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Re: House Speaker Vote Live Thread #congress #speaker #house #vote
« Reply #400 on: January 04, 2023, 08:06:07 pm »
You're correct @LilLamb   218 is the magic number if all members are present and vote for someone.  The 218 reduces if the number of members present drops and/or by the number voting "present".

There is also a scenario where McCarthy could get to 213 and prevail in a “most vote wins” scenario.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live Thread #congress #speaker #house #vote
« Reply #401 on: January 04, 2023, 08:06:26 pm »
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« Reply #402 on: January 04, 2023, 08:06:39 pm »
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The so-called "conservatives" led by @mattgaetz
 are about to disenfranchise millions of voters -- the majority -- who wanted to remove Democrats from power in the House, because without an alternative candidate, and without McCarthy, there will be a Dem-RINO coalition government.

McCarthy IS a Dem-RINO coalition.

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« Reply #403 on: January 04, 2023, 08:07:39 pm »
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The so-called "conservatives" led by @mattgaetz
 are about to disenfranchise millions of voters -- the majority -- who wanted to remove Democrats from power in the House, because without an alternative candidate, and without McCarthy, there will be a Dem-RINO coalition government.
So having mccarthy in as leader is different than a coalition government? 

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live Thread #congress #speaker #house #vote
« Reply #404 on: January 04, 2023, 08:08:20 pm »
You're correct @LilLamb   218 is the magic number if all members are present and vote for someone.  The 218 reduces if the number of members present drops and/or by the number voting "present".

There is also a scenario where McCarthy could get to 213 and prevail in a “most vote wins” scenario.

That is not my understanding @Right_in_Virginia  Please see https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,488466.msg2763050.html#msg2763050
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« Reply #405 on: January 04, 2023, 08:08:32 pm »
So...it appears Ballot 6 is coming up.

To me it's too late for concessions to conservatives. Either get a consensus candidate, or get votes from the Rats.

McCarthy fouled his own nest, he can deal with it.
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« Reply #406 on: January 04, 2023, 08:08:37 pm »
Watching the faces, everyone's looking pretty pissy right now. Have a feeling things are going to crack and deals made.

It's been happening since late last night.

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« Reply #407 on: January 04, 2023, 08:11:35 pm »
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Another swing and a miss by Pollack. Give that man a paper bag.
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« Reply #408 on: January 04, 2023, 08:13:27 pm »
To me it's too late for concessions to conservatives. Either get a consensus candidate, or get votes from the Rats.

McCarthy fouled his own nest, he can deal with it.

What will McCarthy promise the Dems who vote for him???......committee chairs?

This sounds like AOC's plan...
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« Reply #409 on: January 04, 2023, 08:14:35 pm »
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...without McCarthy, there will be a Dem-RINO coalition government.

And with McCarthy you get exactly the same!
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« Reply #410 on: January 04, 2023, 08:14:43 pm »
The House is working as designed.  Individual Reps are voting ... not rubberstamping a leadership "understanding of a framework".
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« Reply #411 on: January 04, 2023, 08:15:29 pm »
What will McCarthy promise the Dems who vote for him???......committee chairs?

This sounds like AOC's plan...

I think he wants it so bad he's about ready to bite on anything the Rats offer. Yet he couldn't agree to a couple of demands by the conservatives.

And that's the problem in a nutshell and why I hope the Bloc holds together.
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« Reply #412 on: January 04, 2023, 08:17:45 pm »
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Rep. Kat CAMMACK, a close friend to Byron Donalds who is also in Florida delegation, is now nominating McCarthy for speaker

starts off saying it is "groundhog day"
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« Reply #413 on: January 04, 2023, 08:18:14 pm »
I already don't like her.
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« Reply #414 on: January 04, 2023, 08:19:10 pm »
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BREAKING—
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What exactly is he negotiating away in this process?
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live Thread #congress #speaker #house #vote
« Reply #415 on: January 04, 2023, 08:19:57 pm »
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1. My friend Chip Roy said on the House floor yesterday that we were watching some great debate.  Really?  I didn’t hear any debate. There were a few very short sporadic statements. No debate. And lots of votes with the same result.

2. And he and the others in that group kept voting for someone who has said he’s not interested in being speaker, who nominated McCarthy, and voted repeatedly for McCarthy.  Sorry, brother Chip, that’s hardly some great lesson in representative government.

3. And you guys have no plan. The Democrats and media love it. And we, the people, are not impressed. In fact, I sense a backlash growing. This isn’t about McCarthy. It’s about Biden, open borders, the FBI, and all the rest. And nothing is getting done.

4. Let’s move off the mark now or all you guys might face primary challenges from real constitutional conservatives.


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« Reply #416 on: January 04, 2023, 08:20:08 pm »
Here comes Ballot 6....
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« Reply #417 on: January 04, 2023, 08:20:32 pm »
Count me one of those. They will survive. This country needs a little less suburbanite convenience and a little more blue collar butts and elbows. Sometimes achievement of the good isn't the route of smooth sailing.

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« Reply #418 on: January 04, 2023, 08:21:30 pm »
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BREAKING—
#KevinMcCarthy is now working with Democrats to secure the House Speakership.  Maxine Waters is purportedly making back room deals on his behalf.

What exactly is he negotiating away in this process?

Attaboy Kev...  Dealing with Mad Max rather than Chip Roy. 

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« Reply #419 on: January 04, 2023, 08:21:33 pm »
I just laugh at these Reps who don't think Kevs will pull the football once he gets what he wants. But go ahead and keep beating your chest with pride for a pyrrhic victory.
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« Reply #420 on: January 04, 2023, 08:22:04 pm »
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BREAKING—
#KevinMcCarthy is now working with Democrats to secure the House Speakership.  Maxine Waters is purportedly making back room deals on his behalf.

What exactly is he negotiating away in this process?

Nothing he has not already given them.
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« Reply #421 on: January 04, 2023, 08:22:23 pm »
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BREAKING—
#KevinMcCarthy is now working with Democrats to secure the House Speakership.  Maxine Waters is purportedly making back room deals on his behalf.

What exactly is he negotiating away in this process?

Committee chairmanships for Democrats would be my guess based on hard experience down here in Texas.
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« Reply #422 on: January 04, 2023, 08:23:27 pm »
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« Reply #423 on: January 04, 2023, 08:24:01 pm »
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4. Let’s move off the mark now or all you guys might face primary challenges from real constitutional conservatives.

Chip Roy IS the Constitutional Conservative primary challenger, you idiot.
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That's gonna leave a mark.
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