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Trump probe: law enforcement don’t expect arraignment until next week, virtual option off the table
Bradford Betz, Marta Dhanis
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Law enforcement officials met behind closed doors Monday to discuss the logistics of arraigning former President Trump following his possible indictment over hush-money payments made on his behalf during the 2016 presidential campaign.
A law enforcement source told Fox News Monday that the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office and different branches of law enforcement discussed the logistics of closing down streets and putting lights up with generators, extra barriers, and extra police.
The source said law enforcement does not expect the former president to be arraigned until next week as the Manhattan grand jury – which has been meeting secretly to hear evidence for weeks – has another witness on Wednesday. A virtual option was apparently ruled out as the District Attorney is opposed to it.
The source told Fox News that law enforcement is concerned about safety. If the former president does come up to Manhattan, there will be a major police presence and the area will get shut down. Trump has called on his supporters to protest ahead of a possible indictment.
more
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-probe-law-enforcement-dont-expect-arraignment-next-week-virtual-option-off-table
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This maybe a ploy to distract Trump's supporters and secretly indict him....just throwing that out there..
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This maybe a ploy to distract Trump's supporters and secretly indict him....just throwing that out there..
A definite possibility.
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They do seem easily distracted.
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This maybe a ploy to distract Trump's supporters and secretly indict him....just throwing that out there..
It may have more to do with the Republican "invitation" to reply by Thursday. I'm grateful to McCarthy, Jordan, Comer and other officeholders for understanding that this matters to --- in Jordan's words --- "Real America" and for taking it seriously :patriot:
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Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
God Bless President Trump. Real America knows this is all a sham.
1:04 PM · Mar 18, 2023
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"This is such an important monologue from @TuckerCarlson. I don't believe that Americans want to live in a world where one party normalizes the political persecution of the other. That doesn't sound much like America to me at all. (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/KariLake/status/1637985964818825216
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Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson
If the Democratic Party is allowed to take out the presidential front runner — the main threat to their power — with a bogus criminal case, we’re done. That precedent will live forever. Voters will never determine the outcome of another election.
8:44 PM · Mar 20, 2023
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Ted Cruz
@tedcruz
Make no mistake: Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is a partisan Democrat who hates Donald Trump.
Bragg doesn't have a right to abuse and corrupt the justice system to persecute his political opponents!
5:56 PM · Mar 20, 2023
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Ted Cruz
@tedcruz
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s case against Donald Trump is utter and complete crap!
It’s obviously political retribution and political persecution. #Verdict
2:54 PM · Mar 20, 2023
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Shit or get off the pot Alvin.
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Ted Cruz
@tedcruz
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s case against Donald Trump is utter and complete crap!
It’s obviously political retribution and political persecution. #Verdict
2:54 PM · Mar 20, 2023
The same Ted Cruz who called all the J6 protestors terriorist? I have to hand it to you @Right_in_Virginia .... You cherry pick POV's articles, and info better than anyone I haver known, for your Orange Crusade.
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With Tangerine Mussolini, I never expect an arraignment ... that guy could win a slippery contest against an eel.
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Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson
If the Democratic Party is allowed to take out the presidential front runner — the main threat to their power — with a bogus criminal case, we’re done. That precedent will live forever. Voters will never determine the outcome of another election.
8:44 PM · Mar 20, 2023
Big fan of Tucker, but until he comes clean on why he wimped out on the unreleased J6 film coverage, I got to wonder about side agendas.
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NY grand jury could move forward on Trump indictment after safety measures are complete
Rachel Schilke
28 minutes ago
The Manhattan grand jury investigating former President Donald Trump could move forward with an indictment as soon as law enforcement officials have safety measures in place in the event of protesting or violence.
Trump announced on Truth Social over the weekend that he expected to be arrested on Tuesday, decrying "illegal leaks" and a "highly political" prosecutor preparing to take him into custody. After putting “protest, take our nation back" in his message, law enforcement officers in New York and Washington, among others, began to prepare for any chances of unrest akin to what was seen at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
While there has been no confirmation from the prosecutors in Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office that an indictment is coming, they took an important step by hearing testimony from Robert Costello, a lawyer who said he had information regarding the credibility of Michael Cohen, who already testified before the grand jury.
All New York Police Department officers were told to wear full uniforms starting at 7 a.m. on Tuesday, including detectives who usually dress in plainclothes. Hundreds of riot police officers have been mobilized as well.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/courts/manhattan-da-grand-jury-pursue-trump-indictment-safety-measures
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NYPD Mobilizing 700 Riot Police, Erecting Barricades Prior to Alleged Trump Arrest
Reports from sources ranging from Bloomberg to The Daily Mail have revealed that New York has mobilized 700 Riot gear-clad NYPD officers and erected security barricades and surveillance cameras outside of the Manhattan Criminal Court and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office ahead of the rumored indictment of the 45th President Donald Trump.
According to Todd Starnes, NYPD has reportedly mobilized 700 riot police in preparation for expected protests in response to the alleged upcoming arrest of the 45th President of the United States. NBC4 New York reported that several agencies in addition to NYPD such as the United States Secret Service and the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force are collaborating on increased security measures.
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https://dcenquirer.com/nypd-mobilizing-700-riot-police-erecting-barricades-prior-to-alleged-trump-arrest/
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The same Ted Cruz who called all the J6 protestors terriorist? I have to hand it to you @Right_in_Virginia .... You cherry pick POV's articles, and info better than anyone I haver known, for your Orange Crusade.
You could do the same, but then you'd be quoting from members of the Bill Crystal, Rick Wilson, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Jeb Bush, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger Club. ---- and truth doesn't help the Meatball Crusade.
I feel for ya, pal.
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NYPD Mobilizing 700 Riot Police, Erecting Barricades Prior to Alleged Trump Arrest
Since Alvin doesn't prosecute, it's not like they are overburdened anyway. Might as well give them something to do, even if it's just for show.
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“Tremendous Amount of Danger”: Secret Service Recommends Virtual Arraignment of Trump
Mark Steffen
White House Secret Service reportedly recommended that New York state authorities pursue a virtual arrest of President Donald Trump in a pending case by the Manhattan district attorney, citing a “tremendous amount of danger” by attempting a physical arrest at his residence in Florida.
Sources speaking with Fox News said the meeting, held at NYPD headquarters on Monday, encompassed an all-hands-on-deck effort required to execute the first criminal arrest of a president in the nation’s history. Should a physical arrest be needed, the Secret Service would take the lead.
By leaking news of an impending indictment, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has brought a host of logistical nightmares on officers involved in the case.
“That created a lot of security issues. The chance of anyone getting hurt has dramatically increased,” the source said.
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https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/breaking-secret-service-recommends-virtual-arraignment-of-trump-cites-tremendous-amount-of-danger-mstef/
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Paranoia, hysteria, and fearmongering.
Alvin is far tougher on fictional, manufactured right-wing terrorists than actual crime.
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“Tremendous Amount of Danger”: Secret Service Recommends Virtual Arraignment of Trump
Mark Steffen
White House Secret Service reportedly recommended that New York state authorities pursue a virtual arrest of President Donald Trump in a pending case by the Manhattan district attorney, citing a “tremendous amount of danger” by attempting a physical arrest at his residence in Florida.
Sources speaking with Fox News said the meeting, held at NYPD headquarters on Monday, encompassed an all-hands-on-deck effort required to execute the first criminal arrest of a president in the nation’s history. Should a physical arrest be needed, the Secret Service would take the lead.
By leaking news of an impending indictment, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has brought a host of logistical nightmares on officers involved in the case.
“That created a lot of security issues. The chance of anyone getting hurt has dramatically increased,” the source said.
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https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/breaking-secret-service-recommends-virtual-arraignment-of-trump-cites-tremendous-amount-of-danger-mstef/
Since when does NY have jurisdiction or authority to go to Florida to arrest someone there for a violation of NY law???
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Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
NEVER FORGET: In 2018, Stormy Daniels said she never had an affair with Trump. In fact, she said it was all made up to get money.
Stormy lost her lawsuit against Trump and was ordered to pay him $300k for legal fees, and her creepy porn lawyer was sentenced to 14 years in prison.
1:43 PM · Mar 21, 2023
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Update: Authorities now don't expect a potential arraignment for Trump, if he is indicted, until next week due to testimony from the additional witness...
Looks like we are on hold. The big Orange Tang that chased the porn stars poontang will have a week or so to run his mouth.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2023/03/21/grand-jury-to-hear-testimony-next-week-delaying-potential-trump-indictment-n2620947
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Update: Authorities now don't expect a potential arraignment for Trump, if he is indicted, until next week due to testimony from the additional witness...
Looks like we are on hold. The big Orange Tang that chased the porn stars poontang will have a week or so to run his mouth.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2023/03/21/grand-jury-to-hear-testimony-next-week-delaying-potential-trump-indictment-n2620947
Any meltdowns on Twitter?
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Trump claims Michael Cohen asked him for a pardon three times: Ex-president calls his fixer a 'serial liar' who was only interested in himself - as world waits for Stormy Daniels indictment
A grand jury in New York is close to deciding whether to indict Donald Trump
His former fixer and lawyer Michael Cohen is a key witness in the case
On Tuesday, Trump took to social media to undermine former ally's credibility
By Rob Crilly, Senior U.S. Political Reporter For Dailymail.Com
Published: 11:34 EDT, 21 March 2023 | Updated: 13:30 EDT, 21 March 2023
Donald Trump ramped up his attacks on his former lawyer and fixer on Tuesday morning, claiming Michael Cohen asked him three times for a presidential pardon.
Cohen is a key witness as prosecutors build their case against Trump over $130,000 of hush money paid to adult film star Stormy Daniels.
Security has been tightened around Lower Manhattan's court complex as a grand jury considers whether to bring an indictment against the former president.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11885943/Trump-claims-Michael-Cohen-asked-pardon-three-times-calls-fixer-serial-liar.html
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Exclusive — House Administration Chair Bryan Steil: Alvin Bragg Has ‘Until Thursday to Come Forward’ to Congress
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg faces a Thursday deadline to come forward to appear before three congressional panels for a transcribed interview, the chairman of one of those committees told Breitbart News exclusively at the House GOP retreat.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/03/21/exclusive-house-administration-chair-bryan-steil-alvin-bragg-has-until-thursday-to-come-forward-congress/
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Jim Jordan on Jesse Watter's Show (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1638326949301854213
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March 21, 2023 6:59pm EDT
Trump has not been notified whether Manhattan DA plans to bring charges: sources
Sources said there remains chance Bragg does not choose to indict former president
By Brooke Singman , Marta Dhanis | Fox News
Former President Donald Trump has not been formally notified about whether Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg plans to bring charges against him, sources familiar told Fox News Digital, amid speculation of a possible imminent indictment.
Sources told Fox News, though, that there remains a real chance that Bragg does not choose to indict the former president.
Multiple sources told Fox News that at least one more witness is expected to appear before the grand jury when it convenes Wednesday at 2 p.m. in Manhattan. It is unclear at this point who the witness or witnesses are.
Grand jury deliberations and votes are secret proceedings, and an indictment typically remains under seal until an arraignment.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-president-trump-not-notified-whether-charges-coming-in-manhattan-da-probe-sources
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This maybe a ploy to distract Trump's supporters and secretly indict him....just throwing that out there..
@mystery-ak
I dunno about that. It would also rob them of the publicity they would get. The Dims NEED a public spectacle.
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Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
NEVER FORGET: In 2018, Stormy Daniels said she never had an affair with Trump. In fact, she said it was all made up to get money.
Stormy lost her lawsuit against Trump and was ordered to pay him $300k for legal fees, and her creepy porn lawyer was sentenced to 14 years in prison.
1:43 PM · Mar 21, 2023
@Right_in_Virginia
YIKES!
Thankfully I am ignorant of the legal system,but seeing a complainant's lawyer get a 14 year prison sentence is something I have never seen or even heard of.
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Ted Cruz:. "Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s case against Donald Trump is frivolous and absurd on its face! It’s a political persecution. It’s not a prosecution." (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1638359824244121600
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Ted Cruz:. "Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s case against Donald Trump is frivolous and absurd on its face! It’s a political persecution. It’s not a prosecution." (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1638359824244121600
And, that is the crux of it. What I may or may not think of the man is irrelevant.
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Ted Cruz:. "Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s case against Donald Trump is frivolous and absurd on its face! It’s a political persecution. It’s not a prosecution." (Video)
He's right, but a dumbed down population doesn't give a shit. They don't understand anything of any complexity.
The sheeple mentality and their MSM/Big Tech propaganda sources now control narrative.
By 2030, I am guessing any thinking right of center will be outlawed.
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Trump attorney may be limited in defense after texts with Stormy Daniels handed over to district attorney: Report
Cami Mondeaux
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Text communications between adult film actress Stormy Daniels and an attorney who now represents former President Donald Trump have been turned over to the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office, possibly complicating the former president’s defense ahead of a looming indictment.
The Manhattan district attorney obtained text messages dating back to 2018, when Daniels was seeking legal representation after she first sued Trump for allegedly paying her to keep quiet about having an affair, according to CNN. Those communications were exchanged with Joe Tacopina, who is now the defense lawyer for Trump in the same case.
The text messages contain details about Daniels’s testimony in the case and could be considered confidential, according to her current attorney, Clark Brewster. As a result, the messages could limit Tacopina in his defense of Trump, possibly complicating his case if he goes to trial.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/courts/texts-between-stormy-daniels-trump-attorney-handed-over
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Talk about "un-due" process......
To me it sounds like a flanking manuever with the understanding that the NY DA can't win an outright case. Lots of legal experts have weighed in, and it is pretty much universally believed that this is not a convictable offense. Even the left leaning MSM pundits have said this.
But if they can get DJT cuffed, in an orange suit, mug shotted, and get some dna, they'll think they've won, no matter what. And in the court of opinion where perception is 10X powerful than the truth? Who says they aren't right.
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This maybe a ploy to distract Trump's supporters and secretly indict him....just throwing that out there..
They'll have to make it public at some point if they intend to use the resulting indictment to bring charges.
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Kinda reminds me what the Austin dems did to Tom 'The Hammer' Delay.
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Kinda reminds me what the Austin dems did to Tom 'The Hammer' Delay.
Exactly....
Maybe one of the last bastions of power of what constituted fiscal sanity and responsibility.
Everything the socialist dims are against.
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You could do the same, but then you'd be quoting from members of the Bill Crystal, Rick Wilson, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Jeb Bush, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger Club. ---- and truth doesn't help the Meatball Crusade.
I feel for ya, pal.
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March 21, 2023 6:59pm EDT
Trump has not been notified whether Manhattan DA plans to bring charges: sources
Sources said there remains chance Bragg does not choose to indict former president
By Brooke Singman , Marta Dhanis | Fox News
Former President Donald Trump has not been formally notified about whether Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg plans to bring charges against him, sources familiar told Fox News Digital, amid speculation of a possible imminent indictment.
Sources told Fox News, though, that there remains a real chance that Bragg does not choose to indict the former president.
Multiple sources told Fox News that at least one more witness is expected to appear before the grand jury when it convenes Wednesday at 2 p.m. in Manhattan. It is unclear at this point who the witness or witnesses are.
Grand jury deliberations and votes are secret proceedings, and an indictment typically remains under seal until an arraignment.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-president-trump-not-notified-whether-charges-coming-in-manhattan-da-probe-sources
I'm skeptical he will and i'm skeptical he won't. The blue checks would lose their shit if nothing happened.
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Day Two of waiting for Trump's indictment, and Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
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Fox reporting the Grand Jury NOT meeting today...will update
Grand Jury on *stand-by* for tomorrow...
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Steven Bognar
@Bogs4NY
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Two sources familiar with the matter tell @NBCNewYork
the Manhattan DA has told the grand jury hearing evidence in the Trump/Daniels investigation to stay home today & be on standby for tomorrow. The reason for the delay is unclear. #nbc4ny
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And, that is the crux of it. What I may or may not think of the man is irrelevant.
@Lando Lincoln
Damn shame he is a homo. He would have made a fine Presidential candidate.
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He's right, but a dumbed down population doesn't give a shit. They don't understand anything of any complexity.
The sheeple mentality and their MSM/Big Tech propaganda sources now control narrative.
By 2030, I am guessing any thinking right of center will be outlawed.
@catfish1957
I wouldn't bet against it.
THAT is why I am such a rabid supporter of the only candidate who is not a professional pol,but a bombthrower who doesn't give a damn whose toes he steps on because his ego DEMANDS that IF he is elected,the only thing that will matter to him is that he goes down in the history books as "The President that saved America."
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Talk about "un-due" process......
To me it sounds like a flanking manuever with the understanding that the NY DA can't win an outright case. Lots of legal experts have weighed in, and it is pretty much universally believed that this is not a convictable offense. Even the left leaning MSM pundits have said this.
But if they can get DJT cuffed, in an orange suit, mug shotted, and get some dna, they'll think they've won, no matter what. And in the court of opinion where perception is 10X powerful than the truth? Who says they aren't right.
@catfish1957
That DOES seem to be the plan.
Their fall-back position seems to be if all else fails,use some of the dirt they have on him to try to force him to step down. Or at least try to. Trump has such a massive ego he is just as likely to start bragging about it and make it irrelevant.
I,personally don't give a damn if he has sex with monkies,as long as he is elected and tries to get America back on a Constitutional status instead of trying to turn us into a member of "World Wide Government,Inc".
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Steven Bognar
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Two sources familiar with the matter tell @NBCNewYork
the Manhattan DA has told the grand jury hearing evidence in the Trump/Daniels investigation to stay home today & be on standby for tomorrow. The reason for the delay is unclear. #nbc4ny
Has the case already fallen to crap?
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Has the case already fallen to crap?
Bragg may end up being “ Nifonged”
Would be a little bit of a breather for the people of New York City if he was forced out
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Bragg may end up being “ Nifonged”
Would be a little bit of a breather for the people of New York City if he was forced out
That would be nice, but it will never, ever happen in NY, and particularly not in NYC.
The disciplinary committees in NY are particularly spineless when it comes to disciplining prosecutors, and particularly so when it would be a matter of disciplining a liberal/leftist prosecutor who attempted to prosecute a right-of-center white male like Trump.
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March 22, 2023 12:41pm EDT
Trump hush-money grand jury proceedings 'canceled' for Wednesday, sources say
Grand jury proceedings canceled amid ‘major dissension’ in DA's office, sources tell Fox News
By Brooke Singman , Marta Dhanis , Chris Pandolfo | Fox News
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office has "canceled" the grand jury meeting that was scheduled to take place Wednesday as part of the investigation into former President Trump, amid speculation of a possible indictment, two sources familiar told Fox News.
The grand jury was slated to meet Wednesday and was expected to hear from at least one additional witness, but Fox News has learned that Bragg's office "canceled" the proceedings.
The grand jury was notified Wednesday morning, and was placed "on standby" for Thursday, a source told Fox News.
Two sources familiar told Fox News Digital on Wednesday that the grand jury was canceled amid "major dissension" within the district attorney's office. One source claimed the district attorney is having trouble convincing the grand jury on potential charges due to the "weakness" of the case.
Despite rumors of a potential imminent indictment, sources familiar told Fox News Digital that Trump has not been formally notified about whether Bragg actually plans to bring charges against him.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-hush-money-grand-jury-proceedings-canceled-wednesday-sources-say
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Seems like they are interested in bleeding all the neative publicity for Trump out of these charges they can before actually charging him in court,doesn't it?
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https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1638518273191837696
The Manhattan DA cancelled his planned arrest of President Trump when his final grand jury witness told the jurors that Bragg was hiding hundreds of pages of exculpatory evidence from them. Bragg is at risk of being charged with prosecutorial misconduct.
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Bragg may end up being “ Nifonged”
Would be a little bit of a breather for the people of New York City if he was forced out
Two little bitches if ever there was.
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https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1638518273191837696
The Manhattan DA cancelled his planned arrest of President Trump when his final grand jury witness told the jurors that Bragg was hiding hundreds of pages of exculpatory evidence from them. Bragg is at risk of being charged with prosecutorial misconduct.
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This is why I hate woke Marxists to my core. I am a god amongst men, you are subhuman and racist, I don't have to follow the rules like you do.
It is criminal and he needs to be disbarred and charged.
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Bragg may end up being “ Nifonged”
Would be a little bit of a breather for the people of New York City if he was forced out
That is who came to mind when I saw my Tweet. That dude in NC who got in a lot of trouble (actually ruined his life/career) for just this sort of nonsense.
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This is why I hate woke Marxists to my core. I am a god amongst men, you are subhuman and racist, I don't have to follow the rules like you do.
It is criminal and he needs to be disbarred and charged.
Why is it criminal? It is my understanding that even in NY, disclosure of exculpatory evidence to the grand jury is only obligatory in certain limited circumstances.
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Prosecutors generally have limited obligations to disclose exculpatory information to a grand jury.
Federal case law: U.S. v. Williams, 504 U.S. 36, 112 S. Ct. 1735 (1992)
NY: People v. Patsy Mitchell, 82 N.Y.2d 509 (1993)
In NY, if the prosecutor introduces an inculpatory statement, the prosecutor is obliged to introduce an exculpatory statement that was given during the same interrogation. People v. Falcon, 204 A.D.2d 181 (1st Dept. 1994).
So, perhaps the grand jury might be feeling a little less than friendly toward the DA if they feel they were denied exculpatory material, but that is a decision that is generally left to the prerogative of the prosecutor, and it is up to the grand jury, in the first instance, to take action if they feel that they should have been provided with the exculpatory material.
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Why is it criminal? It is my understanding that even in NY, disclosure of exculpatory evidence to the grand jury is only obligatory in certain limited circumstances.
I forgot it is a grand jury and not a trial. The rules are different I know.
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I forgot it is a grand jury and not a trial. The rules are different I know.
Did not know that, thanks.
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A 2018 Letter from Michael Cohen’s lawyer states that Cohen used his own personal funds to pay $130,000 to Stormy Daniels and that the Trump Org nor Campaign was a party to the transaction did not reimburse Cohen for the payment directly or indirectly.
https://twitter.com/alx/status/1638659200724217865
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March 23, 2023 10:29am EDT
NY grand jury not expected to consider Trump case Thursday, source says
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg had convened grand jury to hear evidence in case against former President Donald Trump
By Marta Dhanis , Chris Pandolfo | Fox News
A Manhattan grand jury will not hear testimony, deliberate or vote on the hush-money case against former President Donald Trump Thursday, a source has confirmed to Fox News.
Since the grand jury does not sit on Fridays, a vote on the Trump case is not expected this week, according to the source.
The grand jury will meet Thursday about a different case, the source said. This grand jury has been considering other cases and is also a special "investigative" grand jury.
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has been investigating whether Trump violated the law by making alleged hush-money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels in 2016.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ny-grand-jury-not-expected-consider-trump-case-thursday-source-says
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Prediction:
This goes nowhere and the media and Democrats work together to try to bury this. It’ll be just another in the long line of “the walls are closing in on Trump.”
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March 23, 2023 10:29am EDT
NY grand jury not expected to consider Trump case Thursday, source says
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg had convened grand jury to hear evidence in case against former President Donald Trump
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And if not next week,the week after. And maybe even the week after that, if the Dim polling tells them people are still buying it.
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And if not next week,the week after. And maybe even the week after that, if the Dim polling tells them people are still buying it.
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There is an old saying that reminds me of Alvin's predicament.
It goes something like this, In a bacon and egg breakfast, what's the difference between the chicken and the pig?
The chicken is involved, but the pig is COMMITTED!
With all the time and effort Bragg has expended in this farce he can't not bring charges. He is a committed pig.
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thehill.com
Bragg says Trump created ‘false expectation’ on potential arrest
Rebecca Beitsch
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) for the first time on Thursday addressed a claim by former President Trump that he would be arrested in connection to an investigation into a hush money payment made to adult film star Stormy Daniels, calling it the creation of a “false expectation.”
Bragg, in response to demands by House Republicans to force his testimony and turn over all documents and communication on the case, wrote in a letter to Congress that such a move was an “unprecendent[ed] inquiry into a pending local prosecution.”
“The letter only came after Donald Trump created a false expectation that he would be arrested the next day and his lawyers reportedly urged you to intervene,” Bragg wrote.
Trump wrote in a Truth Social post over the weekend that he expected to be arrested on Tuesday in connection to the probe, but as of Thursday morning, no charges have been announced and the grand jury weighing the case is not expected to meet for the rest of the week.
more
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3914396-bragg-says-trump-created-false-expectation-on-potential-arrest/
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Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
BREAKING: Grand jury to reconvene in New York at noon— but charges against Trump won't be considered until next week
11:07 AM · Mar 23, 2023
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Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
BREAKING: Grand jury to reconvene in New York at noon— but charges against Trump won't be considered until next week
11:07 AM · Mar 23, 2023
So what is there to talk about?
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Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
BREAKING: Grand jury to reconvene in New York at noon— but charges against Trump won't be considered until next week
11:07 AM · Mar 23, 2023
Do that shifty shuffle Alvin, do it side-to-side.
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thehill.com
Bragg says Trump created ‘false expectation’ on potential arrest
Rebecca Beitsch
Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
So if Trump created a "false expectation" about his impending arrest as Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg has now indicated, why the multi-year investigation? Why impanel a grand jury? Why the barricades at the Manhattan criminal court? Why the glowing propaganda profile in Politico?
11:55 AM · Mar 23, 2023
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thehill.com
Bragg says Trump created ‘false expectation’ on potential arrest
Rebecca Beitsch
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) for the first time on Thursday addressed a claim by former President Trump that he would be arrested in connection to an investigation into a hush money payment made to adult film star Stormy Daniels, calling it the creation of a “false expectation.”
Bragg, in response to demands by House Republicans to force his testimony and turn over all documents and communication on the case, wrote in a letter to Congress that such a move was an “unprecendent[ed] inquiry into a pending local prosecution.”
“The letter only came after Donald Trump created a false expectation that he would be arrested the next day and his lawyers reportedly urged you to intervene,” Bragg wrote.
Trump wrote in a Truth Social post over the weekend that he expected to be arrested on Tuesday in connection to the probe, but as of Thursday morning, no charges have been announced and the grand jury weighing the case is not expected to meet for the rest of the week.
more
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3914396-bragg-says-trump-created-false-expectation-on-potential-arrest/
Now that is some major league back peddling if you ask me. :silly:
2 weeks from now I am guessing the world is laughing their assess off at this guy, and all the future memes he generates.
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thehill.com
Bragg says Trump created ‘false expectation’ on potential arrest
Rebecca Beitsch
Manhattan DA's office 'asked for a meeting' with law enforcement ahead of possible Trump indictment
Fox News, Mar 17, 2023
https://www.fox26houston.com/news/manhattan-das-office-asked-meeting-law-enforcement-possible-trump-indictment
Trump says 'illegal leaks' indicate he'll be arrested Tuesday
Fox News, Mar 18, 2023
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-illegal-leaks-indicate-arrested-tuesday
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
So if Trump created a "false expectation" about his impending arrest as Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg has now indicated, why the multi-year investigation? Why impanel a grand jury? Why the barricades at the Manhattan criminal court? Why the glowing propaganda profile in Politico?
11:55 AM · Mar 23, 2023
Haha... I guess Trump played them all? I gotta hand it to the guy, he's crazy like a fox.
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
So if Trump created a "false expectation" about his impending arrest as Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg has now indicated, why the multi-year investigation? Why impanel a grand jury? Why the barricades at the Manhattan criminal court? Why the glowing propaganda profile in Politico?
11:55 AM · Mar 23, 2023
It sure keeps the Biden Family name out of the headlines/news cycle.
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So now the grand jury hasn't sat today or yesterday, and as a general rule doesn't sit on Fridays (tomorrow), so there won't be a vote by the grand jury until at least some time next week.
Source: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2023/03/23/trump-indictment-delayed-yet-again-n2621042
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@catfish1957
I am beginning to think the same thing.
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So now the grand jury hasn't sat today or yesterday, and as a general rule doesn't sit on Fridays (tomorrow), so there won't be a vote by the grand jury until at least some time next week.
Source: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2023/03/23/trump-indictment-delayed-yet-again-n2621042
The Orange ham samtich has been given a 3 day reprieve. He can post up on unTruth Scocal all weekend. Bless his orange heart.
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If there is not an indictment by early next week Don or Don Jr will TruthSocial that the Corrupt NY DA's distant cousin in Nevada has bought an assault weapon with an illegal bump stock and a bus ticket to Florida. That will really get his base going :smokin:
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Trump’s bizarre behavior a gift to the left just as public opinion was turning on Bragg
By Michael Goodwin
March 25, 2023
It’s not news that Donald Trump is the worst of his own enemies, but he outdid himself with his latest bizarre behavior.
His social media warning early Friday that “death and destruction” could follow if he’s criminally charged in the Stormy Daniels case came as he posted an image of himself holding a baseball bat next to a photo of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s head.
“What kind of person,” Trump wrote, “can charge another person, in this case a former president of the United States, who got more votes than any sitting president in history, and leading candidate (by far!) for the Republican Party nomination, with a crime, when it is known by all that NO crime has been committed, & also that potential death & destruction in such a false charge could be catastrophic for our country?”
Sensible voters might reasonably ask what kind of person facing charges encourages mayhem.
And what kind of defendant calls the prosecutor “a degenerate psychopath,” as Trump also did?
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Source: https://nypost.com/2023/03/25/trumps-bizarre-behavior-a-gift-to-the-left-just-as-public-opinion-was-turning-on-bragg/
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Trump’s bizarre behavior a gift to the left just as public opinion was turning on Bragg
By Michael Goodwin
March 25, 2023
It’s not news that Donald Trump is the worst of his own enemies, but he outdid himself with his latest bizarre behavior.
His social media warning early Friday that “death and destruction” could follow if he’s criminally charged in the Stormy Daniels case came as he posted an image of himself holding a baseball bat next to a photo of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s head.
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Source: https://nypost.com/2023/03/25/trumps-bizarre-behavior-a-gift-to-the-left-just-as-public-opinion-was-turning-on-bragg/
I think most of us defended Trump after J6, because he very specifically told his crowd to "march peacefully". to the Capitol to protest.
Saying this, and holding a bat in a menacing manner only infers this SOB can't help himself.
To the orange mob here..... How does this "NOT" extrapolate to violence? And don't give me that alegorical inclination word salad bull shit.
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I think most of us defended Trump after J6, because he very specifically told his crowd to "march peacefully". to the Capitol to protest.
Saying this, and holding a bat in a menacing manner only infers this SOB can't help himself.
To the orange mob here..... How does this "NOT" extrapolate to violence? And don't give me that alegorical inclination word salad bull shit.
Agreed.
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Trump’s bizarre behavior a gift to the left just as public opinion was turning on Bragg
By Michael Goodwin
March 25, 2023
It’s not news that Donald Trump is the worst of his own enemies, but he outdid himself with his latest bizarre behavior.
His social media warning early Friday that “death and destruction” could follow if he’s criminally charged in the Stormy Daniels case came as he posted an image of himself holding a baseball bat next to a photo of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s head.
“What kind of person,” Trump wrote, “can charge another person, in this case a former president of the United States, who got more votes than any sitting president in history, and leading candidate (by far!) for the Republican Party nomination, with a crime, when it is known by all that NO crime has been committed, & also that potential death & destruction in such a false charge could be catastrophic for our country?”
Sensible voters might reasonably ask what kind of person facing charges encourages mayhem.
And what kind of defendant calls the prosecutor “a degenerate psychopath,” as Trump also did?
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Source: https://nypost.com/2023/03/25/trumps-bizarre-behavior-a-gift-to-the-left-just-as-public-opinion-was-turning-on-bragg/
@Kamaji
Well,if you can't trust the New York Post to tell the truth about a Republican candidate who is a threat to the left,who CAN you trust?
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@Kamaji
Well,if you can't trust the New York Post to tell the truth about a Republican candidate who is a threat to the left,who CAN you trust?
:mauslaff:
Here, this'll help you keep painting yourself into that corner:
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@Kamaji
Well,if you can't trust the New York Post to tell the truth about a Republican candidate who is a threat to the left,who CAN you trust?
OMG....
Pete... you realize this is the same NY Post that broke the Hunter Biden Laptop Story? Hardly left wing.
Wake up dude.
:silly:
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OMG....
Pete... you realize this is the same NY Post that broke the Hunter Biden Laptop Story? Hardly left wing.
Wake up dude.
:silly:
@catfish1957
No. I don't read any NYC or other foreign publications unless something by them is posted on TBR.
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@catfish1957
No. I don't read any NYC or other foreign publications unless something by them is posted on TBR.
Then maybe you should keep this on your scorecard: the NY Post is the most conservative of the major NYC publications and endorsed Trump in 2020: https://nypost.com/2020/10/26/the-new-york-post-endorses-president-donald-j-trump-for-re-election/
Try not to confuse the NY Post with either the NY Times or the NY Daily News, both of which are left-wing rags.
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@catfish1957
No. I don't read any NYC or other foreign publications unless something by them is posted on TBR.
Too bad there isn't some form or fashion of a quadruple face palm meme.
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Then maybe you should keep this on your scorecard: the NY Post is the most conservative of the major NYC publications and endorsed Trump in 2020: https://nypost.com/2020/10/26/the-new-york-post-endorses-president-donald-j-trump-for-re-election/
Try not to confuse the NY Post with either the NY Times or the NY Daily News, both of which are left-wing rags.
@Kamaji
Just out of curiousity,how are their sales in NY compared to the other news papers?
I am certain that not ALL NY'ers are left-wing loons,but have no idea how large that group is.
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@Kamaji
Just out of curiousity,how are their sales in NY compared to the other news papers?
I am certain that not ALL NY'ers are left-wing loons,but have no idea how large that group is.
Fourth largest circulation in the country, last I heard.
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Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
POLL: 74.3% of Americans say Bragg’s indictment would have either no impact or actually help Trump’s presidential campaign
https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1640368494788091904
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Fourth largest circulation in the country, last I heard.
@Cyber Liberty
Thanks,that's good to know.
Seems NYC isn't the leftist cess-pool we have been led to believe it is.
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So there was a tranny shooting in the south... do you guys notice how it conveniently pushed this out of the news? Not saying it was a conspiracy, but it's so odd how the news cycle works out.
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Grand jury won’t hear evidence in Trump ‘hush money’ probe for rest of week: sources
By Ben Feuerherd and Larry Celona
March 28, 2023
A Manhattan grand jury won’t consider evidence against former President Donald Trump in the Stormy Daniels “hush money” case again this week, The Post has learned.
The move means a potential indictment of the ex-president can’t be handed up before next week at the earliest.
The panel is scheduled to reconvene Thursday but the Trump case won’t be on the agenda, a source familiar with the matter said Tuesday.
This is a developing story. Check back for updates.
Source: https://nypost.com/2023/03/28/grand-jury-wont-hear-evidence-in-trump-hush-money-probe-for-rest-of-week-source/
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Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
POLL: 74.3% of Americans say Bragg’s indictment would have either no impact or actually help Trump’s presidential campaign
https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1640368494788091904
You need to change your avatar to pom-poms. happy77 @Right_in_Virginia
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You need to change your avatar to pom-poms. happy77 @Right_in_Virginia
You need to grow a pair and get a life happy77 @mrpotatohead
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You need to change your avatar to pom-poms. happy77 @Right_in_Virginia
She is correct. An indictment for this gets him more votes.
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Grand jury won’t hear evidence in Trump ‘hush money’ probe for rest of week: sources
By Ben Feuerherd and Larry Celona
March 28, 2023
A Manhattan grand jury won’t consider evidence against former President Donald Trump in the Stormy Daniels “hush money” case again this week, The Post has learned.
The move means a potential indictment of the ex-president can’t be handed up before next week at the earliest.
The panel is scheduled to reconvene Thursday but the Trump case won’t be on the agenda, a source familiar with the matter said Tuesday.
This is a developing story. Check back for updates.
Source: https://nypost.com/2023/03/28/grand-jury-wont-hear-evidence-in-trump-hush-money-probe-for-rest-of-week-source/
@Kamaji
Just out or curiousity,is ANYONE being paid or being paid extra SOLELY because they "work" on that "investigation" and "prosecution"?
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She is correct. An indictment for this gets him more votes.
Possibly... But waaaaay short of the votes needed to win a general election. He's just not liked by many.
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This maybe a ploy to distract Trump's supporters and secretly indict him....just throwing that out there..
@mystery-ak
I think a secret Trump indictment is maybe the last thing the Dims want. I think they want ALL the publicity they can get out of it in order to try to damage "Rude Orange Man".
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“Tremendous Amount of Danger”: Secret Service Recommends Virtual Arraignment of Trump
Mark Steffen
Huh? How can it be legal for NY authorities to go into Florida to arrest a resident of Florida?
Sources speaking with Fox News said the meeting, held at NYPD headquarters on Monday, encompassed an all-hands-on-deck effort required to execute the first criminal arrest of a president in the nation’s history. Should a physical arrest be needed, the Secret Service would take the lead.
Since when is such a thing the responsibility of the Secret Service? Somebody correct me if I am wrong,but isn't their job protecting the CURRENT President as well as living former presidents?
HOW is arresting a former President "protecting" him?
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@mystery-ak
White House Secret Service reportedly recommended that New York state authorities pursue a virtual arrest of President Donald Trump in a pending case by the Manhattan district attorney, citing a “tremendous amount of danger” by attempting a physical arrest at his residence in Florida.
BTW,IF the SS agrees to do this and gets away with it,Bubba and Bubbette! had better be VERY scared!
@mystery-ak
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Just Breaking
https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1641554460743794688
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Felony indictment...
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Bring it on, bitch!
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
BREAKING: President Trump has just been indicted.
5:31 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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https://twitter.com/BloombergTV/status/1641555345171525640
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BREAKING: President Trump INDICTED by NYC grand jury
The felony indictment was filed under seal by the Manhattan district attorney’s office, and is set to be announced in the coming days.
Hannah Nightingale
Washington DC
Mar 30, 2023 1 minute read
On Thursday evening, a Manhattan grand jury voted to indict former President Donald Trump in connection to alleged payouts made to porn star Stormy Daniels.
The felony indictment was filed under seal by the Manhattan district attorney’s office, and is set to be announced in the coming days, four sources familiar with the matter told the New York Times.
At that point, prosecutors working under District Attorney Alvin Bragg will have asked for Trump’s surrender and to face arraignment for the currently unclear charges.
This is a breaking story and will be updated.
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-president-trump-indicted-by-nyc-grand-jury?utm_campaign=64483
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Shit just got real.
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Greg Price
@greg_price11
The Manhattan Grand Jury has voted to indict President Trump.
What a joke.
Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump in New York: Live Updates
Mr. Trump will be the first former president to face criminal charges. The precise charges are not yet known, but the case is focused on a hush-money payment to a porn star during his 2016 campaign.[/
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/03/30/nyregion/trump-indictment-news#the-unprecedented-case-against-trump-will-have-wide-ranging-implications
5:28 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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And the shit storm begins.....
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Shit just got real.
Yep... But not really. He will beat it.
But brace yourself, because they will get the perp walk. It's surely coming.
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BREAKING: Donald Trump Indicted By New York Grand Jury
Breaking 911, Mar 30, 2023
Former President Donald Trump has been indicted for his alleged involvement in hush money payments made to adult film actress Stormy Daniels, according to The New York Times.
The indictment was handed down by a federal grand jury in New York, which has been investigating the matter for several years.
According to the indictment, Trump directed his former attorney Michael Cohen to make payments to Daniels in order to keep her from publicly discussing an alleged affair she had with Trump in 2006. Cohen has already pleaded guilty to charges related to the payments, and has implicated Trump in the scheme.
If convicted, Trump could face significant fines and possibly even jail time.
Trump has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing in the matter, and has called the investigation a politically motivated witch hunt.
This is a breaking news update.
https://breaking911.com/breaking-donald-trump-indicted-by-new-york-grand-jury/
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And the shit storm begins.....
Well it will take the tranny killer out of news cycle. For now anyway.... till the next copy cat attacks a school.
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Greg Price
@greg_price11
This is what is known as an actual threat to democracy. A politically motivated prosecutor is weaponizing his office to go after the guy winning in the 2024 polls. This is what Putin does to his opponents but the America libs want looks a lot like Russia they claim to despise.
5:42 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
Outrageous.
5:48 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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Greg Price
@greg_price11
The Manhattan Grand Jury has voted to indict President Trump.
What a joke.
5:28 PM · Mar 30, 2023
This actually shocks me....
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Yep... But not really. He will beat it.
But brace yourself, because they will get the perp walk. It's surely coming.
Uncharted territory for procedure on said perp walk.
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Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
Outrageous.
5:48 PM · Mar 30, 2023
Kevin/ Jim.....
Grow some balls. ........
Subpeona his ass to congress with pending contempt charges if he refuses this time.
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Alex Bruesewitz
@alexbruesewitz
The only reason they’re coming after Trump is because he fights for you!!
He is the only candidate the Swamp fears!
TRUMP 2024!
5:47 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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Kevin/ Jim.....
Grow some balls. ........
Subpeona his ass to congress with pending contempt charges if he refuses this time.
Agree!
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Uncharted territory for procedure on said perp walk.
Trump should totally ignore it and make them come and get him.
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I hope Tangerine Mussolini's lawyers got paid upfront, in cash. They're going to be very busy for the rest of this year.
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Yep... But not really. He will beat it.
But brace yourself, because they will get the perp walk. It's surely coming.
Honestly I didn't think that they would indict him. The leftists/marxists want to ensure he doesn't run. So, perhaps jail time is on the horizon?
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Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
Did you really think they would just let you take your country back
5:49 PM · Mar 30, 202
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It is what we already knew. We are a Banana Republic.
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Yep... But not really. He will beat it.
But brace yourself, because they will get the perp walk. It's surely coming.
Most legal scholars on the left and right agree Bragg’s case is weak
But they got something more valuable to them than a conviction and that’s perception
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Yep... But not really. He will beat it.
In Manhattan? Not sure why you think so.
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What I immediately notice:
Trump indictment is wall to wall on all major networks.
Jacob Chansley release completely ignored by the same networks
Any questions?
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It is what we already knew. We are a Banana Republic.
Exactly!!!
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It is what we already knew. We are a Banana Republic.
The very first time in American history that a former President has been charged; perhaps that is why I didn't think it would come to this.
God help America. Prayers up for President Trump!!
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Trump should totally ignore it and make them come and get him.
I agree.
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It is what we already knew. We are a Banana Republic.
:yowsa: pointing-up
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In Manhattan? Not sure why you think so.
Brett Baier said they picked a good place for him to be tried.... :smokin:
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Big fan of Tucker, but until he comes clean on why he wimped out on the unreleased J6 film coverage, I got to wonder about side agendas.
Guessing Tucker wanted to keep his job.
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Wonder how big a buffer Trump's supporters will put around MarLago if Bragg tries to extradite.
I bet they don't get within a half a mile.
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I am absolutely disgusted, sickened and realize more than ever that this Republic is quickly crumbling.
FLASHBACK: TRUMP REP, FORMER PORN STAR DENY ‘HUSH MONEY’ CLAIMS
"I recently became aware that certain news outlets are alleging that I had a sexual and/or romantic affair with Donald Trump many, many, many years ago. I am stating with complete clarity that this is absolutely false," Daniels wrote. "My involvement with Donald Trump was limited to a few public appearances and nothing more."
Daniels wrote in the letter that when she met Trump, he was "gracious, professional and a complete gentleman to me and EVERYONE in my presence."
"Rumors that I have received hush money from Donald Trump are completely false," the letter read. "If indeed I did have a relationship with Donald Trump, trust me, you wouldn’t be reading about it in the news, you would be reading about it in my book. But the fact of the matter is, these stories are not true."
But in March 2018, Daniels changed her story. During an interview with CBS News’ "60 Minutes," Daniels claimed she had a one-time, unprotected sexual encounter with Trump...........
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-indicted-manhattan-da-probe-stormy-daniels-hush-money-payment
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What is the crime? Is he being accused of using campaign funds? Otherwise, if he used his own money, wouldn’t that be just between the woman and himself?
I have a sis that’s a lawyer in Florida but she’s in Argentina now so I haven’t been able to ask her
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Wonder how big a buffer Trump's supporters will put around MarLago if Bragg tries to extradite.
I bet they don't get within a half a mile.
Mr Trump - who lives in Florida - will be required to appear in New York City for his formal arrest and first hearing in court.
He faces the prospect of having his fingerprints recorded and his mugshot taken, like all defendants in criminal cases.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65132553
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Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
BREAKING: Wine mom party vibes and cheering breaking out in the White House, especially KJP, per WH staffer
6:04 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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Big fan of Tucker, but until he comes clean on why he wimped out on the unreleased J6 film coverage, I got to wonder about side agendas.
Tucker is responsible for this
‘QAnon Shaman’ released from prison following airing of J6 exculpatory footage
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,495266.0.html
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Yep... But not really. He will beat it.
As long as Trump's attorney curates his next internet posting, he will be acquitted of any felony charges.
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What is the crime? Is he being accused of using campaign funds? Otherwise, if he used his own money, wouldn’t that be just between the woman and himself?
I have a sis that’s a lawyer in Florida but she’s in Argentina now so I haven’t been able to ask her
Crime or no crime, he has been indicted. Just like there was never any valid reason to impeach him.
Quite honestly, I now fear for his life.
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Quite honestly, I now fear for his life.
I don't. Even the idiotic dims don't want 1861.
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https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1641566861899837441
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Most legal scholars on the left and right agree Bragg’s case is weak
But they got something more valuable to them than a conviction and that’s perception
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"If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things through narrow chinks of his cavern". William Blake
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https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1641566861899837441
It's been a while since I agreed with Trump.
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I don't. Even the idiotic dims don't want 1861.
Plus, they got what they needed
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Tucker is responsible for this
‘QAnon Shaman’ released from prison following airing of J6 exculpatory footage
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,495266.0.html
And THAT had to be taken out of the 'NEWS" immediately! Hence Trump is indicted.
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And THAT had to be taken out of the 'NEWS" immediately! Hence Trump is indicted.
Add Trannys Gone Wild to that.
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Rich Lowry
@RichLowry
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It’s like Trump at 50% in the polls isn’t enough—they want him at 60%
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Add Trannys Gone Wild to that.
:yowsa:
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https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1641566702742945792
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Honestly I didn't think that they would indict him. The leftists/marxists want to ensure he doesn't run. So, perhaps jail time is on the horizon?
I knew it was gonna come sooner or later, because the whole left, like Tumpy, are altogether absorbed by media drama and waggin tongues. So SURE they are gonna make the play, because of Tumpy doing the perp walk in front of cameras. SUCH A VICTORY for them, when it means absolutely nothing.
As to the rest - No, he will beat it. But I would not be surprised if they DeLay him... tie him up in court so he can't run... They did that to DeLay for years and cut his career right off.
But he will beat it. the charge is bogus. Just like it was for DeLay. The question is if it has enough leg to keep him off the trail. He has major dough, (unlike DeLay), so that makes him harder to sew up.
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I don't think banana republic best describes "us" anymore, as "we" have just crossed the Rubicon.
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Crime or no crime, he has been indicted. Just like there was never any valid reason to impeach him.
Quite honestly, I now fear for his life.
How many times has Netanyahu been indicted?
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Rep Andy Biggs
@RepAndyBiggsAZ
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President Donald J. Trump has just been indicted by an extremist NY District Attorney.
No president of the United States has ever been criminally indicted.
Trump Derangement Syndrome has infiltrated our judicial system
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I hope the voting record of the jurors voting aye on indictment gets published, if even via FOIA.
And then a rash of disbarments ensues.
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https://twitter.com/RealMattCouch/status/1641564303735115776
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as "we" have just crossed the Rubicon.
And right into the River Styx......
I am trying as hard as I can figuring out this doesn't flame out of control.
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https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1641569928401629184
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And right into the River Styx......
I am trying as hard as I can figuring out this doesn't flame out of control.
Same.
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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸
@RepMTG
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59s
Impeach Biden.
He’s given us every reason and the family banking records and more are giving us receipts.
But now that the gloves are off..
Prosecute any and all crimes.
Enough of this witch hunt bullshit.
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And right into the River Styx......
I am trying as hard as I can figuring out this doesn't flame out of control.
If this happened to someone on the left, you'd see rioting. I don't expect his supporters to rise up. Those still incarcerated for J6 have been made an example of.
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If this happened to someone on the left, you'd see rioting. I don't expect his supporters to rise up. Those still incarcerated for J6 have been made an example of.
Heck we don't even have to riot, and they'll say we're 'rioting'.
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Crime or no crime, he has been indicted. Just like there was never any valid reason to impeach him.
Quite honestly, I now fear for his life.
The irony of a pro-criminal, Soros-bought DA increasing a misdemeanor to a felony in bringing an indictment for a past-statute-of-limitations allegation is beyond stunning. But the dems should know this: The precedent has been set. Biden had better plan to lawyer up when his time comes to a close.
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How many times has Netanyahu been indicted?
Different country. Israel indicts anyone. The only PM to be indcted, convicted and serve a prison term was Ehud Olmert, leader of the Kamima (left of center) Party. :laugh:
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...."In his most explicit comments yet, in a late-night post on his Truth Social account on 23 March, he suggested “death and destruction” awaited the US if he is criminally prosecuted....................
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-chilling-warning-of-what-will-happen-after-his-indictment/ar-AA19hXOo?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=13e33d33dc8e4a51b8f03a2177fe24cf&ei=13
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...."In his most explicit comments yet, in a late-night post on his Truth Social account on 23 March, he suggested “death and destruction” awaited the US if he is criminally prosecuted....................
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-chilling-warning-of-what-will-happen-after-his-indictment/ar-AA19hXOo?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=13e33d33dc8e4a51b8f03a2177fe24cf&ei=13
This is why lawyers will tell their clients to shut up. I have a hunch that Trump’s suggestion here was or will be used against him
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https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1641570269180448768
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The irony of a pro-criminal, Soros-bought DA increasing a misdemeanor to a felony in bringing an indictment for a past-statute-of-limitations allegation is beyond stunning. But the dems should know this: The precedent has been set. Biden had better plan to lawyer up when his time comes to a close.
Brandon will never be charged. Never. One set of rules for the leftists and one set of rules for the right. Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc., are above the law and we have a deeply corrupt DOJ.
Besides, Brandon is up in years and quite demented. Do you really think there's a chance he'll be indicated for anything?? Not. going. to. happen.
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If this happened to someone on the left, you'd see rioting. I don't expect his supporters to rise up. Those still incarcerated for J6 have been made an example of.
Dont ask me why, but I am guessing Trump's supporters will create a human blockade prventing any kind of Bragg/DeSantis extradition.
And as far as Trump himself, I just don't think surrendering adds anything to his strategy. A perp walk and mug shot only becomes a tool for the dims in '24. But Trump does have a flair for the dramatic, so no telling what is going on through his mind right now.
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My prediction of Trump's mug shot
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Dont ask me why, but I am guessing Trump's supporters will create a human blockade prventing any kind of Bragg/DeSantis extradition.
And as far as Trump himself, I just don't think surrendering adds anything to his strategy. A perp walk and mug shot only becomes a tool for the dims in '24. But Trump does have a flair for the dramatic, so no telling what is going on through his mind right now.
I'd be surprised. I don't expect Trump supporters to rise up. It has been reported that Trump himself has warned of what would happen if he faces criminal charges, but IMHO I think he's going to get a quick reality check.
Maybe an @corbe poll is on the horizon
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It is kinda funny a Reality TV star is indicted so he will be a reality TV star. You can't make this shit up.
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I'd be surprised. I don't expect Trump supporters to rise up. It has been reported that Trump himself has warned of what would happen if he faces criminal charges, but IMHO I think he's going to get a quick reality check.
Maybe an @corbe poll is on the horizon
In NYC? All eight of them?
Yeah... nah... It is way whacko liberal NYC... They'll be more likely to declare a holiday and dance in the streets.
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Ryan Fournier
@RyanAFournier
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38m
BREAKING: White House employees are partying and enjoying this Trump indictment.
Per WH sources.
They want to play this game - we will come for Joe and his son when they leave office. Just wait.
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Ali Velshi
@AliVelshi
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Trump Attorney Joe Tacopina tells NBC News that the former President is expected to surrender to the Manhattan DA’s office early next week.
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https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1641571667905265666
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I'd be surprised. I don't expect Trump supporters to rise up. It has been reported that Trump himself has warned of what would happen if he faces criminal charges, but IMHO I think he's going to get a quick reality check.
Maybe an @corbe poll is on the horizon
Thanks for the tip @libertybele
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,495273.0.html (https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,495273.0.html)
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And the shit storm begins.....
@catfish1957
No,it continues. This has nothing to do with justice,and everything to do with the upcoming Presidential election.
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Fox reports from a DeSantis statement that he will not assist in an extradiction.
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@catfish1957
No,it continues. This has nothing to do with justice,and everything to do with the upcoming Presidential election.
Of course it has everything to do with the election -- they will stop him at all costs from running again. He would have been wise to wait till the very last minute to announce he was running.
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Yep... But not really. He will beat it.
@roamer_1
Yeah,but that is irrelevant. The purpose it to further harm his chances of being elected. This is purely a political hit.
The DNC is afraid of him,so they are trying to destroy him before the elections even begin.
But brace yourself, because they will get the perp walk. It's surely coming.
That is something you can safely bet on.
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Man, this pisses me off.
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TRUMP INDICTMENT THREADS ARE IN SCANDAL FORUM
Trump indicted after Manhattan DA probe for hush money payments
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@catfish1957
No,it continues. This has nothing to do with justice,and everything to do with the upcoming Presidential election.
Nope...
This is a huge and a historic escalation.
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Uncharted territory for procedure on said perp walk.
@Wingnut
Indicting a former president is pretty much uncharted territory,too.
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I agree with the few posters here, that he'll sleaze his way out of this just like he sleazed his way into this. With payoffs and legal fees this will cost him >$1M. Pretty expensive tail if you ask me.
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Trump should totally ignore it and make them come and get him.
@mrpotatohead
I agree on moral principles,but on political principles,he should call a press conference and announce he is flying to NYC to surrender because he is not guilty and has nothing to fear from a purely political witchhunt.
This could even end up working out in his favor.
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I agree with the few posters here, that he'll sleaze his way out of this just like he sleazed his way into this. With payoffs and legal fees this will cost him >$1M. Pretty expensive tail if you ask me.
Not in NYC..btw there are 3 more Grand Juries with Trump cases...
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What I immediately notice:
Trump indictment is wall to wall on all major networks.
Jacob Chansley release completely ignored by the same networks
Any questions?
@Bigun
Who is Jacob Chansley?
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Apparently the jurors believed this POS....so if you think Trump will walk in NYC think again
Michael Cohen: Trump’s Indictment Just the Beginning — ‘Accountably Matters’
Michael Cohen, a former personal attorney for Donald Trump, said Thursday on MSNBC’s “Deadline” that the reports former President Donald Trump will be indicted in the Manhattan district attorney’s criminal probe into a 2016 hush money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels meant “accountably matters.”
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/03/30/michael-cohen-trumps-indictment-just-the-beginning-accountably-matters/
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@Bigun
Who is Jacob Chansley?
Yeah, I don’t know who that is either
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Paula Reid
@PaulaReidCNN
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John Miller tells @ErinBurnett
that his sources say trump charges are 34 counts related to falsifying business records.
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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The case was DOA until they needed a distraction from Nashville and the trans militants
And, poof, just like that, Alvin found the votes to indict Trump
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https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1641566702742945792
@mystery-ak
Going purely by the looks on their faces,Boy Jorge and Obomber want to swap spit.
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David Marcus
@BlueBoxDave
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The irony here is that Alvin Bragg doesn’t prosecute anyone who shoots people on 5th Avenue.
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@Bigun
Who is Jacob Chansley?
The J6 Capitol Protest Shaman (Viking Guy)
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@Bigun
Who is Jacob Chansley?
@sneakypete
https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1230733976/photo/jacob-anthony-angeli-chansley-known-as-the-qanon-shaman-is-seen-at-the-capital-riots-on.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=3oGDVoP1Jivkuexz1zmibeqtqarNuhUSO7EtYtHQIMc=
There is a reason why you don't know his name.
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Ryan Fournier
@RyanAFournier
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38m
BREAKING: White House employees are partying and enjoying this Trump indictment.
Per WH sources.
They want to play this game - we will come for Joe and his son when they leave office. Just wait.
@mystery-ak
You are assuming there will still be public elections if the DNC manages to steal the WH again come the next election.
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Yeah, I don’t know who that is either
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‘Q Anon Shaman’ Gets Early Release from Prison Weeks After Tucker Carlson Airs J6 Footage
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/03/30/q-anon-shaman-jacob-chansley-gets-early-release-from-prison-weeks-after-tucker-carlson-airs-j6-footage/
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https://twitter.com/alx/status/1641583985947193344
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The J6 Capitol Protest Shaman (Viking Guy)
@catfish1957
Thanks,NOW I know him.
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Fox reports from a DeSantis statement that he will not assist in an extradiction.
And he shouldn't
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@sneakypete
https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1230733976/photo/jacob-anthony-angeli-chansley-known-as-the-qanon-shaman-is-seen-at-the-capital-riots-on.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=3oGDVoP1Jivkuexz1zmibeqtqarNuhUSO7EtYtHQIMc=
There is a reason why you don't know his name.
@Bigun
Thanks!
I suspect the reason his name isn't reported often is the left doesn't want voters to be able to identify with him as an American,just like them. They want to make him out to be some sort of VooDoo shaman.
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@Bigun
Thanks!
I suspect the reason his name isn't reported often is the left doesn't want voters to be able to identify with him as an American,just like them. They want to make him out to be some sort of VooDoo shaman.
:yowsa: Exactly! He is a Navy veteran.
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https://twitter.com/alx/status/1641583985947193344
@mystery-ak
And just like that,Trump just gained tens of thousands of votes in the snap of a finger. He went from being a Uber Rich Billionaire the left scorned and demonized, to being a victim of a political persecution.
Is there ANYBODY still wondering why I call them "Dims"?
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And he shouldn't
It's gonna get reeeeeallly interesting if Chubby Bragg gets Merrick Garland to help intervene.
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@Wingnut
Indicting a former president is pretty much uncharted territory,too.
I think that is what I said. Lighten up. We are all with you trumpers on this one.
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You guys must not follow the Jan 6th Cat..I post updates almost daily there...
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@mystery-ak
And just like that,Trump just gained tens of thousands of votes in the snap of a finger. He went from being a Uber Rich Billionaire the left scorned and demonized, to being a victim of a political persecution.
Is there ANYBODY still wondering why I call them "Dims"?
Indicated? Nothing like a cofeve typo moment among friends. :silly:
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Indicated? Nothing like a cofeve typo moment among friends. :silly:
@catfish1957
Huh?
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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1641580390191095811
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@mystery-ak
And just like that,Trump just gained tens of thousands of votes in the snap of a finger. He went from being a Uber Rich Billionaire the left scorned and demonized, to being a victim of a political persecution.
Is there ANYBODY still wondering why I call them "Dims"?
Which will be overwhelmed by many thousands of phony votes in just the right places. Exactly as they were in 2020
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Indicated? Nothing like a cofeve typo moment among friends. :silly:
Ummm....It is covfefe...
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@catfish1957
Huh?
Read Trump's statement.....
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I think that is what I said. Lighten up. We are all with you trumpers on this one.
His attorneys need to advise him to stop posting on his TruthSocial. Let his lawyers go before the microphone. That’s what they get paid to do.
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Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
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7:41 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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https://twitter.com/MsAvaArmstrong/status/1641579429733203968
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… … We are all with you trumpers on this one.
Yes
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Ummm....It is covfefe...
Nawww.... there's 2 f's in Covfefe?
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https://twitter.com/TheLeoTerrell/status/1641590105956835328
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Most legal scholars on the left and right agree Bragg’s case is weak
But they got something more valuable to them than a conviction and that’s perception
Exactly.
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Sarah Huckabee Sanders
@SarahHuckabee
Americans should stand united in opposition to the Democrats’ politicization of our justice system and refusal to lock up violent criminals in favor of prosecuting their political opponents. D.A. Bragg should resign for his abuse of power and targeting of Donald Trump.
6:16 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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If I hear *No One Is above The Law* one more time.... 9999hair out0000
....unless your name is Clinton, Clinton, Obama or Biden
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https://twitter.com/TheLeoTerrell/status/1641590105956835328
:yowsa: Entirely true!
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From this point forward, republicans need to start laying the groundwork to have Biden indicted for bribery and corruption as soon as he leaves office.
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I think that is what I said. Lighten up. We are all with you trumpers on this one.
Agree...
We conservatives can have family squabbles, but today's developments mean we circle the wagons.......
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If I hear *No One Is above The Law* one more time.... 9999hair out0000
....unless your name is Clinton, Clinton, Obama or Biden
Whenever anybody says nobody is above the law what they mean “anybody who I politically opposes not above the law”
And yes, nobody is above law, or should be. But if you murder somebody in New York City, according to Alvin Bragg, you are above the law
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From this point forward, republicans need to start laying the groundwork to have Biden indicted for bribery and corruption as soon as he leaves office.
Biden has one advantage that Trump doesn’t have. A very sympathetic press
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Which will be overwhelmed by many thousands of phony votes in just the right places. Exactly as they were in 2020
@Bigun
Well,THAT was going to happen anyhow.
Not to mention all the illegal alien votes from the illegals the Dims imported into America and "retired in place" in public housing.
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Biden has one advantage that Trump doesn’t have. A very sympathetic press
Which is why we have to start now to build the groundwork.
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His attorneys need to advise him to stop posting on his TruthSocial. Let his lawyers go before the microphone. That’s what they get paid to do.
@LMAO
AMEN!
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Josh Hawley
@HawleyMO
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3m
They will regret this
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Biden has one advantage that Trump doesn’t have. A very sympathetic press
@LMAO
Well,his strongest defense is the truth,and the truth is in addition to being a traitor and thief by nature,he is also senile,and you can bet your bippy his lawyers will use that to get the charges dropped if he is ever indicted. His criminal offsprung may have to flee America to avoid arrest,though.
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Ron DeSantis
@GovRonDeSantis
The weaponization of the legal system to advance a political agenda turns the rule of law on its head.
It is un-American.
The Soros-backed Manhattan District Attorney has consistently bent the law to downgrade felonies and to excuse criminal misconduct. Yet, now he is stretching the law to target a political opponent.
Florida will not assist in an extradition request given the questionable circumstances at issue with this Soros-backed Manhattan prosecutor and his political agenda.
5:55 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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Ron DeSantis
@GovRonDeSantis
The weaponization of the legal system to advance a political agenda turns the rule of law on its head.
It is un-American.
The Soros-backed Manhattan District Attorney has consistently bent the law to downgrade felonies and to excuse criminal misconduct. Yet, now he is stretching the law to target a political opponent.
Florida will not assist in an extradition request given the questionable circumstances at issue with this Soros-backed Manhattan prosecutor and his political agenda.
5:55 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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Sweet!!!
This means that unless Trump rolls over and comes to NY to surrender voluntarily, that they will have to proceed via federal court to enforce any extradition request.
The request will be enforced, of course, but at least Florida will not be complicit in this kangaroo court.
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Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
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1h
We all know that the RINOs are secretly happy about the indictment, but the fascist left won't stop with Trump. They're power-hungry & will do anything to crush their political opponents. If we're ever going to save our country, the entire GOP needs to finally figure that out.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/alx/status/1641585129075138560
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@LMAO
His criminal offsprung may have to flee America to avoid arrest,though.
A few months ago my wife and I were talking about this and I kind of suggested that if this get too real for little Hunter, the Biden administration would probably try to ship him off somewhere to hide
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Rep. Paul Gosar, DDS
@RepGosar
The Regime occupying our country and systematically killing America is most afraid of President Donald J. Trump. Period.
He's our guy.
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6:09 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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A few months ago my wife and I were talking about this and I kind of suggested that if this get too real for little Hunter, the Biden administration would probably try to ship him off somewhere to hide
@LMAO
It will be impossible to hide that clown.
They will probably ship him off to someplace with no extradition treaty with the US,and he will wallow in his money there and laugh at us.
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Rep. Paul Gosar, DDS
@RepGosar
The Regime occupying our country and systematically killing America is most afraid of President Donald J. Trump. Period.
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6:09 PM · Mar 30, 2023
@Right_in_Virginia
That's because he can't be bought because he is already wealthy,and NOTHING is more important to him that going down in the history books as "The President that saved America".
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Kevin McCarthy
@SpeakerMcCarthy
Alvin Bragg has irreparably damaged our country in an attempt to interfere in our Presidential election.
As he routinely frees violent criminals to terrorize the public, he weaponized our sacred system of justice against President Donald Trump.
The American people will not tolerate this injustice, and the House of Representatives will hold Alvin Bragg and his unprecedented abuse of power to account.
6:51 PM · Mar 30, 2023
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1641591014329823232
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A Grand Jury indictment is not a conviction. A Grand Jury only needs 12 of the 23 jurors to believe there was probable cause. A conviction needs a predominant of the evidence. But the dems don't really care one way or another. They just need to scare away the swing voters from voting for Trump if the nominee. I just don't see Republicans winning in 2024, unless Trump voluntarily withdraws and fully endorses DeSantis or whoever else is next in line. But that's not happening.
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I agree on moral principles,but on political principles,he should call a press conference and announce he is flying to NYC to surrender because he is not guilty and has nothing to fear from a purely political witchhunt.
This could even end up working out in his favor.
@sneakypete
Doubtful.
He will play it, just like they are playing it... He will whine and cry, and throw dirt in the air, because that's his shtick...
But those who would be sympathetic enough to have an effect are mostly those who are already in his camp, feeding on the drama.
I think most otfhers are either against him and feeding on the drama... or numb to the whole damn drama thing (count me in that group) and will just roll their eyes.
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That's because he can't be bought because he is already wealthy,and NOTHING is more important to him that going down in the history books as "The President that saved America".
@sneakypete
Nah. If he could truly do anything to em he'd have committed Arkancide a long time ago.
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"Keep Fighting, Mr. President.". (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/MAGAIncWarRoom/status/1641578408080441345
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@sneakypete
Doubtful.
He will play it, just like they are playing it... He will whine and cry, and throw dirt in the air, because that's his shtick...
But those who would be sympathetic enough to have an effect are mostly those who are already in his camp, feeding on the drama.
I think most otfhers are either against him and feeding on the drama... or numb to the whole damn drama thing (count me in that group) and will just roll their eyes.
We are highly aligned on our sentiment about Trump, but this development is so different, precedent setting , and dangerous, I think we have to put those differences aside, at least briefly and view today's events as a left vs. right ideological battle royal. If we lose this one, there will be no stoppping the left from imprisoning any of us for our views that counter the radical left.
And when you list the recent DOJ initiatives toward J6 protests, Tliabi, unwoke parents at PTA meeting, etc. I don't think this is over dramatization.
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Yeah,but that is irrelevant. The purpose it to further harm his chances of being elected. This is purely a political hit.
Of course it is, @sneakypete
The DNC is afraid of him,so they are trying to destroy him before the elections even begin.
Nah, nothing so dire. This is political checkers... Happens all the time. The difference is that ex-presidents generally retain a sort of immunity because of the honor of the office.
That is the escalation.
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@sneakypete
Doubtful.
He will play it, just like they are playing it... He will whine and cry, and throw dirt in the air, because that's his shtick...
But those who would be sympathetic enough to have an effect are mostly those who are already in his camp, feeding on the drama.
I think most otfhers are either against him and feeding on the drama... or numb to the whole damn drama thing (count me in that group) and will just roll their eyes.
Except -- he is a past president and we will see if he gets off or possible jail time preventing him from running again. That's beyond drama. Just like the impeachments; bogus charges. This IMO is leftists' rearing their evilness.
Like Trump or not he received over 80,000,000 votes. So, those supporters are going to be denied their candidate from running because of political maneuvering? That = a Banana Republic @roamer_1
This isn't about justice, this is about preventing a past president who made some headway in a better direction from running again.
Perhaps you see this as me being sympathetic towards Trump; I am concerned about the continued double standards and those who lean anywhere near conservative being punished in one way or another.
Have I changed my mind about voting for him?? No. However, the leftists are continuing to crumble our Republic and this is part of it.
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And when you list the recent DOJ initiatives toward J6 protests, Tliabi, unwoke parents at PTA meeting, etc. I don't think this is over dramatization.
And that same DOJ let’s off people who harass Supreme Court justices, uses armed agent to arrest a pro-life protester that was already cleared, ignore Hunter Biden, and these woke DA’s that let some of the most violent criminals back out on the streets
Alvin Bragg wouldn’t look so hypocritical on this if he were a no nonsense, law and order prosecutor
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We are highly aligned on our sentiment about Trump, but this development is so different, precedent setting , and dangerous, I think we have to put those differences aside, at least briefly and view today's events as a left vs. right ideological battle royal. If we lose this one, there will be no stoppping the left from imprisoning any of us for our views that counter the radical left.
And when you list the recent DOJ initiatives toward J6 protests, Tliabi, unwoke parents at PTA meeting, etc. I don't think this is over dramatization.
You are absolutely 100% correct!!! Like Trump has stated, they aren't just coming after him, they are coming after us. That's not being dramatic, that's being truthful.
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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Bragg told Jordan in writing there was a 'false expectation' that Trump would be indicted
What changed, Alvin?
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Except -- he is a past president and we will see if he gets off or possible jail time preventing him from running again. That's beyond drama. Just like the impeachments; bogus charges. This IMO is leftists' rearing their evilness.
Like Trump or not he received over 80,000,000 votes. So, those supporters are going to be denied their candidate from running because of political maneuvering? That = a Banana Republic @roamer_1
This isn't about justice, this is about preventing a past president who made some headway in a better direction from running again.
Perhaps you see this as me being sympathetic towards Trump; I am concerned about the continued double standards and those who lean anywhere near conservative being punished in one way or another.
Have I changed my mind about voting for him?? No. However, the leftists are continuing to crumble our Republic and this is part of it.
What I bolded nails it. I am not a Trumper, but I am very sympathetic to the fact that it seems like he, and many of those people who support him or worked for him, get full applications of the law that others get away with
Think about what Roger Stone got for lying to Congress versus Anthony Fauci
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We are highly aligned on our sentiment about Trump, but this development is so different, precedent setting , and dangerous, I think we have to put those differences aside, at least briefly and view today's events as a left vs. right ideological battle royal. If we lose this one, there will be no stoppping the left from imprisoning any of us for our views that counter the radical left.
And when you list the recent DOJ initiatives toward J6 protests, Tliabi, unwoke parents at PTA meeting, etc. I don't think this is over dramatization.
Rejected, with all due respect... I hear you and all... but the way to solve this is not sympathy for the big government buffoon. All that does is feed into the drama and drive it bigger, and the result, even if you win is voting *FOR* bigger government, which is all in the wrong direction.
The way to FIX it is to vote in law and order people, and creating a real bulwark against this kind of thing... Again as always, a big 'C' Conservative Republican party or another party, equally assembled is the cure.
Or Civil War II is in the wings.
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https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1641601534554411009
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And that same DOJ let’s off people who harass Supreme Court justices, uses armed agent to arrest a pro-life protester that was already cleared, ignore Hunter Biden, and these woke DA’s that let some of the most violent criminals back out on the streets
Alvin Bragg wouldn’t look so hypocritical on this if he were a no nonsense, law and order prosecutor
It doesn't matter if Bragg is hypocritical. So what? He's indicting a past president. We should all be realizing that the left WILL not stop they are coming after anyone who doesn't agree with their agenda.
The 2nd amendment IS what is standing in the way of them rounding us up and carting us away. What's to stop them from knocking on doors and 'extracting' those that lean just a little too conservative?? What's to stop them from preventing conservatives from voting?
They stole an election. SCOTUS looked the other way. Think about what that means, especially now.
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I'm sorry, but after 2016, he deserves it. He deserves worse, but this at the bare minimum. To be stripped of any ability to terrorize this country ever again.
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Rejected, with all due respect... I hear you and all... but the way to solve this is not sympathy for the big government buffoon. All that does is feed into the drama and drive it bigger, and the result, even if you win is voting *FOR* bigger government, which is all in the wrong direction.
The way to FIX it is to vote in law and order people, and creating a real bulwark against this kind of thing... Again as always, a big 'C' Conservative Republican party or another party, equally assembled is the cure.
Or Civil War II is in the wings.
ummm.... @roamer_1 The time to fix and vote in law and order has passed. If you truly think about what is happening, there is NO law and order for you and I. Only for Hollywood elites, Silicon Valley, liberals, globalists, etc. They rule and we must comply or they will silence us, incarcerate us, etc.
Our border is over run, our rail system is failing, food prices, gas prices continue to soar. You are in a unique position to survive what's coming. For the majority of us, they are coming for us, one way or another.
Will there even be an election??? I believe there may no longer be any remedy at the ballot box.
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🤔 Wonder if DA Bragg remembers Durham DA Mike Nifong who withheld exculpatory DNA tests on the Duke lacrosse players. He was subsequently forced out of office, disbarred, and convicted of contempt of court…
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I just got a text from Trump asking for money..... 888mouth
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I'm sorry, but after 2016, he deserves it. He deserves worse, but this at the bare minimum. To be stripped of any ability to terrorize this country ever again.
Please explain how he terrorized this country? I've never been an avid Trump supporter, but terrorizing is not a term that I think defines him.
The left stole an election. They have indicted a past president for no crime; if he committed a crime what is it? What's to prevent them from coming after any of us that don't agree with their agenda? We have a corrupt DOJ. My governor at least honors the rule of law but there are governors that are liberal that are equally corrupt.
So do you feel all warm and fuzzy with our current judicial system? Riots? Inflicted pandemic? Defunding police?
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They began to go after him after his Escalator ride in 15, the same people Loved him prior to that. The Conservatives didn't get on board so the dems and rinos were left over to fight over the crumbs of Trump's integrity.
His highly publicized NY Lifestyle, Biographies, Reality TV Star and America still didn't get it, that's what saddens me the most.
He stepped in this $hit to begin with here. 10 years before he decided to run for President, where's the accountability?
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https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1641605160278392832
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I just got a text from Trump asking for money..... 888mouth
Singing----"So welcome to the machine"
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I'm sorry, but after 2016, he deserves it. He deserves worse, but this at the bare minimum. To be stripped of any ability to terrorize this country ever again.
That's the level of disdain and hate I have for Biden. Trump? Not a fan, but he doesn't near neet that bar of despot. And I am sure deep down, Biden is worse in your book too. I hope.
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I just got a text from Trump asking for money..... 888mouth
Obviously you're not kidding. 888mouth
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I'm sorry, but after 2016, he deserves it. He deserves worse, but this at the bare minimum. To be stripped of any ability to terrorize this country ever again.
Just WOW!!! Brother....you have lost it....
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Obviously you're not kidding. 888mouth
If this is Trump's sense of timing trying to get sympathy or money. He's not as smart as I thought.
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If this is Trump's sense of timing trying to get sympathy or money. He's not as smart as I thought.
Trump himself? Doubtful. His campaign or those saying they're with Trump more than likely.
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Would it surprise anyone if the Trump Attorneys are also celebrating tonight on the windfall?
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Trump himself? Doubtful. His campaign or those saying they're with Trump more than likely.
All in the same to me. His operatives are basically an extension of himself, and need to operate decently.
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All in the same to me. His operatives are basically an extension of himself, and need to operate decently.
In the past I have received so many requests for Trump donations; who's to say that these people are legitimate or are they merely saying that they are with the Trump campaign and pocketing money?? It's easy enough to find out who voted for him or at least who is a registered Republican and start soliciting and texting people asking for $$.
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Since the RNC is no longer paying Trump's legal fees, Elaine Chao is now shipping that $$$$ to China so her and her husband can retire softly.
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"Trump has my vote in 2024." (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/amuse/status/1641582052729389063
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I'm sorry, but after 2016, he deserves it. He deserves worse, but this at the bare minimum. To be stripped of any ability to terrorize this country ever again.
@jmyrlefuller
Did hims terrorize you?
You poor bay-bay!
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@Texas Robin was astounded today when I told her I've never been on Prozac.
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@jmyrlefuller how do you think Trump terrorized the country?
If anything some members of Congress and DOJ have threatened our Republic and trampled all over the Constitution.
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This news really does not affect me very much. It certainly does not change my view of Democrats. It does nothing to change my view of Trump, or my vote. The one thing I am not certain of is whether the Dems are doing this because they don't want Trump to be the nominee, or because they DO want Trump to be the nominee. I suspect the latter.
The Dems survived 2022 by fiddling with the GOP primaries, and I think they see that as their best option for winning.
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34 counts?
34 counts of falsification of business records, which is probably a lot of charges involving each document, each thing that was submitted, as a separate count.”
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I'm sorry, but after 2016, he deserves it. He deserves worse, but this at the bare minimum. To be stripped of any ability to terrorize this country ever again.
@jmyrlefuller
In terms of Trump "deserving" it, I agree with you. But the problem is that the weaponization/politicization of the justice system is an evil that has impact far beyond the direct impact of one narcissistic goober. You don't use the justice system as some sort of "scales balancer" to punish people for being crappy people. Because while something like that may start with Trump, it damn sure won't end with just him. Also, people in a republic are entitled to elect a guy like Trump no matter how scummy we may think he is. I don't think he should be re-elected and I'm sure as hell not voting for him again, but no representative form of government can work if odious candidates can be disqualified just because some don't like them. That would stand the entire basis of the system on its head.
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We are highly aligned on our sentiment about Trump, but this development is so different, precedent setting , and dangerous, I think we have to put those differences aside, at least briefly and view today's events as a left vs. right ideological battle royal. If we lose this one, there will be no stoppping the left from imprisoning any of us for our views that counter the radical left.
Though this does happen to be left/right, it is more fundamentally a battle between democratic principles, and totalitarian ones. That's why there are some who lean more to the left in their policy preferences have actually been siding with Republicans on these issues -- Dershowitz, Turley, Greenwald, Taibbi, etc..
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Except -- he is a past president and we will see if he gets off or possible jail time preventing him from running again. That's beyond drama. Just like the impeachments; bogus charges. This IMO is leftists' rearing their evilness.
Sure. But that's been there all along - I'll point again to what they did to DeLay in Texas, all these years ago - That to a sitting majority leader in the House.
Like Trump or not he received over 80,000,000 votes. So, those supporters are going to be denied their candidate from running because of political maneuvering? That = a Banana Republic @roamer_1
This isn't about justice, this is about preventing a past president who made some headway in a better direction from running again.
Perhaps you see this as me being sympathetic towards Trump; I am concerned about the continued double standards and those who lean anywhere near conservative being punished in one way or another.
Have I changed my mind about voting for him?? No. However, the leftists are continuing to crumble our Republic and this is part of it.
I am in large agreement with this part... Sympathetic - not so much... He did a lot of it to himself. Get everybody white-hot and not only will your enemies never forget, and come gunning for you, but those who erstwhile might have become your friends won't care to get in the way of it.
And I realize the presidential precedent. But only in that it is against a president. They took out a House leader a long time ago, so it is not anything new in tactic.
But the real thing is the solution to it. and that, as always is smaller, less powerful federal government. Vengeance is indeed a dish best served cold.
Eye on the prize. You take away the power to do these things by taking away the money, and forcing smaller government in all three houses... Not by electing a big government Republican.
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You are absolutely 100% correct!!! Like Trump has stated, they aren't just coming after him, they are coming after us. That's not being dramatic, that's being truthful.
Yes. But they always have been coming after us.
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ummm.... @roamer_1 The time to fix and vote in law and order has passed. If you truly think about what is happening, there is NO law and order for you and I. Only for Hollywood elites, Silicon Valley, liberals, globalists, etc. They rule and we must comply or they will silence us, incarcerate us, etc.
Our border is over run, our rail system is failing, food prices, gas prices continue to soar. You are in a unique position to survive what's coming. For the majority of us, they are coming for us, one way or another.
Will there even be an election??? I believe there may no longer be any remedy at the ballot box.
Well I will not agree... Things can change on a dime. Fighting for the ballot box must happen... or all that's left is the ammo box. And I will wish that upon no one. So till there is nothing for it, I will be for stopping it. But that means STOPPING IT by voting ONLY for those that will reduce the government... over and over and over... and never settling for less. It is not the Democrats that are at fault. It is the Republicans who let em.
Clean your own house FIRST. Then you can offer real opposition.
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Bookmark cause I had a party for the kid tonight (20 kids is exhausting to keep up with).... I missed all this due it. Page 8
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This news really does not affect me very much. It certainly does not change my view of Democrats. It does nothing to change my view of Trump, or my vote. The one thing I am not certain of is whether the Dems are doing this because they don't want Trump to be the nominee, or because they DO want Trump to be the nominee. I suspect the latter.
It’s the latter, almost certainly. While the republicans are distracted with yet another Trump circus, the left is free to wreak havoc on the country. Even if nothing comes of the NY case, Donald is going to be indicted on other charges which require some amount of discipline to overcome. The left will dupe conservatives into spending all of their energy defending Trump between now and Nov 2024.
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It’s the latter, almost certainly. While the republicans are distracted with yet another Trump circus, the left is free to wreak havoc on the country. Even if nothing comes of the NY case, Donald is going to be indicted on other charges which require some amount of discipline to overcome. The left will dupe conservatives into spending all of their energy defending Trump between now and Nov 2024.
And that redoubled because he is declared. Now every Republican candidate all the way down to county is summarily involved.
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All he has to say is that he did it to protect his marriage.
Now we are just waiting on the Hunter Biden indictment. Not holding my breath, just waiting.
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All he has to say is that he did it to protect his marriage.
Now we are just waiting on the Hunter Biden indictment. Not holding my breath, just waiting.
Exactly. If nobody is above the law, then Hunter Biden should be indicted as well. If he is not, well then, some people - i.e., democrats - are above the law.
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Former FBI Director James Comey Celebrates Trump Indictment: ‘Good Day’
Former FBI Director James Comey celebrated the indictment of former President Donald Trump on Thursday at the hands of Soros-funded Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/03/30/former-fbi-director-james-comey-celebrates-trump-indictment-good-day/
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Report: NYPD Tells Every Member to Show Up in Uniform Friday Morning After Trump Indictment
The New York Police Department (NYPD) told every member of its force to report in full uniform on Friday morning as a “precautionary measure” following the indictment of former President Donald Trump, the Hill reported.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/03/30/report-nypd-tells-every-member-uniform-friday-morning-trump-indictment/
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All he has to say is that he did it to protect his marriage.
Now we are just waiting on the Hunter Biden indictment. Not holding my breath, just waiting.
Lying to one's wife about cheating on her does not protect a marriage; it is an effort to protect the liar.
But I'll agree with you on the Hunter Biden issue.
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It’s the latter, almost certainly. While the republicans are distracted with yet another Trump circus, the left is free to wreak havoc on the country. Even if nothing comes of the NY case, Donald is going to be indicted on other charges which require some amount of discipline to overcome. The left will dupe conservatives into spending all of their energy defending Trump between now and Nov 2024.
@cato potatoe
Do you really not understand what this is about? Or are you knowingly giving "conservatives" the okay to jettison the rule of law when it fits the "conservative" political agenda?
Which is it?
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Lying to one's wife about cheating on her does not protect a marriage; it is an effort to protect the liar.
But I'll agree with you on the Hunter Biden issue.
No, but it does mean that the spending on the hush-money wasn't election-related and therefore not an election-law violation, which Bragg needs it to be for it to be a felony and not a time-barred misdemeanor.
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No, but it does mean that the spending on the hush-money wasn't election-related and therefore not an election-law violation, which Bragg needs it to be for it to be a felony and not a time-barred misdemeanor.
Agreed.
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"This is what we think of the #TrumpIndictment" (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/TAftermath2020/status/1641580126650654720
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@cato potatoe
Do you really not understand what this is about? Or are you knowingly giving "conservatives" the okay to jettison the rule of law when it fits the "conservative" political agenda?
Which is it?
We difer on our views of Trump, but I am troubled that we are not circling the wagons at least on the short term. Probably the biggest difference in us and our enemies in the socialist left, is they know when to put their inter-idelogical tiffs aside when in an emergency. The emergency now is unless we all colacese around the core issue of fighting the ability to weaponize criminality based on where on the political spectra you reside.
Is anyone on our side noticing how their congressional contingent almost votes 95% of the time in lockstep? That transcribes across the board. They are resolute, they are organized, and now they are about to be able to use all three branches of government in perpetuity to squash any semblence of conservative discourse.
Us? we are still bickering over things that should wait until we take care of the biggest threats first. Reign in Briggs ,Soros, Garland, and all in between up the food chain of bottom feeders. Trump has said some pretty dumb things lately, but there is one point he is right with laser focus. If they can come for him, no one on the right politically is safe.
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Do you really not understand what this is about? Or are you knowingly giving "conservatives" the okay to jettison the rule of law when it fits the "conservative" political agenda?
Which is it?
Many of them would if Donald yelled at them loud enough. Case in point, DeSantis willing to dismantle interstate extradition. As for this character in New York - if Bragg is hiding evidence, or pushing a baseless charge, then he should be removed and prosecuted. Patience is warranted. I will not get caught up in a trumpy ragefest, only to be burned as details emerge. Key points:
1) Ex-Presidents are subject to prosecution like anyone else. Some of them should have been, most likely.
2) The “tell me what I want to hear” newsmedia is terrible at legal analysis
3) If any of Donald’s political opponents were subject to a malicious prosecution, he would be happy as a pig in shit
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The @nypost
reporting that @realDonaldTrump
will be arraigned on Tuesday at 2:15pm ET
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Jordan Sekulow
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The @nypost
reporting that @realDonaldTrump
will be arraigned on Tuesday at 2:15pm ET
Spring Election Day. Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice is the big state ticket.
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We difer on our views of Trump, but I am troubled that we are not circling the wagons at least on the short term. Probably the biggest difference in us and our enemies in the socialist left, is they know when to put their inter-idelogical tiffs aside when in an emergency. The emergency now is unless we all colacese around the core issue of fighting the ability to weaponize criminality based on where on the political spectra you reside.
Is anyone on our side noticing how their congressional contingent almost votes 95% of the time in lockstep? That transcribes across the board. They are resolute, they are organized, and now they are about to be able to use all three branches of government in perpetuity to squash any semblence of conservative discourse.
Us? we are still bickering over things that should wait until we take care of the biggest threats first. Reign in Briggs ,Soros, Garland, and all in between up the food chain of bottom feeders. Trump has said some pretty dumb things lately, but there is one point he is right with laser focus. If they can come for him, no one on the right politically is safe.
Exactly. They are not just coming after him, they are really coming after us.
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Trump refuses to go to "the hanging tree" in New York
DeSantis refuses extradition
Trump becomes an exile in Florida
America officially becomes two separate jurisdictions, two different places
Gradually, America drifts apart. Becoming different States with different rules and different cultures
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Many of them would if Donald yelled at them loud enough. Case in point, DeSantis willing to dismantle interstate extradition. As for this character in New York - if Bragg is hiding evidence, or pushing a baseless charge, then he should be removed and prosecuted. Patience is warranted. I will not get caught up in a trumpy ragefest, only to be burned as details emerge. Key points:
1) Ex-Presidents are subject to prosecution like anyone else. Some of them should have been, most likely.
2) The “tell me what I want to hear” newsmedia is terrible at legal analysis
3) If any of Donald’s political opponents were subject to a malicious prosecution, he would be happy as a pig in shit
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Trump refuses to go to "the hanging tree" in New York
DeSantis refuses extradition
Trump becomes an exile in Florida
America officially becomes two separate jurisdictions, two different places
Gradually, America drifts apart. Becoming different States with different rules and different cultures
What a day for a daydream.
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Many of them would if Donald yelled at them loud enough. Case in point, DeSantis willing to dismantle interstate extradition. As for this character in New York - if Bragg is hiding evidence, or pushing a baseless charge, then he should be removed and prosecuted. Patience is warranted. I will not get caught up in a trumpy ragefest, only to be burned as details emerge. Key points:
1) Ex-Presidents are subject to prosecution like anyone else. Some of them should have been, most likely.
2) The “tell me what I want to hear” newsmedia is terrible at legal analysis
3) If any of Donald’s political opponents were subject to a malicious prosecution, he would be happy as a pig in shit
WHat I heard is that Desantis can only refuse to issue a warrant, not dismantle interstate extradition. Meaning if Trump refuses to surrender, biden would have to send in federal marshals.
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WHat I heard is that Desantis can only refuse to issue a warrant, not dismantle interstate extradition. Meaning if Trump refuses to surrender, biden would have to send in federal marshals.
I could be wrong, but I believe that the governor has to allow the federal marshals into the state and I believe that the sheriff of the county overrides the marshals. Obviously I don't know what Trump's plans are but if he refuses to go to Manhattan things could get ugly. I hope the rest of the Trump family has left Mar A Lago and are somewhere else.
I find it interesting that Trump went after DeSantis who may be the one person who can save his hide.
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WHat I heard is that Desantis can only refuse to issue a warrant, not dismantle interstate extradition. Meaning if Trump refuses to surrender, biden would have to send in federal marshals.
It is not a 'Federal' case. It is a local bookkeeping discrepancy with a local DA. Why would the FEDs care?
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WHat I heard is that Desantis can only refuse to issue a warrant, not dismantle interstate extradition. Meaning if Trump refuses to surrender, biden would have to send in federal marshals.
... Which is all a moot point, because Tumpy is surrendering in NYC.
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It is not a 'Federal' case. It is a local bookkeeping discrepancy with a local DA. Why would the FEDs care?
Extradition between states is a federal matter. From the wikipedia article on U.S. extradition:
The Extradition Clause in the US Constitution requires states, upon demand of another state, to deliver a fugitive from justice who has committed a "treason, felony or other crime" to the state from which the fugitive has fled. 18 U.S.C. § 3182 sets the process by which an executive of a state, district, or territory of the United States must arrest and turn over a fugitive from another state, district, or territory.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_law_in_the_United_States
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I could be wrong, but I believe that the governor has to allow the federal marshals into the state and I believe that the sheriff of the county overrides the marshals. Obviously I don't know what Trump's plans are but if he refuses to go to Manhattan things could get ugly. I hope the rest of the Trump family has left Mar A Lago and are somewhere else.
I find it interesting that Trump went after DeSantis who may be the one person who can save his hide.
Interstate extradition is a matter of federal, and Constitutional, law, and each state is required to extradite at the request of another state. If a state refuses, then the federal courts can enforce the extradition request.
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... Which is all a moot point, because Tumpy is surrendering in NYC.
How could he play the martyr if he didn't? And before some start in, I think this whole charade is bullshit, but I also know what 'showman' (nicest way I can think of to put it) Trump is and he would never ever allow a reality star moment like this to pass by especially with the way it will fire up his base. As wrong and political as I think this sham is, everyone should keep in mind it couldn't even be happening if a married man didn't go out whoring on his wife and new baby.
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As wrong and political as I think this sham is, everyone should keep in mind it couldn't even be happening if a married man didn't go out whoring on his wife and new baby.
We don't know that. Trump was introduced to a whore who saw an opportunity to 'get paid'. A couple of photos later, and she was raped. When you are a billionaire, everyone is out to screw you. Including whores.
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We don't know that. Trump was introduced to a whore who saw an opportunity to 'get paid'. A couple of photos later, and she was raped. When you are a billionaire, everyone is out to screw you. Including whores.
No we don't know that. What we do know is that the left has been out to silence Trump since he decided to run for President and McConnell vowed that he would be a one-term president.
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How could he play the martyr if he didn't? And before some start in, I think this whole charade is bullshit, but I also know what 'showman' (nicest way I can think of to put it) Trump is and he would never ever allow a reality star moment like this to pass by especially with the way it will fire up his base. As wrong and political as I think this sham is, everyone should keep in mind it couldn't even be happening if a married man didn't go out whoring on his wife and new baby.
That is EXACTLY the truth of it. :beer:
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Interstate extradition is a matter of federal, and Constitutional, law, and each state is required to extradite at the request of another state. If a state refuses, then the federal courts can enforce the extradition request.
It's a nonstarter, unless DeSantis does something foolish. Is Donald supposed to hole up in his castle?
He should schedule a press event in New York on Tuesday. Deliver a short, memorized and well-prepared speech. Have the family in tow as a sign of solidarity. Calmly proceed into the DA's office, and wear an official smile for the camera. No "wild" protests, no insults for the jury pool, and no coke-fueled rants from Don Jr.
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It's a nonstarter, unless DeSantis does something foolish. Is Donald supposed to hole up in his castle?
He should schedule a press event in New York on Tuesday. Deliver a short, memorized and well-prepared speech. Have the family in tow as a sign of solidarity. Calmly proceed into the DA's office, and wear an official smile for the camera. No "wild" protests, no insults for the jury pool, and no coke-fueled rants from Don Jr.
That's what I truly hope happens. Don't give fuel to the other side.
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It's a nonstarter, unless DeSantis does something foolish. Is Donald supposed to hole up in his castle?
That's right... It's all drama!
He's on the campaign trail... What's he going to do, just not go to the states that will extradite him?
The whole idea of fighting extradition is just stupid.
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It's a nonstarter, unless DeSantis does something foolish. Is Donald supposed to hole up in his castle?
He should schedule a press event in New York on Tuesday. Deliver a short, memorized and well-prepared speech. Have the family in tow as a sign of solidarity. Calmly proceed into the DA's office, and wear an official smile for the camera. No "wild" protests, no insults for the jury pool, and no coke-fueled rants from Don Jr.
@cato potatoe
A rare instance where you and I agree. CALMLY show up and turn yourself in,and make a fool of the NYC DA and the DNC in the process.
The TRUTH is they have nothing "real" to charge him with,so he should help them expose themselves as fools and liars.
Meahwhile this is THE perfect platform to ask the public why the Clintons have faced no charges while detailing some of the things they have been proven to be guilty of,as well as some of the things everybody KNOWS they are guilty of,but have never been charged for.
IF Trump plays this "right",he has THE perfect platform to highlight Dim corruption,and the DNC can't stop him without dropping all the charges against him and admitting they were wrong.
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No we don't know that. What we do know is that the left has been out to silence Trump since he decided to run for President and McConnell vowed that he would be a one-term president.
Did he say that about Trump? I don't recall him saying that but I may have missed it. He did say that regarding Obama
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As wrong and political as I think this sham is, everyone should keep in mind it couldn't even be happening if a married man didn't go out whoring on his wife and new baby.
Yup
Ultimately, character matters.
This isn't the only issue he will face in the coming months. And, like someone eluded to earlier, even though some law scholars on the left and right agree this case seems weak, we don't know everything the grand jury has seen or any developments that may pop up as this case goes forward
Naturally, everybody is innocent until proven guilty and that also applies to Trump despite Pelosi's claim to the contrary. But the court of public opinion isn't bound by such rules
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How could he play the martyr if he didn't? And before some start in, I think this whole charade is bullshit, but I also know what 'showman' (nicest way I can think of to put it) Trump is and he would never ever allow a reality star moment like this to pass by especially with the way it will fire up his base. As wrong and political as I think this sham is, everyone should keep in mind it couldn't even be happening if a married man didn't go out whoring on his wife and new baby.
@GtHawk
Yeah,causen Trump bees de onlie wun what bin doin this,huh?
The freaking "Morality Police" make me want to puke. Most of these bastards are guilty of what they condemn other people of doing,but they are not public figures.
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Yeah,causen Trump bees de onlie wun what bin doin this,huh?
The freaking "Morality Police" make me want to puke. Most of these bastards are guilty of what they condemn other people of doing,but they are not public figures.
@sneakypete
I am ALL FOR going back to requiring high standards of public officials.
If he can't keep his oath to his wife. what good is his oath to me?
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Did he say that about Trump? I don't recall him saying that but I may have missed it. He did say that regarding Obama
Well, since I can't find a link -- I'll say I stand corrected and remembered incorrectly.
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... Which is all a moot point, because Tumpy is surrendering in NYC.
Yes. Trump wants this.
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Yes. Trump wants this.
Sure he does. Victim card. He gets to play the martyr.
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That's the level of disdain and hate I have for Biden. Trump? Not a fan, but he doesn't near neet that bar of despot. And I am sure deep down, Biden is worse in your book too. I hope.
Biden is a useful idiot, chosen because those who are indeed worse than Trump can manipulate him. But they are the enemy we know.
If we're ever going to get back to the days of fiscal responsibility, young adults accepting their responsibility to marry and have children, and the country we used to know where we could be trusted with guns without a mass school shooting every couple of weeks... we have to take the microphone away from Donald Trump. He's only in this for himself, and he will destroy everything in pursuit of fealty to himself.
Yet there are too many people, allegedly against these evil forces, who demand fealty to Trump. The only way to neuter that is to get rid of Trump. The only way we can unite against the left is to get rid of those who insist on themselves and no one else.
So let our mutual enemies devour each other, and hopefully we can pick up the wreckage.
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Hadn't seen this before ...
Trump's paid a second lady (my words, probable others fit) ? ? ?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-grand-jury-digs-into-hush-money-paid-to-second-woman-c1818ffb
That woman is Karen McDougal, a former model for Playboy who was voted “Playmate of the Year in 1998”.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/karen-mcdougal-donald-trump-indictment-b2312051.html
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
BREAKING: President Trump raises over $4 million in 24 hours after Manhattan DA's indictment. 25% of donations are from first-time donors to the Trump Campaign.
6:56 PM · Mar 31, 2023
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Hadn't seen this before ...
Trump's paid a second lady (my words, probable others fit) ? ? ?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-grand-jury-digs-into-hush-money-paid-to-second-woman-c1818ffb
That woman is Karen McDougal, a former model for Playboy who was voted “Playmate of the Year in 1998”.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/karen-mcdougal-donald-trump-indictment-b2312051.html
“We talked for a couple of hours, then it was ‘on!’ — we got naked and had sex,” she wrote.
She added that Mr Trump offered her money afterwards, to which she responded that she was “not that kind of girl”.
You always set the price up front. 1st rule in the Art of the deal.
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Biden is a useful idiot, chosen because those who are indeed worse than Trump can manipulate him. But they are the enemy we know.
If we're ever going to get back to the days of fiscal responsibility, young adults accepting their responsibility to marry and have children, and the country we used to know where we could be trusted with guns without a mass school shooting every couple of weeks... we have to take the microphone away from Donald Trump. He's only in this for himself, and he will destroy everything in pursuit of fealty to himself.
Yet there are too many people, allegedly against these evil forces, who demand fealty to Trump. The only way to neuter that is to get rid of Trump. The only way we can unite against the left is to get rid of those who insist on themselves and no one else.
So let our mutual enemies devour each other, and hopefully we can pick up the wreckage.
The problems in this country that you mention were occurring long before Trump. Like him or not, he had us headed in a more positive direction; energy independence, low unemployment, shelves were full, gas prices were much lower, etc.
Our DOJ and Congress are a disaster. The only way to fix that is from the ground up; local and state level. That's why it is so important to support conservative governors.
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She added that Mr Trump offered her money afterwards, to which she responded that she was “not that kind of girl”.
Well the articles hint it seems $150k (more than Stormy) found it's way to her before she decided to suddenly hush up and call it just a mutual fling. I had heard rumors of this before (the fling) but not the "hush money" being thrown in the equation.
I need to get a job as Trump's hitman and possible save him a few bucks.... you know ... art of the deal stuff.
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Well the articles hint it seems $150k (more than Stormy) found it's way to her before she decided to suddenly hush up and call it just a mutual fling. I had heard rumors of this before (the fling) but not the "hush money" being thrown in the equation.
I need to get a job as Trump's hitman and possible save him a few bucks.... you know ... art of the deal stuff.
All of this is nauseating.
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All of this is nauseating.
We all knew he wasn't a good guy, but let's be honest, they are all quite scummy.
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We all knew he wasn't a good guy, but let's be honest, they are all quite scummy.
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Trump to travel to New York Monday ahead of Tuesday arraignment
by Brett Samuels - 03/31/23 7:15 PM ET
Former President Donald Trump is expected to travel to New York on Monday ahead of his scheduled arraignment on Tuesday on still unknown charges, a source familiar with the planning confirmed.
Trump is expected to turn himself in Tuesday morning ahead of the arraignment, which a court spokesperson indicated would be at 2:15 p.m. eastern time.
The Washington Post reported Friday that Secret Service agents were at the Manhattan courthouse where Trump will turn himself in, to tour the site and determine how the former president will get in and out securely.
Authorities are preparing for a frenzied atmosphere given the media attention and possible protests that will accompany Trump’s arraignment.
more
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3928772-trump-to-travel-to-new-york-monday-ahead-of-tuesday-arraignment/
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Trump to travel from Florida to NYC next week to be arraigned, lawyer says he ‘will not take a plea deal’
April 1, 2023 | Vivek Saxena
Former President Donald Trump reportedly plans to travel from Florida to New York next week to be arraigned sometime Tuesday morning before Judge Juan Merchan on charges related to his 2016 hush money scandal involving Stormy Daniels.
“Mr. Trump intends to travel to New York on Monday and stay the night at Trump Tower. … He has no plans to hold a news conference or address the public while he is in New York,” The New York Times reported Friday, citing anonymous sources.
Security will reportedly be provided by the Secret Service.
more
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/04/01/trump-to-travel-from-florida-to-nyc-next-week-to-be-arraigned-lawyer-says-he-will-not-take-a-plea-deal-1346131/
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The Washington Post reported Friday that Secret Service agents were at the Manhattan courthouse where Trump will turn himself in, to tour the site and determine how the former president will get in and out securely.
...hmm .... I fear for Trump's safety.
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"What is Donald Trump's crime?...His crime is refusing to bow or bend to the corrupt and rotten foreign policy establishment that is used to always getting their way in this country." - @StephenM" (Carlson/Stephen Miller video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/Surabees/status/1641994715418509319
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The Washington Post reported Friday that Secret Service agents were at the Manhattan courthouse where Trump will turn himself in, to tour the site and determine how the former president will get in and out securely.
...hmm .... I fear for Trump's safety.
@libertybele
I do,also. The left is unhinged to start with or they wouldn't be leftists,and and the urge to be named in the history books may be more than some of those cretins can deal with.
Also,and I do NOT like writing this or even admitting it,but it wouldn't suprise me if the DNC arranged a "hit" on him to make sure he doesn't get elected. After all,at stake is control of the whole freaking world.
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@GtHawk
Yeah,causen Trump bees de onlie wun what bin doin this,huh?
The freaking "Morality Police" make me want to puke. Most of these bastards are guilty of what they condemn other people of doing,but they are not public figures.
Yeah I get it, you defended Clinton too right because it was just sex and morality police or some other @!$!!% too. You live your morals the way you see fit and I'll live mine, I have been married to/with the same woman for forty eight years and never once was unfaithful let alone right after one of children was born. May issue isn't that Trump is a low morals kind of guy, one only has to look at his history, it is that if I wanted a low morals kind of guy in the White House I would just vote for a democrat.
Pete I respect the hell out of you for your service, you went places and did things few have the ability to do, but we will always see Trump through different eyes. You appear to see him as all shining and bright and I see him as the man he is in shades of gray...as we all but a miniscule few other than Saints (yeah I know you are an atheist) are.
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All of this is nauseating.
Hey look on the bright side, at least none of them were children :shrug: That is a bright side right....maybe the only bright side there is?
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Yeah I get it, you defended Clinton too right because it was just sex and morality police or some other @!$!!% too. You live your morals the way you see fit and I'll live mine, I have been married to/with the same woman for forty eight years and never once was unfaithful let alone right after one of children was born. May issue isn't that Trump is a low morals kind of guy, one only has to look at his history, it is that if I wanted a low morals kind of guy in the White House I would just vote for a democrat.
Pete I respect the hell out of you for your service, you went places and did things few have the ability to do, but we will always see Trump through different eyes. You appear to see him as all shining and bright and I see him as the man he is in shades of gray...as we all but a miniscule few other than Saints (yeah I know you are an atheist) are.
@GtHawk
WRONG! I see him as the NECCESSARY EVIL we NEED if there is to be any hope at all for saving America as a free country full of free people.
He will be the ONLY candidate running purely to gain mention in the history books as "The President that saved America". The rest are all looking for the connections that will make them and their families rich and beyond the reach of the laws they enact.
And make no mistake about it,that IS what he is looking for,which means he is the only one that can't be bought.
Hell,he can't even be blackmailed because he brags about stuff most politicians try to hide from and deny.
Plus,he can only serve ONE term. At this point in history,there is a lot that can be said in favor of that.
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@libertybele
I do,also. The left is unhinged to start with or they wouldn't be leftists,and and the urge to be named in the history books may be more than some of those cretins can deal with.
Also,and I do NOT like writing this or even admitting it,but it wouldn't suprise me if the DNC arranged a "hit" on him to make sure he doesn't get elected. After all,at stake is control of the whole freaking world.
Trump will soon be in "their" hands. Who knows @sneakypete ....
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@GtHawk
WRONG! I see him as the NECCESSARY EVIL we NEED if there is to be any hope at all for saving America as a free country full of free people.
He will be the ONLY candidate running purely to gain mention in the history books as "The President that saved America". The rest are all looking for the connections that will make them and their families rich and beyond the reach of the laws they enact.
And make no mistake about it,that IS what he is looking for,which means he is the only one that can't be bought.
Hell,he can't even be blackmailed because he brags about stuff most politicians try to hide from and deny.
Plus,he can only serve ONE term. At this point in history,there is a lot that can be said in favor of that.
Trump is running purely for Trump and Trumps ego, nothing even remotely as altruistic as saving America and you even admit it in your post "the ONLY candidate running purely to gain mention in the history books as "The President that saved America"." Exactly how is any President going to "save America" they power is short lived and when as Trump did, like those before him, effect that saving by EO's that can be erased by the next President as Biden did with Trumps then what is their true legacy, what have they truly accomplished to go down in history. Sorry I don't put Trump in the same league as Reagan who accomplished much more in the way of saving America, and even that was short lived, than Trump has or that I believe he ever will.
As far as can't even be blackmailed? How many more women paid off in his past, what else is he hiding? I don't ask that to imply he is worse than many other men, but he sure as hell isn't better, morally, than other men.
What really concerns me is this ridiculous idolization of Trump, no I don't mean you. it is the same troubling idolization that I saw with JFK and really the whole bullshit corrupt lot of the Kennedys, and Obama. I have never in my entire life understood the absolute need some people have to idolize politicians, actors, singers and athletes. They are all just people doing the job they were paid to do, no different than an airline pilot, or bus driver or .....member of the military. Do their jobs right and they will earn my respect, from a janitor or the kid cleaning a table at a fast food restaurant on up, but idolization, nah I save that kind of emotion for one being and HE ain't on this Earth.
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Former Trump rival Jeb Bush calls Manhattan grand jury indictment 'very political'
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday that a Manhattan grand jury's decision to indict former President Donald Trump during his third bid for the White House is "very political" and "not a matter of justice."
Bush, who challenged Trump for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016, noted in a tweet that Trump was indicted on case that other prosecutors refused to move forward with before Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office revived it recently.
"Bragg’s predecessor didn’t take up the case. The Justice Department didn’t take up the case. Bragg first said he would not take up the case. This is very political, not a matter of justice," Bush, the second son of former President George H.W. Bush wrote in a tweet.
"In this case, let the jury be the voters," he added...........
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-trump-rival-jeb-bush-calls-manhattan-grand-jury-indictment-very-political
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Former Trump rival Jeb Bush calls Manhattan grand jury indictment 'very political'
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday that a Manhattan grand jury's decision to indict former President Donald Trump during his third bid for the White House is "very political" and "not a matter of justice."
Bush, who challenged Trump for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016, noted in a tweet that Trump was indicted on case that other prosecutors refused to move forward with before Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office revived it recently.
"Bragg’s predecessor didn’t take up the case. The Justice Department didn’t take up the case. Bragg first said he would not take up the case. This is very political, not a matter of justice," Bush, the second son of former President George H.W. Bush wrote in a tweet.
"In this case, let the jury be the voters," he added...........
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-trump-rival-jeb-bush-calls-manhattan-grand-jury-indictment-very-political
I wonder if brother Jorge will chime in, that is if Bent Willie and Obamaramadingdong give him permission. probably not since the only time Jorge speaks up is to aid democrats and malign conservatives.
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He will be the ONLY candidate running purely to gain mention in the history books as "The President that saved America".
Everybody runs because they want to "save America." They just define it depending on their ideology.
"Save America" is a pretty vague term. This was a guy who recently said he doesn't know if appointing Chris Wray was a mistake or not
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As far as can't even be blackmailed? How many more women paid off in his past, what else is he hiding? I don't ask that to imply he is worse than many other men, but he sure as hell isn't better, morally, than other men.
There may be another he paid off. A former Playboy model. And Trump has over 20 sexual misconduct accusations made against him over the years and, in fact he's has an April 25th trial from one of them.
Everyone is innocent till proven guilty and sexual misconduct is hard to prove. But, are all 25 or 26 women lying?
So all his problems, and more are coming, isn't all because the left are "out to git 'im." It may be a factor, but he does give his opponents ammo
I know some have a bond with him. But a bond like that should be reserved for family and friends. Not elected officials
This is why, despite the sneers from MAGAs, Character Matters. It mattered with Hillary and Bill Clinton. It should matter no less when it comes to Trump
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Everybody runs because they want to "save America." They just define it depending on their ideology.
"Save America" is a pretty vague term. This was a guy who recently said he doesn't know if appointing Chris Wray was a mistake or not
Trump did however have this country pointed in a more positive direction (minus the deficit); energy independence, border control, low unemployment, lower gas prices, etc.
Every president has their faults. As president I think he did well. So well, that the left is going to make sure that he never runs again. They are intimidated by his supporters; Trump was their voice.
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No, but it does mean that the spending on the hush-money wasn't election-related and therefore not an election-law violation, which Bragg needs it to be for it to be a felony and not a time-barred misdemeanor.
I highly doubt all the trouble to hide the money trail was for fooling his wife... She is a model, not an accountant. This was done to hide it from others. Lawyers told Donald what story to put out to the public (opposing election officials/lawyers) to hear, I just don't buy it.
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If I'm Trump, there is no way that I show up in NY next week. I would make them come and get me, which won't happen because the DA in this case has no control over federal agents. If they want to try him for a federal crime, then they can arraign him in Florida.
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I highly doubt all the trouble to hide the money trail was for fooling his wife... She is a model, not an accountant. This was done to hide it from others. Lawyers told Donald what story to put out to the public (opposing election officials/lawyers) to hear, I just don't buy it.
We're assuming that Stormy is telling the truth. Trump may have had a 'one night stand' with Stormy before Melania and Stormy blackmailed Trump -- either you give me $$ or I'll accuse you of an affair.
I haven't really followed the story to know all of the details, but what exactly is the crime?
If he did have an affair and paid her off; I find it nauseating. I feel for Melania and especially Barron.
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If I'm Trump, there is no way that I show up in NY next week. I would make them come and get me, which won't happen because the DA in this case has no control over federal agents. If they want to try him for a federal crime, then they can arraign him in Florida.
Supposedly they have threatened to use U.S.marshals to come get him in FL??
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I highly doubt all the trouble to hide the money trail was for fooling his wife... She is a model, not an accountant. This was done to hide it from others.
There are only two factors here that would make this transaction illegal:
1) Stormy was paid to do something illegal
2) Stormy was paid from the Trump campaign.
Neither of which happened. It doesn't matter one iota on what was Trump's motive here. His action was perfectly legal.
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Supposedly they have threatened to use U.S.marshals to come get him in FL??
They? Who is 'they'? The NYC DA's office?
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They? Who is 'they'? The NYC DA's office?
I'm not sure -- it was mentioned in an article posted in here recently.
I didn't think that U.S.marshals could enter a state without the governor's consent??
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I'm not sure -- it was mentioned in an article posted in here recently.
I didn't think that U.S.marshals could enter a state without the governor's consent??
They can. But local DA's (i.e. non-federal prosecutors) can't order them around.
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If I'm Trump, there is no way that I show up in NY next week. I would make them come and get me, which won't happen because the DA in this case has no control over federal agents. If they want to try him for a federal crime, then they can arraign him in Florida.
Nah, they will wait till he is in a state that WILL extradite him and take him right off the campaign trail.
Avoiding it is pointless. unless he wants to hide in Florida.
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Nah, they will wait till he is in a state that WILL extradite him and take him right off the campaign trail.
That would be even better PR. Democrat prosecutor interferes in election by having candidate arrested during campaign stop.
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Avoiding it is pointless. unless he wants to hide in Florida.
I wouldn't use the word 'hide'. I would respect him if he 'holds his position'.
No need to make it easy for them. Make them come and get him! Why not?
It is their game. So make them play.
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I wouldn't use the word 'hide'. I would respect him if he 'holds his position'.
No need to make it easy for them. Make them come and get him! Why not?
It is their game. So make them play.
He can't if he is to continue to campaign... Which is my only point.
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There are only two factors here that would make this transaction illegal:
1) Stormy was paid to do something illegal
2) Stormy was paid from the Trump campaign.
Neither of which happened. It doesn't matter one iota on what was Trump's motive here. His action was perfectly legal.
Then why try to hide it at all? Again, I sincerely doubt it was "to hide it from his wife"... and it probable wasn't just once, but at least two times.
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Nah, they will wait till he is in a state that WILL extradite him and take him right off the campaign trail.
Avoiding it is pointless. unless he wants to hide in Florida.
We seem to be forgetting he wants this!
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"What is Donald Trump's crime?...His crime is refusing to bow or bend to the corrupt and rotten foreign policy establishment that is used to always getting their way in this country." - @StephenM" (Carlson/Stephen Miller video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/Surabees/status/1641994715418509319
Critical, concise, eye opening analysis. So good I watched it twice.
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Then why try to hide it at all? Again, I sincerely doubt it was "to hide it from his wife"... and it probable wasn't just once, but at least two times.
the stormy payoff is but on aspect ot donnys seres of crimes....
Michael cohens crimes may give some idea of that the charges levied aginst The Donny ..COHEN'S BOSS at the time...of his trial.... WILL BE
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax
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the stormy payoff is but on aspect ot donnys seres of crimes....
Michael cohens crimes may give some idea of that the charges levied aginst The Donny ..COHEN'S BOSS at the time...of his trial.... WILL BE
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax
There is a small part of me that fears that there might be some form or fashion of a "bombshell" that no one knows about at this time. Otherwise, besides the political sacrifice of Bragg for moolah, there is so much to lose professionaly for those who are pushing this. Disbarrment is a pretty strong incentive for those who risk it.
One way or another I guess we'll find out Tuesday.
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We seem to be forgetting he wants this!
Oh I ain't forgotten. Just pointing out that the 'hide in Florida' option can't play in campaign mode.
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There is a small part of me that fears that there might be some form or fashion of a "bombshell" that no one knows about at this time. Otherwise, besides the political sacrifice of Bragg for moolah, there is so much to lose professionaly for those who are pushing this. Disbarrment is a pretty strong incentive for those who risk it.
One way or another I guess we'll find out Tuesday.
Agreed, this is only the beginning. As I have stated several times, there is no way that the leftists are going to let him run again. It's just not going to happen.
Personally, I fear for his safety. Trump is 76 years old and that is a worrisome factor in itself.
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Agreed, this is only the beginning. As I have stated several times, there is no way that the leftists are going to let him run again. It's just not going to happen.
Personally, I fear for his safety. Trump is 76 years old and that is a worrisome factor in itself.
And think of easy it would be for the dims to fabricate evidence. I hope Trump has hired the best document and electroni forensics experts in the world. I think he is going to need it.
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And think of easy it would be for the dims to fabricate evidence. I hope Trump has hired the best document and electroni forensics experts in the world. I think he is going to need it.
Fabricate evidence definitely. Trump having an 'accident' I fear is also within the realm of possibilities.
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Critical, concise, eye opening analysis. So good I watched it twice.
Ditto @aligncare
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Ditto @aligncare
Need a tissue?
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Need a tissue?
Moronic.
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(PM of Hungary)
Orbán Viktor
@PM_ViktorOrban
Keep on fighting, Mr. President! We are with you, @realDonaldTrump
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5:19 AM · Apr 3, 2023
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https://mobile.twitter.com/PM_ViktorOrban/status/1642819156880785408
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There is a small part of me that fears that there might be some form or fashion of a "bombshell" that no one knows about at this time. Otherwise, besides the political sacrifice of Bragg for moolah, there is so much to lose professionaly for those who are pushing this. Disbarrment is a pretty strong incentive for those who risk it.
One way or another I guess we'll find out Tuesday.
there are cases being worked osut in florida and New Jersey and who know where else.
donald trumps always been a self sabotager...thus his hoarde of failed business.....and its STILL working////// far better than he could ever have imagined.
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There is a small part of me that fears that there might be some form or fashion of a "bombshell" that no one knows about at this time. Otherwise, besides the political sacrifice of Bragg for moolah, there is so much to lose professionaly for those who are pushing this. Disbarrment is a pretty strong incentive for those who risk it.
One way or another I guess we'll find out Tuesday.
True enough, but who is risking disbarment from this? Certainly not Bragg or any prosecutor in his office. Trump's lawyers are more at risk of disbarment than Bragg is.
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"WATCH: Mayor Eric Adams to Trump supporters:
“Control yourselves. New York City is our home, not a playground for your misplaced anger. We are the safest large city in America…”
https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1642934268367187968
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"WATCH: Mayor Eric Adams to Trump supporters:
“Control yourselves. New York City is our home, not a playground for your misplaced anger. We are the safest large city in America…”
https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1642934268367187968
:rolling:
And he says it with all sincerity.
How does he define “safest large city in America?”
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"WTF is this crazy old man implying here?!" (Biden video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteakforPodcast/status/1642950271549702145
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"WTF is this crazy old man implying here?!" (Biden video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteakforPodcast/status/1642950271549702145
WTF is right. ESAD Despot Joe.
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"The most beloved President in modern history. We the people stand with Trump against this political persecution!!" (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1642949535738503189
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"WTF is this crazy old man implying here?!" (Biden video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteakforPodcast/status/1642950271549702145
Exactly what he stated (if I heard correctly) -- to make sure that under the Constitution he does not became president again.
So -- IMO his indictment in NY is just the beginning. They have every intent of making sure he doesn't run again.
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Donald Trump’s Fundraising Soars $7 Million After Indictment
Wendell Husebø 3 Apr 2023
Former President Donald Trump’s campaign fundraising soared $7 million after news of the indictment Thursday evening, Jason Miller, senior adviser to Trump, announced Monday.
“In only three days since news of the indictment, President @realDonaldTrump’s campaign has raised a record $7M,” he tweeted.
https://twitter.com/JasonMillerinDC/status/1642950787562373121
more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/03/donald-trumps-fundraising-soars-7-million-after-indictment/
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Trump lands in New York City ahead of Tuesday arraignment
Former President Donald Trump landed at LaGuardia Airport in New York City Monday ahead of his scheduled Tuesday arraignment.
Trump is expected to travel from the Queens airport to Trump Tower in Manhattan, where he will spend Monday evening.
The former president and current 2024 hopeful is then expected to turn himself over to authorities around 1 p.m. Tuesday in New York, roughly an hour ahead of the arraignment proceedings.
The arraignment, which will be presided over by Juan Manuel Merchan, is expected to take less than an hour.
Trump is expected to enter a not guilty plea during the proceedings, after which he plans to fly back to his Florida home to deliver remarks later Tuesday evening.
What Trump will say in those remarks is still a mystery, as some legal experts have speculated that Trump may be under a “gag order” and unable to publicly discuss some details of the pending case.
Posted by Michael Lee
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Opinion: Why Trump argues there was no crime at all, not even misdemeanor falsification of records
Intent to defraud. Remember that phrase. You’re probably going to be hearing it a lot.
Here’s why. Even some of the most vigorous critics of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s prosecution of former President Donald Trump have assumed that, technically, he is guilty of a petty offense – the New York misdemeanor of falsifying business records.
Bragg's critics argue that this is an outrageous charge, not because Trump is innocent of falsifying records, but because Bragg would never bring suck a piddling charge against anyone but Trump. Bragg is an elected Democrat in the radical "progressive prosecutor" mold; his default setting is anti-enforcement, and he campaigned in blue, blue Manhattan by vowing to exploit the power of the DA’s office against Trump.
In the Stormy Daniels caper, Trump’s then-"fixer" Michael Cohen laid out $130,000 to get the porn star (whose real name is Stephanie Clifford) to agree to remain silent about an affair she claims to have had with Trump in 2006. There is nothing illegal about such a non-disclosure agreement; indeed, NDAs are a staple of civil litigation settlements and similar private arrangements.
Posted by Fox News
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There are no provisions in the Constitution regarding a presidential candidate's criminal history, meaning an individual who has been charged or convicted of a crime is not barred from holding the highest office in the nation.
https://www.silive.com/politics/2023/03/can-a-convicted-a-felon-become-a-us-president.html
So I don't know what Biden is implying in that soundbyte...
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Opinion: Why Trump argues there was no crime at all, not even misdemeanor falsification of records
Intent to defraud. Remember that phrase. You’re probably going to be hearing it a lot.
Here’s why. Even some of the most vigorous critics of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s prosecution of former President Donald Trump have assumed that, technically, he is guilty of a petty offense – the New York misdemeanor of falsifying business records.
Bragg's critics argue that this is an outrageous charge, not because Trump is innocent of falsifying records, but because Bragg would never bring suck a piddling charge against anyone but Trump. Bragg is an elected Democrat in the radical "progressive prosecutor" mold; his default setting is anti-enforcement, and he campaigned in blue, blue Manhattan by vowing to exploit the power of the DA’s office against Trump.
In the Stormy Daniels caper, Trump’s then-"fixer" Michael Cohen laid out $130,000 to get the porn star (whose real name is Stephanie Clifford) to agree to remain silent about an affair she claims to have had with Trump in 2006. There is nothing illegal about such a non-disclosure agreement; indeed, NDAs are a staple of civil litigation settlements and similar private arrangements.
Posted by Fox News
... and possible $150k for the other Playboy lady... but in essence I agree, there is two systems of justice in NY... one depends on whether they like you (you are a good little liberal voting droid). Never let it be said I like the two tier political motivated hypocritical NY values system of justice.
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there are 34 points against the SLOB
they are not all about STORMY
donnys hosed.... and he knows it
whys the text,,, so large? Its 34 points
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there are 34 points against the SLOB
they are not all about STORMY
donnys hosed.... and he knows it
whys the text,,, so large? Its 34 points
:hijack:
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There are no provisions in the Constitution regarding a presidential candidate's criminal history, meaning an individual who has been charged or convicted of a crime is not barred from holding the highest office in the nation.
https://www.silive.com/politics/2023/03/can-a-convicted-a-felon-become-a-us-president.html
So I don't know what Biden is implying in that soundbyte...
What he is implying is he doesn't know the Constitution. And if he was mistakenly referring to U.S. code 18 • 2071 he is on some damned thin ice there.
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your minds been hijacked by the guy with the laughable fake blond combover and the Bizarre Orange "tan" Mr Tangerine Man
my message was about the INDCITMENTS... 34 COUNTS.....
as MY message was too CUTTING and sarcastic re COUNTS AND POINTS... youre certain that it was out of order
because youre so blinded by rage that you cant SEE STRAIGHT.
your inner Donny Trump May Be showing
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your minds been hijacked by the guy with the laughable fake blond combover and the Bizarre Orange "tan" Mr Tangerine Man
my message was about the INDCITMENTS... 34 COUNTS.....
as MY message was too CUTTING and sarcastic re COUNTS AND POINTS... youre certain that it was out of order
because youre so blinded by rage that you cant SEE STRAIGHT.
your inner Donny Trump May Be showing
888mouth
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Anyone got a copy of the actual indictment?
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Anyone got a copy of the actual indictment?
Give me a sec to grab a roll from the bathroom.
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Anyone got a copy of the actual indictment?
When I see it I'll post it...but I think it will be released tomorrow..
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Trump hires white-collar defense attorney in hush money case
by Stephen Neukam - 04/03/23 1:33 PM ET
A top white-collar criminal defense lawyer has been hired as the lead counsel representing former President Trump following his indictment in a Manhattan criminal case, a Trump spokesperson confirmed to The Hill.
Todd Blanche, a former federal prosecutor, is joining the Trump team after leaving New York law firm Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft, where he was a partner, according to an email from Blanche to the firm obtained by Politico, which first reported the news.
“I have been asked to represent Trump in the recently charged DA case, and after much thought/consideration, I have decided it is the best thing for me to do and an opportunity I should not pass up,” Blanche said in the letter.
Blanche was an assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York for nine years. He has experience both investigating and defending cases involving a range of white-collar crimes, including bank fraud, wire fraud and campaign finance violations.
Blanche recently represented Rudy Guiliani associate Igor Fruman, who agreed to a plea deal last year in a campaign finance case that landed him a one-year prison sentence. He also represented former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, in a case in which a state judge dropped New York charges against Manafort because of its double jeopardy law. Manafort was sentenced to over seven years in prison in 2019 resulting from a federal prosecution from former Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
The Hill has reached out to both the law firm and Blanche for comment.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3931599-trump-hires-white-collar-defense-attorney-in-hush-money-case/
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your minds been hijacked by the guy with the laughable fake blond combover and the Bizarre Orange "tan" Mr Tangerine Man
my message was about the INDCITMENTS... 34 COUNTS.....
as MY message was too CUTTING and sarcastic re COUNTS AND POINTS... youre certain that it was out of order
because youre so blinded by rage that you cant SEE STRAIGHT.
your inner Donny Trump May Be showing
A lot of us have many differences with Trump, but that doesn't mean he should stand for this kangaroo court type of garbage. Because in the end it will happen to us all.
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your minds been hijacked by the guy with the laughable fake blond combover and the Bizarre Orange "tan" Mr Tangerine Man
my message was about the INDCITMENTS... 34 COUNTS.....
as MY message was too CUTTING and sarcastic re COUNTS AND POINTS... youre certain that it was out of order
because youre so blinded by rage that you cant SEE STRAIGHT.
your inner Donny Trump May Be showing
Liberty is pretty open minded/fair minded about Trump. She sees and reports both good and bad on him. Stick around and see for yourself. @MeshugeMikey
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A lot of us have many differences with Trump, but that doesn't mean he should stand for this kangaroo court type of garbage. Because in the end it will happen to us all.
Agree with that. If they can falsely nab and imprison the leading POTUS candidate of the GOP, how easy would it be to J6 your average Briefer.
I'm not voting for the guy in the primary, and if this whole thing is some concocted scheme for raising campaign funds, ..... i'm going to be pissed. that I gave him any sympathy at all.
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When I see it I'll post it...but I think it will be released tomorrow..
@mystery-ak
Thx!
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https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/status/1642923363839483908
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'Trump Force One' lands in New York ahead of former president's day in court
Former President Trump’s plane "Trump Force One" landed at LaGuardia Airport in New York City on Monday afternoon ahead of his arraignment at a court in Manhattan.
Trump’s plane left the tarmac at Palm Beach International Airport to fly to the Big Apple where the president will be arraigned after a grand jury indictment for alleged hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal through his former attorney Michael Cohen.
Trump’s lawyers said on Sunday said he expects to make a motion to dismiss any charges stemming from Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg’s investigation...........
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/04/1440/810/Trump-Indictment_111.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
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NYC is "safe" because the residents are expected to strategize like they are in a war zone, and not bother reporting crime if they fall victim.
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It's going to be a reality TV like Zoo tomorrow.
How this country has gone to shit, is tragic
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It's going to be a reality TV like Zoo tomorrow.
How this country has gone to shit, is tragic
you can say THAT again
Donny Twump and his legal team appear in court...
(https://i.imgur.com/Hs3KUpj.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/status/1642923363839483908
Funny, but I don't recall actual terrorists, such as Antifa, getting a similar lecture from "Daddy" Adams. F**king hypocrite.
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It's going to be a reality TV like Zoo tomorrow.
How this country has gone to shit, is tragic
I mourn for this country. 8888crybaby 8888crybaby 8888crybaby :patriot:
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It's going to be a reality TV like Zoo tomorrow.
How this country has gone to shit, is tragic
Thankfully, all I will see of it is whatever I bounce into here...
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Thankfully, all I will see of it is whatever I bounce into here...
Starting to envy you a bit right now.
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Thankfully, all I will see of it is whatever I bounce into here...
As you know @roamer_1 you are extremely fortunate!!
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Starting to envy you a bit right now.
As you know @roamer_1 you are extremely fortunate!!
Not at all, y'all... Nothing to envy. It's by design. The best thing I ever did was turn FOXNews OFF.
It's all crap I can do nothing about... What is the sense in jacking my blood pressure?
Nah. Leave all the drama to the youngins.
I got no time for that.
I've got fishin to do.
:beer:
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Not at all, y'all... Nothing to envy. It's by design. The best thing I ever did was turn FOXNews OFF.
It's all crap I can do nothing about... What is the sense in jacking my blood pressure?
Nah. Leave all the drama to the youngins.
I got no time for that.
I've got fishin to do.
:beer:
I mean that you are fortunate to live in the location that you do --- I don't watch TV and I get my news in here or on line.
Nope, no point in watching TV -- all lies and drama anyways.
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Not at all, y'all... Nothing to envy. It's by design. The best thing I ever did was turn FOXNews OFF.
It's all crap I can do nothing about... What is the sense in jacking my blood pressure?
Nah. Leave all the drama to the youngins.
I got no time for that.
I've got fishin to do.
:beer:
Yeah of course the news still gets to you one way or the other. I mean you're here talking about it, so it's basically impossible to ignore.
I've tried to unplug, but once a huge story breaks, i'm back glued to the news again.
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Yeah of course the news still gets to you one way or the other. I mean you're here talking about it, so it's basically impossible to ignore.
I've tried to unplug, but once a huge story breaks, i'm back glued to the news again.
Right... Like I said... What I stumble into here... And alright... The top of the hour on HANK-FM... But that is it. No commercials. No looking for it, and that's that.
I get enough to know what is going on. But it sure ain't 24/7 like it used to be.
Screw that.
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Lukas Nelson & Family - Turn Off The News And Build a Garden (Quarantunes Evening Session)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPrPtDoaB3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPrPtDoaB3s)
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Exclusive: Trump to be charged Tuesday with 34 felony counts, but spared handcuffs and mug shot
Michael Isikoff
Donald Trump will be placed under arrest on Tuesday and informed that he has been charged with 34 felony counts for falsification of business records, according to a source who has been briefed on the procedures for the arraignment of the former president.
A New York City Police arrest report summarizing the charges against Trump will then be prepared and entered into the court system before he is led into a courtroom to be formally arraigned on the charges, none of which are misdemeanors.
But, the source said, Trump will not be put in handcuffs, placed in a jail cell or subjected to a mug shot — typical procedures even for white-collar defendants until a judge has weighed in on pretrial conditions. Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office, which has been consulting with the Secret Service and New York City court officials, concluded that there was no reason to subject the former president to handcuffs or a mug shot.
The stated reason for handcuffing defendants is on the grounds that the suspect might be a flight risk or a threat to the district attorney or court personnel, neither of which were judged to be relevant to the handling of a former president protected at all times by a phalanx of Secret Service agents.
The charge of falsification of business records is normally prosecuted in New York state as a misdemeanor. But Bragg’s office bumped up all the charges to Class E felonies — the lowest level of felonies in the New York State penal code on the grounds that the conduct was intended to conceal another underlying crime, according to the source.
more
https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-trump-to-be-charged-tuesday-with-34-felony-counts-but-spared-handcuffs-and-mug-shot-001241750.html
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Lukas Nelson & Family - Turn Off The News And Build a Garden (Quarantunes Evening Session)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPrPtDoaB3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPrPtDoaB3s)
Willie and family were here on Saturday. Everyone said it was great....
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Go big or go home. Bragg sets world record with his steaming pile of BS.
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"The people WILL NOT STAND for this." (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/MagaMemeWizard/status/1643043690565255170
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"The people WILL NOT STAND for this." (Video)
Whole thing started due to someone not remaining standing...
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Video No-Show: NY Judge Bans Live Courtroom Coverage of Trump Arraignment
A handful of press photographers will be allowed to take pictures in the New York courtroom where former President Donald Trump will be arraigned on Tuesday while video news cameras have been banned from providing live coverage.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/04/video-no-show-ny-judge-bans-live-courtroom-coverage-of-trump-arraignment/
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A lawyer tweets:
https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1643080865617002503
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Whole thing started due to someone not remaining standing...
Are you really this uninformed @Sighlass ?
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I certainly am, for I did not understand his post until you offered your analysis.
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Are you really this uninformed @Sighlass ?
Seriously?
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Are you really this uninformed @Sighlass ?
(https://i.imgur.com/l50Dmhq.gif)
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The 34 charges:
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/04/e2e16898-Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf
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Trump is facing 136 years for all 34 charges.
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So while all you goobers were busy chasing trump and his showboating we are about to lose the Wisconsin supreme county.
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So while all you goobers were busy chasing trump and his showboating we are about to lose the Wisconsin supreme county.
I voted
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So while all you goobers were busy chasing trump and his showboating we are about to lose the Wisconsin supreme county.
Supreme County?
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Trump is facing 136 years for all 34 charges.
There is a Keg party at the Moon Tower tonight. I have more off a chance of getting laid then Trump has of getting convicted. But then Trump has laid more track than me. But I have paid a lot less for the train ride.
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BAJSAN
(Bring A Joint Smoke All Night) out on @Gefn's back porch, tonight only.
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Supreme County?
Sorry, court.
I'm a little tired of losing elections here. :shrug:
Is everyone just distracted by this Trump sideshow or what? We do nothing but lose with him.
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Sorry, court.
I'm a little tired of losing elections here. :shrug:
Is everyone just distracted by this Trump sideshow or what? We do nothing but lose with him.
Not that distracted, and one race in WI is a tad obscure for someone like me here in TX. We have our own distraction here in TX including the day to day news of the results of a porous border, so that tends to fill our news cycles.
I did see in the news it was a loss, and gives the dims the WI SC. I am pro-life, but still have to say Dobbs is about the only tool the dims have left in their arsenal to appeal to moderates. The GOP needs to address that, or we might have a repeat of an election of lowered expectations.
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Not that distracted, and one race in WI is a tad obscure for someone like me here in TX. We have our own distraction here in TX including the day to day news of the results of a porous border, so that tends to fill our news cycles.
I did see in the news it was a loss, and gives the dims the WI SC. I am pro-life, but still have to say Dobbs is about the only tool the dims have left in their arsenal to appeal to moderates. The GOP needs to address that, or we might have a repeat of an election of lowered expectations.
There were a couple of elections yesterday and believe at least the two I saw went liberal. We are so incredibly screwed.
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Sorry, court.
Sorry,I should have recognized what you meant. Guess I was more tired than I thought.
I'm a little tired of losing elections here. :shrug:
Is everyone just distracted by this Trump sideshow or what? We do nothing but lose with him.
Trump is the ONLY chance we have of making ANY changes in the way we are being RULED. We haven't be LED since Reagan.
If you need radical change,and that is the ONLY thing that can save America,we are going to need a radical President that cares about NOTHING more than he cares about how he is going to be written about in the history books,and his obsession is being written about as "the President that saved America".
He can't be bought,he can't be bribed,and he can't be blackmailed. On top of that,he owes the professional thiefs we call "career politicians" Diddly-Squat.
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Trump is the ONLY chance we have of making ANY changes in the way we are being RULED. We haven't be LED since Reagan.
Bullshit, we have done nothing but lose with Trump, repeatedly. I'm tired of it, personally.
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There were a couple of elections yesterday and believe at least the two I saw went liberal. We are so incredibly screwed.
@mrpotatohead
Well,it is awful hard to win elections when it is the opposition that counts the ballots and monitors the polling places.
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@mrpotatohead
Well,it is awful hard to win elections when it is the opposition that counts the ballots and monitors the polling places.
That's just a bleep excuse. Find something else, not every election is fraudulent.
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@mrpotatohead
Well,it is awful hard to win elections when it is the opposition that counts the ballots and monitors the polling places.
True @sneakypete that is why those conservatives who can need to get involved at their local precincts.
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Bullshit, we have done nothing but lose with Trump, repeatedly. I'm tired of it, personally.
Ditto
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That's just a bleep excuse. Find something else, not every election is fraudulent.
I believe this one. Dobbs decison has been so highly misaligned that it has been the most faux but effective campaign issues of he past 20 years. The GOP failed miserably in dealing with it.
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I believe this one. Dobbs decison has been so highly misaligned that it has been the most faux but effective campaign issues of he past 20 years. The GOP failed miserably in dealing with it.
Abortion and “MAGA Republicans” have been used quite effectively against the GOP
Will it work forever? Probably not. But it’s working now
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While MAGA are distracted by Trump's circus, the Dems are actually winning elections.
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That's just a bleep excuse. Find something else, not every election is fraudulent.
Certainly not! But the ones in places that determine outcomes surely are.
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Certainly not! But the ones in places that determine outcomes surely are.
If we keep relying on this excuse, we'll keep losing.
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If we keep relying on this excuse, we'll keep losing.
If we don't fix the problem (fraudulent elections) we will never win again!
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If we don't fix the problem (fraudulent elections) we will never win again!
Was last night a fraudulent election in Wisconsin? We lost by like 11 points.
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Bullshit, we have done nothing but lose with Trump, repeatedly. I'm tired of it, personally.
I disagree; being energy independent isn't losing. An election was stolen period. You're not going to change my mind on that. The fix was in the minute every DEM candidate stepped down except Brandon who had less electoral votes than others...same time COVID hit and the rest is history.
Yes I have some issues with Trump but he also had to battle a liberal Congress and corrupt DOJ and still had us turned in a more positive direction. He's still battling the leftists they don't want him to run -- what does that tell you??
No worries though @Weird Tolkienish Figure I don't think he's going to escape the charges against him, so it is doubtful he'll be the nominee.
Yes, I'm tired of the GOP losing as well, but if we aren't able to remedy the leftists stealing elections and replace a corrupt DOJ they WILL continue to lose and we will continue to see our Republic crumble.
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If we keep relying on this excuse, we'll keep losing.
Have you noticed only when the GOP loses, the elections are fraudulent?
Was it election fraud that was responsible for the election and reelection success of Kemp, DeSantis, Noem, Abbott, our Senator Ron Johnson?
What voter fraud was responsible for Republicans picking up 14 seats in the House in 2020?
I’m not saying voter fraud doesn’t happen. And I do agree that there is a lot that happened in the 2020 election that does need exploring and correcting
But if people entrenched themselves in the excuse that Republicans only lose because of voter fraud, then we’re going to continue to lose
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Was last night a fraudulent election in Wisconsin? We lost by like 11 points.
It appears those more conservative ballot initiatives passed so that is good news
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Have you noticed only when the GOP loses, the elections are fraudulent?
Was it election fraud that was responsible for the election and reelection success of Kemp, DeSantis, Noem, Abbott, our Senator Ron Johnson?
What voter fraud was responsible for Republicans picking up 14 seats in the House in 2020?
I’m not saying voter fraud doesn’t happen. And I do agree that there is a lot that happened in the 2020 election that does need exploring and correcting
But if people entrenched themselves in the excuse that Republicans only lose because of voter fraud, then we’re going to continue to lose
Pay closer attention -- DeSantis had to fight a fraudulent election and eventually won by less than 1% to a crack head who eventually got into legal drama shortly after.
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Have you noticed only when the GOP loses, the elections are fraudulent?
Was it election fraud that was responsible for the election and reelection success of Kemp, DeSantis, Noem, Abbott, our Senator Ron Johnson?
What voter fraud was responsible for Republicans picking up 14 seats in the House in 2020?
I’m not saying voter fraud doesn’t happen. And I do agree that there is a lot that happened in the 2020 election that does need exploring and correcting
But if people entrenched themselves in the excuse that Republicans only lose because of voter fraud, then we’re going to continue to lose
Exactly.
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Unless the GOP comes up with some kind of strategy of dealing with Dobbs, and adjusting the narrative, the dims are going to keep shoving the issue down our throats.
And we will see more and more results like last November, and last night.
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It appears those more conservative ballot initiatives passed so that is good news
That I haven't heard about.
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Part of Bragg charges include 30k payment to doorman trying to sell Trump love child story
5–6 minutes
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg announced during a speech on Tuesday that the indictment against former President Trump included charges over an alleged “catch and kill” scheme that involved a former Trump Tower doorman who claimed to have information about Trump’s love child.
Bragg’s office claimed in a statement of facts filed with the court that from August 2015 to December 2017, Trump and his then-lawyer Michael Cohen orchestrated a so-called “catch and kill” scheme with David Pecker, who was the CEO of magazine publisher American Media, Inc. (AMI). They are accused of concealing negative stories about Trump.
This is an old unproven story that is being trotted out once again by Bragg. The filing lists previous allegations that American Media paid former Trump Tower doorman Dino Sajudin $30,000 after he claimed to know of an affair between Trump and an unnamed woman which led to the birth of an illegitimate child out of wedlock.
more
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/04/05/part-of-bragg-charges-include-30k-payment-to-doorman-trying-to-sell-trump-love-child-story-1347344/
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Bullshit, we have done nothing but lose with Trump, repeatedly. I'm tired of it, personally.
How are you defining "winning"? Is it simply an "R" election victory?
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How are you defining "winning"? Is it simply an "R" election victory?
It would be nice if Republicans won elections. Yes. Conservatives preferably. Are you saying this court in WI is made up of "RINOS"? So I shouldn't care? Because libs on Twitter are definitely celebrating last night.
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Pay closer attention -- DeSantis had to fight a fraudulent election and eventually won by less than 1% to a crack head who eventually got into legal drama shortly after.
A close election does not mean fraud
And what fraud did DeSantis use in 2022 to blow Crist out of the water? How about Younkin and Winsome Sears in 2021 to win VA?
We have to stop using this as an excuse. Hillary Clinton and her supporters also claimed the 2016 election was fraudulent and stolen when they lost. Hillary Clinton made the false claim that many thousands of ballots were thrown out in the black communities in Wi
We all hate to lose. And the fraudulent election excuse is very comforting verses people just rejected a candidate we supported. But it is crippling the GOP
If we want to enact much-needed election reforms, we have to win those elections
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It would be nice if Republicans won elections. Yes. Conservatives preferably. Are you saying this court in WI is made up of "RINOS"? So I shouldn't care? Because libs on Twitter are definitely celebrating last night.
It would be nice if there were more conservatives who ran for election. That's one of the problems.
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It would be nice if there were more conservatives who ran for election. That's one of the problems.
Dan Kelly was very conservative. It was the abortion issue plus being tied to Trump that cost him
I’m not saying people should give up their principles. But I think a lot of these candidates are being tied to Donald Trump and very effectively.
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Was last night a fraudulent election in Wisconsin? We lost by like 11 points.
Judging by what has happened in recent statewide races there, I would say it very likely was but I live in Texas so I can't tell for sure.
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Sorry, court.
I'm a little tired of losing elections here. :shrug:
Is everyone just distracted by this Trump sideshow or what? We do nothing but lose with him.
GOP Lawmaker Wins Wisconsin Senate Seat, Creating Supermajority
US News, Apr 5, 2023
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Republican state Rep. Dan Knodl defeated a Democratic attorney to win an open Senate seat in Tuesday’s special election, creating a GOP supermajority in the chamber that could be used to impeach Democratic Gov. Tony Evers and other office holders.
Knodl defeated Jodi Habush Sinykin in the 8th District race. The seat represents Milwaukee’s northern suburbs and has leaned red for years. It came open after longtime Republican incumbent Alberta Darling decided to retire in November. Evers called a special election to fill the position.
Knodl’s victory gives Senate Republicans 22 votes in the 33-seat chamber. That’s enough to override a gubernatorial veto in that house. A successful override takes a two-thirds vote in the Senate and Assembly, however, and Assembly Republicans remain two seats shy of the 66 they need.
Knodl’s win also gives Senate Republicans enough votes to convict a civil officer, including the governor, other constitutional officers such as the attorney general and judges in impeachment trials. Knodl has said he probably would not support an attempt to impeach Evers.
The state constitution says civil officers can be impeached, including the governor, lieutenant governor and judges. A February analysis from the Legislative Reference Bureau concluded that other constitutional officers such as the attorney general and the state schools superintendent can be impeached as well.
More:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/wisconsin/articles/2023-04-05/gop-lawmaker-wins-wis-senate-seat-creating-supermajority
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GOP Lawmaker Wins Wisconsin Senate Seat, Creating Supermajority
US News, Apr 5, 2023
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Republican state Rep. Dan Knodl defeated a Democratic attorney to win an open Senate seat in Tuesday’s special election, creating a GOP supermajority in the chamber that could be used to impeach Democratic Gov. Tony Evers and other office holders.
Knodl defeated Jodi Habush Sinykin in the 8th District race. The seat represents Milwaukee’s northern suburbs and has leaned red for years. It came open after longtime Republican incumbent Alberta Darling decided to retire in November. Evers called a special election to fill the position.
Knodl’s victory gives Senate Republicans 22 votes in the 33-seat chamber. That’s enough to override a gubernatorial veto in that house. A successful override takes a two-thirds vote in the Senate and Assembly, however, and Assembly Republicans remain two seats shy of the 66 they need.
Knodl’s win also gives Senate Republicans enough votes to convict a civil officer, including the governor, other constitutional officers such as the attorney general and judges in impeachment trials. Knodl has said he probably would not support an attempt to impeach Evers.
The state constitution says civil officers can be impeached, including the governor, lieutenant governor and judges. A February analysis from the Legislative Reference Bureau concluded that other constitutional officers such as the attorney general and the state schools superintendent can be impeached as well.
More:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/wisconsin/articles/2023-04-05/gop-lawmaker-wins-wis-senate-seat-creating-supermajority
Thank you for this RiV. Had no idea about this.
Maybe they could change the constitution in WI to end the election of Supreme Court justices? Ours are appointed on a federal level for a reason.
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A close election does not mean fraud
And what fraud did DeSantis use in 2022 to blow Crist out of the water? How about Younkin and Winsome Sears in 2021 to win VA?
We have to stop using this as an excuse. Hillary Clinton and her supporters also claimed the 2016 election was fraudulent and stolen when they lost. Hillary Clinton made the false claim that many thousands of ballots were thrown out in the black communities in Wi
We all hate to lose. And the fraudulent election excuse is very comforting verses people just rejected a candidate we supported. But it is crippling the GOP
If we want to enact much-needed election reforms, we have to win those elections
@LMAO we need to ensure election integrity period. So who in Congress is doing anything, who at your local level is doing anything, which red states are doing anything? Ronna McDaniels, what is she doing about election integrity??
Meanwhile, the DEMS continue to steal elections period...fraudulent elections are mounting and the GOP sits twiddling their thumbs.
As far as DeSantis he had already been in office and proved himself against Crist who had already been in office and disproved himself. Crist was a lousy governor who has changed his party affiliation several time. Also, DeSantis and other have worked on election integrity in FL.
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It would be nice if Republicans won elections. Yes. Conservatives preferably. Are you saying this court in WI is made up of "RINOS"? So I shouldn't care? Because libs on Twitter are definitely celebrating last night.
Here comes forced unionization
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Thank you for this RiV. Had no idea about this.
Maybe they could change the constitution in WI to end the election of Supreme Court justices? Ours are appointed on a federal level for a reason.
That’s the one bright spot in Wisconsin besides the ballot initiatives. Our governor is a Democrat but we have a very strong GOP state Senate majority.
A different story in Michigan and Minnesota.
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Here comes forced unionization
Do Dem voters even work though?
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Are you saying this court in WI is made up of "RINOS"? So I shouldn't care? Because libs on Twitter are definitely celebrating last night.
No. The loss of a seat on the court is significant. But, I don't know enough about the race to comment beyond this. Was there a dividing issue in play?
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Do Dem voters even work though?
Yes
In the public sector, anyways
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Thank you for this RiV. Had no idea about this.
Maybe they could change the constitution in WI to end the election of Supreme Court justices? Ours are appointed on a federal level for a reason.
You're welcome and :crossed:
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@LMAO we need to ensure election integrity period. So who in Congress is doing anything, who at your local level is doing anything, which red states are doing anything? Ronna McDaniels, what is she doing about election integrity??
Meanwhile, the DEMS continue to steal elections period...fraudulent elections are mounting and the GOP sits twiddling their thumbs.
As far as DeSantis he had already been in office and proved himself against Crist who had already been in office and disproved himself. Crist was a lousy governor who has changed his party affiliation several time. Also, DeSantis and other have worked on election integrity in FL.
I am all for election integrity. People have to have faith that the winner of the election is the true winner, and folks are losing faith in our elections in this country.
But what we see happening is whatever side loses, they claim they were robbed in someway. This has been going on since 2000
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"We the American people need to stand behind this guy. There's not another Republican that I can think of who can fight back and fight back this way...I like others, I really do...But at this time, at this moment...He's the guy." -
@marklevinshow
Geezz...look who's reading my posts! /s :laugh:
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Speaking of elections, have folks had a chance to see what the people in Chicago did?
Oh boy
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Can Wisconsin GOP supermajority impeach/remove Justices?
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Speaking of elections, have folks had a chance to see what the people in Chicago did?
Oh boy
This ought to be a wake up call to every corporation, and honest hard working citizen there to get the hell out.
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Can Wisconsin GOP supermajority impeach/remove Justices?
Maybe
But you would need a reason to impeach and to remove.
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No. The loss of a seat on the court is significant. But, I don't know enough about the race to comment beyond this. Was there a dividing issue in play?
The fact that none of us have any idea about this race should tell you that "our side" is distracted with nonsense.
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This ought to be a wake up call to every corporation, and honest hard working citizen there to get the hell out.
No kidding
Have you read the new mayors political positions and plans? He’s gonna make Lori Lightfoot look conservative.
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Maybe
But you would need a reason to impeach and to remove.
Haha, Alvin Bragg says otherwise IMO. If they don't need a reason to put a former President in jail, we don't need a reason to impeach and remove. Tit for tat.
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The fact that none of us have any idea about this race should tell you that "our side" is distracted with nonsense.
Honestly, would you have noticed a single off-schedule state only race here in Texas either?
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It would be nice if Republicans won elections.
It would be. But, I think it's also time for a Republican Council of Trent ----- in fact, I think we're smack dab in the middle of one; although too many are skipping the meetings.
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I was wondering where she was..
Melania M.I.A. Former first lady nowhere to be found at Trump's Mar-a-Lago speech
Former first lady Melania Trump was noticeably absent from Mar-a-Lago’s ballroom Tuesday night.
Former first lady Melania Trump was noticeably absent from Mar-a-Lago’s ballroom Tuesday night as her husband, former President Donald Trump, made his first public comments hours after becoming the first commander-in-chief in US history to be arraigned on criminal charges.
“I have a great family and they’ve done a fantastic job and we appreciate it very much. They’ve gone through a lot,” the 76-year-old told around 400 supporters at his Palm Beach, Fla., residence and club.
“I have a son here [Don Jr.] who has done a great job, another son here [Eric] who has done a great job, and Ivanka,” added Trump, referring to three of his four adult children.
“And Barron will be great someday,” the former president went on, shouting out his teenage son with third wife Melania. “He is tall and he is smart.”
The former first lady was not singled out for praise.
more
https://nypost.com/2023/04/04/melania-trump-skips-donalds-post-arrest-mar-a-lago-speech/
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The fact that none of us have any idea about this race should tell you that "our side" is distracted with nonsense.
I knew Dan Kelly was going to lose. Tons of money poured into the state from outside interests for the more liberal judge. Plus the ads ran against him were very effective. They revolved around the abortion issue and a couple ads that defined him as an “extremist Trump Republican”
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(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Trump-2.jpg?quality=75&strip=all)
(From left) Victor Knavs, Donald Trump Jr. and his fiancée, Kimberly Guilfoyle, and Tiffany Trump and her husband, Michael Boulos.
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Honestly, would you have noticed a single off-schedule state only race here in Texas either?
Agreed
But it doesn’t look good for 2024.
But I do believe as far as the Senate goes, Manchin and Tester are vulnerable
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Honestly, would you have noticed a single off-schedule state only race here in Texas either?
Well I actually got invested in WI because it's unusual that they elect their SC justices, but also during the recall elections of a decade they were in the news. But losing the SC at a state level is pretty huge IMO.
The libs on Twitter are calling this "the most important election of the year" which to me seems like BS maybe, but our side gets too invested in Trump drama. Shiny things.
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Well I actually got invested in WI because it's unusual that they elect their SC justices, but also during the recall elections of a decade they were in the news. But losing the SC at a state level is pretty huge IMO.
The libs on Twitter are calling this "the most important election of the year" which to me seems like BS maybe, but our side gets too invested in Trump drama. Shiny things.
I think you may have answered this question before, but are you a fellow Cheesehead?
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For most Americans, the game is over when the game clock runs down to 0. When a person plays a sport, when the game is over, the game is over. The winner is the winner. The loser is the loser. If it's a tie, neither team is happy.
For lawyers, the game never ends. If they loose they can appeal. If they don't like what the judge or the opposition is doing, they can file motions. If they lose the appeal, they can appeal to an even higher court. If they lose their appeals, they can appeal on different grounds. There is no game clock.
As a nation, we are no longer a nation of athletic participants who are trained to accept loss with grace, and work twice as hard to win the next match. We are a nation of lawyers who do not accept defeat and move on. We keep re-arguing the previous contest. There is no acceptance and moving on. We stay stuck in a moment and don't move forward.
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(From left) Victor Knavs, Donald Trump Jr. and his fiancée, Kimberly Guilfoyle, and Tiffany Trump and her husband, Michael Boulos.
Wow, Guilfoyle has chunked out. Considering the Trump history of dealing with wives, she'd better renew that gym membership.
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I think you may have answered this question before, but are you a fellow Cheesehead?
Nope.
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For most Americans, the game is over when the game clock runs down to 0. When a person plays a sport, when the game is over, the game is over. The winner is the winner. The loser is the loser. If it's a tie, neither team is happy.
For lawyers, the game never ends. If they loose they can appeal. If they don't like what the judge or the opposition is doing, they can file motions. If they lose the appeal, they can appeal to an even higher court. If they lose their appeals, they can appeal on different grounds. There is no game clock.
As a nation, we are no longer a nation of athletic participants who are trained to accept loss with grace, and work twice as hard to win the next match. We are a nation of lawyers who do not accept defeat and move on. We keep re-arguing the previous contest. There is no acceptance and moving on. We stay stuck in a moment and don't move forward.
Yup
This is similar to the Covid argument. We see here folks arguing the past. What’s the plan going forward so that the mistakes that were made never happen again? I personally prefer Kristi Noem’s Covid response versus either Trump’s or DeSantis.
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Wow, Guilfoyle has chunked out. Considering the Trump history of dealing with wives, she'd better renew that gym membership.
I think she’s always been curvy
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Nope.
Two types of ads were run against Kelly. His abortion stance, which is out of the main stream, and Trump.
I did vote for him, but I knew he was gonna lose. Judge Janet has a very weak on crime record.
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I think she’s always been curvy
Yeah, but I can definitley see some cheesecake impact on that figure.
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Yeah, but I can definitley see some cheesecake impact on that figure.
Don’t they say the camera adds 10 pounds
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The fact that none of us have any idea about this race should tell you that "our side" is distracted with nonsense.
Truth be told, I haven't the time or the inclination to follow every race in the fifty states. I rely on others to bring contests to the forefront for debate and assistance.
I also think the dismantling of the rule of law and the codification of election interference from every corner of our Republic is a critical issue ---- much, much more than a distraction or nonsense. But, I also understand that others just want it back under the rug,. :shrug:
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I just have to shake my head of what the voters in Chicago just did
Talk about going from the frying pan straight into the fire
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That's just a bleep excuse. Find something else, not every election is fraudulent.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
Awww,did I hurts your little feewings by stepping on your Trump Hurts?
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Ditto
@LMAO @Weird Tolkienish Figure
Personally,I am a little surprised both of you haven't started pushing the "Jeb Bush" train down the tracks. He's more your style,although not having mama Bush to tell him what to say,think,and do has kinda handicapped him.
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Was last night a fraudulent election in Wisconsin? We lost by like 11 points.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
When was the last time,IF EVER,that Wisconsin elected a conservative candidate?
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I just have to shake my head of what the voters in Chicago just did
Talk about going from the frying pan straight into the fire
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More like what the voters didn't do. There was only a 33% turnout.
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Pay closer attention -- DeSantis had to fight a fraudulent election and eventually won by less than 1% to a crack head who eventually got into legal drama shortly after.
@libertybele
That is so absurd that if you tried to tell it to someone who didn't know it actually happened,they wouldn't believe you.
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@Weird Tolkienish Figure
When was the last time,IF EVER,that Wisconsin elected a conservative candidate?
Wisconsin went for Reagan twice. Elected Scott Walker. Maybe not always a conservative candidate. Wisconsin has voted for Republicans.
And did you know that Wisconsin went to Trump in 2016?
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This is an old unproven story that is being trotted out once again by Bragg. The filing lists previous allegations that American Media paid former Trump Tower doorman Dino Sajudin $30,000 after he claimed to know of an affair between Trump and an unnamed woman which led to the birth of an illegitimate child out of wedlock.
@mystery-ak
30 grand might be a lot of money to thee,me,and the doorman,but Trump probably thought it was cheaper to pay the doorman the 30 grand than it would be to fight it in court.
Not to mention all the lost time he would have spend it court,which would have obviously cost him more than 30 grand.
Sometimes reality just sucks.
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Thank you for this RiV. Had no idea about this.
Maybe they could change the constitution in WI to end the election of Supreme Court justices? Ours are appointed on a federal level for a reason.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
I didn't even know that was possible.
Nor did I know that there were so many elected Republican officials in Wisconsin.
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I am all for election integrity. People have to have faith that the winner of the election is the true winner, and folks are losing faith in our elections in this country.
But what we see happening is whatever side loses, they claim they were robbed in someway. This has been going on since 2000
@LMAO You misspelled "forever".
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I was wondering where she was..
Melania M.I.A. Former first lady nowhere to be found at Trump's Mar-a-Lago speech
“I have a great family and they’ve done a fantastic job and we appreciate it very much. They’ve gone through a lot,” the 76-year-old told around 400 supporters at his Palm Beach, Fla., residence and club.
“I have a son here [Don Jr.] who has done a great job, another son here [Eric] who has done a great job, and Ivanka,” added Trump, referring to three of his four adult children.
“And Barron will be great someday,” the former president went on, shouting out his teenage son with third wife Melania. “He is tall and he is smart.”
The former first lady was not singled out for praise.
FWIW @mystery-ak Trump was talking about how well run his companies are and thanked his children for working so hard making this happen. I was more surprised that he thanked Tiffany than not mentioning Melania in this context. :laugh:
They're fine .... on their way to dinner a couple of nights ago:
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/NYPICHPDPICT000009017186.jpg)
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For most Americans, the game is over when the game clock runs down to 0. When a person plays a sport, when the game is over, the game is over. The winner is the winner. The loser is the loser. If it's a tie, neither team is happy.
For lawyers, the game never ends. If they loose they can appeal. If they don't like what the judge or the opposition is doing, they can file motions. If they lose the appeal, they can appeal to an even higher court. If they lose their appeals, they can appeal on different grounds. There is no game clock.
As a nation, we are no longer a nation of athletic participants who are trained to accept loss with grace, and work twice as hard to win the next match. We are a nation of lawyers who do not accept defeat and move on. We keep re-arguing the previous contest. There is no acceptance and moving on. We stay stuck in a moment and don't move forward.
@DefiantMassRINO
Sure it does. Shut off the money flowing into their coffers,and the "game" shuts down instantly.
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Was it election fraud that was responsible for the election and reelection success of Kemp
Yes
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I just have to shake my head of what the voters in Chicago just did
Talk about going from the frying pan straight into the fire
@LMAO
Voters do what they always do,vote in their own selfish self-interest.
Ok,that is an exaggeration. Probably no more than 80 percent do that.
Still,that makes it a steep hill for "rational" to climb.
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@mystery-ak
30 grand might be a lot of money to thee,me,and the doorman,but Trump probably thought it was cheaper to pay the doorman the 30 grand than it would be to fight it in court.
Not to mention all the lost time he would have spend it court,which would have obviously cost him more than 30 grand.
Sometimes reality just sucks.
Agree. @sneakypete Every wealthy, public person has a Nuisance Lawsuit Account. Except, of course, members of Congress ----- they have unconditional access to our wallets.
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Wisconsin went for Reagan twice. Elected Scott Walker. Maybe not always a conservative candidate. Wisconsin has voted for Republicans.
And did you know that Wisconsin went to Trump in 2016?
@LMAO
I admit to being wrong about this after another poster wrote that the Republicans were on the move in Wis.
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@LMAO
Voters do what they always do,vote in their own selfish self-interest.
Ok,that is an exaggeration. Probably no more than 80 percent do that.
Still,that makes it a steep hill for "rational" to climb.
Where's the self interest in living in a violent, crime infested hellhole?
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FWIW...
Alex Bruesewitz
@alexbruesewitz
I just learned last night that @JusticeDanKelly thought he could win without Trump’s support in the great state of Wisconsin.
Wisconsin is my home state and Trump is beloved by the people.
Foolish that Dan didn’t want Trump’s help — guess we know why he lost now.
8:43 AM · Apr 5, 2023
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Maybe the Stormy Daniels episode still has her a bit pissed. Her lack of being there may imply the Donald did indeed have an affair.
Or, she had nothing to wear with her "I really don't care, do u?" jacket. 88devil
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DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
Daniel Kelly was a Scott Walker appointee
Both are GOP establishment
Daniel Kelly has now lost 2 races for Supreme Court, both times by 10 points
Ron Johnson just won a Senate seat running on a platform MAGA
We know the recipe for WI
It’s MAGA
They just need MAGA candidates
8:17 AM · Apr 5, 2023
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FWIW...
Alex Bruesewitz
@alexbruesewitz
I just learned last night that @JusticeDanKelly thought he could win without Trump’s support in the great state of Wisconsin.
Wisconsin is my home state and Trump is beloved by the people.
Foolish that Dan didn’t want Trump’s help — guess we know why he lost now.
8:43 AM · Apr 5, 2023
Yet, he lost with Trump’s endorsement in 2020
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Bullshit, we have done nothing but lose with Trump, repeatedly. I'm tired of it, personally.
An anecdotal point... In the non-partisan Green Bay mayoral race the conservative challenger, Chad Weininger, was labeled a MAGA conservative in all the TV and radio spots. Of course, he lost.
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An anecdotal point... In the non-partisan Green Bay mayoral race the conservative challenger, Chad Weininger, was labeled a MAGA conservative in all the TV and radio spots. Of course, he lost.
One of the commercials in the supreme court race did have Trump’s endorsement of Kelly from 2020 as part of the commercial. And in the background there was a scene from January 6 basically implying that Judge Kelly was there
Unfair? Yes, But it worked.
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Truth be told, I haven't the time or the inclination to follow every race in the fifty states. I rely on others to bring contests to the forefront for debate and assistance.
I also think the dismantling of the rule of law and the codification of election interference from ever corner of our Republic is a critical issue ---- much, much more than a distraction or nonsense. But, I also understand that others just want it back under the rug,. :shrug:
Ditto! Especially the part I highlighted. Without an honest rule of law NOTHING else matters. We are missing that currently.
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FWIW @mystery-ak Trump was talking about how well run his companies are and thanked his children for working so hard making this happen. I was more surprised that he thanked Tiffany than not mentioning Melania in this context. :laugh:
They're fine .... on their way to dinner a couple of nights ago:
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/03/NYPICHPDPICT000009017186.jpg)
Yes, he was referring to his children, and I didn't really even miss his mention of Melania but I too was surprised by his mention of Tiffany...perhaps her moral support. (Her new husband has very deep pockets and connections as well).
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Ditto! Especially the part I highlighted. Without an honest rule of law NOTHING else matters. We are missing that currently.
I second that Ditto!!
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Ditto! Especially the part I highlighted. Without an honest rule of law NOTHING else matters. We are missing that currently.
And what would “an honest rule of law” look like?
People like Alvin Bragg were elected. People like Kim Gardner were elected. People like Keith Ellison were elected.
The only chance is to find people who truly believe “no one is above the law”
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And what would “an honest rule of law” look like?
People like Alvin Bragg were elected. People like Kim Gardner were elected. People like Keith Ellison were elected.
The only chance is to find people who truly believe “no one is above the law”
It would look like one in which the constitution was strictly adhered to as written. People like Alvin Bragg would not have a license to practice law for long, if ever.
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Yet, he lost with Trump’s endorsement in 2020
Gee, maybe the candidate's flawed?
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Gee, maybe the candidate's flawed?
Then why did Trump endorse him in 2020?
And the Democrats use that 2020 endorsement against him then and in 2023 and he lost both times
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It would look like one in which the constitution was strictly adhered to as written. People like Alvin Bragg would not have a license to practice law for long, if ever.
Fair enough
He could lose his law license for malpractice.
And who do you think the voters of New York City would replace him with? Look what the voters in Chicago replaced Lori Lightfoot with.
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I listened to Glenn Beck this morning and one of his guest was Alan Dershowitz. In a nutshell Trump will never get a fair trial in Manhattan and the trial should be moved outside of Manhattan. Secondly, the charges are very weak; but again, with a judge and jury that hates Trump so much it's not going to go well.
Just my opinion here; I'm expecting jail time for Trump for at least 5 to 10 years.
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I listened to Glenn Beck this morning and one of his guest was Alan Dershowitz. In a nutshell Trump will never get a fair trial in Manhattan and the trial should be moved outside of Manhattan. Secondly, the charges are very weak; but again, with a judge and jury that hates Trump so much it's not going to go well.
Just my opinion here; I'm expecting jail time for Trump for at least 5 to 10 years.
My precarious prediction is he loses in Manhattan but wins on appeal
I just don’t see him serving jail time. But, it is New York City, and the best way to keep yourself out of jail in New York City is to commit a violent act.
By the way, I like your tag line. I pray for that, also
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:silly:
ABC’s Hostin: Trump Will Likely Serve Time in Jail for Manhattan Case
ABC legal analyst Sunny Hostin told her co-hosts Wednesday on ABC’s “The View” that former President Donald Trump will likely serve time in prison as a result of the case brought by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/04/05/abcs-hostin-trump-will-likely-serve-time-in-jail-for-manhattan-case/
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I listened to Glenn Beck this morning and one of his guest was Alan Dershowitz. In a nutshell Trump will never get a fair trial in Manhattan and the trial should be moved outside of Manhattan. Secondly, the charges are very weak; but again, with a judge and jury that hates Trump so much it's not going to go well.
Just my opinion here; I'm expecting jail time for Trump for at least 5 to 10 years.
Nah. I expect he might lose in NYC and suffer convictions. But He will appeal. Sooner or later it will go federal, and out of the reach of New York, and it will turn around. He will skate. It will just take a while
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Nah. I expect he might lose in NYC and suffer convictions. But He will appeal. Sooner or later it will go federal, and out of the reach of New York, and it will turn around. He will skate. It will just take a while
Why would it go to a federal court? This is a matter of NY state law.
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Why would it go to a federal court? This is a matter of NY state law.
Sooner or later, if he gets no justice through New York appellate system, it moves to federal in my understanding.
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Sooner or later, if he gets no justice through New York appellate system, it moves to federal in my understanding.
How so? If it's a matter of a prosecution under NY state law, there has to be some constitutional hook that gets it into federal court. I'm not seeing that hook.
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Sooner or later, if he gets no justice through New York appellate system, it moves to federal in my understanding.
From my understanding he could appeal to the NY supreme court which would be a final ruling but then it could be appealed to SCOTUS. One, they would have to agree to hear the case which is doubtful because they looked the other way after the election was stolen.
I just don't see things going well for Trump. The judge and jury are already stacked against him.
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How so? If it's a matter of a prosecution under NY state law, there has to be some constitutional hook that gets it into federal court. I'm not seeing that hook.
If it is a political prosecution, the leverage would be there... If he is not afforded a fair prosecution, and a jury of his peers... If the table is tilted by politics, then there ya go.
Now, if the indictment is all there is, I don't think it will go that far. If that's all they have, they may well convict him, but his appeal within New York should be enough, because the only way they get this done is to railroad him, And any unbiased court will see that.
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If it is a political prosecution, the leverage would be there... If he is not afforded a fair prosecution, and a jury of his peers... If the table is tilted by politics, then there ya go.
Now, if the indictment is all there is, I don't think it will go that far. If that's all they have, they may well convict him, but his appeal within New York should be enough, because the only way they get this done is to railroad him, And any unbiased court will see that.
That's just it @roamer the judge and those in Manhattan hate Trump so they are very biased -- charges are weak and listening to other lawyers the case would normally be thrown out. They are out to prevent him from running again period and they are going to do whatever it takes to do so.
If you get a chance listen to Trump's speech last night at Mar a Lago -- it explains a lot.
Here's part of his speech:
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,495782.msg2807619.html#msg2807619
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DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
Daniel Kelly was a Scott Walker appointee
Both are GOP establishment
Daniel Kelly has now lost 2 races for Supreme Court, both times by 10 points
Ron Johnson just won a Senate seat running on a platform MAGA
We know the recipe for WI
It’s MAGA
They just need MAGA candidates
8:17 AM · Apr 5, 2023
Oops…
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/shows/meetthepress/blog/rcna43406
MILWAUKEE — Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., distanced his campaign from former President Donald Trump on Tuesday, sidestepping questions about whether he would invite Trump to stump for him this fall.
“To me, this election is about Wisconsin and about 2022. And so from my standpoint, I’ve never asked for anybody’s endorsement. I’m happy to have people’s endorsement, obviously I want as much support as possible,” Johnson told reporters after an immigration event, not referring to Trump by name. “But I’m running as the candidate and I’m trying to appeal to as many Wisconsin voters as possible so we recognize that under Democrat [sic] control, this has been a disaster.”
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American women complain, "No one wants to date anymore?" "Nobody wants to get married anymore!?"
After ME TOO and the Trump Circus, I cannot foresee any successful male having anything to do with any female.
If you are a millionaire (and especially billionaire), no pictures, no dates, no elevator, no nothing with any female.
I am not in a 'high status' success group and even I look at every female as a landmine, to be avoided with caution.
Even if the woman is the sexual aggressor, you always have to wonder if it is a setup.
I cannot imagine how all of this is going to end for women in America?
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Most likely, the underlying criminal conduct Bragg will be relying upon is to make the argument that the initial payments by Cohen and by the publisher constituted illegal campaign contributions, the acceptance of which was a class A misdemeanor under NY Election Law § 14-126(5), which provides as follows:
Any person who knowingly and willfully contributes, accepts or aids or participates in the acceptance of a contribution in an amount exceeding an applicable maximum specified in this article shall be guilty of a class A misdemeanor.
The payments were $130,000, $150,000, and $30,000 (to the doorman), which are almost certainly in excess of the NY campaign contribution limits for non family members.
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If it is a political prosecution, the leverage would be there... If he is not afforded a fair prosecution, and a jury of his peers... If the table is tilted by politics, then there ya go.
Now, if the indictment is all there is, I don't think it will go that far. If that's all they have, they may well convict him, but his appeal within New York should be enough, because the only way they get this done is to railroad him, And any unbiased court will see that.
Where is the specific federal law that gives him access to federal court?
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Where is the specific federal law that gives him access to federal court?
A litigant who loses in a federal court of appeals, or in the highest court of a state, may file a petition for a "writ of certiorari," which is a document asking the Supreme Court to review the case. The Supreme Court, however, does not have to grant review.
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I hope someone reported this guy to the SS
DC’s ‘Blue Beetle’ Director Tweets Then Deletes Post Wishing for Donald Trump Assassination
The Warner Bros. DC universe of comic book movies is about to welcome the opening of “Blue Beetle” but fans are not welcoming a tweet by the film’s director, Ángel Manuel Soto, who said he hopes Donald Trump is assassinated like President Abraham Lincoln.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/04/05/dcs-blue-beetle-director-tweets-then-deletes-post-wishing-for-donald-trump-assassination/
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I hope someone reported this guy to the SS
DC’s ‘Blue Beetle’ Director Tweets Then Deletes Post Wishing for Donald Trump Assassination
The Warner Bros. DC universe of comic book movies is about to welcome the opening of “Blue Beetle” but fans are not welcoming a tweet by the film’s director, Ángel Manuel Soto, who said he hopes Donald Trump is assassinated like President Abraham Lincoln.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/04/05/dcs-blue-beetle-director-tweets-then-deletes-post-wishing-for-donald-trump-assassination/
And Hollywood wonders why they’re collapsing
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I hope someone reported this guy to the SS
DC’s ‘Blue Beetle’ Director Tweets Then Deletes Post Wishing for Donald Trump Assassination
The Warner Bros. DC universe of comic book movies is about to welcome the opening of “Blue Beetle” but fans are not welcoming a tweet by the film’s director, Ángel Manuel Soto, who said he hopes Donald Trump is assassinated like President Abraham Lincoln.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/04/05/dcs-blue-beetle-director-tweets-then-deletes-post-wishing-for-donald-trump-assassination/
As horrible as this is, I highly doubt anything is going to be done.
I fear for Trump's safety. I pray for his safety and physical and mental health. In his speech yesterday I noticed some breathing issues; he just seemed exhausted. At least the speech gave him an avenue to vent.
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Donald Trump Indictment TV Ratings Soar over Golden Globe, Oscars, Nightly News, Celebrity Apprentice
The television ratings of the Trump indictment soared to a 10.2 rating during the middle of Tuesday’s workday, surpassing many of the most popular shows on television.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/05/donald-trump-indictment-tv-ratings-soar-over-golden-globe-oscars-nightly-news-celebrity-apprentice/
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As horrible as this is, I highly doubt anything is going to be done.
I fear for Trump's safety. I pray for his safety and physical and mental health. In his speech yesterday I noticed some breathing issues; he just seemed exhausted. At least the speech gave him an avenue to vent.
That’s why I didn’t jump up on the myth that Donald Trump actually wants this. Yes, there is the emotional rush with his supporters and the donation in the poll numbers amongst his base.
Just the optics alone hurts him in the general election. Plus he has to defend himself in court and hire lawyers. It takes him off the campaign trail at times . And his family is being dragged through this, also
And his wife. Sure, she’ll put on a public façade that all is well and that she’s standing by her husband. But what goes on in private? What about what goes on in her mind?
You didn’t hear much from Malena Trump while she was First Lady. No trying to tell kids what they can eat. No claiming a co presidency status. I found his wife very likable.
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That's just it @roamer the judge and those in Manhattan hate Trump so they are very biased -- charges are weak and listening to other lawyers the case would normally be thrown out. They are out to prevent him from running again period and they are going to do whatever it takes to do so.
Well, sure. I believe it is bullshit, just by the indictment. The whole thing is nonsense. And if this judge allows the railroading, then the appeal gets him out of NYC and into the state courts... Where I believe it will fare way differently.
If you get a chance listen to Trump's speech last night at Mar a Lago -- it explains a lot.
I will not. I don't need to listen to his bullshit anymore than I need to listen to theirs.
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Where is the specific federal law that gives him access to federal court?
Beats me. I ain't a lawyer.
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Well, sure. I believe it is bullshit, just by the indictment. The whole thing is nonsense. And if this judge allows the railroading, then the appeal gets him out of NYC and into the state courts... Where I believe it will fare way differently.
I will not. I don't need to listen to his bullshit anymore than I need to listen to theirs.
Ok then. :beer:
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A litigant who loses in a federal court of appeals, or in the highest court of a state, may file a petition for a "writ of certiorari," which is a document asking the Supreme Court to review the case. The Supreme Court, however, does not have to grant review.
Yes, but there must be a constitutional basis under which the Supreme Court would exercise jurisdiction. That means that there has to be some federal constitutional or legal basis to appeal to the Supreme Court from a state court decision. In this case, it appears that Bragg is proceeding on the basis of NY state law alone - the false business records statute and, most likely, the NY election laws regarding contribution limits for the underlying crime which was supposedly covered up by the making of the false business records. In which case, there would be no federal basis for an appeal from the NY Court of Appeals (the highest court in NY) to the Supreme Court, unless there is a constitutional right that is being infringed upon, and even then, that right must have been raised at the earliest opportunity possible in the state court proceedings.
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Yes, but there must be a constitutional basis under which the Supreme Court would exercise jurisdiction. That means that there has to be some federal constitutional or legal basis to appeal to the Supreme Court from a state court decision. In this case, it appears that Bragg is proceeding on the basis of NY state law alone - the false business records statute and, most likely, the NY election laws regarding contribution limits for the underlying crime which was supposedly covered up by the making of the false business records. In which case, there would be no federal basis for an appeal from the NY Court of Appeals (the highest court in NY) to the Supreme Court, unless there is a constitutional right that is being infringed upon, and even then, that right must have been raised at the earliest opportunity possible in the state court proceedings.
Well, @Kamaji obviously you have some sort of legal background, I have none and it becomes confusing trying to wade through the information and disinformation on the internet.
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There is a fairly informative article at Vox. I would link it but that is beyond me on my tablet.
The headline: The dubious legal theory at the heart of the Trump indictment, explained.
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There is a fairly informative article at Vox. I would link it but that is beyond me on my tablet.
The headline: The dubious legal theory at the heart of the Trump indictment, explained.
https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/4/4/23648390/trump-indictment-supreme-court-stormy-daniels-manhattan-alvin-bragg (https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/4/4/23648390/trump-indictment-supreme-court-stormy-daniels-manhattan-alvin-bragg)
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Thanks, @catfish1957.
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I hope someone reported this guy to the SS
DC’s ‘Blue Beetle’ Director Tweets Then Deletes Post Wishing for Donald Trump Assassination
The Warner Bros. DC universe of comic book movies is about to welcome the opening of “Blue Beetle” but fans are not welcoming a tweet by the film’s director, Ángel Manuel Soto, who said he hopes Donald Trump is assassinated like President Abraham Lincoln.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/04/05/dcs-blue-beetle-director-tweets-then-deletes-post-wishing-for-donald-trump-assassination/
He's not the only one. I've seen various posts and tweets about how the speaker wishes Trump would end up the way Lincoln ended up.
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Well, @Kamaji obviously you have some sort of legal background, I have none and it becomes confusing trying to wade through the information and disinformation on the internet.
I've had to do close readings before, and I'm a bit of an obsessive sometimes, so I can work my way through the nonsense. I also have some, shall we say, more "personal" experience with these matters in the NY court system.
It is confusing, overall, however.
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There is a fairly informative article at Vox. I would link it but that is beyond me on my tablet.
The headline: The dubious legal theory at the heart of the Trump indictment, explained.
Here it is from Vox:
https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/4/4/23648390/trump-indictment-supreme-court-stormy-daniels-manhattan-alvin-bragg
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Here it is from Vox:
https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/4/4/23648390/trump-indictment-supreme-court-stormy-daniels-manhattan-alvin-bragg
Thanks, @libertybele
I thought the article is worth the read.
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Thanks, @libertybele
I thought the article is worth the read.
No problem. :beer:
I am on my desktop. I don't know how to 'link' with my tablet either. :shrug:
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Where's the self interest in living in a violent, crime infested hellhole?
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
You and your homies are allowed to wander freely,committing all sorts of crimes,while getting free food,housing,medical care,utilities,food,and clothing for you and your illigimitate offsprungs while waiting for your gooberment checks to come in.
In a JUST society,the criminals I described above would still get all that,but would be in prison while it happened,or depending on the severity of their crimes,awaiting a quit execution.
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Maybe the Stormy Daniels episode still has her a bit pissed. Her lack of being there may imply the Donald did indeed have an affair....more than likely several....
@mrpotatohead
@mystery-ak
Or maybe she just had something else she needed to do or somewhere else she needed to be.
After all,they are married,not joined at the hip.
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Gee, maybe the candidate's flawed?
@LMAO
@Right_in_Virginia
EVERYTHING, including original sin is Trump's fault.
On top of that,he is wealthy,orange,and rude!
Whut murika rilly needs iz anuthor Bush!
Try to keep up.
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Fair enough
He could lose his law license for malpractice.
And who do you think the voters of New York City would replace him with? Look what the voters in Chicago replaced Lori Lightfoot with.
@LMAO
It almost boggles the imagination that the Dims could find someone dumber than her.
It's like a race to the bottom.
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@LMAO
@Right_in_Virginia
EVERYTHING, including original sin is Trump's fault.
On top of that,he is wealthy,orange,and rude!
Whut murika rilly needs iz anuthor Bush!
Try to keep up.
Huh???
Do you even know what we’re talking about or are you just reacting emotionally to a post?
Why don’t you add something substantive to the conversation besides rude, orange, rich, or Bush?
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:silly:
ABC’s Hostin: Trump Will Likely Serve Time in Jail for Manhattan Case
ABC legal analyst Sunny Hostin told her co-hosts Wednesday on ABC’s “The View” that former President Donald Trump will likely serve time in prison as a result of the case brought by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/04/05/abcs-hostin-trump-will-likely-serve-time-in-jail-for-manhattan-case/
@mystery-ak
Just telling the dummies what they want to hear so they will pay her to come back again.
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American women complain, "No one wants to date anymore?" "Nobody wants to get married anymore!?"
After ME TOO and the Trump Circus, I cannot foresee any successful male having anything to do with any female.
If you are a millionaire (and especially billionaire), no pictures, no dates, no elevator, no nothing with any female.
I am not in a 'high status' success group and even I look at every female as a landmine, to be avoided with caution.
Even if the woman is the sexual aggressor, you always have to wonder if it is a setup.
I cannot imagine how all of this is going to end for women in America?
@240B
Does this mean you are going to change your user name to "Me so horny!"?
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Huh???
Do you even know what we’re talking about or are you just reacting emotionally to a post?
Why don’t you add something substantive to the conversation besides rude, orange, rich, or Bush?
@LMAO
What,and make fun of your faith?
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@LMAO
What,and make fun of your faith?
This doesn’t make sense
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Here it is from Vox:
https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/4/4/23648390/trump-indictment-supreme-court-stormy-daniels-manhattan-alvin-bragg
It's an interesting article, but I think it may have missed the underlying crime Bragg intends to allege as the basis for converting a misdemeanor false business records offense into a felony offense. Specifically, under NY Election Law § 14-126(5), it is a Class A misdemeanor for a person to "knowingly and willfully" make or accept contributions in excess of the contribution limits imposed under Art. 14 of the NY Election Law.
That, to my mind, explains why that statement of facts went into such detail to specify that the actions taken by Cohen and American Media, including in particular the payments to the ladies, took place prior to the election, and the repayment, if any, only took place after the election was over (I believe that American Media ultimately refused to accept reimbursement for the amounts it paid out).
Since the payments do not appear to have been papered as loans to the Trump campaign, Bragg will almost certainly try to argue that they were political campaign contributions that exceeded the limits, and that way in which the reimbursements were treated as legal expenses - from Cohen issuing invoices for legal services, to the general ledger and check memo lines stating that the payments were for legal services, which would not be subject to the campaign contribution limits, a means of covering up the fact that the initial payments were, in substance, contributions to Trump.
Furthermore, even if the original payments are cast as "loans", NY Election Law § 14-114(6) treats a loan that is not repaid by the date of the primary or election to which it relates, as a "contribution".
Thus, since the payments in this case took place after the 2016 presidential election, those initial payments by Cohen and American Media would be recast as contributions for the purposes of the NY election laws, and since those amounts definitely exceeded the contribution limits, the making of the payment is probably a violation of the NY election law and punishable as a Class A misdemeanor.
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@240B
Does this mean you are going to change your user name to "Me so horny!"?
Far past the point of being 'horny', maybe once in a while after a few months and it does not last long.
That's for the younger guys. And they are all turning to one-time prostitutes.
No prostitute is as expensive as a divorce losing half your stuff followed by 20 years of payments.
If you only go out a couple of times a month, better to use Uber than to buy a car of your own.
Only a fool would not take this stuff seriously. With what is going on these days, you have to be paranoid.
It is not 1950 anymore.
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Far past the point of being 'horny', maybe once in a while after a few months and it does not last long.
That's for the younger guys. And they are all turning to one-time prostitutes.
No prostitute is as expensive as a divorce losing half your stuff followed by 20 years of payments.
If you only go out a couple of times a month, better to use Uber than to buy a car of your own.
Only a fool would not take this stuff seriously.
@240B
Has there ever been a time when you didn't need to be paranoid? Ozzie and Harriet was a real family,but what we saw was the tv version.
It is not 1950 anymore.
I am guessing being paranoid in 1950 was a smart move to make,too.
Things started changing in the early 40's. Most people no longer seemed to see marriage as a life-long committment requiring them both to make compromises.
Nowadays,it really does seem to be a case of "ME FIRST,me,me,ME,DAMMIT!"
Which,in reality,is a super highway to divorce. I don't give a damn WHO you are,there are going to be days when you HAVE to admit to being wrong even if you don't think you are,in order to continue to live in peace.
This,of course,only works if you are both willing to do that.
Life ain't perfect,and neither are any of us.
Well,ME,maybe,when I am having a good day.
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Far past the point of being 'horny', maybe once in a while after a few months and it does not last long.
That's for the younger guys. And they are all turning to one-time prostitutes.
No prostitute is as expensive as a divorce losing half your stuff followed by 20 years of payments.
If you only go out a couple of times a month, better to use Uber than to buy a car of your own.
Only a fool would not take this stuff seriously. With what is going on these days, you have to be paranoid.
It is not 1950 anymore.
You just have to find the right girl. My youngest son is marrying his high school sweetheart and she’s a good girl. I guess stay away from the cheap dating sites. That’s where I think you’re more likely to find your problems.
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Expensive nookie...
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You just have to find the right girl. My youngest son is marrying his high school sweetheart and she’s a good girl. I guess stay away from the cheap dating sites. That’s where I think you’re more likely to find your problems.
I found my right girl driving home from work one day. I was almost there and here was this girl lying in the road. I dang near spilled my beer trying not to run over her. Got out, dusted her off. She cleaned up well. I had the suspicion it was a trick, but here we are, 37 years later.
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I found my right girl driving home from work one day. I was almost there and here was this girl lying in the road. I dang near spilled my beer trying not to run over her. Got out, dusted her off. She cleaned up well. I had the suspicion it was a trick, but here we are, 37 years later.
@bigheadfred
And you still think it wasn't a trick?
Albet one that seems to have worked for both of you,but still a "trick".
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Far past the point of being 'horny', maybe once in a while after a few months and it does not last long.
That's for the younger guys. And they are all turning to one-time prostitutes.
No prostitute is as expensive as a divorce losing half your stuff followed by 20 years of payments.
If you only go out a couple of times a month, better to use Uber than to buy a car of your own.
Only a fool would not take this stuff seriously. With what is going on these days, you have to be paranoid.
It is not 1950 anymore.
@sneakypete
I see you responded to my post ... I think? I cannot make out what you are trying to say but I did notice that you stepped on and butchered my original post into nonsense. Why not respond coherently with a paragraph pithy response, and say what you mean to say where people can follow and understand it? Just a suggestion.
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@LMAO @Weird Tolkienish Figure
Personally,I am a little surprised both of you haven't started pushing the "Jeb Bush" train down the tracks. He's more your style,although not having mama Bush to tell him what to say,think,and do has kinda handicapped him.
Meanwhile, look who your boy has allied with
https://dailycaller.com/2023/03/28/trump-hires-jeb-bush-campaigner-new-hampshire/
“Former President Donald Trump has hired a former Jeb Bush campaign operative to be the New Hampshire state director of his 2024 presidential campaign.”
Seems your boy is a lot closer to Jeb Bush than either one of us
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@sneakypete
I see you responded to my post ... I think? I cannot make out what you are trying to say but I did notice that you stepped on and butchered my original post into nonsense.
@240B I just re-read my repsonse and have no idea what you are talking about."Stepped on",how?
Why not respond coherently with a paragraph pithy response, and say what you mean to say where people can follow and understand it? Just a suggestion.
Plain English. It's not my fault if you don't understand it.
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You didn’t hear much from Malena Trump while she was First Lady. No trying to tell kids what they can eat. No claiming a co presidency status. I found his wife very likable.
Lon g time ago my father told me "Sometimes the best thing to say is not one damn thing."
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Meanwhile, look who your boy has allied with
https://dailycaller.com/2023/03/28/trump-hires-jeb-bush-campaigner-new-hampshire/
“Former President Donald Trump has hired a former Jeb Bush campaign operative to be the New Hampshire state director of his 2024 presidential campaign.”
Seems your boy is a lot closer to Jeb Bush than either one of us
@LMAO
I doubt you'll get a response on that one.
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@LMAO
I doubt you'll get a response on that one.
Trump has a record of not picking the best people. So he was a former Jeb campaigner. I don't see that as a big deal.
Trump has to get past the charges against him, that's the big deal.
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Trump has a record of not picking the best people. So he was a former Jeb campaigner. I don't see that as a big deal.
Trump has to get past the charges against him, that's the big deal.
True enough; it was the context that warranted the comment.
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@LMAO
I doubt you'll get a response on that one.
Lol…
I’ve given up on getting a response on many issues from the MAGAs
Trump hiring a Jeb campaign manager isn’t an issue for me. But I’ll make an issue of it when a MAGA brings it up as part of their strawman argument.
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With Tangerine Mussolini, I never expect an arraignment ... that guy could win a slippery contest against an eel.
mr tangerine mans rotting on the tree
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mr tangerine mans rotting on the tree
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@Meshuge Mikey
You should just go back to The Huffington Post and be done with it. Nobody is buying your crap here.
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I'm not even a Trump groupie, and I find Mikey's graphics annoying.
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mr tangerine mans rotting on the tree
(https://i.imgur.com/6PYoyqm.gif)
Hey Mr. Tangerine man, play a song for me...
:whistle: :silly:
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I'm not even a Trump groupie, and I find Mikey's graphics annoying.
Well, at least I'm not the only one that finds the graphics annoying -- the 'ignore' feature does come in handy at times.
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I for one like his graphics. I liked him in the "Panther Whizz" era and I like them now. And I voted for Trump twice. :D
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I can understand the difference in how Briefers take him, he can be cutting edge.
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Being a meshugener cuts both ways. It's a fine line between eccentricity and irritation.
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I for one like his graphics. I liked him in the "Panther Whizz" era and I like them now. And I voted for Trump twice. :D
the donny BOUGHT OUT Panther Whizz...hired the brewmeister....... FIRED HIM....and then folded like a cheap suit
eveythings fine though....donnys BIG DAY is tomorrow according to Don Don
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Being a meshugener cuts both ways. It's a fine line between eccentricity and irritation.
remember this TRIBUTE to Bronco Bama
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@Meshuge Mikey
You should just go back to The Huffington Post and be done with it. Nobody is buying your crap here.
ive never tried to SELL anyone a bill of spolied goods Senor Pete
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the donny on the other hand....is full of CHEAP TRICKS
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I for one like his graphics. I liked him in the "Panther Whizz" era and I like them now. And I voted for Trump twice. :D
THANK YOU!! Sad Old JIM ROBINSON lascks your sense of humor...and so does The Donny..and thats a BAD SIGN
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@Meshuge Mikey
You should just go back to The Huffington Post and be done with it. Nobody is buying your crap here.
Don't be phony baloney. You sure kept you mouth shut during Legal American's bull shit.
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I can understand the difference in how Briefers take him, he can be cutting edge.
"Cutting Edge" my ass!
Only question...where does he celebrate his birthday now that Chucky Cheese is out of business?
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It obviously depends on whose goat is being gored, doesn't it @DCPatriot
If he was making fun of Conservatives like DeSantis or Cruz he'd be your best friend here.
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It obviously depends on whose goat is being gored, doesn't it @DCPatriot
If he was making fun of Conservatives like DeSantis or Cruz he'd be your best friend here.
Childish BS is still childish BS regardless of who's ox is being gored @corbe
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It obviously depends on whose goat is being gored, doesn't it @DCPatriot
If he was making fun of Conservatives like DeSantis or Cruz he'd be your best friend here.
See my prior post. They let Legal American spew away unabated, and in fact egged her on. Their selective outrage is pretty telling on the hypocricy angle if you ask me.
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See my prior post. They let Legal American spew away unabated, and in fact egged her on. Their selective outrage is pretty telling on the hypocricy angle if you ask me.
Who is "they" @catfish1957 I call out childish BS every time I see it.
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Who is "they" @catfish1957 I call out childish BS every time I see it.
Pretty much the entire ultra-Trump contingent here at TBR sat on their hands and some even egged Legal American on as she lied and spammed her away 24/7 here a time back around Q-Anon like pro-Trump bullshit.
She was a rarity... one of two on my ignore list.
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Pretty much the entire ultra-Trump contingent here at TBR sat on their hands and some even egged Legal American on as she lied and spammed her away 24/7 here a time back around Q-Anon like pro-Trump bullshit.
She was a rarity... one of two on my ignore list.
I'm not ULTRA anyone so that leaves me out. I called her out more than once. Just as I have called out the current childish Trump/Desantis BS. I will continue to do so.
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Don't be phony baloney. You sure kept you mouth shut during Legal American's bull shit.
@catfish1957
ahhhh,a MESSA MIKEY groupie!
I don't evev remember "Legal American's bull shit".
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Pretty much the entire ultra-Trump contingent here at TBR sat on their hands and some even egged Legal American on as she lied and spammed her away 24/7 here a time back around Q-Anon like pro-Trump bullshit.
She was a rarity... one of two on my ignore list.
I miss LA. Moderating was fun in her day....we hardly get any reports now since she got the Hammer.
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@catfish1957
ahhhh,a MESSA MIKEY groupie!
I don't evev remember "Legal American's bull shit".
@sneakypete
I don't either. Couple of the 'darling' members had it in for her...don't know why.
English is definitely not @LegalAmerican 's primary language...with this venue known often for lacking nuance in communication...
IMHO all you guys blew it BIG TIME banning her. She loves the United States and hates to see it go the way of her old country.
And that's all I'm ever gonna say about it.
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Don't be phony baloney. You sure kept you mouth shut during Legal American's bull shit.
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/Smileys/default/Yes.gif
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"Cutting Edge" my ass!
Only question...where does he celebrate his birthday now that Chucky Cheese is out of business?
what authetntic conservative woould ever echo Donn=a Twumps famous words,,,HERE BELOW except TO MAKE FUND of the poor slob??
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22222frying pan
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@sneakypete
I don't either. Couple of the 'darling' members had it in for her...don't know why.
English is definitely not @LegalAmerican 's primary language...with this venue known often for lacking nuance in communication...
IMHO all you guys blew it BIG TIME banning her. She loves the United States and hates to see it go the way of her old country.
And that's all I'm ever gonna say about it.
There was a lot of “Trump can do no wrong” vibe to her posts but I do agree with what you’re saying here
Who banned her?
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There was a lot of “Trump can do no wrong” vibe to her posts but I do agree with what you’re saying here
Who banned her?
Not I. I got outvoted. It happens...
She was not born here, I think she is from Bulgaria.
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@catfish1957
ahhhh,a MESSA MIKEY groupie!
I don't evev remember "Legal American's bull shit".
Because you probably bought into every iota of it. Mikey groupie? Not hardly. I voted for Trump the past election. I just find it hilariously ironic and hypocritical that some of you are slamming Mikey, while you let LA run rampant, not saying a word. She was caught in more lies and fabrications than we can count.
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Not I. I got outvoted. It happens...
She was not born here, I think she is from Bulgaria.
Well, being born and raised in a Soviet bloc country does have a deep impact on anyone’s world view.
We can all read about the suffering people experience in the Soviet Union. But I can’t imagine how somebody who grew up in that situation feels.
And there’s probably resentment on her part to do everything right to become a legal citizen in this country while watching people just run over the border and be treated as if they’re royalty
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Because you probably bought into every iota of it. Mikey groupie? Not hardly. I voted for Trump the past election. I just find it hilariously ironic and hypocritical that some of you are slamming Mikey, while you let LA run rampant, not saying a word. She was caught in more lies and fabrications than we can count.
The one meme that Mike post that I always get a chuckle out of is that one were Donald Trump’s head is on the body of a toddler were he’s whining about Oprah and wants her to get on the race so he can defeat her
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@sneakypete
I don't either. Couple of the 'darling' members had it in for her...don't know why.
@DCPatriot
The "why" is NEVER as important as the "who" that wants it to happen,regardless of where you go.
IMHO all you guys blew it BIG TIME banning her. She loves the United States and hates to see it go the way of her old country.
I agree 100 percent. I don't even know when she was banned,but if I had been aware of it,I would have protested against it when it happened.
After all,WTH is the purpose of a discussion board if you can't discuss conflicting viewpoints?
And that's all I'm ever gonna say about it.
Me,too,but only because it is waaay too late to be effective.
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Well, being born and raised in a Soviet bloc country does have a deep impact on anyone’s world view.
We can all read about the suffering people experience in the Soviet Union. But I can’t imagine how somebody who grew up in that situation feels.
And there’s probably some resentment when you do everything right to become a legal citizen in this country while watching people just run over the border and be treated as if they’re royalty
@LMAO
Yeah,I can identify with that,and I was born here.
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Not that it’s really any of my business but I’m curious what she said or did that got her banned?
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I miss LA. Moderating was fun in her day....we hardly get any reports now since she got the Hammer.
I liked her actually... We ran hot and cold a lot.
Her Tumpian propaganda was all bullcrap, and disproven over and again, yet she continued to ply it as truth... EXTREMELY frustrating, that. But otherwise, we had some pretty good conversations.
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I liked her actually... We ran hot and cold a lot.
Her Tumpian propaganda was all bullcrap, and disproven over and again, yet she continued to ply it as truth... EXTREMELY frustrating, that. But otherwise, we had some pretty good conversations.
A lot of that might be from her experience living under communism. People who fled communism to this country in the past did not flee it to bring it here.
I remember a discussion I had years ago with somebody about an article I once read how Cuban youths were threatened with arrest if they defaced posters of Che Guevara during the Castro Revolution
The individual who I was discussing this with didn’t believe it, because he’s seen all kinds of young people wearing his T-shirts
I reminded him that he was seeing Bernie Sanders college kids in the US with those T-shirts. They didn’t have the honor of living under Castro and Che’s terror
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The one meme that Mike post that I always get a chuckle out of is that one were Donald Trump’s head is on the body of a toddler were he’s whining about Oprah and wants her to get on the race so he can defeat her
im certain that I can find that in amongst the 7000 other banners ive created since the trump circus first put up the clown tent..
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donny and the whole MAGA secanrio is SO very easy to parody.. it IS black and white
donnys a bloated litte bot with a yuge mouth who necame a malignant bully while lighting his personal spooks ..INTRODUCED TO HIM by THE DADDY,,,,and THE MOMMY
i know severla people personally whoe tolve me WE SIHE HES STOP WITH THOSE STUPID tweets>
i HAD to inform him that theas where the donnys lets it all hang loose....thats his CORE speaking the six year old he told his biogrpher about.... THE ONE HE SAID HE WAS STILL..... "LIKE"
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A lot of that might be from her experience living under communism. People who fled communism to this country in the past did not flee it to bring it here.
I remember a discussion I had years ago with somebody about an article I once read how Cuban youths were threatened with arrest if they defaced posters of Che Guevara during the Castro Revolution
The individual who I was discussing this with didn’t believe it, because he’s seen all kinds of young people wearing his T-shirts
I reminded him that he was seeing Bernie Sanders college kids in the US with those T-shirts. They didn’t have the honor of living under Castro and Che’s terror
Oh absolutely! She was vehemently anti-communist/Socialist - And I commend her for that. Truly...
And I don't know that her propaganda was intentional. I think she believed it all, and would hear nothing else, regardless of how many times and ways it was disproved.
Perhaps there is a political angle to that... shining your ride sorta thing, that happens in soviet bloc countries... but here the truth should be paramount. And I suffer no fools when it comes to that.
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I thought LA was from Venezuela.
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I thought LA was from Venezuela.
I seem to remember a Latina vibe... :shrug:
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I seem to remember a Latina vibe... :shrug:
that ,,,,,was a marimba •••••••••
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that ,,,,,was a marimba •••••••••
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Aaaaaiiiiiii! :beer:
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I seem to remember a Latina vibe... :shrug:
I used to chat with her on PM. Romanian. She lives not far from me, in Nevada.
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I used to chat with her on PM. Romanian. She lives not far from me, in Nevada.
Gypsy! I stand corrected... But that explains why I liked her. :laugh:
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Gypsy! I stand corrected... But that explains why I liked her. :laugh:
Back during the boat people from Vietnam era in the 1970s, we did have a Vietnamese family that moved in our neighborhood after fleeing the Communist in Vietnam and they had 4 kids of which one was a daughter that was my age.
They absolutely loved America and were patriotic as hell. I used to think it was strange to see an American flag flying high, especially on Fourth of July, outside their home considering they were from Vietnam but as I got older and really understood what communism was, I gained an understanding why they felt the way they did.
And I remember the whole family just adored Ronald Reagan.
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Back during the boat people from Vietnam era in the 1970s, we did have a Vietnamese family that moved in our neighborhood after fleeing the Communist in Vietnam and they had 4 kids of which one was a daughter that was my age.
They absolutely loved America and were patriotic as hell. I used to think it was strange to see an American flag flying high, especially on Fourth of July, outside their home considering they were from Vietnam but as I got older and really understood what communism was, I gained an understanding why they felt the way they did.
And I remember the whole family just adored Ronald Reagan.
None understand liberty like those who know what it is to be without it. :beer:
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My Trumper sister should know better than invite me over for a Religious Dinner and all. But she did and I went. We survived debating why it's called Good Friday so I pressed my luck and ventured into Trumpism. I abruptly stood up from the conversation table after she asked the question "What has Ted Cruz done lately, except get FAT"? Though I had to somewhat agree with her (silently), I left anyway knowing that this Trumper had exhausted all logical data points.
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My Trumper sister should know better than invite me over for a Religious Dinner and all. But she did and I went. We survived debating why it's called Good Friday so I pressed my luck and ventured into Trumpism. I abruptly stood up from the conversation table after she asked the question "What has Ted Cruz done lately, except get FAT"? Though I had to somewhat agree with her (silently), I left anyway knowing that this Trumper had exhausted all logical data points.
He did gain weight. That Senate salary must allow him to eat well
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He did gain weight. That Senate salary must allow him to eat well
@LMAO
Maybe his (alleged) boyfriend/live-in roomie is just a good cook?
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ESAD
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ESAD
:nono: I know what that means....
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@mystery-ak In my defense He says that often to other Briefers. I should have included the Beer emoji, I guess, cause I love that ol fart!
I see this 4 letter nomenclature as being added to the forbidden word list, sorry about that @sneakypete
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My Trumper sister should know better than invite me over for a Religious Dinner and all. But she did and I went. We survived debating why it's called Good Friday so I pressed my luck and ventured into Trumpism. I abruptly stood up from the conversation table after she asked the question "What has Ted Cruz done lately, except get FAT"? Though I had to somewhat agree with her (silently), I left anyway knowing that this Trumper had exhausted all logical data points.
Wow... so you don't get along with your sister about politics and she just likes a different Republican than you? Yikes, you wouldn't like my family functions (on my side, my wife's family is basically apolitical, which is fine with me).
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My most successful Relationships in my Life have been apolitical; I thrive on them. Unfortunately, my Family I can't choose, and they are just as stubborn as me BUT I Love them.
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I see this 4 letter nomenclature as being added to the forbidden word list,
Nah...there is too many on that list as it is...I'm not going to start putting acronyms on it...
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Wow... so you don't get along with your sister about politics and she just likes a different Republican than you? Yikes, you wouldn't like my family functions (on my side, my wife's family is basically apolitical, which is fine with me).
LOL!
Last Easter, I was having dinner at my brother's house...just him, his wife and myself. They hate President Trump...the man.
Because it had really been bugging me seeing all the memes on the internet regarding the sexuality of Michelle Obama...from unabashed sources and old photos...the fact there are none of her while pregnant, etc..,
I blurted out..."Is Michelle Obama really a dude? A transsexual??
Dead silence ...so I blurted out "What?"
He looks and says, "I have no idea why you would even ask that question".
Once and for all.... IS 'SHE' a "HE"?
Is that what all this transsexual crap is for?...to get the country ready for Michelle in 2024? LOL! :silly:
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My Trumper sister should know better than invite me over for a Religious Dinner and all. But she did and I went. We survived debating why it's called Good Friday so I pressed my luck and ventured into Trumpism. I abruptly stood up from the conversation table after she asked the question "What has Ted Cruz done lately, except get FAT"? Though I had to somewhat agree with her (silently), I left anyway knowing that this Trumper had exhausted all logical data points.
i miss my trumper friends....no easter at Church This year
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The Incoherent Trump Indictment
It appears that Alvin Bragg has arrested Trump without telling him exactly what crimes he has allegedly committed and how he committed them.
by George Parry
April 9, 2023, 10:55 PMIn pre-Marxist America, the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution used to guarantee criminal defendants the right to “be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation” against them. This antiquated provision was interpreted to mean that an indictment had to apprise the accused of the crime charged with such reasonable certainty that the defendant could prepare and present a defense. It was held that no indictment was sufficient if it did not set forth all of the elements that constituted the alleged crime. And, where an indictment described the crime by merely reciting the words of the criminal statute allegedly violated, it nevertheless had to allege facts necessary to bring the case within the statutory definition of the crime.
But now, in the brave new world of woke law enforcement, such bourgeois constitutional niceties appear to have been rendered inoperative. Just ask Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, who has produced a legally incoherent grand jury indictment of former President Donald Trump.
To be sure the Sixth Amendment is still on the books as is Article 200.50 of the New York Criminal Procedure Law which provides, in relevant part, that an indictment “must contain” a “plain and concise factual statement in each count which … asserts facts supporting every element of the offense charged and the defendant’s … commission thereof with sufficient precision to clearly apprise the defendant … of the conduct which is the subject of the accusation…”
But, judging from the incomplete, impenetrable, and mystifying contents of the Trump indictment, it appears that Bragg has arrested Trump without telling him exactly what crimes he has allegedly committed and how he committed them. Or, to paraphrase the Red Queen in Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, Bragg’s ground-breaking prosecutorial strategy appears to be “trial first, charges afterward.” ...
George Parry is a former federal and state prosecutor.
American Spectator (https://spectator.org/the-incoherent-trump-indictment/)
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The Incoherent Trump Indictment
It appears that Alvin Bragg has arrested Trump without telling him exactly what crimes he has allegedly committed and how he committed them.
by George Parry
April 9, 2023, 10:55 PMAmerican Spectator (https://spectator.org/the-incoherent-trump-indictment/)
:facepalm2:
The solution is for Trump to either (a) move to have the indictment dismissed for insufficiency, or (b) request a bill of particulars to fill in the factual allegations that support the offenses alleged in the indictment.
Until (b) happens, and is denied, and then (a) is denied, and the case proceeds to trial and conviction, there has been no denial of Sixth Amendment rights.
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:facepalm2:
The solution is for Trump to either (a) move to have the indictment dismissed for insufficiency, or (b) request a bill of particulars to fill in the factual allegations that support the offenses alleged in the indictment.
Until (b) happens, and is denied, and then (a) is denied, and the case proceeds to trial and conviction, there has been no denial of Sixth Amendment rights.
So.e people just insist on bringing actual law into legal discussions....
You should be ashamed of yourself. /S
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So.e people just insist on bringing actual law into legal discussions....
You should be ashamed of yourself. /S
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So.e people just insist on bringing actual law into legal discussions....
You should be ashamed of yourself. /S
My bad!
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:facepalm2:
The solution is for Trump to either (a) move to have the indictment dismissed for insufficiency, or (b) request a bill of particulars to fill in the factual allegations that support the offenses alleged in the indictment.
Until (b) happens, and is denied, and then (a) is denied, and the case proceeds to trial and conviction, there has been no denial of Sixth Amendment rights.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
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Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
And none of that will be implicated unless (a) the prosecutor refuses to provide a bill of particulars after Trump requests one, (b) the court refuses to dismiss the indictment for failure to state the underlying facts, and (c) the case goes to trial and Trump is convicted.
Why do you think the NY Penal Code provides for a bill of particulars? Just for shits and giggles?
If the indictment is deficient, then the course of action is to either have it dismissed, or have it supplemented via a bill of particulars.
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And none of that will be implicated unless (a) the prosecutor refuses to provide a bill of particulars after Trump requests one, (b) the court refuses to dismiss the indictment for failure to state the underlying facts, and (c) the case goes to trial and Trump is convicted.
Why do you think the NY Penal Code provides for a bill of particulars? Just for shits and giggles?
If the indictment is deficient, then the course of action is to either have it dismissed, or have it supplemented via a bill of particulars.
the accused MIGHT BE less worroed about the NYC case that the GEORGIA CASE...
that hes as worried as he clealy is...points toward an expected conviction.
his people..sorry lot though they are.... have infomed the donny that it looks very very BAD for him
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I personally think the Georgia case is utter crap. Trump clearly believed personally that there was large-scale fraud in Georgia. Whether he was right or wrong is immaterial because criminality requires criminal intent, and that is a subjective state of mind.
If he believed there was fraud, then asking the governor of that state to get evidence of that fraud is perfectly legal. It's only if he didn't believe it, and is asking the state to manufacture false evidence of fraud, that criminality arguably occurs.
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I personally think the Georgia case is utter crap. Trump clearly believed personally that there was large-scale fraud in Georgia. Whether he was right or wrong is immaterial because criminality requires criminal intent, and that is a subjective state of mind.
If he believed there was fraud, then asking the governor of that state to get evidence of that fraud is perfectly legal. It's only if he didn't believe it, and is asking the state to manufacture false evidence of fraud, that criminality arguably occurs.
:thumbsup:
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I personally think the Georgia case is utter crap. Trump clearly believed personally that there was large-scale fraud in Georgia. Whether he was right or wrong is immaterial because criminality requires criminal intent, and that is a subjective state of mind.
If he believed there was fraud, then asking the governor of that state to get evidence of that fraud is perfectly legal. It's only if he didn't believe it, and is asking the state to manufacture false evidence of fraud, that criminality arguably occurs.
Found not gullty by reason of insanity.....
the suspect had NO IDEA......never has had..and never will
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I personally think the Georgia case is utter crap. Trump clearly believed personally that there was large-scale fraud in Georgia. Whether he was right or wrong is immaterial because criminality requires criminal intent, and that is a subjective state of mind.
If he believed there was fraud, then asking the governor of that state to get evidence of that fraud is perfectly legal. It's only if he didn't believe it, and is asking the state to manufacture false evidence of fraud, that criminality arguably occurs.
That's right.
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I personally think the Georgia case is utter crap. Trump clearly believed personally that there was large-scale fraud in Georgia.
I'm 100% certain that there has been fraud on the GOP side in the last five Georgia elections - 2020 primary and general, 2021 runoff, and 2922 primary and general.
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I'm 100% certain that there has been fraud on the GOP side in the last five Georgia elections - 2020 primary and general, 2021 runoff, and 2922 primary and general.
I have followed your relentless reporting on the subject, and I will back you on that.
Even so, the only corruption that matters is the corruption you can prove in court.
There IS some use outside of that maxim - If you can convince the People, they may move the legislature(s) without the court... BUT, proof in court, I would say, is the standard.
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I'm 100% certain that there has been fraud on the GOP side in the last five Georgia elections - 2020 primary and general, 2021 runoff, and 2922 primary and general.
Fraud committed by the GOP, or against the GOP??
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Ronna is unavailable for comment on the former charge.
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Fraud committed by the GOP, or against the GOP??
By the GOP, against candidates they don't like. I had a friend who was going to run against Hank Johnson in GA-4. But because she wouldn't bow to the State GOP, they found another candidate to challenge her in the GOP primary. They even filled out all the paperwork and paid all the fees of their token candidate. Naturally, this token candidate ended up winning the GOP nomination even though he didn't campaign.
There was a lot of shady things that went down in that primary. Thousands of votes disappeared from the tally. So she challenged the election. Not as a candidate (which is very important), but as a voter. Which means that she was not challenging the results, but was challenging the integrity of the election itself. The State GOP didn't like that, so they approached her and said that if she dropped the challenge, they would declare that the tally was wrong and that she was the real winner, making her the nominee. She refused.
Not sure where that challenge is right now, but the November elections proved that the fix was in. The State GOP basically cut a deal with the Dems. The GOP kept all State offices in exchange for the US Senate seat.
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By the GOP, against candidates they don't like. I had a friend who was going to run against Hank Johnson in GA-4. But because she wouldn't bow to the State GOP, they found another candidate to challenge her in the GOP primary. They even filled out all the paperwork and paid all the fees of their token candidate. Naturally, this token candidate ended up winning the GOP nomination even though he didn't campaign.
There was a lot of shady things that went down in that primary. Thousands of votes disappeared from the tally. So she challenged the election. Not as a candidate (which is very important), but as a voter. Which means that she was not challenging the results, but was challenging the integrity of the election itself. The State GOP didn't like that, so they approached her and said that if she dropped the challenge, they would declare that the tally was wrong and that she was the real winner, making her the nominee. She refused.
Not sure where that challenge is right now, but the November elections proved that the fix was in. The State GOP basically cut a deal with the Dems. The GOP kept all State offices in exchange for the US Senate seat.
@Hoodat
I really do wish with all my heart that I could argue with that,but I can't.