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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #150 on: May 08, 2022, 11:33:39 pm »
 Bono performs in Kyiv subway at Zelensky’s invitation
by Brad Dress - 05/08/22 5:58 PM ET

U2 bandmates Bono and The Edge put on a surprise performance inside a Kyiv subway on Sunday at the invitation of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in a show of solidarity as Russia war grinds into its third month.

Videos uploaded to Youtube and Twitter show Bono and Edge performing under pink neon lights inside a Kyiv subway station, playing hits like “With or Without You” and “Sunday Bloody Sunday.”

The rock legends also performed a rendition of the classic song “Stand by Me,” changing the words to “Stand by Ukraine” as they sang along with a group of Ukrainian soldiers.

Bono also gave brief remarks, praising Ukrainians for fighting and defending their country against Russian forces.

“The people of Ukraine are not just fighting for your own freedom, you’re fighting for all of us,” Bono told the crowd, according to a video recorded by RTE News.

U2 tweeted on Sunday that Bono and Edge traveled to Ukraine for the performance at the request of Zelensky.

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #151 on: May 09, 2022, 12:10:42 am »
Ukraine was actually split in its support of nazi Germany in WW2. @Cyber Liberty 

The Western,  Ukrainan-speaking part of the country supported nazi Germany, considered them liberators and fought along side them, including in the the murder of Ukrainian Jews.    The Eastern, Russian-speaking part of the couuntry fought with the Russian forces and considered them liberators.

Sound familiar?

Sounds like complete bullshit to me.  To insinuate that Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainians were nazis while Russian-speaking Ukrainians were patriots to Mother Russia is a total fabrication with no basis in truth.  The fact is that all of Ukraine hated Soviet Russia due to the decade-long persecution that Stalin had enacted on them.  Yes, there were Ukrainians that took on the Wehrmacht uniform.  Yes, there were Ukrainians that joined the Einsatzgruppen - both Ukrainian-speaking and Russian-speaking.  But when it came to the Jews, Stalin killed more Ukrainian Jews than did Hitler.

And none of this has a damn thing to do with Russia's invasion, depopulation, and planned annexation of a sovereign nation.  This new (and false) historical invention of a dividing line between right and wrong drawn up during WWII as a new justification excusing Putin's actions is beyond pathetic.
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« Reply #152 on: May 09, 2022, 12:19:11 am »
Sounds like complete bullshit to me.  To insinuate that Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainians were nazis while Russian-speaking Ukrainians were patriots to Mother Russia is a total fabrication with no basis in truth.  The fact is that all of Ukraine hated Soviet Russia due to the decade-long persecution that Stalin had enacted on them.  Yes, there were Ukrainians that took on the Wehrmacht uniform.  Yes, there were Ukrainians that joined the Einsatzgruppen - both Ukrainian-speaking and Russian-speaking.  But when it came to the Jews, Stalin killed more Ukrainian Jews than did Hitler.

And none of this has a damn thing to do with Russia's invasion, depopulation, and planned annexation of a sovereign nation.  This new (and false) historical invention of a dividing line between right and wrong drawn up during WWII as a new justification excusing Putin's actions is beyond pathetic.

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The "Surrender Monkey/Better Red than Dead Crowd" will pull all sorts of stuff out of their butts because they are terrified of the Russians,and looking for any excuse they can find or make up to support them and excuse their aggression because that is not as embarrassing as coming right out and begging,"PLEASE don't hurt me,Master Putin!"
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« Reply #153 on: May 09, 2022, 12:20:38 am »
Between U2 and Jill, who is more annoying, though?

Jill.
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« Reply #154 on: May 09, 2022, 12:22:46 am »
Jill.

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That one is easy. Jill.

U-2 has actual musical talent,and the only "talent" Jill has is "blowing the old guy".
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« Reply #155 on: May 09, 2022, 12:22:48 am »
Jill.

It's "Dr. Jill" to you, buddy!    :laugh:
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #156 on: May 09, 2022, 12:54:56 am »
Ukraine troops retreat from Popasna, Luhansk governor confirms

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/chechnyas-kadyrov-says-his-soldiers-control-popasna-ukraine-disagrees-2022-05-08/

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Ukrainian troops retreated from the eastern Ukrainian city of Popasna, the governor of Luhansk region said on Sunday, confirming previous reports that it had been taken.

The head of Russia's republic of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, had said on Sunday his troops had taken control of most of Popasna.

Luhansk Governor Serhiy Gaidai told Ukraine television that Ukrainian troops had retreated to take up more fortified positions, adding: "Everything was destroyed there."

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« Reply #157 on: May 09, 2022, 12:57:03 am »
If Putin and company have any sense,they will declare this to be a "great victory for Holy Mother Russia",and announce they are pulling their combat troops back to Russia "Now that our goal has been reached".

Total Horse Hillary,but any excuse is a good excuse when you are desperate.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #158 on: May 09, 2022, 01:04:51 am »
Is Ukraine conducting a sabotage campaign inside Russia?

https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/is-ukraine-conducting-a-sabotage-campaign-inside-russia-3e859999-e689-4d90-9dfc-67cbbc356eb6

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A deadly fire at an aerospace research institute in Tver, northwest of Moscow. Another blaze at a munitions factory in Perm, more than 1,100 kilometers (680 miles) to the east. And fires in two separate oil depots in Bryansk, near Belarus.

Coincidences, or a sign that Ukrainians or their supporters are mounting a campaign of sabotage inside Russia to punish Moscow for invading their country?

Since the blaze at the Central Research Institute of the Aerospace Defense Forces in Tver on April 21, which killed at least 17 people, social media has leapt on every report of a fire somewhere in Russia -- especially at a sensitive location -- as a sign that the country is under covert attack.

No one is claiming responsibility, but analysts say at least some of the incidents, particularly those in Bryansk, point to a possible effort by Kyiv to bring the war to their invaders.

In a post on Telegram, Mykhaylo Podolyak, a senior advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, called the fires "divine intervention."

"Large fuel depots periodically burn... for different reasons," he wrote. "Karma is a cruel thing."

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In a massive country such as Russia, a fire at a remote factory or building would normally not be particularly eyebrow-raising.

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #159 on: May 09, 2022, 01:24:47 am »

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #160 on: May 09, 2022, 01:30:07 am »
It's "Dr. Jill" to you, buddy!    :laugh:

My bad.
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« Reply #161 on: May 09, 2022, 01:32:36 am »
Is Ukraine conducting a sabotage campaign inside Russia?

If not, then they damn sure ought to be, considering what Russia has done to them.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #162 on: May 09, 2022, 02:15:52 am »
Is Ukraine conducting a sabotage campaign inside Russia?



@Elderberry

I'd say there is an equal chance it might be Russians doing it. There are a lot of Russian parents,uncles and aunts,and other relatives now who now have young male relatives dead due to the invasion of Ukraine.

And it looks more and more every day like all those deaths were for nothing.
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« Reply #163 on: May 09, 2022, 11:10:03 am »
Vladimir Putin Defends War, Ignores 'Ukraine' in Victory Day Parade Speech

https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-victory-day-speech-may-9-defends-war-ignores-ukraine-donbas-1704715

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Russian President Vladimir Putin in his Victory Day speech before a military parade in Moscow's Red Square defended his ongoing invasion in Ukraine as the "only right solution," without mentioning the neighboring country by name.

Speaking at the 77th annual commemoration of the end of World War II, known in Russia as the Great Patriotic War, Putin laid out his goals in Ukraine nearly 80 days into his so-called "special military operation," where Russian forces have been unable to achieve most of their strategic objectives.

Defending his invasion, which began in February, the Russian leader said he believed the West was arming Kyiv to attack Crimea. His forces annexed the peninsula from Ukraine in 2014.

"NATO countries did not want to listen to us. They had different plans, and we saw it," Putin said. "They were planning an invasion into our historic lands, including Crimea."

"It was a threat we couldn't accept, it was a threat directly to our border. Everything showed that we are dealing with Nazis and we have to do something about it," Putin said, circling back to his rhetoric that one of the Kremlin's key goals is to "de-nazify" Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #164 on: May 09, 2022, 11:11:06 am »
Vladimir Putin Defends War, Ignores 'Ukraine' in Victory Day Parade Speech

https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-victory-day-speech-may-9-defends-war-ignores-ukraine-donbas-1704715



So, lies and propaganda from Putin.  The fish does rot from the head.

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« Reply #165 on: May 09, 2022, 11:13:14 am »
Putin twists the truth as he declares Russia is now fighting for its survival during Victory Day parade featuring Ukraine invasion 'Z' symbols – while Doomsday jet flyover is mysteriously axed

By CHRIS PLEASANCE FOR MAILONLINE
9 May 2022

Vladimir Putin gave a chest-beating speech to his troops during Moscow's Victory Day parade today - telling soldiers that they are now fighting for the security of the nation against what he called Western plans to invade.

Seeking to re-frame his war in Ukraine as a war between Russia and the West, he declared NATO to be the aggressor and said he is trying to deescalate the situation with a 'special military operation' against a 'neo-Nazi' regime in Kyiv, declaring that launching the attack was 'the only right decision' he could have taken.

He also sought to twist the truth of what is happening on the ground in Ukraine, hailing a day of 'great victory' despite Russia's battlefield defeats and telling his men they are fighting a just war despite plentiful evidence of war crimes in occupied territories.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10796519/Ukraine-war-Victory-Day-parades-place-Russia.html

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« Reply #166 on: May 09, 2022, 11:16:51 am »
Justin Trudeau makes surprise visit to Ukraine

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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a surprise visit to Irpin, Ukraine on Sunday, the town's mayor Olexander Markushyn said in a Telegram post alongside photos of Trudeau walking around the town.

Driving the news: Trudeau also traveled to Kyiv, where he presided over the raising of the Canadian flag at the country's embassy and announced its reopening, per Politico.

•   During a joint press conference in Kyiv alongside Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Trudeau announced more military assistance for Ukraine, including for drone cameras, satellite imagery, small arms and ammunition.

•   Trudeau also announced additional funding for demining operations, women's and human rights organizations, and the World Food Program. Canada will impose new sanctions on 40 Russians and five Russian entities, and remove trade tariffs on Ukrainian imports coming to Canada for the next year, he added.

What they're saying: "He has just had the honor of speaking with the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau," Markushyn wrote. "He came to Irpin to see with his own eyes all the horror that the Russian occupiers had done to our city."

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #167 on: May 09, 2022, 11:18:37 am »
Russian ambassador is doused in red paint while laying flowers at Soviet war memorial in Poland

By CHRIS PLEASANCE FOR MAILONLINE
9 May 2022

Vladimir Putin appeared to walk with a limp and sat with a blanket over his lap during Victory Day commemorations in Moscow today, raising fresh doubts over his health.

The Russian leader, 69, attended the event - which commemorates Nazi Germany's surrender in 1945 - to give a speech during which he projected an image of Russian strength and military might despite the faltering war in Ukraine.

But at several points - including as he left a speaking podium and went to the Tomb of the Unknown Solider to lay a wreath - Putin appeared to be walking with a heavy step, as if trying to disguise a limp.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10797021/Ukraine-war-Putin-seen-limping-Victory-Day-parade.html

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #168 on: May 09, 2022, 11:20:34 am »
Putin's 40th colonel to die in Ukraine is confirmed today as Vladimir marks Victory Day in Moscow

By WILL STEWART
9 May 2022

Vladimir Putin has lost his 40th colonel in Ukraine, it was confirmed today as he marked Victory Day in Moscow.

Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Blinov, 42, was killed in March but news of his death was strenuously denied by Russian officials.

His death has been confirmed by a picture on his grave in Volgograd, south-western Russia.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10796811/Putins-40th-colonel-die-Ukraine-confirmed-today-Vladimir-marks-Victory-Day-Moscow.html

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« Reply #169 on: May 09, 2022, 12:58:37 pm »
Mine-sniffing dog 'Patron' barks at Trudeau as Zelensky awards him medal


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A Ukrainian bomb-sniffing dog and his owner were awarded a service medal by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Sunday during a ceremony in Kyiv alongside Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

The Jack Russell terrier, named "Patron," has been credited with sniffing out more than 200 explosive devices since Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Patron has become a symbol of Ukrainian patriotism, and his mine hunting has been chronicled by media worldwide since the start of the war. Patron struggled to maintain his composure during the ceremony and barked at the Canadian prime minister as he was awarded his medal.



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« Reply #170 on: May 09, 2022, 12:59:31 pm »
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« Reply #171 on: May 09, 2022, 01:09:07 pm »
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To insinuate that Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainians were nazis while Russian-speaking Ukrainians were patriots to Mother Russia is a total fabrication with no basis in truth.

If a baseless lie that's been told since Stalin and repeated continuously by Putin as justification for his illegal annexation of the Crimea and his illegal attack on Ukraine starting back in 2014.
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« Reply #172 on: May 09, 2022, 01:10:35 pm »
Drop-ins by Pelosi, Jill, U2, Trudeau - is this a war or a tourist attraction?  :pondering:
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« Reply #173 on: May 09, 2022, 01:25:36 pm »
Drop-ins by Pelosi, Jill, U2, Trudeau - is this a war or a tourist attraction?  :pondering:

Considering all of them are political empty suits...it's a tourist trip.
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« Reply #174 on: May 09, 2022, 02:55:17 pm »
To me the greatest irony is the fact that Putin has loudly cried for years that he cannot tolerate a NATO country on his border, and when this is done he'll likely have two.  Finland will get in, and so will Ukraine when Russia loses the war.  This is worse than a disaster for Russia, it's a blunder.

I agree with you about Finland. I'm not so sure about Ukraine. I think it will be more likely that they will be NATO compliant, but not in NATO in name. Another thought, Belarus may be the next domino to fall. The current govt., is a puppet of Russia but they won't stay in power forever and as Ukraine rebuilds, becomes more connected to the West, and prospers I would imagine the people of Belarus will want the same.
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