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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
« Reply #125 on: January 13, 2022, 09:09:26 pm »
Supreme Court Rejects Biden’s OSHA Vaccine Mandate on Private Employers; Upholds CMS Mandate

The U.S. Supreme Court blocked President Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate on large private businesses through the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) on Thursday, but upheld a Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) mandate.

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2022/01/13/supreme-court-rejects-bidens-osha-vaccine-mandate-on-private-employers-upholds-cms-mandate/

So, could the Ceters of Medicaid and Medicare (basically Social Security) demand that anyone receiving benefits be vaccinated???
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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
« Reply #126 on: January 13, 2022, 09:11:04 pm »
I disagree, but we can leave that for another day.

Exactly, every Dept, agency and commission that ever existed was established first by congress.  Hence that delegation.
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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
« Reply #127 on: January 13, 2022, 09:12:32 pm »
So, could the Ceters of Medicaid and Medicare (basically Social Security) demand that anyone receiving benefits be vaccinated???

I think these mandates apply to business (medical).  Not individuals.
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« Reply #128 on: January 13, 2022, 09:20:07 pm »
So, could the Ceters of Medicaid and Medicare (basically Social Security) demand that anyone receiving benefits be vaccinated???

Interesting question.  Quite possibly benefits could be predicated on vaccination status.

Again, if you let the devil pay the piper, the devil gets to call the tune.

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« Reply #129 on: January 13, 2022, 09:20:30 pm »
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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
« Reply #130 on: January 13, 2022, 09:25:40 pm »
To read the opinion on the private workplace vaccine mandate
file:///C:/Users/airfb/AppData/Local/Temp/21a244_hgci-1.pdf

To read the opinion on the mandate for federally funded healthcare facilities
file:///C:/Users/airfb/AppData/Local/Temp/21a240_d18e.pdf


If those pdf links don't work you can get the links at the bottom of this story

https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2022/01/13/breaking-scotus-serves-up-a-brutal-defeat-for-joe-biden-on-vaccine-mandate-for-businesses-n506125
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« Reply #131 on: January 13, 2022, 09:52:56 pm »
So, could the Ceters of Medicaid and Medicare (basically Social Security) demand that anyone receiving benefits be vaccinated???

According to Kavanaugh, Robert's, and the other liberals, yes.
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« Reply #132 on: January 13, 2022, 10:07:33 pm »
When told the news of the SC decision Joe asked, "How did Rehnquist vote"?
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« Reply #133 on: January 13, 2022, 10:16:16 pm »
Conservatives Rejoice After Supreme Court Strikes Down OSHA’s Vaccine Mandate: ‘A Win for the Constitution’

Conservatives rejoiced after the Supreme Court on Thursday rejected President Biden’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) vaccine mandate affecting over 84 million American workers, deeming it a “win for the Constitution.”

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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
« Reply #134 on: January 13, 2022, 10:49:27 pm »
When told the news of the SC decision Joe asked, "How did Rehnquist vote"?

And Trump, unable to resist the opportunity, said 'I don't know Joe, why don't you ask Tip O'Neill.'
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« Reply #135 on: January 13, 2022, 10:57:48 pm »
When told the news of the SC decision Joe asked, "How did Rehnquist vote"?

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Did he seriously say that?

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« Reply #136 on: January 13, 2022, 11:04:36 pm »
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Did he seriously say that?

I wouldn't put it past him...but I do believe it was a joke.
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« Reply #137 on: January 13, 2022, 11:06:01 pm »
And Trump, unable to resist the opportunity, said 'I don't know Joe, why don't you ask Tip O'Neill.'

Top Notch!  :beer:
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« Reply #138 on: January 13, 2022, 11:08:17 pm »
White House Spokesperson Jennifer Psaki said the Biden administration would “not be deterred” by the Supreme Court decision, and all employers should immediately continue to “initiate vaccination requirements.”

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/01/13/white-house-calls-on-businesses-to-ignore-supreme-court-decision-on-vaccination-and-force-the-vaccine-mandate-regardless-of-constitutional-merit/

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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
« Reply #139 on: January 13, 2022, 11:14:24 pm »
White House Spokesperson Jennifer Psaki said the Biden administration would “not be deterred” by the Supreme Court decision, and all employers should immediately continue to “initiate vaccination requirements.”

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/01/13/white-house-calls-on-businesses-to-ignore-supreme-court-decision-on-vaccination-and-force-the-vaccine-mandate-regardless-of-constitutional-merit/

So, it matters not to China Joe and his administration what the SCOTUS ruling is -- just ignore it. That's from Bammy and Holder's playbook.  The courts would rule and they would ignore the ruling and not comply.

The way I see that comment; China Joe is above the SCOTUS and he's telling the country that SCOTUS is irrelevant. 

So, it doesn't really matter how they rule, Joe is going to do whatever he wants.   9999hair out0000
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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
« Reply #140 on: January 13, 2022, 11:15:14 pm »
OSHA's vaccine mandate for private employers was struck down by the Supreme Court while the vaccine requirement for federal healthcare workers remains in place. @KILM3NY reports.  (Video)


https://mobile.twitter.com/newsmax/status/1481721699854868495

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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
« Reply #141 on: January 13, 2022, 11:17:14 pm »
OSHA's vaccine mandate for private employers was struck down by the Supreme Court while the vaccine requirement for federal healthcare workers remains in place. @KILM3NY reports.  (Video)


https://mobile.twitter.com/newsmax/status/1481721699854868495

It doesn't matter -- Joe is directing employers to implement mandates anyways!
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« Reply #142 on: January 13, 2022, 11:26:05 pm »
White House Spokesperson Jennifer Psaki said the Biden administration would “not be deterred” by the Supreme Court decision, and all employers should immediately continue to “initiate vaccination requirements.”

Sounds just like something a fascist would say.
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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
« Reply #143 on: January 13, 2022, 11:27:57 pm »
Sounds just like something a fascist would say.

How do employers and employees then fight back?  They have no redress??
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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
« Reply #144 on: January 13, 2022, 11:42:44 pm »
It doesn't matter -- Joe is directing employers to implement mandates anyways!

He can do that all he wants..SCOTUS said he has no authority so it boils down to an employer's decision not the federal government...and I am betting someone will eventually sue their employer now if they mandate wearing a mask at work...
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« Reply #145 on: January 13, 2022, 11:49:21 pm »
He can do that all he wants..SCOTUS said he has no authority so it boils down to an employer's decision not the federal government...and I am betting someone will eventually sue their employer now if they mandate wearing a mask at work...

Let's hope so!  Mandating a mask is one thing, but mandating a vaccine injected into your arm is quite another.
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« Reply #146 on: January 13, 2022, 11:54:35 pm »
I can't wait to read the legal reasoning for allowing the healthcare mandate to stand.  IF I can without twisting my mind into a pretzel!

Decision Here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf


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« Reply #147 on: January 13, 2022, 11:57:47 pm »
It doesn't matter -- Joe is directing employers to implement mandates anyways!

It's time for Congress to step up and end this BS --- for everyone.


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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
« Reply #148 on: January 13, 2022, 11:57:57 pm »
Why?

If one takes federal money, one usually gets stuck with all the conditions that come attached to that money - if the devil pays the piper, he gets to call the tune.

The mandate, as such, is apparently not within federal power, but the mandate as a string attached to federal money is; the Court has for a long time allowed Congress to impose as conditions on federal funding requirements that it could not independently impose on its own.

See link below and start on page ten:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a240_d18e.pdf

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Re: High Noon at High Court for Vax Mandate
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