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Dem Rep. Raskin: ‘We Clearly Have a Fascistic Movement’ in GOP

Trent Baker 5 Jan 2022

During a Wednesday interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), a member of the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack, called into question the state of the GOP over the January 6 U.S. Capitol riot and the events that led up to it.

Raskin, who was discussing his new book called “Unthinkable,” argued there was “clearly” a “fascistic movement” in the Republican Party because members rejected the 2020 presidential election results. He maintained that former President Donald Trump questioned the courts and the election counts in various states in an effort to rev up his troops and propagandize them.

“We have to talk about fascism in U.S. democracy because we clearly have a fascistic movement,” Raskin advised. “We have a political party that has positioned itself outside of the constitutional order and does not accept the outcome and the results of elections that do not favor them. And that’s an essentially fascist attitude when you reject the basic premise of democracy that we accept the official and legitimate results of an election. And you don’t keep questioning the courts and questioning all of the counts in order to rev up your troops and to propagandize them.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/01/05/dem-rep-raskin-we-clearly-have-a-fascistic-movement-in-gop/
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Re: Dem Rep. Raskin: ‘We Clearly Have a Fascistic Movement’ in GOP
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2022, 05:24:58 pm »
No, we have a fascistic movement in the DNC.

Stop lying Mr. Raskin.

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Re: Dem Rep. Raskin: ‘We Clearly Have a Fascistic Movement’ in GOP
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2022, 05:26:03 pm »
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Re: Dem Rep. Raskin: ‘We Clearly Have a Fascistic Movement’ in GOP
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2022, 04:50:51 am »
Raskin has a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2022, 09:06:07 am by Killer Clouds »

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Re: Dem Rep. Raskin: ‘We Clearly Have a Fascistic Movement’ in GOP
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2022, 05:50:41 am »
Rankin has a case of the pot calling the kettle black.


Correct.

ANTIFA/BLM.  FUNDED BY SOROS....down to the uniforms. Paid, $35.00 an hour to cause riots. They are the facists,  and released by commie, demon-rats when arrested for damage. DEMON-RATS can't stop their lying, gaslighting, daily. 
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In New York it's against the law to have a gun that's not legal and if you get caught it's automatically a minimum of three years. But I guess now if you're about to get pulled over by the police you would be better off pulling out the illegal gun and robbing them at gunpoint this way you won't be charged with a felony. Democrats definitely have a strange way of thinking in California they want to throw you in prison if you don't have the Coronavirus and you choose not to wear a mask but the passed a law making it no longer a felony to knowingly giving someone the AIDS virus. You can literally cut yourself if you have AIDS have sex with 10000 people laugh at them afterwards and tell them you purposely gave them AIDS and you won't be charged with a felony but God forbid you don't have the Coronavirus and you choose not to wear a mask.

 Another brilliant law they passed in California is SB 1322 which equates to legalized child prostitution. I'll put it this way if a police officer Witnesses a car trying to pick up a five-year-old girl prostituting on the street corner it's against the law for the police to intervene. That's right a police officer in California is legally forbidden to stop anyone prostituting if they're under the age of 18 even if it's a five-year-old working the street corner.

If you want to know what the Democrat supports just invert anything that's moral.
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Re: Dem Rep. Raskin: ‘We Clearly Have a Fascistic Movement’ in GOP
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2022, 06:33:50 am »
Ted Cruz agrees with him.

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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2022, 09:09:10 am »
Ted Cruz agrees with him.
I saw that too F_ck Ted Cruz.

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Re: Dem Rep. Raskin: ‘We Clearly Have a Fascistic Movement’ in GOP
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2022, 09:22:29 am »
Ted Cruz agrees with him.

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Yet there are STILL people,some of the who are posters right here on TBR,who practically worship Cruz,and spread lies about Trump every day in the hope they can get Cruz elected President.
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Re: Dem Rep. Raskin: ‘We Clearly Have a Fascistic Movement’ in GOP
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2022, 11:54:22 am »
Wow!  Talk about projection!

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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2022, 11:59:12 am »
@dfwgator

Yet there are STILL people,some of the who are posters right here on TBR,who practically worship Cruz,and spread lies about Trump every day in the hope they can get Cruz elected President.
They will fail.  Too many comments around the web of those who supported Cruz in '16 that now despise him. 

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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2022, 12:00:36 pm »
The Democrat Party has no imagination

Calling the GOP a fascist organization has been done before many times. The Republicans are the Taliban/KKK/racist/Nazis/fascist has been done way too many times. Can’t they come up with something different?

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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2022, 12:03:47 pm »
@dfwgator

Yet there are STILL people,some of the who are posters right here on TBR,who practically worship Cruz,and spread lies about Trump every day in the hope they can get Cruz elected President.

Who here worships Ted Cruz? I see a few non questioning Trump backers  here but I don’t see anybody who does the  same with Ted Cruz

And what lies are spread here regarding Donald Trump?
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Re: Dem Rep. Raskin: ‘We Clearly Have a Fascistic Movement’ in GOP
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2022, 04:35:33 pm »
Dear Mr. Raskin, here is a tolerable definition of fascism, with the false duality of left/right politics (the original fascists were all socialists, so fascism is, in general, a left-wing phenomenon):

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is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy

Source:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Now, let's review the facts of the current situation.

First, the ultranationalist aspect is present, but in a veiled form to-date.  In 1930s Germany and Italy it principally manifested itself by the government making preferential choices based on the individual's perceived ethnic background.  Only individuals with the right ethnic background were entitled to the benefits of citizenship.

Now, consider today and determine who is doing that now.  That would be the democrats, who have divided people up according to skin color, and have decided that economic benefits should go preferentially to those they describe as people of color ("PoC"), and should be denied to those they describe as "white" (whether they are, in fact, Caucasian, anglo-saxon, or not).

So, on the ultranationalist point, that would go to the democrats, not the republicans.

Second, the aspect of dictatorial power is being reached for by the democrats.  It is they who are trying to deny political participation to their opponents, primarily through making democrat-friendly election fraud a permanent aspect of the system, and by trying to disqualify anyone who is right of center as being complicit in the fake insurrection of Jan. 6.

So, on the dictatorial power point, that goes to the democrats, not the republicans.

Third, on forcible suppression of opposition, that has already been started on the left by means of so-called "cancel culture" in which individuals who are identified as opponents of the democrats/the left are punished economically for voicing opinions contrary to the democrats agenda.  Tied to this is the attempt to disqualify political opponents through claimed association with the fake insurrection of Jan. 6.

So, on the forcible suppression point, that goes to the democrats, not the republicans.

Fourth, on the point of strong regimentation of society and the economy, it should go without saying that belongs to the democrat party.  It is the democrats who are attempting to rigidly segment people into groups based on their skin color and ethnic background, with a graded level of moral agency that correlates with skin color, and who want to rigidly segment the economy through government subsidies, mass unionization, and outright control of the economy.

So, on the regimentation point, that also goes to the democrats, not the republicans.

In other words, on almost every aspect of what makes a particular political group fascist, it is the democrat party, and their left-wing fellow travelers, who are the fascists, not the republicans.

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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2022, 04:38:10 pm »
They will fail.  Too many comments around the web of those who supported Cruz in '16 that now despise him.


I wrote off what happened in 2016 between Cruz and Trump, as just what happens during every campaign, like Bush's "Voodoo Economics"  slam against Reagan.

But as of last night, Cruz is dead to me.

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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2022, 05:02:56 pm »

I wrote off what happened in 2016 between Cruz and Trump, as just what happens during every campaign, like Bush's "Voodoo Economics"  slam against Reagan.

But as of last night, Cruz is dead to me.

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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2022, 05:07:18 pm »
@dfwgator

Yet there are STILL people,some of the who are posters right here on TBR,who practically worship Cruz,and spread lies about Trump every day in the hope they can get Cruz elected President.
I don't worship anyone but Almighty God, but I hope Cruz is playing rope-a-dope and using the Dems words while temporarily sitting on proof that the Capitol event was primarily engineered and carried out by Feds, CIs, and other false flag operatives to finally have something to smear Trump (via his supporters).

Then, those same words could be turned on the Dems for inciting insurrection, etc.

If he isn't a couple of chess moves out there, something just isn't right. He knows those words have specific meanings, legally, and I find it odd that he would use them otherwise.
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2022, 05:08:28 pm »
I don't worship anyone but Almighty God, but I hope Cruz is playing rope-a-dope and using the Dems words while temporarily sitting on proof that the Capitol event was primarily engineered and carried out by Feds, CIs, and other false flag operatives to finally have something to smear Trump (via his supporters).

Then, those same words could be turned on the Dems for inciting insurrection, etc.

If he isn't a couple of chess moves out there, something just isn't right. He knows those words have specific meanings, legally, and I find it odd that he would use them otherwise.

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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2022, 05:10:26 pm »
I don't worship anyone but Almighty God, but I hope Cruz is playing rope-a-dope and using the Dems words while temporarily sitting on proof that the Capitol event was primarily engineered and carried out by Feds, CIs, and other false flag operatives to finally have something to smear Trump (via his supporters).

Then, those same words could be turned on the Dems for inciting insurrection, etc.

If he isn't a couple of chess moves out there, something just isn't right. He knows those words have specific meanings, legally, and I find it odd that he would use them otherwise.

I would hope so, too, but unfortunately, that is a very faint, and fading, hope, and I, for one, can only really chalk it up to a misguided attempt at revenge on the part of Mr. Cruz.

I wish, I hope, that I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

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Re: Dem Rep. Raskin: ‘We Clearly Have a Fascistic Movement’ in GOP
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2022, 10:27:45 pm »
Who here worships Ted Cruz? I see a few non questioning Trump backers  here but I don’t see anybody who does the  same with Ted Cruz

And what lies are spread here regarding Donald Trump?

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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2022, 10:31:18 pm »
I don't worship anyone but Almighty God, but I hope Cruz is playing rope-a-dope and using the Dems words while temporarily sitting on proof that the Capitol event was primarily engineered and carried out by Feds, CIs, and other false flag operatives to finally have something to smear Trump (via his supporters).

Then, those same words could be turned on the Dems for inciting insurrection, etc.

If he isn't a couple of chess moves out there, something just isn't right. He knows those words have specific meanings, legally, and I find it odd that he would use them otherwise.

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I have found a number of odd things he has done over the years,and the ONLY explanation I can come up with is someone has some industrial-strength blackmail on him or someone he loves.

Since he seems to be one of the smartest,and maybe THE smarted elected officials we have,it breaks my heart,but he just can't be trusted.

Damn shame,but there it is.
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2022, 10:33:14 pm »
@Smokin Joe

I have found a number of odd things he has done over the years,and the ONLY explanation I can come up with is someone has some industrial-strength blackmail on him or someone he loves.

Since he seems to be one of the smartest,and maybe THE smarted elected officials we have,it breaks my heart,but he just can't be trusted.

Damn shame,but there it is.
I think DeeCee is like Skull & Bones, in that everybody has dirt on everybody else, and that counterbalance is all that keeps them all out of prison.
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2022, 10:36:08 pm »
I saw that too F_ck Ted Cruz.

I agree.  The establishment.  Disliked him for changing his speech, after begging TRUMP convention to let him speak.  Then, left with Obama on AF-1. 

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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2022, 10:41:30 pm »
@LMAO

Read many posts,bubba?

I suggest reading a few right here on this thread.

I’ll ask again.

 Who here has unquestioning support for Ted Cruz? And what lies on this forum have been told about Donald Trump?

You make a claim and you’re demanding I back up your claim. No,  the burden is  on you
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2022, 10:42:28 pm »
I think DeeCee is like Skull & Bones, in that everybody has dirt on everybody else, and that counterbalance is all that keeps them all out of prison.

That’s probably the best way to describe them

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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2022, 10:51:53 pm »
Re:  Ted Cruz

The only explanation I can fathom for his comments is self-preservation.  The Democrats are beginning a move to disqualify Republican candidates for office by tying them to an act of sedition against the government of the United States.  Ted Cruz does not want to lose his own qualification, so he is positioning himself as an opponent of sedition.

What Ted Cruz should do is tell the Democrats to pound sand, and to stick their standard straight up their collective asses.  Why in the hell do Republicans allow Democrats to hold them to a standard that Democrats themselves don't believe in?  Cruz had his moment to lead by example here, but he cowered to the Democrat narrative instead.

I am proud of practically everything he has said or done up until this point, but this is a deal breaker for me.  This is where we part ways.
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