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« Reply #1900 on: October 21, 2023, 05:54:59 pm »
Russian soldier poses in front of destroyed Akhmat.  Another confirmed armor kill by Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1901 on: October 21, 2023, 05:59:17 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1902 on: October 21, 2023, 06:03:02 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1903 on: October 21, 2023, 06:07:10 pm »
Putin pays visit to Gerasimov in Rostov for war update.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1904 on: October 21, 2023, 08:53:08 pm »
Putin pays visit to Gerasimov in Rostov for war update.

Heh...Gerasimov is looking more "robust" than usual. 
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1905 on: October 22, 2023, 12:16:21 pm »
Giant Russian military plane explodes in fireball as it takes off from remote airbase with mystery cargo

Dramatic video captures huge 72-tonne II-76 transporter engulfed in flames
It's the second Russian-made II-76 aircraft to blow up on a runway in a month 

By WILL STEWART and TOM COTTERILL
21 October 2023

A giant Russian military plane exploded in a fireball as it took off from a remote airbase carrying a mystery cargo.

The 164ft Il-76 plane was on the runway when an engine erupted in flames, according to reports.

The aircraft rolled off the runway as the inferno spread, with dramatic video from the scene showing the 72-tonne jet engulfed in flames.

The crew and any passengers escaped before the blaze gripped the hulking military transporter, said reports.

There are believed to have been eight on board moving an unspecified military cargo.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12656267/Russian-military-transport-plane-explodes-Tajikistan.html

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« Reply #1906 on: October 22, 2023, 12:20:48 pm »
Ukraine breaks through enemy lines in Russia-controlled south: ‘Russian losses are really staggering’

By Matthew Sedacca
Published Oct. 21, 2023

Ukrainian forces ramped up their attacks on Russian-held territory in the south while holding off Moscow’s assaults on the eastern town of Avdiivka, according to military experts and officials.

The Ukrainian military broke through the enemy lines after intensified assaults across the Dnipro River, near the southern city of Kherson. 

“Ukrainian actions appear to be larger than previously observed tactical raids,” the think tank Institute for the Study of War said in a report. 

In the town of Avdiivka, just nine miles from the Moscow-controlled city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, Kyiv’s forces managed to repel and hold their ground against Russia, which launched relentless assaults there earlier this month, President Volodymyr Zelensky claimed.

“Thanks to all our boys, who powerfully hold the defense and destroy the occupier day after day,” Zelensky said in a video posted on Telegram.

“These days, the Russian losses are really staggering, and it is precisely losses by the occupier that Ukraine needs.”

Ukraine received new support from the United States in the form of long-range Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS, which were deployed for the first time this week.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba confirmed to reporters the U.S. would continue to supply Kyiv with the advanced missiles, The Telegraph reported.

Officials have said the ATACMS could help reshape the course of the war by allowing Ukraine’s troops to attack previously unreachable supply lines, air bases and rail networks used by Russia in occupied territories.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/10/21/ukraine-break-through-enemy-lines-in-russia-controlled-south/

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« Reply #1907 on: October 22, 2023, 01:23:07 pm »
Ukraine breaks through enemy lines in Russia-controlled south: ‘Russian losses are really staggering’

By Matthew Sedacca
Published Oct. 21, 2023

Ukrainian forces ramped up their attacks on Russian-held territory in the south while holding off Moscow’s assaults on the eastern town of Avdiivka, according to military experts and officials.

The Ukrainian military broke through the enemy lines after intensified assaults across the Dnipro River, near the southern city of Kherson. 

“Ukrainian actions appear to be larger than previously observed tactical raids,” the think tank Institute for the Study of War said in a report. 

In the town of Avdiivka, just nine miles from the Moscow-controlled city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, Kyiv’s forces managed to repel and hold their ground against Russia, which launched relentless assaults there earlier this month, President Volodymyr Zelensky claimed.

“Thanks to all our boys, who powerfully hold the defense and destroy the occupier day after day,” Zelensky said in a video posted on Telegram.

“These days, the Russian losses are really staggering, and it is precisely losses by the occupier that Ukraine needs.”

Ukraine received new support from the United States in the form of long-range Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS, which were deployed for the first time this week.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba confirmed to reporters the U.S. would continue to supply Kyiv with the advanced missiles, The Telegraph reported.

Officials have said the ATACMS could help reshape the course of the war by allowing Ukraine’s troops to attack previously unreachable supply lines, air bases and rail networks used by Russia in occupied territories.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/10/21/ukraine-break-through-enemy-lines-in-russia-controlled-south/


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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1908 on: October 22, 2023, 02:08:47 pm »
Giant Russian military plane explodes in fireball as it takes off from remote airbase with mystery cargo
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The Il-76 is similar in age and capability to the USAF C-141 Starlifter. Taking bits from the article, this fire happened in Dushanbe, Tajikistan. This particular Il-76 has, in the past, been used in supplying the Russian effort to conquer Ukraine.
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« Reply #1909 on: October 22, 2023, 02:41:29 pm »
Ukraine breaks through enemy lines in Russia-controlled south: ‘Russian losses are really staggering’
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The article is kind of summarizing events of the past week, the "delay" being one of actually learning what happened instead of rushing something to print that is 60%-90% incorrect. Kudos, NYP!

Anyway, looking at the map of the area, most of the Sea of Azov's northern coast, the 400+ miles from Mariupol to the neck into the Crimean Peninsula at Armiansk is a 50-70 mile corridor through which Crimea can be supplied from Russia, or Russian troops along that northern from can be supplied from Russia or Crimea. That entire corridor is well within Ukraine's long range artillery. More to the point, Ukraine has been attacking, trying to beak through to cut off that corridor, one thrust toward Mariupol, and another between Melitopol and Berdyansk. This new attack, crossing at Kherson and toward Oleshky, is a third prong, and it widens the line of threat westward by another 20-40 miles (depending on the route Ukrainian for might be able to choose.

Re the helicopter base attacks, it appears that 20-25 helicopters were destroyed or rendered inoperable, as mentioned above. These are CAS and supply helicopters that are no longer supporting Russians protecting this 400-450 mile long corridor. One of the bases is in Berdyansk, within the corridor; the other is at Luhansk, just 200 miles from the eastern part of the corridor.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1910 on: October 22, 2023, 02:45:55 pm »
The Il-76 is similar in age and capability to the USAF C-141 Starlifter. Taking bits from the article, this fire happened in Dushanbe, Tajikistan. This particular Il-76 has, in the past, been used in supplying the Russian effort to conquer Ukraine.

Makes you wonder if there is some internal Russain sabotage going on.  I don't think Uke operatives would be able to reach assests in Tajikistan.  At least not on the ground.
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« Reply #1911 on: October 22, 2023, 04:17:18 pm »

This should be posted on the TOS.

I did, and the usual suspects quickly appeared and tried to knock it down.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1914 on: October 23, 2023, 02:51:27 pm »
They really are orcs as their own Generals basically view them as expendable. These might be the prisoner/conscripts groups, who the leaders care nothing about.

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« Reply #1915 on: October 23, 2023, 08:26:29 pm »
Did anyone else read that Putin had some kind of major cardiac event.

It's sort of dropped of the news since I first saw it this a.m.

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« Reply #1916 on: October 23, 2023, 08:58:32 pm »
Did anyone else read that Putin had some kind of major cardiac event.

It's sort of dropped of the news since I first saw it this a.m.

I saw a bunch of those stories, but they all seem to rely on the same suspect source, so I would take it with a large grain of salt.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1917 on: October 25, 2023, 12:15:39 am »
Ukraine’s Territorials Need Tanks. They’re Getting Them ... From Russia.

David Axe  |  Oct 24, 2023  |  06:21pm EDT


In the 21 months of Russia’s wider war on Ukraine, Ukrainian forces have captured at least 44 Russian T-62 tanks.

Never ones to waste an armored vehicle, no matter how old, the Ukrainians have converted some of the 1960s-vintage T-62s into engineering vehicles and infantry fighting vehicles.

The ex-Russian T-62s that are left over seem to have cascaded to Ukraine’s territorial brigades. A photo that circulated online on Tuesday depicts a 41-ton, four-person T-62M in service with the 110th Territorial Defense Brigade.

The T-62 is old. Its armor is just 215 millimeters thick at its thickest. Ukraine’s standard T-64 tank has three times as much protection. . .

. . . But for all its flaws as a tank, the T-62 is better than no tank at all. Which is why the 110th Territorial Brigade would happily add captured Russian T-62s to its order of battle. . .

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« Reply #1918 on: October 25, 2023, 04:22:45 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1919 on: October 26, 2023, 10:01:20 pm »
Slovakia has officially ended all military aid to Ukraine

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« Reply #1920 on: October 30, 2023, 07:58:55 pm »
According to a new profile by in Time magazine, "Zelensky feels betrayed by his Western allies." Yet "his belief in Ukraine’s ultimate victory over Russia... worries some of his advisers" and verges "on the messianic."

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« Reply #1921 on: October 30, 2023, 08:55:10 pm »
Hit piece on Zelensky from "some advisors."

So I guess Churchill's iron determination to win against Hitler was similarly "worrying" in November 1941, when he then felt betrayed by the U.S. and its refusal to do more than Lend-Lease at that time.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1922 on: October 30, 2023, 10:15:11 pm »
Hit piece on Zelensky from "some advisors."

So I guess Churchill's iron determination to win against Hitler was similarly "worrying" in November 1941, when he then felt betrayed by the U.S. and its refusal to do more than Lend-Lease at that time.
Good point. I'd like to know what or who is behind this TIME profile.
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« Reply #1923 on: October 30, 2023, 11:12:58 pm »
Good point. I'd like to know what or who is behind this TIME profile.

You know, the moral cowardice that has infected the U.S. and the West in general, and many Conservatives in particular, is appalling.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1924 on: October 31, 2023, 02:00:42 pm »
I find it curious Time would publish something negative about VZ, when the American media are so under the control of the Democrat party and pretty much write whatever the DNC orders. Does this mean the Democrats are turning on Zelenskyy?
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