House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread

[Free Vulcan]

Before you do that…feel free to let us know who the “20” morons are wanting to be Speaker.

That false dichotomy isn't even in the ballpark of reality. You're supporting a 8 time loser. Be a leader, make some deals, live with the consequences. Leave the moral sanctimony at the worship center of your choice.

[Cyber Liberty]

That false dichotomy isn't even in the ballpark of reality. You're supporting a 8 time loser. Be a leader, make some deals, live with the consequences. Leave the moral sanctimony at the worship center of your choice.

About to be 9 time loser.

[catfish1957]

That false dichotomy isn't even in the ballpark of reality. You're supporting a 8 time loser. Be a leader, make some deals, live with the consequences. Leave the moral sanctimony at the worship center of your choice.

Sterling example of putting self interest above Party and Country.

[Hoodat]

Can't the same be said for Gaetz?

No.  Gaetz is successfully getting his result each time.

[Free Vulcan]

Can't the same be said for Gaetz?

McCarthy is the one who wants Speaker. Be a leader and figure it out what it's going to take, and live with the consequences. Nobody owes him anything.

[Mesaclone]

I'm not telling Gosar a lie in order to get a traitor elected speaker.  He's not "losing votes," we are the reddest County in the state.  Sorry, I don't play that game.

It’s not a lie. As I said I personally know 5 he and/or Biggs have already lost. I have relative in Texas and Colorado equally disgusted by this fiasco. All I’m asking is you to tell him the truth. My god man…who do u think is being swayed into voting FOR these guys by this idiocy? Those like yourself are ALREADY doing so…but many who joined in the last few elections absolutely won’t be doing so in 2024. That’s no lie, it’s a simple truth.

[Hoodat]

Whoever this is speaking right now is knocking pitch after of pitch dead center right out of the park.

[Mesaclone]

McCarthy is the one who wants Speaker. Be a leader and figure it out what it's going to take, and live with the consequences. Nobody owes him anything.

Negotiations ONLY work if both sides operate in good faith. The 20 morons are not doing so as Hannity exposed so clearly last night.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

AND...  Loudly proclaimed he'd go scorched earth ,burn down this institution and fight until he had  4 people standing with him.

I don't recall him proclaiming that loudly, or even saying it period.  Or did I miss that statement?

[Hoodat]

It’s not a lie. As I said I personally know 5 he and/or Biggs have already lost. I have relative in Texas and Colorado equally disgusted by this fiasco. All I’m asking is you to tell him the truth. My god man…who do u think is being swayed into voting FOR these guys by this idiocy? Those like yourself are ALREADY doing so…but many who joined in the last few elections absolutely won’t be doing so in 2024. That’s no lie, it’s a simple truth.

If establishment hacks such as yourself weren't so hellbent from blocking Conservatives from taking office, McCarthy would have more votes to play with.

[Polly Ticks]

Whoever this is speaking right now is knocking pitch after of pitch dead center right out of the park.

Rosendale.  He sure did.

[deb]

Whoever this is speaking right now is knocking pitch after of pitch dead center right out of the park.

Rosendale of Montana. He was very powerful. I’d like to see him as Speaker.

[Cyber Liberty]

It’s not a lie. As I said I personally know 5 he and/or Biggs have already lost. I have relative in Texas and Colorado equally disgusted by this fiasco. All I’m asking is you to tell him the truth. My god man…who do u think is being swayed into voting FOR these guys by this idiocy? Those like yourself are ALREADY doing so…but many who joined in the last few elections absolutely won’t be doing so in 2024. That’s no lie, it’s a simple truth.

You are being disgusted at the wrong people.  You should be PO'ed at 30 years of betrayal.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

McCarthy is the one who wants Speaker. Be a leader and figure it out what it's going to take, and live with the consequences. Nobody owes him anything.

The problem is that what it might "take" to get enough of those 20 may be too much for some of his other 200 supporters.  I'd imagine they're not all that keen on giving holdouts the cream of the committee assignments rather than distributing them more evenly.

If the demands of the 20 are too much for the other 200...that's just a stalemate.

[Hoodat]

Rosendale of Montana. He was very powerful. I’d like to see him as Speaker.

Dude is awesome.

[Cyber Liberty]

If establishment hacks such as yourself weren't so hellbent from blocking Conservatives from taking office, McCarthy would have more votes to play with.

Fact.  McCarthy's in big trouble because he failed to get more R's elected last November.

[Free Vulcan]

Sterling example of putting self interest above Party and Country.

Point being that it's on McCarthy's head to break this stalemate. HE needs to do something, not anyone else. Appease the Conservatives, or appease the Rats, his choice.

The Conservatives need to know what they want to give up their votes. Either meet with all 21 or with Donalds, and work it out. Or work something with the Rats, but quit acting like he's entitled and repeating this dog and pony over and over.

McCarthy could put himself and everyone on record and publicly propose a rules structure of legislation. Be bold, take a risk, lead out.

But he won't do that because he's not seriously negotiating. Just nods and promises till he gets what he wants, then file 13 everything.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

You are being disgusted at the wrong people.  You should be PO'ed at 30 years of betrayal.

30 years of betrayal isn't on the ballot for Speaker.

[Free Vulcan]

The problem is that what it might "take" to get enough of those 20 may be too much for some of his other 200 supporters.  I'd imagine they're not all that keen on giving holdouts the cream of the committee assignments rather than distributing them more evenly.

If the demands of the 20 are too much for the other 200...that's just a stalemate.

That's a half slice. If McCarthy made the same deal with Rats there would be no objections from the same 200.

[andy58-in-nh]

This is absolute stupidity on steroids. Let's say the Gang of 20 get what they want - McCarthy withdraws.

OK, what happens next? Only one thing is reasonably possible: Hakeem Jeffries becomes the Speaker of the House.

Why? Because there is no one else among House Republicans who will get more than the Democrats' 212 votes. They will divide their votes among various candidates, because the chance of them agreeing on any one person in lockstep, like the Democrats is nil. None. Nada. Not happening.

Idiots.

[Bigun]

30 years of betrayal isn't on the ballot for Speaker.

I beg to differ sir!

[Right_in_Virginia]

Robert Costa
@costareports

Gaetz tells reporters just now that this all ends either with McCarthy deciding to “withdraw from the race” or agrees to a “straitjacket” agreement that fully constrains him as speaker.

1:46 PM · Jan 5, 2023

[catfish1957]

I don't recall him proclaiming that loudly, or even saying it period.  Or did I miss that statement?

https://nypost.com/2023/01/03/rep-kevin-mccarthy-says-earned-house-speaker-job/

<snipit>
Rep. Kevin McCarthy told his fellow Republicans “I earned this job” during a heated conference meeting Tuesday morning, just hours before the full chamber was expected to vote on his bid to be speaker of the House.

“I earned this job,” said McCarthy (R-Calif.). “We earned this majority, and God damn it, we are going to win it today.”

However, the GOP leader also admitted that he won’t have the 218 votes likely needed to win on the first ballot, according to CNN, but vowed not to stand down if his initial bid fails.

​“I’m not going to go away,” McCarthy said to his colleagues. “I’m going to stand until the last four friends stand with me.”

[Free Vulcan]

Rosendale of Montana. He was very powerful. I’d like to see him as Speaker.

Yet another choice for a compromise candidate. All McCarthy has to do is back down and give the word.

W...T...H is the problem with him? I think I know.

[oldno7]

Rosendale of Montana. He was very powerful. I’d like to see him as Speaker.

Very good speech.

It was what all Americans should want--actual and effective representation.