'm not one. I think there will be consequences.
There are bound to be, @DB. The operative question the Murdocks had to consider was, which consequences were worse? Keeping him or letting him go?
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If Beck is such a big fan of O'Reilly's and thinks he is really innocent, that is one place BOR can go, the Blaze.
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Merged three O'Reilly threads.
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Yeah, I heard that one too. It's hard to figure out what it was he did - was it stupid stuff like calling someone "Blondie", or was it real, predatory behavior?
@Sanguine
I saw a few moments of Margaret Hoover on CNN this morning, talking with Alysyn Camerota, who used to work at Fox. Hoover said that O'Reilly never sexually harassed her, but that she always felt like she was walking a tightrope when she appeared on his show. He regularly commented on her clothing, her makeup, the length of her skirt, and she said it was clear that the assumption was he had the authority to do that kind of thing, and women were expected to pay attention to his instructions.
Camerota said that sexual harassment by Ailes was the reason she left, and she talked about the morale among women employees at Fox (it was, and still is, lousy). They all know that they don't have the option of speaking up if they want to keep their jobs. Hopefully that might be changing now.
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They did the same crap to Trump as well. Luckily Trump was willing to get into the sandpit with the leftists and give it back to them twice as hard as he got it. But, O'Reilly, a TV personality whose employment will be driven by ratings and for whom negative attention isn't welcome, this is a different story.
@JannTosh
Nobody did anything to Trump or O'Reilly. In Trump's case, it was his own mouth that caught him out on tape. With O'Reilly, it's a history of sexually harassing women going back more than a decade.
He has no one to blame but himself.
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Interesting. This was posted by a friend who used to be a financial analyst on Fox shows and worked with BORe and others. A very unique perspective, especially around changing the image of Fox to get past UK regulators to allow them to buy Sky News. (added in bold). This is one person who does know the inner workings and has legitmate connections to what is going on.
Well the end of the "O"Reilly Factor" comes down to not just whether Rupert Murdoch does not want to fire O’Reilly because it would make it appear he was forced into a decision by “the New York Times.”
My sources say inside the hallowed halls of the House of Fox the ad boycott is now worse than the Glenn Beck disaster. Morale I am told from many sources "stinks" and knives are drawn.
Fox News makes from $1 to $1.50 or more per cable subscriber per month (depending on carrier). At over 120 million cable subs, do that math. Advertising at $159 million+ for the Factor is ALL profit after paying commissions and sales force salaries/overhead but peanuts in big picture.
BUT the Murdochs are trying to buy the rest of Sky Network (think Direct TV for the UK and parts of Europe) and regulators need to determine their "suitability as public stewards." Keeping a high profile guy with a long term unambiguous record of sexual abuse/harassment does NOT look good to regulators especially after the 2012 wire-tapping debacle.
They JUST signed him to a new contract...with stiffer morals clauses reportedly. To fire him now would cost them to pay out the terms...roughly $20 million a year for say 3-4 years.
The tie-breaker is the Sky TV deal...it is growing and can be taken to many other english speaking countries.
My bet is the math (lost advertising $$ and SkyTV consolidated revenues) make Bill a goner with Tucker taking his spot and and player to be named later for Tucker's spot.
But the facts are Rupert Murdoch built his media empire without paying much attention to corporate norms and rules. His sons who tacitly run the show however showed us with the ouster of Roger Ailes that they want to run a different kind of company.
In the end what happens to O’Reilly will tell us more about who is winning the intergenerational battle over 21st Century Fox.
But to me it could not happen to a more deserving pompous degenerate.
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Also note the last line above...
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Also note the last line above...
@AbaraXas
From someone who's in a position to know.
I personally don't care how badly Fox suffers. They've actively nurtured an environment where women are harassed and "know their place".
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@AbaraXas
From someone who's in a position to know.
I personally don't care how badly Fox suffers. They've actively nurtured an environment where women are harassed and "know their place".
O'Relly's response makes it believable simply because he clearly sees himself as the most important person at FOX and above reproach.
People with that kind of overinflated self worth tend to not be big fans of following rules or respecting others.
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O'Relly's response makes it believable simply because he clearly sees himself as the most important person at FOX and above reproach.
People with that kind of overinflated self worth tend to not be big fans of following rules or respecting others.
@Cripplecreek
Yes,and that sense of entitlement was always glaringly obvious.
Conservatives have to stop enabling his kind of sorry behavior by giving knee-jerk defense just because the person says some things we like.
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@AbaraXas
From someone who's in a position to know.
I personally don't care how badly Fox suffers. They've actively nurtured an environment where women are harassed and "know their place".
I don't think Fox or O'Really are suffering, so they're just an academic discussion to me. I do feel bad if the women working there are having a difficult go of it, to a point. Many appear to have been hired for their looks, so that tempers my pity, like Laurie Dhue.
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@Cripplecreek
Conservatives have to stop enabling his kind of sorry behavior by giving knee-jerk defense just because the person says some things we like.
Can't be repeated often enough.
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O'Relly's response makes it believable simply because he clearly sees himself as the most important person at FOX and above reproach.
People with that kind of overinflated self worth tend to not be big fans of following rules or respecting others.
Ted Baxter's personality isn't the point here. He is a fairly stupid gas bag. The point is that a concerted effort by the Left to take him out succeeded based on hearsay and lame allegations that were never expanded upon. The whole thing stinks.
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@Cripplecreek
Yes,and that sense of entitlement was always glaringly obvious.
Conservatives have to stop enabling his kind of sorry behavior by giving knee-jerk defense just because the person says some things we like.
They are just like any other celebrity. If we put them on pedestals and treat them like gods they begin to believe and act like it.
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Emails show how desperate Bill O'Reilly's lawyers tried to save his job the day before being fired with 'evidence' he was being targeted by a smear campaign
O'Reilly's legal team discussed whether or not to share an April 13 email that announced two conference calls with liberal watchdog group Media Matters
Calls were originally scheduled for Thursday and Friday with groups president
Media Matters had spearheaded an 'advertiser education campaign' to have companies drop from advertising on The O'Reilly Factor
According to Politico, purpose of the calls were 'to discuss the success of the campaign so far, and our plans moving forward.'
The Media Matters emails allegedly served as 'evidence' for O'Reilly that he was being targeted in a smear campaign
His legal team was deciding whether or not to bring the emails to the Murdochs, but ultimately didn't as he was fired on Wednesday after 20 years at network
O'Reilly will be getting $25million from the network after being terminated in the wake of the latest Fox News sexual harassment scandal
By Regina F. Graham and Chris Spargo For Dailymail.com
Published: 20:14 EDT, 20 April 2017 | Updated: 01:56 EDT, 21 April 2017
The day before Fox News ousted host Bill O'Reilly, the anchor's lawyers tried desperately to save his job with 'evidence' that he was being targeted by a smear campaign, a new report claims.
On Tuesday, O'Reilly's legal team debated sending Fox emails that showed how a liberal watchdog group was celebrating the success of its campaign to get advertisers to drop his show.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4431004/Emails-Bill-O-Reilly-tried-save-job-Fox.html#ixzz4etkSCDPs
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The usual self-righteousness abounds. Might as well chart some to David Brock's and Media Matters' side. Do they ever actually support conservatives or perhaps better said, conservatives that might actually achieve something?
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Yes, the ad boycott was being led by the same group that boycotted Beck and Limbaugh.
O'Reilly's history of sexual harassment is a separate matter.