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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2800 on: May 16, 2024, 11:06:30 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2801 on: May 16, 2024, 11:07:38 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2802 on: May 16, 2024, 11:10:00 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2803 on: May 16, 2024, 11:17:02 pm »
'Liberators and protectors', as one poster here described Putin's soldiers:


https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1791144168669979012
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2804 on: May 16, 2024, 11:19:37 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2805 on: May 16, 2024, 11:21:07 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2806 on: May 17, 2024, 09:52:09 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 16, 2024, 11:07:38 pm
from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1ctlg0v/satellite_images_showing_the_results_of_the/

The orcs were actually hit worse than "just" two MiGs and a fuel storage facility:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weiqy8jGW4s

Besides having been hit twice in two nights, Belbek is relatively close to the front line, i.e. a vulnerable "easy" target. That two planes are still there suggests, as is pointed out in the video, that they have been damaged enough to need repair before flying off to less dangerous environs.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2807 on: May 17, 2024, 12:15:24 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on May 17, 2024, 09:52:09 am
That two planes are still there suggests, as is pointed out in the video, that they have been damaged enough to need repair before flying off to less dangerous environs.

Good observation.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2808 on: May 17, 2024, 03:27:29 pm »
As Russia Advances, NATO Considers Sending Trainers Into Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/us/politics/nato-ukraine.html

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NATO allies are inching closer to sending troops into Ukraine to train Ukrainian forces, a move that would be another blurring of a previous red line and could draw the United States and Europe more directly into the war.

Ukraine’s manpower shortage has reached a critical point, and its position on the battlefield in recent weeks has seriously worsened as Russia has accelerated its advances to take advantage of delays in shipments of American weapons. As a result, Ukrainian officials have asked their American and NATO counterparts to help train 150,000 new recruits closer to the front line for faster deployment.

So far the United States has said no, but Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr., the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on Thursday that a NATO deployment of trainers appeared inevitable. “We’ll get there eventually, over time,” he said.

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I've got mixed feelings about this.  It's probably way too late in the game to do this now.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2809 on: May 17, 2024, 04:08:53 pm »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on May 17, 2024, 03:27:29 pm
As Russia Advances, NATO Considers Sending Trainers Into Ukraine

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/us/politics/nato-ukraine.html

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I've got mixed feelings about this.  It's probably way too late in the game to do this now.

Or way too early, for those of us who don't want NATO boots in Ukraine, ever.   :shrug:
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2810 on: May 17, 2024, 04:51:55 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 17, 2024, 04:08:53 pm
Or way too early, for those of us who don't want NATO boots in Ukraine, ever.   :shrug:
Seems to me Ukraine has learned a lot more about modern warfare using drones, large and small, in a real world situation than The UN could teach them anyway...unless it was for those pretty blue helmets to show how to draw sniper fire :pondering:
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2811 on: May 17, 2024, 05:17:28 pm »
Quote from: GtHawk on May 17, 2024, 04:51:55 pm
Seems to me Ukraine has learned a lot more about modern warfare using drones, large and small, in a real world situation than The UN could teach them anyway...unless it was for those pretty blue helmets to show how to draw sniper fire :pondering:


Agreed. Besides, as you said, what is the UN going to "teach" them? Given the proper equipment they seem to be doing a good job. jmho
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2812 on: May 17, 2024, 06:27:46 pm »
Quote from: GtHawk on May 17, 2024, 04:51:55 pm
Seems to me Ukraine has learned a lot more about modern warfare using drones, large and small, in a real world situation than The UN could teach them anyway...unless it was for those pretty blue helmets to show how to draw sniper fire :pondering:

Not the UN, but NATO. Big difference.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2813 on: May 17, 2024, 07:53:35 pm »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on May 17, 2024, 06:27:46 pm
Not the UN, but NATO. Big difference.
Yes big difference, aside from my sniper comment it's still the same argument about lessons.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2814 on: May 17, 2024, 09:38:44 pm »
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« Reply #2815 on: May 17, 2024, 09:39:43 pm »
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« Reply #2816 on: May 17, 2024, 09:40:46 pm »
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« Reply #2817 on: May 17, 2024, 09:42:26 pm »
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« Reply #2818 on: May 17, 2024, 09:44:28 pm »
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« Reply #2819 on: May 17, 2024, 09:47:04 pm »
Sevastopol -  It is bad-ass that the Ukrainians send another drone the very next day to get a photo for their 'before and after' shot.


https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1791562128308031697
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2820 on: May 17, 2024, 09:51:14 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2821 on: May 17, 2024, 09:58:30 pm »
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« Reply #2822 on: May 17, 2024, 09:59:56 pm »
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« Reply #2823 on: May 17, 2024, 10:00:32 pm »
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« Reply #2824 on: May 17, 2024, 10:03:20 pm »
If Biden had taken the tens of billions of dollars he handed over to the State Department (in the name of Ukraine) and spent it all on $100 drones instead, this war would be over.
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