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Title: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 18, 2019, 09:55:49 pm
GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'

By John Bowden - 05/18/19 04:09 PM EDT


A Michigan Republican and member of the House Freedom Caucus broke with his party Saturday in a rare series of tweets accusing President Trump of "impeachable conduct."

Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) tweeted Saturday that the president's actions to potentially obstruct the now-shuttered special counsel investigation warrant impeachment by the House. He also accused Attorney General William Barr of "deliberately misrepresenting" Robert Mueller's report of the investigation's findings.

"Here are my principal conclusions: 1. Attorney General Barr has deliberately misrepresented Mueller’s report. 2. President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct. 3. Partisanship has eroded our system of checks and balances. 4. Few members of Congress have read the report," Amash wrote Saturday afternoon.

"Mueller’s report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meet the threshold for impeachment," the Michigan Republican continued. "Mueller’s report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence."

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/444416-gop-lawmaker-trump-has-engaged-in-multiple-actions-that-meet-threshold-for (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/444416-gop-lawmaker-trump-has-engaged-in-multiple-actions-that-meet-threshold-for)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: rustynail on May 18, 2019, 10:00:45 pm
The walls are closing in.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 18, 2019, 10:03:58 pm
   Yep, @rustynail they got him, this time. 
   As much as I dislike his discombobulated twitter feed, brought to me by @Right_in_Virginia daily, I do love the fact that he trolls the dems so well just begging them to try and Impeach him.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Wingnut on May 18, 2019, 10:04:01 pm
Much like the Tea Party the Freedom caucus is irrelevant today. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 18, 2019, 10:08:21 pm
Justin Amash, the Republican by convenience who would run as a Libertarian if it stood any shot of winning anything.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Sanguine on May 18, 2019, 10:08:32 pm
Unbelievable.  I'm having trouble believing Amash said this.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 18, 2019, 10:16:53 pm
Unbelievable.  I'm having trouble believing Amash said this.

Here is the bum's Twitter account: https://twitter.com/justinamash
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Sanguine on May 18, 2019, 10:30:21 pm
Here is the bum's Twitter account: https://twitter.com/justinamash

Thanks, Ed.  I should have been more specific, while I don't question that he said it (after reading his twitter feed), his line of thought is hard to understand - how he came to the conclusions that he came to. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: dfwgator on May 18, 2019, 10:33:22 pm
Thanks, Ed.  I should have been more specific, while I don't question that he said it (after reading his twitter feed), his line of thought is hard to understand - how he came to the conclusions that he came to.

He wants to be known as the Democrats’ favorite Republican, now that Flake and McCain are gone.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 18, 2019, 10:34:05 pm
Thanks, Ed.  I should have been more specific, while I don't question that he said it (after reading his twitter feed), his line of thought is hard to understand - how he came to the conclusions that he came to.

As I recall, this guy has been all over the map.  At times I can remember agreeing with some of his stands, other times his line of thought leaves me scratching my head.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: austingirl on May 18, 2019, 10:47:34 pm
He wants to be known as the Democrats’ favorite Republican, now that Flake and McCain are gone.

Bingo!
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: skeeter on May 18, 2019, 10:54:19 pm
He wants to be known as the Democrats’ favorite Republican, now that Flake and McCain are gone.

One of two possibilities - this is just the GOPE, trying to let Trump know he's beholden to them and had better tow the party line, or

Amash is being clever by baiting the rats into actually trying to impeach him, which would end very badly for them.

If there's ever been one thing the GOPe has not been its 'clever'.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: mystery-ak on May 19, 2019, 12:08:25 am
Justin Amash becomes first Republican in Congress to call for Trump's impeachment
by Colin Wilhelm
 | May 18, 2019 05:24 PM



Rep. Justin Amash said that President Trump committed impeachable offenses during the course of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.

The Michigan Republican also accused Attorney General William Barr of misleading the public as to Mueller’s findings from his investigation into Russian interference in the 2017 presidential election.

In a series of tweets posted Saturday, Amash, who has a reputation as an iconoclast within the Republican conference in the House of Representatives, said that Trump’s actions reached the threshold for impeachment. The Michigan Republican said he reached his conclusions about Trump and Barr after “carefully and completely” reading the public version of Mueller’s report and consulting with staff.

“Contrary to Barr’s portrayal, Mueller’s report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meet the threshold for impeachment,” wrote Amash, who said he believes that Trump obstructed justice during the course of the investigation.

“Mueller’s report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence,” Amash wrote.

more
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/justin-amash-becomes-first-republican-in-congress-to-call-for-trumps-impeachment (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/justin-amash-becomes-first-republican-in-congress-to-call-for-trumps-impeachment)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 19, 2019, 12:08:48 am
He wants to be known as the Democrats’ favorite Republican, now that Flake and McCain are gone.
You do realize who Justin Amash is, right? He's so far to the right, the Republicans look liberal in comparison.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Sanguine on May 19, 2019, 12:13:15 am
You do realize who Justin Amash is, right? He's so far to the right, the Republicans look liberal in comparison.

I admit I don't know much about Amash, but I can't see how impeachment talk based on very darn little is conservative.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: rustynail on May 19, 2019, 12:16:50 am
Just like the Nixon times?
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Mod5 on May 19, 2019, 12:27:52 am
Topics merged.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: libertybele on May 19, 2019, 12:36:10 am
Unbelievable.  I'm having trouble believing Amash said this.

That was my thought as well.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Sanguine on May 19, 2019, 12:39:33 am
That was my thought as well.

He did, @libertybele!  Unless someone hijacked his Twitter account, he did say it and more. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 12:45:33 am
He wants to be known as the Democrats’ favorite Republican, now that Flake and McCain are gone.


Part of his site;.Below
Another Arab muslim in our congress.  They are told to lie to further their islamist agenda. HE SUPPORTS PHONY PALESTINE!  Guess how he was raised?   I guarantee it. 
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Though Amash has been notably reserved about his Palestinian roots, he hasn’t shied away from the subject on social media. In a Facebook post following his decision to vote in favor of HR 4133 United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012, Amash cited his background in discussing his approach to the legislation, writing:

“My father is Palestinian and my mother is Syrian. Israel is far from perfect. Some of its policies and actions violate deeply held American principles of liberty and justice.( BULL YOU HAMAS ARAB! =LA. Yeah, Obama said he was "Christian" too)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 12:46:50 am
Palestine Arab. muslim! Guess how he was raised by his parents?  HAMAS.  MICHIGAN.  NOT BUYING IT.  Remember they are encouraged to lie to further their agenda.  He LIES about Israel. 
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JUSTIN AMASH
Congressman, United States
When one thinks of Congressman Justin Amash, one is inclined to think of his commitment to individual liberty, limited government and transparency between him and his constituents.

What one would likely fail to think of, however, is his Palestinian heritage.

A 34-year-old Republican representative for Michigan’s 3rd congressional district and Chairman of the House Liberty Caucus, Amash is the first American of Palestinian ancestry to serve in the United States Congress. Born to a Syrian-Greek Orthodox mother and a Palestinian-Christian father, Amash was raised in Kentwood, Michigan along with two brothers. Amash’s father, Attallah, emigrated to the United States at the age of 17 from Bethlehem, Palestine in 1956. Prior to this, Attallah and his family had been living in refugee camps after being expelled from their family home following the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948, or what Palestinians call the Nakba. Despite his humble beginnings, Attallah went on to start his own business, founding Amash Imports Inc. in 1960.
Before pursuing a career in the political arena, Amash attained a bachelors degree in economics at the University of Michigan and continued his higher education by earning his Juris Doctorate at the University of Michigan Law School in 2005. After working as a corporate attorney and taking part in the family business for a few years, Amash decided to run for the Michigan House of Representatives in 2008.

Though Amash has been notably reserved about his Palestinian roots, he hasn’t shied away from the subject on social media. In a Facebook post following his decision to vote in favor of HR 4133 United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012, Amash cited his background in discussing his approach to the legislation, writing:

“My father is Palestinian and my mother is Syrian. Israel is far from perfect. Some of its policies and actions violate deeply held American principles of liberty and justice.( BULL YOU HAMAS ARAB! =LA. Yeah, Obama said he was "Christian" too)

 But Israel is our closest friend in a very troubled region. Our national defense benefits from Israel’s ability to defend itself and to serve as a check against neighboring authoritarian regimes and extremists. Assisting with training and the development of Israel’s military capacity allows the U.S. to take a less interventionist role in the region. I am hopeful that American troops soon can leave the region and Israel and its neighbors can live in peace without U.S. aid or involvement.”
When it comes to his own views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, however, his stance mirrors that of most of his peers on Capitol Hill —support for an independent state of Israel alongside an independent state of Palestine upon mutually accepted borders.
“All parties benefit from an end to the Arab-Israeli conflict,”Amash wrote on his website. “I share former President George W. Bush’s vision of two independent states, Israel and Palestine—two peoples, living side by side in peace and security. Israel’s borders must be secure, recognized, and defensible, and it must be free to respond to hostilities that threaten its people. A future state of Palestine must be viable, contiguous, sovereign, and independent. The use of incitement, violence, unnecessary force, or terror to achieve political goals must be abandoned.”
Aside from being the first Palestinian on Capitol Hill, what distinguishes the young Congressman from Michigan is his reputation for engaging with his constituents online. With a Twitter following of more than 50,000 and a Facebook following of more than 90,000, Amash has been known to update his followers about his latest voting decisions through social media. In 2010, at the age of 30, Amash was the youngest candidate named one of Time Magazine’s “40 under 40 — Rising Stars of U.S. Politics.” He is currently running for re-election in the November 2014 midterm elections.
Twitter: @repjustinamash
IMDB: http://amash.house.gov/ (http://amash.house.gov/)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 12:49:21 am
He blames Israel.  IT IS BACKWARDS!   Palestine=HAMAS=ISLAMISTS.

His parents;  Parents: Attallah Amash, Mimi Amash


Who is named?  ATTALLAH?   
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 19, 2019, 12:49:58 am
   I'm coming after your President @LegalAmerican (as a libertarian).

(https://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Screen-Shot-2019-05-18-at-8.13.13-PM-300x202.png)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: mountaineer on May 19, 2019, 12:50:51 am
Where's the evidence he's Muslim?
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 12:52:54 am
You do realize who Justin Amash is, right? He's so far to the right, the Republicans look liberal in comparison.

CORRECT.  ATTALLAH AMASH.  BORN IN PALESTINE.  RINO. 

His parents;  Parents: Attallah Amash, Mimi Amash


Who is named?  ATTALLAH?   
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 19, 2019, 12:55:05 am
CORRECT.  ATTALLAH AMASH.  BORN IN PALESTINE.  RINO. 

His parents;  Parents: Attallah Amash, Mimi Amash


Who is named?  ATTALLAH?

I think that is his father.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: MOD4 on May 19, 2019, 12:56:41 am
Stop trolling our members @corbe
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 12:57:24 am
   I'm coming after your President @LegalAmerican (as a libertarian).

(https://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Screen-Shot-2019-05-18-at-8.13.13-PM-300x202.png)

lol. Too close to the word LIBERAL...and president is a CENTRIST.  SO, you want be another DIRTY DOZEN...LIKE RAND PAUL?  VOTE AGAINST NATIONAL EMERGENCY FOR THE WALL?  Who's side are the  RINO'S ON?  NOT AMERICAN'S.


Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 01:00:18 am
I think that is his father.

Yes. I said that is his parents.  My point was...ARAB..probably islamist.   :patriot:

Who says they want to dominate the world and put in SHARIA LAW? 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: mountaineer on May 19, 2019, 01:02:32 am
What you posted above says his parents are Christians. Where's the evidence Amash is Muslim?
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: libertybele on May 19, 2019, 01:03:42 am
You do realize who Justin Amash is, right? He's so far to the right, the Republicans look liberal in comparison.

He's rated as one of the top conservatives by 'Conservative Review' and he normally votes conservatively.  I'll wait to see what happens, but I'm somewhat surprised by his suggestion of impeachment. He's one of the last GOP that I'd expect this from.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 01:05:45 am
I agree, and with RINO'S like these with demon-rats...how can our country survive?  Then Lindsey Graham, who said if Trump fires SESSIONS..his presidency will be over..and no one will support his agenda. I think people need to look at CONGRESS..not president TRUMP.
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The 12 Senate Republicans who voted AGAINST president TRUMPS..National Emergency

 Roger Wicker of Mississippi,

Marco Rubio of Florida,

 Rob Portman of Ohio,
 Susan Collins of Maine,
 Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania,
 Roy Blunt of Missouri,
 Lamar Alexander of Tennessee,

 Mitt Romney of Utah,

 Rand Paul of Kentucky,
Jerry Moran of Kansas
and Mike Lee of Utah.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 19, 2019, 01:09:30 am
Then Lindsey Graham, who said if Trump fires SESSIONS..his presidency will be over..and no one will support his agenda. I think people need to look at CONGRESS..not president TRUMP.
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I think that Graham must be wrong because Trump fired Sessions and Trump is still President.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 19, 2019, 01:11:45 am
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So if I understand you correctly @LegalAmerican your done with this guy
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 01:13:16 am
What you posted above says his parents are Christians. Where's the evidence Amash is Muslim?

Obama was Christian too.  SNARK.  I guess you believed him also?  A born Palestinian is Christian..living in Palestine?   
More & more islamists are getting into congress.  He thinks he is conservative as all SHARIA believers think they are.
My proof?  HE BLAMES ISRAEL....IT IS ALWAYS HAMAS-PALESTINE that sends over rockets into Israel. Palestinians build tunnels to kidnap kids & Israel solders for torture.  HE says his parents are Christians.  I say CHRIS-LAM.  That is a religion in Africa for a long time now.  Do you need CAIR'S STATEMENT? 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 01:18:24 am
What you posted above says his parents are Christians. Where's the evidence Amash is Muslim?

Are you aware?  Now, how would C.A.I.R's objective be accomplished?   Just asking.
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1- Jihad, defined as****** "to war against non-Muslims *****to
establish the religion," *****is the**** duty of every Muslim***** and
Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in
violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.

34-It is ***obligatory for a Muslim to lie *****if the purpose is
obligatory. That means that for the ****sake of abiding with Islam's
commandments, such as jihad,**** a Muslim is obliged to lie**** and
should not have any feelings of guilt or shame associated with this
kind of lying."
http://www.lady-patriots.com/... (http://www.lady-patriots.com/...)

The leader and founder of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations)

Omar M. Ahmad said:

“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become
dominant,” he said. “The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should
be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted
religion on Earth,” 2014
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 19, 2019, 01:24:38 am
That right there sounds like what they call "Civilization Jihad," @LegalAmerican
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 19, 2019, 01:26:34 am
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Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 01:27:10 am
I think that Graham must be wrong because Trump fired Sessions and Trump is still President.

You would need to look at the date. McCain was still alive & they were butt buddy's. AFTER..McCains death..Graham became a republican again.  So far so good,,But I still can't trust him.  Yes he said that. So, SESSIONS was allowed to RECUSE himself for 2 years as our DOJ.  So, we the people & president had no DOJ for 2 years.  THERE WAS ZERO OBSTRUCTION by my president. That Amash is an IDIOT. 

Mueller said that, too. No collusion no obstruction. Amash from MICHIGAN.  I need to find out in a NO GO ZONE? 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 19, 2019, 01:34:42 am
You would need to look at the date. McCain was still alive & they were butt buddy's. AFTER..McCains death..Graham became a republican again.  So far so good,,But I still can't trust him.  Yes he said that. So, SESSIONS was allowed to RECUSE himself for 2 years as our DOJ.  So, we the people & president had no DOJ for 2 years.  THERE WAS ZERO OBSTRUCTION by my president. That Amash is an IDIOT. 

Mueller said that, too. No collusion no obstruction. Amash from MICHIGAN.  I need to find out in a NO GO ZONE?

You definitely don't want to go into a NO GO ZONE!!
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 19, 2019, 01:35:49 am
   Especially if your homophobe.



Ok I quit, I promise @Mod5
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 01:37:12 am

Lindsey Graham: No 'Holy Hell to Pay' for Sessions Firing

By Theodore Bunker    |   Friday, 09 November 2018 08:47 AM


Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., has walked back the vow he made last year that there would be “holy hell to pay” if President Donald Trump fired Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

“If Jeff Sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay,” Graham told reporters in July 2017, after Trump had turned on the attorney general for recusing himself from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian election interference.

“Any effort to go after Mueller could be the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency, unless Mueller did something wrong.”

On Thursday evening, Fox News’ Martha MacCallum played a clip of Graham’s promise, prompting him to ask, “when was that? What year?”

MacCallum told him, “July of 2017,” causing the senator to laugh, which prompted MacCallum to comment that “things have changed,” which made Graham laugh again.

“What I’ve been saying for months is every president deserves an attorney general they have confidence in and they can work with,” he said.

“I like Jeff Sessions. I’ve known Jeff for a long time. I hope he goes and runs for his old Senate seat in Alabama. It’s clear to me it’s not working, was not working between Attorney General Sessions and President Trump.”

Read Newsmax: Lindsey Graham: No 'Holy Hell to Pay' for Sessions Firing | Newsmax.com
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 01:39:40 am
That right there sounds like what they call "Civilization Jihad," @LegalAmerican

......Some people get it.   :thumbsup:
Islamization of countries. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: truth_seeker on May 19, 2019, 01:41:16 am
As I recall, this guy has been all over the map. 

And he gets elected with virtually noreal opposition.

He got his very own article on CNN


Maybe he could list the most important justification for impeachment, in his mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Amash
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 01:48:00 am

Old information from 2007..but nothing changes in the plan.  Note percentages.  We must be between 10 & 20 %.
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***Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.***

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.**** The religious component is a beard for all the other components.****

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called**** ‘religious rights.’****

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007).

 

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

***From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ). (Already done in USA at Walmart)


At this point,10%,  they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels: Obamcare does not have penalties for muslims ,only infidels in this country.

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%

***Palestine — Muslim 99%***

Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s (supposed) to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: we know however that this isn’t true is it...?

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

"Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons...and they are coming to a neighborhood near you...so keep thinking they are not going to harm you and they "accept" you."

 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 01:50:35 am
And he gets elected with virtually noreal opposition.

Maybe he could list the most important justification for impeachment, in his mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Amash

Like Omar?  From muslim hub.  Amash the same?  MICHIGAN.  I am ASKING..I DON'T KNOW. I suspect.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 02:03:10 am
OK..he is Libertarian. SO A LIBERAL. Like Rand Paul. Amash is from Grand Rapids, Mich.  A SANCTUARY CITY. FOR TERRORISTS.
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Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: dfwgator on May 19, 2019, 02:07:54 am
You do realize who Justin Amash is, right? He's so far to the right, the Republicans look liberal in comparison.

Well I believe that the political spectrum resembles a circle more than a line, and therefore, there's not a lot of difference between Far Right and Far Left.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 19, 2019, 02:10:58 am
Quote

Ronna McDaniel
 âœ”  @GOPChairwoman 

It’s sad to see Congressman Amash parroting the Democrats’ talking points on Russia.

The only people still fixated on the Russia collusion hoax are political foes of @realDonaldTrump hoping to defeat him in 2020 by any desperate means possible.

 2,423 
8:42 PM - May 18, 2019
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: libertybele on May 19, 2019, 02:28:33 am
It appears that he has considered challenging Trump and running 3rd party -- could be why he's suggesting impeachment??

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lawmaker-breaking-with-gop-accuses-trump-of-obstruction-impeachable-conduct (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lawmaker-breaking-with-gop-accuses-trump-of-obstruction-impeachable-conduct)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 02:54:43 am
Well I believe that the political spectrum resembles a circle more than a line, and therefore, there's not a lot of difference between Far Right and Far Left.

................... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 03:02:51 am



...... :thumbsup:

Makes HIM  a demon-rat , RINO. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 03:06:38 am
And he gets elected with virtually noreal opposition.

He got his very own article on CNN


Maybe he could list the most important justification for impeachment, in his mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Amash




CNN?   He is totally NOT A REPUBLICAN.  I say anti-American.   
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 19, 2019, 04:26:48 am
Yes. I said that is his parents.  My point was...ARAB..probably islamist.   :patriot:

Who says they want to dominate the world and put in SHARIA LAW?


Ignorance.  I know Christians from the ME.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 19, 2019, 04:47:08 am
   Especially if your homophobe.



Ok I quit, I promise @Mod5


Thank you @corbe.  I am glad you are here to sell rubber boots for the level of pure crap being posted.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Sanguine on May 19, 2019, 04:54:33 am

Thank you @corbe.  I am glad you are here to sell rubber boots for the level of pure crap being posted.

Tall rubber boots.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 19, 2019, 05:42:11 am
Looks like Rep Amash must have read the Mueller Report.

https://twitter.com/UrbanAchievr/status/1129890868884922374

Christian Vanderbrouk @UrbanAchievr

“no one outside the beltway cares about Justin Amash” is definitely a thing you could tell yourself to feel better
4:25 PM - 18 May 2019
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 19, 2019, 06:01:40 am
https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1129831615952236546

Justin Amash @justinamash

Here are my principal conclusions:
1. Attorney General Barr has deliberately misrepresented Mueller’s report.
2. President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct.
3. Partisanship has eroded our system of checks and balances.
4. Few members of Congress have read the report.
12:30 PM - 18 May 2019

I offer these conclusions only after having read Mueller’s redacted report carefully and completely, having read or watched pertinent statements and testimony, and having discussed this matter with my staff, who thoroughly reviewed materials and provided me with further analysis.

In comparing Barr’s principal conclusions, congressional testimony, and other statements to Mueller’s report, it is clear that Barr intended to mislead the public about Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s analysis and findings.

Barr’s misrepresentations are significant but often subtle, frequently taking the form of sleight-of-hand qualifications or logical fallacies, which he hopes people will not notice.

Under our Constitution, the president “shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” While “high Crimes and Misdemeanors” is not defined, the context implies conduct that violates the public trust.

Contrary to Barr’s portrayal, Mueller’s report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meet the threshold for impeachment.

In fact, Mueller’s report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence.

Impeachment, which is a special form of indictment, does not even require probable cause that a crime (e.g., obstruction of justice) has been committed; it simply requires a finding that an official has engaged in careless, abusive, corrupt, or otherwise dishonorable conduct.

While impeachment should be undertaken only in extraordinary circumstances, the risk we face in an environment of extreme partisanship is not that Congress will employ it as a remedy too often but rather that Congress will employ it so rarely that it cannot deter misconduct.

Our system of checks and balances relies on each branch’s jealously guarding its powers and upholding its duties under our Constitution. When loyalty to a political party or to an individual trumps loyalty to the Constitution, the Rule of Law—the foundation of liberty—crumbles.

We’ve witnessed members of Congress from both parties shift their views 180 degrees—on the importance of character, on the principles of obstruction of justice—depending on whether they’re discussing Bill Clinton or Donald Trump.

Few members of Congress even read Mueller’s report; their minds were made up based on partisan affiliation—and it showed, with representatives and senators from both parties issuing definitive statements on the 448-page report’s conclusions within just hours of its release.

America’s institutions depend on officials to uphold both the rules and spirit of our constitutional system even when to do so is personally inconvenient or yields a politically unfavorable outcome. Our Constitution is brilliant and awesome; it deserves a government to match it.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: truth_seeker on May 19, 2019, 06:27:41 am

Ignorance.  I know Christians from the ME.

Me too, and other non-muslims from the ME.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: dfwgator on May 19, 2019, 06:56:45 am


In comparing Barr’s principal conclusions, congressional testimony, and other statements to Mueller’s report, it is clear that Barr intended to mislead the public about Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s analysis and findings.

Specifics?


Barr’s misrepresentations are significant but often subtle, frequently taking the form of sleight-of-hand qualifications or logical fallacies, which he hopes people will not notice.

Such as?

 

Contrary to Barr’s portrayal, Mueller’s report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meet the threshold for impeachment.

Such as?


In fact, Mueller’s report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence.
Such as?

 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: dfwgator on May 19, 2019, 07:52:57 am
Well....well...well......

Amash was born in Michigan to a Palestinian Christian father and a Syrian Christian mother who had immigrated to the United States. He grew up in Kentwood, Michigan, and was the valedictorian of his high school class. He studied economics at the University of Michigan and then earned a law degree from the University of Michigan Law School, then worked as an attorney at his father's business before beginning his political career. He and his brothers are co-owners of their family business, Dynamic Source International which includes Amash Imports, Inc. (founded in 1956 and using the trade name of Amash Brothers Distributing and Michigan Industrial Tools) and others.[6][7] Their family businesses are heavily invested in China which include Trekton and other products.[8]


Follow the Money!
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 19, 2019, 09:35:11 am
Their family businesses are heavily invested in China[/b] which include Trekton and other products.[8]

Follow the Money!

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 19, 2019, 09:37:36 am
Specifics?

Such as?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/full-mueller-report-pdf/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/full-mueller-report-pdf/index.html)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 19, 2019, 10:17:16 am
   Yep, @rustynail they got him, this time. 
   As much as I dislike his discombobulated twitter feed, brought to me by @Right_in_Virginia daily, I do love the fact that he trolls the dems so well just begging them to try and Impeach him.

Well, if you don't like it @corbe  I'm out of it.  I'm sick and tired of being trolled by you.

@mystery-ak
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 19, 2019, 12:24:55 pm
Well....well...well......

Amash was born in Michigan to a Palestinian Christian father and a Syrian Christian mother who had immigrated to the United States. He grew up in Kentwood, Michigan, and was the valedictorian of his high school class. He studied economics at the University of Michigan and then earned a law degree from the University of Michigan Law School, then worked as an attorney at his father's business before beginning his political career. He and his brothers are co-owners of their family business, Dynamic Source International which includes Amash Imports, Inc. (founded in 1956 and using the trade name of Amash Brothers Distributing and Michigan Industrial Tools) and others.[6][7] Their family businesses are heavily invested in China which include Trekton and other products.[8]


Follow the Money!

Well, Well, Well, indeed!

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,362193.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,362193.0.html)

@dfwgator
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: sneakypete on May 19, 2019, 12:52:26 pm
The walls are closing in.

@rustynail

There is another post on TBR about this guy that exposes the fact that he makes up to a million a year from his company business dealings with China,and how he would stand to lose that money if Trump's policies with China are implemented.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: sneakypete on May 19, 2019, 12:55:16 pm
Unbelievable.  I'm having trouble believing Amash said this.

@Sanguine

Why? The company he owns pays him up to a million bucks a year,and the products (garden tools) his company sell are made in China.

Selfish self-interest at work here.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: sneakypete on May 19, 2019, 01:01:19 pm
He's rated as one of the top conservatives by 'Conservative Review' and he normally votes conservatively.  I'll wait to see what happens, but I'm somewhat surprised by his suggestion of impeachment. He's one of the last GOP that I'd expect this from.

@libertybele

If Trump shuts down imports from China he stands to lose up to a million bucks a year because his company imports all the garden tools they sell from China.

Bulls being gored is a GOOD thing unless it is YOUR bull.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 19, 2019, 01:05:57 pm
@libertybele

If Trump shuts down imports from China he stands to lose up to a million bucks a year because his company imports all the garden tools they sell from China.

Bulls being gored is a GOOD thing unless it is YOUR bull.
Maybe Rep Amash thinks U.S.-imposed tariffs are taxes on Americans, and President Trump is boasting that he loves collecting big taxes on Americans.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: sneakypete on May 19, 2019, 01:10:50 pm
Maybe Rep Amash thinks U.S.-imposed tariffs are taxes on Americans, and President Trump is boasting that he loves collecting big taxes on Americans.

@Once-Ler

Yeah,that must be it.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 19, 2019, 01:13:36 pm
@Once-Ler

Yeah,that must be it.
@sneakypete
 :beer:
I thought it would be harder to convince you.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: dancer on May 19, 2019, 03:01:51 pm
Odd that they all say Trump is guilty...worthy of impeachment, yet never give an example of wrong doing.
Mueller and his 16 Democratic lawyers could find nothing in 2 years and $30,000,000 later.
This is nothing short of persecution & attempted coup of PDJT. 

Dear Dems and Amash,
Give one example, just one...
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: austingirl on May 19, 2019, 03:32:05 pm
Even Romney isn't for impeachment. What is it that Amash doesn't understand about no indictments? :shrug:
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 19, 2019, 04:09:18 pm
Well....well...well......

Amash was born in Michigan to a Palestinian Christian father and a Syrian Christian mother who had immigrated to the United States. He grew up in Kentwood, Michigan, and was the valedictorian of his high school class. He studied economics at the University of Michigan and then earned a law degree from the University of Michigan Law School, then worked as an attorney at his father's business before beginning his political career. He and his brothers are co-owners of their family business, Dynamic Source International which includes Amash Imports, Inc. (founded in 1956 and using the trade name of Amash Brothers Distributing and Michigan Industrial Tools) and others.[6][7] Their family businesses are heavily invested in China which include Trekton and other products.[8]


Follow the Money!


People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!  I could follow Ivanka's money.  Donald Trumps money too.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 19, 2019, 04:12:01 pm
Even Romney isn't for impeachment. What is it that Amash doesn't understand about no indictments? :shrug:


I wouldn't call any of it ethical but I stop short of impeachment.  I am for a return to Constitutional government.  People of good character who don't need Russian help to get elected.  Who wants to be indebted to Russia?  People shouldn't need Russia to realize that Hillary Clinton is unelectable. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: skeeter on May 19, 2019, 04:15:46 pm

I wouldn't call any of it ethical but I stop short of impeachment.  I am for a return to Constitutional government.  People of good character who don't need Russian help to get elected.

I'm still waiting for someone, anyone to tell me what 'any of it' is.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Sanguine on May 19, 2019, 04:16:20 pm

I wouldn't call any of it ethical but I stop short of impeachment.  I am for a return to Constitutional government.  People of good character who don't need Russian help to get elected.

Well, it didn't work in this case because she didn't get elected.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 19, 2019, 04:19:32 pm
   I'd rather the Country NOT be dragged through another Impeachment hearing but politically I think it will damage he dems much more than the Reps so it's a win~win for the President.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 19, 2019, 04:23:36 pm
Well, it didn't work in this case because she didn't get elected.


And Trump didn't need Russia's help.  There was plenty to say that Hillary Clinton is a dirt bag liar that puts Americans at risk without the help of a foreign power.  And nobody knows what was expected for that help.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Sanguine on May 19, 2019, 04:25:45 pm

And Trump didn't need Russia's help.  There was plenty to say that Hillary Clinton is a dirt bag liar that puts Americans at risk without the help of a foreign power.  And nobody knows what was expected for that help.

Russia wasn't helping Trump.  They were and are trying to sow confusion and dissent and make it look like our electoral process is compromised.  In that they have been successful.  Remember, they also "helped" the Clinton campaign.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: skeeter on May 19, 2019, 04:30:37 pm

And Trump didn't need Russia's help.  There was plenty to say that Hillary Clinton is a dirt bag liar that puts Americans at risk without the help of a foreign power.  And nobody knows what was expected for that help.

How in the world was helping create the Steele Dossier intended to "help" Trump?
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: andy58-in-nh on May 19, 2019, 04:32:09 pm
There is no evidence that Trump did anything illegal in trying to influence or obstruct the investigation that, let us not forget, was occasioned by a conspiracy among his political opponents both in and out of government. The parameters of that conspiracy are only now themselves being investigated.

If you were framed for a crime you did not commit, would you forgo an opportunity to speak out upon or investigate the source of such baseless charges simply because some might view it as tampering or evidence of guilt?   

Of course not. And yet we must admit that impeachment is a political and not a criminal remedy, for which the definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors" was intentionally left vague. Congress is empowered to impeach and/or remove a sitting President, but they are equally susceptible to the social and electoral consequences of such actions.   
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: skeeter on May 19, 2019, 04:37:14 pm
There is no evidence that Trump did anything illegal in trying to influence or obstruct the investigation that, let us not forget, was occasioned by a conspiracy among his political opponents both in and out of government. The parameters of that conspiracy are only now themselves being investigated.

If you were framed for a crime you did not commit, would you forgo an opportunity to speak out upon or investigate the source of such baseless charges simply because some might view it as tampering or evidence of guilt?   

Of course not. And yet we must admit that impeachment is a political and not a criminal remedy, for which the definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors" was intentionally left vague. Congress is empowered to impeach and/or remove a sitting President, but they are equally susceptible to the social and electoral consequences of such actions.   

Impeachment is a political remedy but not an exclusively political one, as the rats & others are making it. There has to be something more substantive underlying it than 'I don't like the president'.

But of course they can try.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: austingirl on May 19, 2019, 04:46:40 pm
I'm still waiting for someone, anyone to tell me what 'any of it' is.

As I understand it, "any of it" refers to tweeting and complaining about being railroaded, something any innocent person would do.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: libertybele on May 19, 2019, 05:03:58 pm
@libertybele

If Trump shuts down imports from China he stands to lose up to a million bucks a year because his company imports all the garden tools they sell from China.

Bulls being gored is a GOOD thing unless it is YOUR bull.

I don't know if you saw my earlier post, but he has also commented that he has thought of running 3rd party to challenge Trump.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: sneakypete on May 19, 2019, 05:20:37 pm

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!  I could follow Ivanka's money.  Donald Trumps money too.

@Chosen Daughter

Nice try at a cheap shot. Trump will lose money too,if we cut off trade with China.

Maybe you could post a few photos of Boy Jorge or JEB to cheer yourself up? Or maybe Poppy and Boy Jorge socializing with Bubba?
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: sneakypete on May 19, 2019, 05:24:59 pm
Impeachment is a political remedy but not an exclusively political one, as the rats & others are making it. There has to be something more substantive underlying it than 'I don't like the president'.
 

@skeeter

Yeah,but if your goal is to sow discord amongst your opponents supporters to cut into their donations and political support,you can hurt them by just making the accusations,no proof or conviction needed.

It's not a search for justice,it's just a political strategy.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 19, 2019, 05:43:18 pm
Maybe Rep Amash thinks U.S.-imposed tariffs are taxes on Americans, and President Trump is boasting that he loves collecting big taxes on Americans.

And maybe you are again spewing the dreams that help you sleep nights.   :smokin:
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 19, 2019, 05:45:10 pm
@skeeter

Yeah,but if your goal is to sow discord amongst your opponents supporters to cut into their donations and political support,you can hurt them by just making the accusations,no proof or conviction needed.

It's not a search for justice,it's just a political strategy.

 :thumbsup: @sneakypete

It appears statists everywhere are in flop sweat mode.   88devil
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 19, 2019, 05:54:41 pm
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Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: libertybele on May 19, 2019, 05:56:44 pm
Russia wasn't helping Trump.  They were and are trying to sow confusion and dissent and make it look like our electoral process is compromised.  In that they have been successful.  Remember, they also "helped" the Clinton campaign.

The Muller witch hunt took nearly two years and what has become crystal clear to me is that Mueller, Rosenstein and cronies had ample time to bury any evidence that would point the fingers where they should have been pointed; at the Clinton campaign.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 19, 2019, 08:12:40 pm
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Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 19, 2019, 08:20:30 pm
There is no evidence that Trump did anything illegal in trying to influence or obstruct the investigation that, let us not forget, was occasioned by a conspiracy among his political opponents both in and out of government. The parameters of that conspiracy are only now themselves being investigated.

If you were framed for a crime you did not commit, would you forgo an opportunity to speak out upon or investigate the source of such baseless charges simply because some might view it as tampering or evidence of guilt?   

Of course not. And yet we must admit that impeachment is a political and not a criminal remedy, for which the definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors" was intentionally left vague. Congress is empowered to impeach and/or remove a sitting President, but they are equally susceptible to the social and electoral consequences of such actions.   

It’s not quite as clean as that.  Trump did some things that could be construed as possibly supporting a prosecution for obstruction - which is in part because the obstruction law is so broad (too broad imho) - but doesn’t appear to have done anything that is clearly within the core meaning of obstruction of justice.  In other words, pretty thin gruel. 

That being said, I see no basis for impeachment other than the democrats’ personal dislike.  In a way I hope the democrats are really stupid enough to start impeachment proceedings, because I think that will blow up in their faces worse than the impeachment of Clinton blew up in the faces of the GOP. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: skeeter on May 19, 2019, 08:31:49 pm
@Once-Ler

By the time the hysterics are finished 'Flynn's a good guy, I hope you can let this go" will become Trump's official EO written in Steve Bannon's blood delivered in a black document pouch in an alley behind the Willard hotel.

I'm looking forward to Flynn being justly sprung, BTW. What happened to him was the crime.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: dfwgator on May 19, 2019, 08:33:15 pm
It’s not quite as clean as that.  Trump did some things that could be construed as possibly supporting a prosecution for obstruction - which is in part because the obstruction law is so broad (too broad imho) - but doesn’t appear to have done anything that is clearly within the core meaning of obstruction of justice.  In other words, pretty thin gruel. 

That being said, I see no basis for impeachment other than the democrats’ personal dislike.  In a way I hope the democrats are really stupid enough to start impeachment proceedings, because I think that will blow up in their faces worse than the impeachment of Clinton blew up in the faces of the GOP.

No President has had as much of his dirty laundry aired out like Trump has,  you know damn well this is all child's play compared to what previous Presidents have done.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 19, 2019, 08:34:34 pm
No President has had as much of his dirty laundry aired out like Trump has,  you know damn well this is all child's play compared to what previous Presidents have done.

Like I said: thin gruel.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Sanguine on May 19, 2019, 09:06:42 pm
It’s not quite as clean as that.  Trump did some things that could be construed as possibly supporting a prosecution for obstruction - which is in part because the obstruction law is so broad (too broad imho) - but doesn’t appear to have done anything that is clearly within the core meaning of obstruction of justice.  In other words, pretty thin gruel. 

That being said, I see no basis for impeachment other than the democrats’ personal dislike.  In a way I hope the democrats are really stupid enough to start impeachment proceedings, because I think that will blow up in their faces worse than the impeachment of Clinton blew up in the faces of the GOP.

Good analysis.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: dfwgator on May 19, 2019, 09:13:34 pm
Good analysis.

Ok, so Trump isn't "squeaky clean". 

There never has been, nor will there ever be a "squeaky clean" politician.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 19, 2019, 09:16:34 pm
Ok, so Trump isn't "squeaky clean". 

There never has been, nor will there ever be a "squeaky clean" politician.


Politician.  What everyone missed that he was seasoned in politics.  He knew the ins and outs of getting what you want from Government.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 19, 2019, 10:12:35 pm
Ok, so Trump isn't "squeaky clean". 

There never has been, nor will there ever be a "squeaky clean" politician.

He has accumulated more than the average amount of dirt.  That being said, I don’t see the dirt he’s accumulated as being impeachable, and I rather suspect a sufficient number of senators feel the same way. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: skeeter on May 19, 2019, 10:25:36 pm
He has accumulated more than the average amount of dirt.  That being said, I don’t see the dirt he’s accumulated as being impeachable, and I rather suspect a sufficient number of senators feel the same way.

I agree Trump has made some bonehead moves over the past two years. Appointed some losers to important positions. Said some imprudent things.

But what is this 'dirt' of which you speak? Understanding that 'dirt' in this sense is usually used to describe something nefarious, underhanded. It seems as though aside from running his mouth Trump was completely cooperative with the Mueller probe.

If you are referring to his previously having private business interests in countries with whom he is now dealing with as president extra scrutiny is warranted, but has anyone actually uncovered wrongdoing or evidence of such on his part?
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: libertybele on May 19, 2019, 11:04:30 pm
I agree Trump has made some bonehead moves over the past two years. Appointed some losers to important positions. Said some imprudent things.

But what is this 'dirt' of which you speak? Understanding that 'dirt' in this sense is usually used to describe something nefarious, underhanded. It seems as though aside from running his mouth Trump was completely cooperative with the Mueller probe.

If you are referring to his previously having private business interests in countries with whom he is now dealing with as president extra scrutiny is warranted, but has anyone actually uncovered wrongdoing or evidence of such on his part?

IF Amash, truly had any 'dirt' on President Trump, I would think that he'd be stating specifics, rather than saying he read the Mueller report and found there to be impeachable offenses.  What are they?
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: austingirl on May 19, 2019, 11:06:32 pm
I agree Trump has made some bonehead moves over the past two years. Appointed some losers to important positions. Said some imprudent things.

But what is this 'dirt' of which you speak? Understanding that 'dirt' in this sense is usually used to describe something nefarious, underhanded. It seems as though aside from running his mouth Trump was completely cooperative with the Mueller probe.

If you are referring to his previously having private business interests in countries with whom he is now dealing with as president extra scrutiny is warranted, but has anyone actually uncovered wrongdoing or evidence of such on his part?

If there had been the slightest whiff on a crime, he would have been indicted by Mueller who indicted people for forgetting a years-old email. The ten "possible instances of obstruction" were a smear written by Wiseman and analyzed by Levin and DiGenova as such. Barr deemed the legal theory behind them questionable and said they did not constitute a crime. That the piece of trash volume 2 was released is shameful.

I don't like Trump's personal style and cringe at his disjointed way of speaking, but he is running the country a whole hell of a lot better than Bammy. It's a shame he's being fought by the GOP RINOS because so much more could have been accomplished.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 19, 2019, 11:25:12 pm
If there had been the slightest whiff on a crime, he would have been indicted by Mueller who indicted people for forgetting a years-old email. The ten "possible instances of obstruction" were a smear written by Wiseman and analyzed by Levin and DiGenova as such. Barr deemed the legal theory behind them questionable and said they did not constitute a crime. That the piece of trash volume 2 was released is shameful.

I don't like Trump's personal style and cringe at his disjointed way of speaking, but he is running the country a whole hell of a lot better than Bammy. It's a shame he's being fought by the GOP RINOS because so much more could have been accomplished.

That's about where I line up.  I cringe almost every time he speaks.  I give him credit when he does something right, and will point out when he doesn't.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on May 19, 2019, 11:35:15 pm
IF Amash, truly had any 'dirt' on President Trump, I would think that he'd be stating specifics, rather than saying he read the Mueller report and found there to be impeachable offenses.  What are they?

Serious question:  Is the report currently classified, and/or is access being restricted while [someone] determines which if any parts need to remain classified (or are pertinent to ongoing investigations)?   It seems to me that it could be that he has read it, and can share his conclusion that impeachable offenses were committed, but can't be specific at this time.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 19, 2019, 11:59:59 pm

Ignorance.  I know Christians from the ME.


Nice you know that.  So do i.  Now what?  We are talking about THIS MAN.  I am not concerned about any CHRISTIANS from the M.E.  This man supports Palesntine & is against Israel. He says It. He blames Israel when it is Palestinians sending all the rockets over into ISRAEL.  My stats say in 2007, Palestinians are 99% muslims.  HAMAS=Islamists=Palestinians.

With Obama, only terrorists came in from M.E.  Christians were not coming in!  So you think, I am ignorant?  Aren't you special & virtue signaling.   ****slapping.  BYE
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 20, 2019, 12:09:06 am
Well....well...well......

Amash was born in Michigan to a Palestinian Christian father and a Syrian Christian mother who had immigrated to the United States. He grew up in Kentwood, Michigan, and was the valedictorian of his high school class. He studied economics at the University of Michigan and then earned a law degree from the University of Michigan Law School, then worked as an attorney at his father's business before beginning his political career. He and his brothers are co-owners of their family business, Dynamic Source International which includes Amash Imports, Inc. (founded in 1956 and using the trade name of Amash Brothers Distributing and Michigan Industrial Tools) and others.[6][7] Their family businesses are heavily invested in China which include Trekton and other products.[8]

Follow the Money!


GOOD FIND!    :thumbsup:

 So, he says screw Americans & our country...AS LONG AS THEY keep getting their millions!  Not what is good for the country.  Not enough millions..yet?  They still would make money.  It would just be better for Americans as a whole. 


Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 20, 2019, 12:17:53 am
If there had been the slightest whiff on a crime, he would have been indicted by Mueller who indicted people for forgetting a years-old email. The ten "possible instances of obstruction" were a smear written by Wiseman and analyzed by Levin and DiGenova as such. Barr deemed the legal theory behind them questionable and said they did not constitute a crime. That the piece of trash volume 2 was released is shameful.

I don't like Trump's personal style and cringe at his disjointed way of speaking, but he is running the country a whole hell of a lot better than Bammy. It's a shame he's being fought by the GOP RINOS because so much more could have been accomplished.


lol. I have such ZERO issue with his personal style and way of speaking !   In my eyes he does it all well!  He is none P.C. and blunt...LIKE I AM.   :seeya:  That is what we need and most people..esp.MEN..love that about him.  Maybe all that LEFT trashing him daily about his style has influenced you? And others?  There is nothing wrong with him.  All the people on here virtue signaling how GRAND they are...versus THE PRESIDENT, does make giggle.   I think you all have been brainwashed by MEDIA to think like this.   He is a billionaire and president with all of those traits.  Yet, you all are 'better". 

He is a breath of fresh air, compared to decades of brain washing and P.C. SPEAK.  "hate speak laws"=ANY TRUTH.

You all need to have the the intestinal fortitude to watch this video from start to finish.  You all have been brainwashed for decades.  This started a long time ago against TRUMP.  JEALOUS MEN. Look at old TV shows. Always putting him down!
Asking him how much things COST, then berate him for telling it, calling him "bragging".  THEY ASK ALL THE TIME! 
Dan Rather, Lettermen. Roseann Barr. I doubt most of you will do this.
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Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 20, 2019, 12:26:26 am
If there had been the slightest whiff on a crime, he would have been indicted by Mueller who indicted people for forgetting a years-old email. The ten "possible instances of obstruction" were a smear written by Wiseman and analyzed by Levin and DiGenova as such. Barr deemed the legal theory behind them questionable and said they did not constitute a crime. That the piece of trash volume 2 was released is shameful.

I don't like Trump's personal style and cringe at his disjointed way of speaking, but he is running the country a whole hell of a lot better than Bammy. It's a shame he's being fought by the GOP RINOS because so much more could have been accomplished.

Mueller would not have indicted Trump for anything.  That would have been left up to the Attorney General. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 20, 2019, 12:27:58 am
That's about where I line up.  I cringe almost every time he speaks.  I give him credit when he does something right, and will point out when he doesn't.

So. Edjames...YOU are a billionaire too?  JAMES TOWERS?    888mouth
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 20, 2019, 12:30:17 am
I agree Trump has made some bonehead moves over the past two years. Appointed some losers to important positions. Said some imprudent things.

But what is this 'dirt' of which you speak? Understanding that 'dirt' in this sense is usually used to describe something nefarious, underhanded. It seems as though aside from running his mouth Trump was completely cooperative with the Mueller probe.

If you are referring to his previously having private business interests in countries with whom he is now dealing with as president extra scrutiny is warranted, but has anyone actually uncovered wrongdoing or evidence of such on his part?

He did try to interfere with the investigation. He also tried to suborn perjury.  It’s in the public portions of the Mueller report. 

The evidence is subject to interpretation, and could support a prosecution for obstruction.  But they are thin and are also subject to a non-criminal interpretation.  In other words, reasonable minds can disagree about what the evidence shows.  And that’s what’s happening.  However, to me, that’s also why there is not sufficient grounds for impeachment.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 20, 2019, 12:39:42 am
So. Edjames...YOU are a billionaire too?  JAMES TOWERS?    888mouth

Why yes!!

Don't you see them dominating the skylines all over the world!!
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 20, 2019, 12:53:17 am
   My x sister in law rents an apartment in one of your Towers @EdJames she was thrown out  of her NYC rent controlled building by Eric Trump.

(https://images1.apartments.com/i2/-DKWjXBkmkVniCZMaFJGYyoZHJfsgOrSRicY2KpX9Kk/117/st-james-towers-brooklyn-ny-primary-photo.jpg)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 20, 2019, 01:07:12 am
   My x sister in law rents an apartment in one of your Towers @EdJames she was thrown out  of her NYC rent controlled building by Eric Trump.

(https://images1.apartments.com/i2/-DKWjXBkmkVniCZMaFJGYyoZHJfsgOrSRicY2KpX9Kk/117/st-james-towers-brooklyn-ny-primary-photo.jpg)

If I had to guess she is probably in one of my towers in Houston, or maybe Austin.

If she needs any help just have her ask to speak to "Stosh," same guy in either location.  Unlike the Trumps, I hire displaced Eastern Europeans and let them earn their keep, rather that sell them a bill of goods.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 20, 2019, 01:19:48 am
   She runs a Columbian prostitution ring in your Austin building, I doubt if she'll want to bring any attention to herself. 
   Apparently your guy 'stosh' want's less of a cut than Eric did.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: skeeter on May 20, 2019, 01:26:47 am
He did try to interfere with the investigation. He also tried to suborn perjury.  It’s in the public portions of the Mueller report. 

The evidence is subject to interpretation, and could support a prosecution for obstruction.  But they are thin and are also subject to a non-criminal interpretation.  In other words, reasonable minds can disagree about what the evidence shows.  And that’s what’s happening.  However, to me, that’s also why there is not sufficient grounds for impeachment.
A fair assessment. And, IMHO, not at all equal to an ‘above average’ accumulation of dirt.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 20, 2019, 01:33:41 am
   She runs a Columbian prostitution ring in your Austin building, I doubt if she'll want to bring any attention to herself. 
   Apparently your guy 'stosh' want's less of a cut than Eric did.

As long as he gets 90% of the rent deposited on time and keeps me out of court, Stosh is free to pocket as much as he can on the side.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 20, 2019, 01:45:08 am
On a side.  We had a thread on here about president TRUMP using a 'voice' like the person who made a comment.  WE ALL DO THIS.  Listen to Stephen...he does the same things..when telling a story.  WE ALL DO IT...BUT WHEN PRESIDENT TOLD a STORY..IT WAS "SOLD"' AS MOCKING.   Some of you bought into it.  The best president ever for America...and people keep looking for some way to put him down.  Draft #580. & TWICE A-1, once Y-1, so 3 years of possible drafting.  Draft ended. BILL CLINTON, JOE BIDEN, BERNIE SANDERS, OBAMA...none of them had any military service!  President had 4 years in military school, mentored by a retired gerneral, and was a captain, I believe.  I don't know about ranks. If drafted, he would have been an OFFICER. NOW, he is serving as commander-in-chief.  14 attempts on his life & more. Just as dangerous.

I found out Ivama MANAGED all the casino's and went into Chapter 11. Reorganization and everyone was paid on schedule of time.

Her getting into management, destroyed their marriage and business.  She would scream at people. NOT ONCE HAS HE BLAMED IVANA for doing that. He took it all himself.  YES. JEALOUSY IS THE CAUSE OF ALL EVIL.  I see it all the time.
There are 2 more video's chronically listing, all the lies & slander. They are being removed or hard to find.  TRUTH.
There are 60+million ILLEGALS IN AMERICA from Stat, in 2016, before open borders under obama.   IN 2002 the guess was 40 million or more by IMMIGRANT SITE.  Anti-Semitic? His daughter & 3 grand kids are Jewish, & Jewish son-in-law.
None of us would be able to hold up, under this kind of slander. Look on here!  Racist? 1986 Ellis Island Award for NOT BEING RACIST.

I am done. I don't know how to make my own thread, or if I am allowed to do that.  Cyber?  Private message? 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Sanguine on May 20, 2019, 01:57:36 am
That's about where I line up.  I cringe almost every time he speaks.  I give him credit when he does something right, and will point out when he doesn't.

 888high58888
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Sanguine on May 20, 2019, 01:59:44 am
Mueller would not have indicted Trump for anything.  That would have been left up to the Attorney General.

Ah, but he could have recommended indictments.  He didn't.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 20, 2019, 02:12:44 am
   You are simply amazing @LegalAmerican
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 20, 2019, 02:28:53 am
   You are simply amazing @LegalAmerican


SO..coming from you is that  SNARK?   

http://youtu.be/Gw8c2Cq-vpg (http://youtu.be/Gw8c2Cq-vpg)

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Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 20, 2019, 02:34:23 am
Ah, but he could have recommended indictments.  He didn't.

Quite true.  And that he did not is circumstantial evidence of the weakness of the evidence he found contra Trump. 

However, it is also likely - more likely - that he would have followed the lead of those who investigated Nixon and leave a roadmap or trail of breadcrumbs to facilitate an impeachment, and leave such a politically charged decision to Congress. 

So, all things being equal, I don’t think he would have recommended an indictment against Trump even if there was clear evidence of criminality. 

People on both sides of the political spectrum need to be a little more honest and engaged with the facts:  Trump engaged in misbehavior, but not clearly criminal conduct; he’s a hot mess, just not an obvious criminal.  And at the end of the day, if Clinton’s actions in abusing the power of his office to bed interns and to then lie about it under oath - clearly criminal conduct - wasn’t sufficient to justify his impeachment, then neither is Trump’s misbehavior.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: DCPatriot on May 20, 2019, 02:45:40 am
   My x sister in law rents an apartment in one of your Towers @EdJames she was thrown out  of her NYC rent controlled building by Eric Trump.

(https://images1.apartments.com/i2/-DKWjXBkmkVniCZMaFJGYyoZHJfsgOrSRicY2KpX9Kk/117/st-james-towers-brooklyn-ny-primary-photo.jpg)

From what number floor did he throw her?    :laugh: 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 20, 2019, 02:47:19 am
From what number floor did he throw her?    :laugh: 

Good one!

:silly:
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 20, 2019, 03:04:04 am
Quite true.  And that he did not is circumstantial evidence of the weakness of the evidence he found contra Trump. 

However, it is also likely - more likely - that he would have followed the lead of those who investigated Nixon and leave a roadmap or trail of breadcrumbs to facilitate an impeachment, and leave such a politically charged decision to Congress. 

So, all things being equal, I don’t think he would have recommended an indictment against Trump even if there was clear evidence of criminality. 

People on both sides of the political spectrum need to be a little more honest and engaged with the facts:  Trump engaged in misbehavior, but not clearly criminal conduct; he’s a hot mess, just not an obvious criminal.  And at the end of the day, if Clinton’s actions in abusing the power of his office to bed interns and to then lie about it under oath - clearly criminal conduct - wasn’t sufficient to justify his impeachment, then neither is Trump’s misbehavior.



TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU!  You lived in TRUMP TOWERS?  You watched Trumps every move?  BOGUS!  HAVE YOU CHECKED INTO JUDICIAL WATCH...corruption list?  YEARLY?  All the people in congress, being millionaires on about $174, OOO...a year?  Give me a break. You would be guilty. if we went through all of YOUR BUSINESS!  ALL OF US WOULD BE GUILTY.  ALL OF US.  GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE & DOUBLE STANDARD...WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP.  YOU TICK ME OFF..with your arrogant, type of posting.  As if.. YOU..know it all.  So, I will put you on ignore.  ZERO PRESIDENT TRUMP MISBEHAVIOR.  THAT IS A LIE.  What must you think about Obama, Joe Biden, Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, Maxine Waters, Sheila Lee, Hank Johnson, Elija Cummings SIT IN in congress to remove our 2ND?   UGH!


Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 20, 2019, 03:11:07 am
I agree Trump has made some bonehead moves over the past two years. Appointed some losers to important positions. Said some imprudent things.

But what is this 'dirt' of which you speak? Understanding that 'dirt' in this sense is usually used to describe something nefarious, underhanded. It seems as though aside from running his mouth Trump was completely cooperative with the Mueller probe.

If you are referring to his previously having private business interests in countries with whom he is now dealing with as president extra scrutiny is warranted, but has anyone actually uncovered wrongdoing or evidence of such on his part?


I can't believe some of you people on here!  ZERO, BONE HEAD decisions.  He does not run his mouth.  He speaks the truth.
Some of you men, need to stop being in competition with him and trying to boost yourselves up, by these kind of comments. SHAME. I know it when I see it.  You butt heads with ALPHA MALE and need to put him down.
Get rid of your egos.  That is, what is the issue. Same with Mitt Romney.  JEALOUSY.  WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)

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Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 20, 2019, 03:14:19 am


TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU!  You lived in TRUMP TOWERS?  You watched Trumps every move?  BOGUS!  HAVE YOU CHECKED INTO JUDICIAL WATCH...corruption list?  YEARLY?  All the people in congress, being millionaires on about $174, OOO...a year?  Give me a break. You would be guilty. if we went through all of YOUR BUSINESS!  ALL OF US WOULD BE GUILTY.  ALL OF US.  GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE & DOUBLE STANDARD...WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP.  YOU TICK ME OFF..with your arrogant, type of posting.  As if.. YOU..know it all.  So, I will put you on ignore.  ZERO PRESIDENT TRUMP MISBEHAVIOR.  THAT IS A LIE.  What must you think about Obama, Joe Biden, Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, Maxine Waters, Sheila Lee, Hank Johnson, Elija Cummings SIT IN in congress to remove our 2ND?   UGH!




Thank you for proving my point.

Trump will go down in history as a mediocre president on a par with, or slightly below, GWB.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: dfwgator on May 20, 2019, 03:20:26 am
Thank you for proving my point.

Trump will go down in history as a mediocre president on a par with, or slightly below, GWB.

Because both parties are vested in him not succeeding.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 20, 2019, 03:22:03 am
Because both parties are vested in him not succeeding.

No, because he's not a very good president.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 20, 2019, 03:28:30 am

Quote from: Bill Cipher on Today at 11:14:19 PM
Thank you for proving my point.

Trump will go down in history as a mediocre president on a par with, or slightly below, GWB.

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You proved nothing. You are on ignore and another poster copied it. YOU PROVE MY POINT.  AREN'T YOU UPPITY and arrogant to even post that!  Were YOU ever president?  YOU..want to critique TWO PRESIDENTS?  People talk about putting President TRUMP on Mt. Rushmore!  All UN-BIASED, NON BIGOTED, people say He is the BEST PRESIDENT IN THEIR WHOLE LIFE TIMES!  THEY ARE IN 60'S. 70'S...I've been around since Eisenhower.  You probably think Obama was great!  You have ZERO STANDARDS.


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Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 20, 2019, 03:32:27 am
Quote from: Bill Cipher on Today at 11:14:19 PM
Thank you for proving my point.

Trump will go down in history as a mediocre president on a par with, or slightly below, GWB.

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You proved nothing. You are on ignore and another poster copied it. YOU PROVE MY POINT.  AREN'T YOU UPPITY and arrogant to even post that!  Were YOU ever president?  YOU..want to critique TWO PRESIDENTS?  People talk about putting President TRUMP on Mt. Rushmore!  All UN-BIASED, NON BIGOTED, people say He is the BEST PRESIDENT IN THEIR WHOLE LIFE TIMES!  THEY ARE IN 60'S. 70'S...I've been around since Eisenhower.  You probably think Obama was great!  You have ZERO STANDARDS.


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Wow.  A two-fer.  Thanks for proving my point twice.

Trump is a hot mess as a leader; he is not a very good president, and history will regard him as such.  Sorry if that "triggers" you, but them's the facts.

Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 20, 2019, 05:24:45 am
OfF the Cuff president.  ALL  COMMON SENSE. 
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Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: sneakypete on May 20, 2019, 10:27:00 am
Thank you for proving my point.

Trump will go down in history as a mediocre president on a par with, or slightly below, GWB.

@Bill Cipher

Boy Jorge was more than mediocre. He was a traitor that rented out the US military to his Saud boyfriend for personal profits for his family,and who went into business with the freaking Chinese to sell out America and American jobs.

Maybe the most corrupt and worse president in the history of our nation. Made Bubba look like a shoplifter by comparison.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 20, 2019, 11:54:39 am
Trump is a hot mess as a leader; he is not a very good president, and history will regard him as such.  Sorry if that "triggers" you, but them's the facts.

Oh, look, you've returned to share your latest wet dream with us.  Very sweet of you @Bill Cipher
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: libertybele on May 20, 2019, 12:58:46 pm
Thank you for proving my point.

Trump will go down in history as a mediocre president on a par with, or slightly below, GWB.

His term is not up yet, so I think its a little premature at this point in time to make that declaration. 

We don't yet know the results of his tariffs on China.  We don't know what is going to happen with Iran; though evacuations in the embassy in Iraq have started and Exxon Mobil has also begun evacuating an Iraqi oil field.

He may very well be labeled as the President that gave up American sovereignty and FAILED on the very issue that he campaigned on.  The crisis at the border and the continued invasion should not be discounted.  Under GWB the Secure Fence Act was passed and 700 miles of border wall was directed by Congress to be built (yes, never fully funded). Trump has taken us backwards on handling the border crisis with numbers coming across the border in unprecedented numbers as never experienced  in history.  He also took us backwards on illegal immigration by allowing states to opt out of a barrier. How possibly can the fence be fully completed now? As a result of his running his mouth and making threats that he was going to build a beautiful wall and have Mexico pay for it, we now have illegals pouring over our borders from over 50 different countries.  The invasion is now to a point that the Trump administration is allowing illegals to be dumped in various different countries within the U.S. He agreed to allow the UN to handle the asylum process and place those refugees, including inside the U.S.

Closer to 2020, I'd say would be a more fair evaluation; the crisis at the border may or may not resolve, the tariffs may prove to be beneficial to the U.S. and he may 'tame' the ME.

Time will tell.  If he is re-elected in 2020, he of course will have another 4 years to be evaluated.

Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: skeeter on May 20, 2019, 01:10:53 pm

I can't believe some of you people on here!  ZERO, BONE HEAD decisions.  He does not run his mouth.  He speaks the truth.
Some of you men, need to stop being in competition with him and trying to boost yourselves up, by these kind of comments. SHAME. I know it when I see it.  You butt heads with ALPHA MALE and need to put him down.
Get rid of your egos.  That is, what is the issue. Same with Mitt Romney.  JEALOUSY.  WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwJZGlC5lXM&list=PLMNj_r5bccUy0Bh2OdYn2cKe5S2ybCAHf&index=2#)
Sheesh. You need to dial back a bit.

I'm a supporter, I'm glad he's president. But to be unable to admit he's made some key errors does your credibility no good at all.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 20, 2019, 01:41:58 pm
His term is not up yet, so I think its a little premature at this point in time to make that declaration. 

We don't yet know the results of his tariffs on China.  We don't know what is going to happen with Iran; though evacuations in the embassy in Iraq have started and Exxon Mobil has also begun evacuating an Iraqi oil field.

He may very well be labeled as the President that gave up American sovereignty and FAILED on the very issue that he campaigned on.  The crisis at the border and the continued invasion should not be discounted.  Under GWB the Secure Fence Act was passed and 700 miles of border wall was directed by Congress to be built (yes, never fully funded). Trump has taken us backwards on handling the border crisis with numbers coming across the border in unprecedented numbers as never experienced  in history.  He also took us backwards on illegal immigration by allowing states to opt out of a barrier. How possibly can the fence be fully completed now? As a result of his running his mouth and making threats that he was going to build a beautiful wall and have Mexico pay for it, we now have illegals pouring over our borders from over 50 different countries.  The invasion is now to a point that the Trump administration is allowing illegals to be dumped in various different countries within the U.S. He agreed to allow the UN to handle the asylum process and place those refugees, including inside the U.S.

Closer to 2020, I'd say would be a more fair evaluation; the crisis at the border may or may not resolve, the tariffs may prove to be beneficial to the U.S. and he may 'tame' the ME.

Time will tell.  If he is re-elected in 2020, he of course will have another 4 years to be evaluated.


Good post, but I don't think we can afford 4 more years to evaluate.  He has been leading us on about NK.  I don't think he has made any progress.  Pulling out of Afghanistan if you are going to engage in Iran sounds dangerous.  Taliban will fight with Iran.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: libertybele on May 20, 2019, 09:00:53 pm

Good post, but I don't think we can afford 4 more years to evaluate.  He has been leading us on about NK.  I don't think he has made any progress.  Pulling out of Afghanistan if you are going to engage in Iran sounds dangerous.  Taliban will fight with Iran.

Well, we certainly can't afford a allow a DEM to take over and so far there is no alternative to Trump in the GOP. Time is ticking before the 2020 election. No one is coming forward to challenge him, and quite honestly who at this point is going to want to attempt to straighten up his fiasco at the border?  Nor the tariffs, etc.

Amash is a joke.  The only thing he is going to accomplish if he runs 3rd party is take votes away from Trump and in all probability hand the oval office to the DEMS.  If he truly felt he had a chance at winning, why wouldn't he challenge Trump on the GOP ticket?
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: mountaineer on May 20, 2019, 09:08:00 pm

Good post, but I don't think we can afford 4 more years to evaluate.  He has been leading us on about NK.  I don't think he has made any progress.  Pulling out of Afghanistan if you are going to engage in Iran sounds dangerous.  Taliban will fight with Iran.
Who is your choice, then?

Edit to add: I'm not trying to be rude, I just really wonder whether any good conservative plans to run against the president. Heaven knows I did not initially support DJT in 2016, because I thought others would have made better presidents. However, he is the one who was elected and there is not way on earth I ever could vote for the Democrats in their current state of insanity and socialistic fury.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 20, 2019, 09:21:14 pm
   I agree @libertybele I am not gonna cut off my nose to spite my face and IMHO 80+% of *Conservative* #Nevers out there feel the same.
   I will vote dem after I'm dead because that's the way it is and not before.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 20, 2019, 09:58:47 pm
Republican Justin Amash Tweets New Thread Calling for Trump's Impeachment

Alexandra Hutzler
 
1 hr ago

 
Despite backlash from Donald Trump and Republican leadership, Representative Justin Amash has renewed his calls for impeachment and explained why the president’s supporters are wrong about his innocence.

In a series of tweets on Monday, the Republican congressman from Michigan slammed Trump supporters for ignoring the facts of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on the Russia investigation.

“People who say there were no underlying crimes and therefore the president could not have intended to illegally obstruct the investigation—and therefore cannot be impeached—are resting their argument on several falsehoods,” Amash wrote.

Amash added that there were “many crimes” revealed by Mueller’s two-year probe into Russian election interference and while not all of them were prosecuted they were detailed in the 448-page redacted report.

<..snip..>

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-justin-amash-tweets-new-thread-calling-for-trumps-impeachment/ar-AABDHTC?ocid=ientp (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-justin-amash-tweets-new-thread-calling-for-trumps-impeachment/ar-AABDHTC?ocid=ientp)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: libertybele on May 20, 2019, 11:14:38 pm
Republican Justin Amash Tweets New Thread Calling for Trump's Impeachment

Alexandra Hutzler
 
1 hr ago

 
Despite backlash from Donald Trump and Republican leadership, Representative Justin Amash has renewed his calls for impeachment and explained why the president’s supporters are wrong about his innocence.

In a series of tweets on Monday, the Republican congressman from Michigan slammed Trump supporters for ignoring the facts of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on the Russia investigation.

“People who say there were no underlying crimes and therefore the president could not have intended to illegally obstruct the investigation—and therefore cannot be impeached—are resting their argument on several falsehoods,” Amash wrote.

Amash added that there were “many crimes” revealed by Mueller’s two-year probe into Russian election interference and while not all of them were prosecuted they were detailed in the 448-page redacted report.

<..snip..>

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-justin-amash-tweets-new-thread-calling-for-trumps-impeachment/ar-AABDHTC?ocid=ientp (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-justin-amash-tweets-new-thread-calling-for-trumps-impeachment/ar-AABDHTC?ocid=ientp)

Well, given that a Pub is calling for impeachment in the House, I think it's probably going to happen and not so sure that the GOPe members of the Senate won't vote to convict him.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: mrclose on May 21, 2019, 12:13:01 am
The stories out about his family's interest in importing tools from China, but stamping "U.S.A." on them!
Trump takes a hard line against China, adding tariffs, and Amash calls for Trump's impeachment.

http://dcwhispers.com/is-anti-trump-republican-justin-amash-choosing-china-over-america/#HcScAvAviwqzD3zf.97 (http://dcwhispers.com/is-anti-trump-republican-justin-amash-choosing-china-over-america/#HcScAvAviwqzD3zf.97)

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KATE'S LAW

Quote
On Thursday, 24 Democrats voted with Republicans to pass the legislation, though 166 other members of the caucus voted no on the bill.

Only one Republican, Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich., voted against it.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/24-house-democrats-side-with-gop-vote-for-kates-law (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/24-house-democrats-side-with-gop-vote-for-kates-law)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: austingirl on May 21, 2019, 01:01:45 am
The stories out about his family's interest in importing tools from China, but stamping "U.S.A." on them!
Trump takes a hard line against China, adding tariffs, and Amash calls for Trump's impeachment.

http://dcwhispers.com/is-anti-trump-republican-justin-amash-choosing-china-over-america/#HcScAvAviwqzD3zf.97 (http://dcwhispers.com/is-anti-trump-republican-justin-amash-choosing-china-over-america/#HcScAvAviwqzD3zf.97)

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KATE'S LAW


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/24-house-democrats-side-with-gop-vote-for-kates-law (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/24-house-democrats-side-with-gop-vote-for-kates-law)


Who besides a democommie could vote against Kate's law- Amash.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 21, 2019, 01:11:46 am
Quote
Justin Amash
about 2 years ago.

I voted no on #HR3004, Kate's Law.

This bill is narrower than other recent bills that also have been called "Kate's Law."

This version of Kate's Law changes the maximum possible punishments for some individuals convicted of re-entering the United States illegally and changes the procedures for prosecuting illegal re-entry. My concern with this bill stems from a provision that denies Fifth Amendment due process to certain criminal defendants.

As its text makes clear, the Fifth Amendment applies explicitly to all "person(s)" within the United States, including suspected illegal aliens who are arrested, charged, and tried within the United States. [More precisely, this amendment secures the rights of individuals under U.S. jurisdiction by identifying limits on the government’s power.] The Constitution uses the word "citizen" in other provisions whenever that word is intended. This interpretation of the Constitution's applicability is shared by the Supreme Court, including among the conservative justices.

Under current law, it is illegal to re-enter the United States if you have an outstanding order of removal. The removal order is an element of the crime, and a defendant may challenge the validity of the order, but only in limited circumstances. To challenge the validity of a removal order under current law, the defendant must show that she has used up all other opportunities to challenge the order, she has been denied her right to have a judge review her case, and the removal order was "fundamentally unfair."

This bill unconstitutionally eliminates the opportunity for those charged with illegal re-entry to challenge the validity of a removal order. As noted above, the removal order is an element of the crime. In our criminal justice system, a person cannot be convicted of a crime unless the prosecution proves every element beyond a reasonable doubt.

If a defendant never has a meaningful opportunity to have a judge review her removal order and, under this bill, she is prohibited from challenging her removal order during the criminal proceedings for illegal re-entry, then she could be convicted of a felony without ever having had the chance to challenge whether the order to remove her—which is an element of the crime!—was legally valid. As the Supreme Court held in United States v. Mendoza-Lopez, 481 U.S. 828 (1987), this would be a violation of the defendant's due process rights.

Under current removal procedures, this circumstance may be rare, but that is irrelevant to the fact that the Constitution secures the defendant's rights when this circumstance does arise.

It passed 257-167.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 21, 2019, 01:47:42 am
   Look, I'll admit to my Briefer Friends that I'm still not on the 'Burn Justin Amash Train'.  I still believe him to be a Solid Constitutionist that has obviously run afoul of the most avid and vocal Trumpers, so be it, $hit happens. 
   He'd be a fool to run against Trump under any party banner and I believe he's smart enough to know that. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: libertybele on May 21, 2019, 01:56:22 am
The stories out about his family's interest in importing tools from China, but stamping "U.S.A." on them!
Trump takes a hard line against China, adding tariffs, and Amash calls for Trump's impeachment.

http://dcwhispers.com/is-anti-trump-republican-justin-amash-choosing-china-over-america/#HcScAvAviwqzD3zf.97 (http://dcwhispers.com/is-anti-trump-republican-justin-amash-choosing-china-over-america/#HcScAvAviwqzD3zf.97)

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KATE'S LAW


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/24-house-democrats-side-with-gop-vote-for-kates-law (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/24-house-democrats-side-with-gop-vote-for-kates-law)

Thanks for the info.  Good to know.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 21, 2019, 03:44:58 am
Amash storm hits Capitol Hill

By Scott Wong - 05/20/19 08:25 PM EDT
 

Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) doubled down Monday on his case that President Trump should be impeached for obstruction of justice, ensuring the spotlight will stay on the stunning attacks against his party’s leader all week.

GOP leaders and members of the conservative Freedom Caucus are distancing themselves from the 39-year-old lawmaker, who is now facing a new primary challenge.

Because the fight centers on a political disagreement rather than any personal misconduct, Amash is unlikely to be kicked off his sole committee, the Oversight and Reform panel, leadership sources said.

Freedom Caucus leaders also are unlikely to kick Amash out of the group he co-founded, though some speculated that his membership could be discussed this week. The Freedom Caucus also could vote to condemn Amash’s statements, sources said.

<..snip..>

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/444676-amash-storm-hits-capitol-hill (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/444676-amash-storm-hits-capitol-hill)


   THIS IS AN I.D.I.O.T  (It Deserves It's Own Thread)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: sneakypete on May 21, 2019, 03:52:36 am
The stories out about his family's interest in importing tools from China, but stamping "U.S.A." on them!
Trump takes a hard line against China, adding tariffs, and Amash calls for Trump's impeachment.

http://dcwhispers.com/is-anti-trump-republican-justin-amash-choosing-china-over-america/#HcScAvAviwqzD3zf.97 (http://dcwhispers.com/is-anti-trump-republican-justin-amash-choosing-china-over-america/#HcScAvAviwqzD3zf.97)

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KATE'S LAW


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/24-house-democrats-side-with-gop-vote-for-kates-law (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/24-house-democrats-side-with-gop-vote-for-kates-law)

@mrclose

I am almost certain that has nothing to do with his family bidnez. After all,he is a Republican,right? </S>
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 21, 2019, 03:57:45 am
I keep seeing "Amish" in all of these articles and posts....
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 21, 2019, 04:16:46 am
  It's probably Sundance or Britefart spreading the rumour that he's a Godfather in the Amish Mafia.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Rainn_Wilson_2009_cropped.jpg)

Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: sneakypete on May 21, 2019, 04:35:16 am
  It's probably Sundance or Britefart spreading the rumour that he's a Godfather in the Amish Mafia.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Rainn_Wilson_2009_cropped.jpg)

@corbe

The good news is the "clop,clop" of the hoofbeats is a sure tip-off they are coming at you,and it's hard for them to hit their targets because the fuses in their guns burn at different rates.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 21, 2019, 04:48:24 am
    I'm not too worried about the Amish @sneakypete now that Frank's gone.  It's the Trumpers here that turn my bad dreams into nightmares.  Isn't there a pill for that?  The internet offers up some formulas that are similar to what I had as I slept through the 80's, and of course Viagra, what good is that with my clothes clean and my ol lady sleeping down at the Laundromat?

Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: sneakypete on May 21, 2019, 04:58:20 am
   
Quote
I'm not too worried about the Amish @sneakypete now that Frank's gone.  It's the Trumpers here that turn my bad dreams into nightmares.
 

@corbe

And that is a problem? Isn't it what they are supposed to be doing?

Quote
Isn't there a pill for that?  The internet offers up some formulas that are similar to what I had as I slept through the 80's, and of course Viagra, what good is that with my clothes clean and my ol lady sleeping down at the Laundromat?

Sorry,can't help you out,there unless you are willing to take chemo on a daily basis. THAT would do it. Trust me on that one. If I didn't have spell check I wouldn't be able to post because I wouldn't be able to read it,either.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 21, 2019, 05:08:30 am
   I wouldn't wish chemo or radiation even on that Laundromat Bi1ch that has forsaken me @sneakypete did I mention at 50yo her boobs still stand straight up?
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 21, 2019, 05:10:57 am
   Ok, I'm going to bed, after this song, before the Mods tell me to go take a cold shower.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: sneakypete on May 21, 2019, 05:27:27 am
   I wouldn't wish chemo or radiation even on that Laundromat Bi1ch that has forsaken me @sneakypete did I mention at 50yo her boobs still stand straight up?

@corbe


Hmmm,do you have her phone number? Maybe I could call her and talk her into giving you another chance?

Because that's just the kind of guy I am.

Honest!

BTW,how far do they stick out?
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: mrclose on May 21, 2019, 05:34:18 pm
In Amash’s financial disclosure forms for the year 2015, he was shown as receiving up to $1 million in annual income due to his ownership stake in Michigan Industrial Tools (MIT). MIT is the parent company of Tekton Tools, Amash’s family business, that benefits directly from Chinese manufacturing.

An article from MLive in 2010 exposed Amash as being the co-owner of Dynamic Source International (DSI), a Chinese company that was once an MIT supplier. Amash’s family have been outspoken advocates of the globalist trade status quo for many years.

“Trade with China is providing American consumers with good quality tools that could not be made for those prices in the United States,” said John Amash, Justin’s brother, who is President of Tekton Tools.

The issue was a controversy when a Democratic opponent of Amash pointed out his Chinese business connections when the Grand Rapids Congressman initially ran for Congress in 2010 billing himself as a tea party advocate and Ron Paul Republican.

“The fact is, instead of making American-made products made by American workers, Justin Amash has chosen Chinese workers to make products which he then sells in America,” said Lonny Paris, who served as campaign manager in 2010 for Amash’s Democratic opponent Pat Miles Jr.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: aligncare on May 21, 2019, 06:02:13 pm
Sheesh. You need to dial back a bit.

I'm a supporter, I'm glad he's president. But to be unable to admit he's made some key errors does your credibility no good at all.

Trump made at least two rookie mistakes. First, not firing every Obama holdover, second hiring Jeff Sessions out of loyalty. It’s a toss up which decision was worse.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: libertybele on May 21, 2019, 06:13:20 pm
Trump made at least two rookie mistakes. First, not firing every Obama holdover, second hiring Jeff Sessions out of loyalty. It’s a toss up which decision was worse.

Hiring Sessions.  I thought that he was the one who had the job of firing all the Bammy holdovers??
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: austingirl on May 21, 2019, 06:15:39 pm
Trump made at least two rookie mistakes. First, not firing every Obama holdover, second hiring Jeff Sessions out of loyalty. It’s a toss up which decision was worse.

Those two were doozies.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: dfwgator on May 21, 2019, 06:36:18 pm
Trump made at least two rookie mistakes. First, not firing every Obama holdover, second hiring Jeff Sessions out of loyalty. It’s a toss up which decision was worse.

Trump should have pretty much had a team assembled even before he won the election.   He should have known who was going to be on his team, and that most likely established Washington insiders would want no part of his Administration, and some who did, probably wouldn't have Trump's best interests in mind.

Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 21, 2019, 11:09:06 pm
Sheesh. You need to dial back a bit.

I'm a supporter, I'm glad he's president. But to be unable to admit he's made some key errors does your credibility no good at all.


lol. List the key errors.  Be careful..as none of you have inside information.  HE DOES.  Nothing to dial back.  I am a patriot, and made my point.  If people are TRAITORS to America, that is not on him.  Waiting for your list. Thank you.
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 21, 2019, 11:25:00 pm
Trump made at least two rookie mistakes. First, not firing every Obama holdover, second hiring Jeff Sessions out of loyalty. It’s a toss up which decision was worse.


Neither is on president TRUMP.  Why do you all exact expect him to be clairvoyant?  How is he to KNOW AHEAD OF TIME...that there are so many traitors in our government?  People need to be practical. IF...you buy a new business..the first thing you do is FIRE EVERYBODY?  Or do you keep running the business with the same people, till you learn who is an asset and who is a liability.  An obama holdover in what office?   One that people vote in?   Jeff Sessions...was gung ho supporter of
president TRUMP.  So Jeff was a LIAR & TRAITOR to president.  Jeff either got PAID OFF or threatened to RECUSE HIMSELF.

I call that all, ON JEFF SESSIONS & LINDSEY GRAHAM.  Why don't you hindsight , 20/20 people tell us who ELSE..president should be careful trusting?  MIKE PENCE?  Tell us ahead of time. Please, I want to know ahead of time..not later...then beat him up for people being traitors.  BLAMING WRONG PERSON.  Graham said to TRUMP..NO ONE IN CONGRESS will support any of his agenda, dems/rino's/ repubs,  if he fires SESSIONS.  So, president is doing what he can, to keep helping American people.

http://youtu.be/BiHGgDJC8fg (http://youtu.be/BiHGgDJC8fg)

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Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: corbe on May 21, 2019, 11:39:05 pm
  How many times did he Hire/Fire this azzhat?  @LegalAmerican

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Omarosa_Manigault-Stallworth.jpg)

                       Omarosa
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 21, 2019, 11:48:07 pm
Trump should have pretty much had a team assembled even before he won the election.   He should have known who was going to be on his team, and that most likely established Washington insiders would want no part of his Administration, and some who did, probably wouldn't have Trump's best interests in mind.


Ahhhhhhhh.  Another, coulda, shoulda, woulda.  In fact.. he DID. He was already talking to foreign leaders..who CALLED HIM!  BEFORE HE WON THE ELECTION? " He should have known" ?  Sorry, I like all the TRUMP supporters on here...but some are being unrealistic.  Why do people do this?

  A COUPLE GETS MARRIED.  THE HUSBAND CHEATS.  SHE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE KNOWN..AHEAD OF TIME..ABOUT THAT..SO WE CAN BEAT HER UP....MORE! 

 I recently, fell, tripped, on huge garbage can provided by the city.  I should have known that big lid..when down would trip me!  Some guys. saw that,  showed no concern, but started saying, "those flip-flops should not be worn." Angry at me.  I wasn't wearing flip-flops.  I hate them, I have NONE!  So, instead of saying, "sorry that happened to you". Or are you ok"?   First thing was to "beat me" up for falling.  In fact, I had hairline bone fracture & I mediately put on frozen vegetables on "bone" that was sticking out of my forearm. 

I don't understand why people do that.  "beat someone"..more...when they are down & out. 


Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmvxx_YbDsM#)
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 12:17:13 am
    I'm not too worried about the Amish @sneakypete now that Frank's gone.  It's the Trumpers here that turn my bad dreams into nightmares.


 Isn't there a pill for that?  The internet offers up some formulas that are similar to what I had as I slept through the 80's, and of course Viagra, what good is that with my clothes clean and my ol lady sleeping down at the Laundromat?


Tell  me what is wrong with patriots.  You are against, prosperity, a safe America?  Is that your wet dream?  What is your issue?
Have you even looked at his achievements?  Or those video's showing HOW MUCH LEFT MEDIA LIES ABOUT HIM?  OR are you just a jealous beta male..with alpha president TRUMP?  you cannot stay in DENIAL your whole life. There is a beginning video, when this first started. DAILY LIES & SLANDER ABOUT MY PRESIDENT. If NOT TRUMP AS PRESIDENT.....WHO? 

Keep repeating the same beliefs..voting in professional politicians..smooth talking, expecting different results. By now, the ADULTS....should get it!  Here is your shoulda, coulda, woulda.....


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Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: Bill Cipher on May 22, 2019, 12:18:46 am
Trump is a hot mess who will go down in history as a mediocre president. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 12:19:31 am
I keep seeing "Amish" in all of these articles and posts....



AUTO CORRECT...SCREWS OVER EVERYONE.  AMASH. 
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 12:32:17 am
In Amash’s financial disclosure forms for the year 2015, he was shown as receiving up to $1 million in annual income due to his ownership stake in Michigan Industrial Tools (MIT). MIT is the parent company of Tekton Tools, Amash’s family business, that benefits directly from Chinese manufacturing.

An article from MLive in 2010 exposed Amash as being the co-owner of Dynamic Source International (DSI), a Chinese company that was once an MIT supplier. Amash’s family have been outspoken advocates of the globalist trade status quo for many years.

“Trade with China is providing American consumers with good quality tools that could not be made for those prices in the United States,” said John Amash, Justin’s brother, who is President of Tekton Tools.

The issue was a controversy when a Democratic opponent of Amash pointed out his Chinese business connections when the Grand Rapids Congressman initially ran for Congress in 2010 billing himself as a tea party advocate and Ron Paul Republican.

“The fact is, instead of making American-made products made by American workers, Justin Amash has chosen Chinese workers to make products which he then sells in America,” said Lonny Paris, who served as campaign manager in 2010 for Amash’s Democratic opponent Pat Miles Jr.


Excellent !   Good post.   :patriot: :seeya:
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: skeeter on May 22, 2019, 12:40:00 am

lol. List the key errors.  Be careful..as none of you have inside information.  HE DOES.  Nothing to dial back.  I am a patriot, and made my point.  If people are TRAITORS to America, that is not on him.  Waiting for your list. Thank you.

Jeff Sessions.

What did I win?
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: EdJames on May 22, 2019, 12:52:25 am


AUTO CORRECT...SCREWS OVER EVERYONE.  AMASH.

It is not auto-correct that is the problem @LegalAmerican , it is Trump's fault.  He screwed up the Internet and phone systems so badly that know I have to use this Dutch phone and I can hardly read the screen.
(https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--itJJYdTO--/c_crop,x_10,y_10/a_270/c_fit,h_814/c_crop,g_north_west,h_1100,w_554,x_-75,y_-143/l_upload:v1452885561:production:blanks:gawvl5gka1pqwssxidw5/fl_layer_apply,g_north_west,x_-436,y_-220/b_rgb:36538b/c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1536645728/production/designs/3138366_0.jpg)

Thanks, Trump!
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on May 22, 2019, 01:30:16 am
Jeff Sessions.

What did I win?

I don't KNOW.. But I'm sure IT will BE delivered in ALL CAPS!
Title: Re: GOP lawmaker: Trump has engaged in multiple actions that 'meet the threshold for impeachment'
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 01:33:15 am
Jeff Sessions.

What did I win?


lol. Nothing.  I already addressed that,  with Lindsey Graham..saying President cannot do that!   HOLY HELL TO PAY! 
READ MY POST THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT.  EVEN VIDEO.  You welcome.