House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Bond debt is a fixed outlay.  I hope you knew that.

Yes.  That continues to accrue regardless of whether any new legislation is passed.  And since the statement was "not one dime has been added to the federal debt", well, yes it has.  The federal debt is larger today than it was on Tuesday.

[roamer_1]

30 years of betrayal isn't on the ballot for Speaker.

Oh yes it is. Straight outta the moderate wing.

[catfish1957]

Yes, I do.  And he apparently forgot that the appropriations for this year were passed last year.  So the current additional spending he claims isn't happening actually is happening because it has already been authorized.

What Congress votes on this year is mostly spending for next year.

Hence.... (hint) (hint) "incremental" increase.  He's right...  You know what he meant

[DB]

Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow

Question: should any of the 20 congressmen who took money from McCarthy’s PAC resign?  Should they at least return the money?  After all, hypocrisy is unprincipled.

12:01 PM · Jan 5, 2023

And you wonder why the swamp remains the swamp... Outsiders must submit to the swamp or resign...

[Hoodat]

So the current additional spending he claims .  .  .

You might want to revisit my post.  You won't find a single claim about "spending".

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,488560.msg2764220.html#msg2764220

[catfish1957]

What the hell was up with Mad Max?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Levin has turned into nothing but a bloviating POS. 

Nothing brings joy to a conservative's day like finding someone new to ridicule, diminish and hate.

[Free Vulcan]

Mad Maxine Waters ranting now. Looks like she's drunk even when (I think) she's sober.

[Wingnut]

Nothing brings joy to a conservative's day like finding someone new to ridicule, diminish and hate.

Says the women who loves Trump more than life itself!

[Cyber Liberty]

Oh yes it is. Straight outta the moderate wing.

Correct.  McCarthy has not earned the trust of enough Members to keep him from being speaker, and no amount of cajoling by him and his supporters can fix that.

This is on McCarthy and nobody else.  I like seeing the blame go squarely where it belongs.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow

I heard on Fox that the 20 Republicans are demanding several new rules, including term limits.  The only way term limits can be applied to members of Congress under the federal Constitution is by an amendment. Why? First, the Supreme Court has already said so.

Second, you cannot alter the Constitution by statute.  There are term limits on a president because the Constitution was amended after FDR was elected to 4 terms. So, this demand does nothing but deceive the public.  And they know it.

10:26 AM · Jan 5, 2023

[Cyber Liberty]

Nothing brings joy to a conservative's day like finding someone new to ridicule, diminish and hate.

That's humorous. 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Congress fills the Treasury with money they "borrowed", most recently with $1.7 trillion.  This is the money that the Executive Branch draws off of until the legislated deadline.  So no, the debt won't increase until the next time Congress needs to "borrow" money.  And for the last three days, this has not occurred.

Okay, I honestly don't know what a single sentence in there actually means.   You're mixing up a few different ideas into a stew I can't decipher, so I'll bow out of this.

[Hoodat]

Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow

I heard on Fox that the 20 Republicans are demanding several new rules, including term limits.  The only way term limits can be applied to members of Congress under the federal Constitution is by an amendment.

Which is exactly what these Conservatives are asking for, dumb-ass.

[Cyber Liberty]

The ninth round is finished, and not one vote has changed since the 3rd Ballot.  On to round 10.  @corbe is going to run out of chicks soon....

[Right_in_Virginia]

Says the women who loves Trump more than life itself!

Once again, you fail to make sense. But, I do love your predictability.   

[Free Vulcan]

Nothing brings joy to a conservative's day like finding someone new to ridicule, diminish and hate.

Like the Trump lackey who slandered Gaetz as some kind of rapist, pedophile and human trafficker even though a hostile justice system found nothing?

Sounds like more swampy RINO 'get in line' only we can do that crap.

[Hoodat]

Okay, I honestly don't know what a single sentence in there actually means.   You're mixing up a few different ideas into a stew I can't decipher, so I'll bow out of this.

OK, then allow me to put it in simpler terms for you.  How much in federal spending has Congress appropriated in the past three days?

[catfish1957]

McCarthy Votes (218 needed)

Ballot #- votes

1- 203
2- 203
3- 202
4- 201
5- 201
6- 201
7- 201
8- 201
9- 200 (updated Rep. Buck did not vote in this round)

(The oft meme'd definition of insanity is starting to comes to mind)

[roamer_1]

Hannity's twitter feed was pretty funny today.

His base viewer/listen-ship is not pleased.

I don't know why anyone thinks he is Conservative.

[Hoodat]

Like the Trump lackey who slandered Gaetz as some kind of rapist, pedophile and human trafficker even though a hostile justice system found nothing?

Sounds like more swampy RINO 'get in line' only we can do that crap.

Yep.  To think that we have been criticizing #AlwaysTrumpers for their ignorance about Trump being married to the Establishment.  Now we realize that it is been because of his marriage to the Establishment that they have supported him.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yep.  To think that we have been criticizing #AlwaysTrumpers for their ignorance about Trump being married to the Establishment.  Now we realize that it is been because of his marriage to the Establishment that they have supported him.

Note this has brought sunlight to all the Pubbies in the closet.  We are in a small minority, but that doesn't mean we're letting go of the tiger's tail.  I'm hearing many people starting to repeat my line from Tuesday:  "If not now, when?"

[catfish1957]

C-Span reported that some kind of deal may being worked in the GOP Whip's office.

After the one "guilting" nomination speech today, I don't see it.

[Hoodat]

Bond debt is a fixed outlay.  I hope you knew that.

Yes.  That continues to accrue regardless of whether any new legislation is passed.  And since the statement was "not one dime has been added to the federal debt", well, yes it has.  The federal debt is larger today than it was on Tuesday.

Bond debt is a fixed outlay, meaning that it is already figured into the budget.  So when Congress passed a budget for the next eight months or so, it included money which retires every bond with interest that will become due during that span.  That money has already been appropriated and placed on the debt balance sheet.  So when a bond retires today, it will be paid out with money that has already been allocated to the Treasury.  They won't have to borrow more money to satisfy that cost.

Now you could argue that the $1.7 trillion wasn't printed up and added to the Treasury in one day, but was spread over the next eight months.  But on paper, the allocation was made last month.  There will be no legislative addition to our federal debt until the next time Congress decides to spend money that they don't have.

[mystery-ak]

Chad Pergram
@ChadPergram
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Unofficial vote tally on 10th Speaker ballot:
212- jeffries
200- mccarthy 
17- donalds
3-hern
1-present