Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate

[mystery-ak]

https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/trump-patriot-party/
REPORT: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate

    January 19, 2021 Natalie Winters

President Trump reportedly discussed forming a new political party – the Patriot Party  – after “feuding” with the Republican establishment.

The Wall Street Journal reported the following in its January 19th piece entitled “Trump Has Discussed Starting a New Political Party”:

President Trump has talked in recent days with associates about forming a new political party, according to people familiar with the matter, an effort to exert continued influence after he leaves the White House.

Mr. Trump discussed the matter with several aides and other people close to him last week, the people said. The president said he would want to call the new party the “Patriot Party,” the people said.

Mr. Trump has feuded in recent days with several Republican leaders including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.), who on Tuesday said Mr. Trump deserved blame for provoking the deadly Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol. Polls show Mr. Trump retains strong support among rank-and-file GOP voters.

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[cato potatoe]

After years of haranguing about binary choices, his acolytes are going to ensure socialist control of everything.  No surprise.  We all know Trump would have done this in 2016, had Cruz won the nomination. 

[skeeter]

And leave the party the despises and refuses to represent me? I'll have to think about it.

[DCPatriot]

And leave the party the despises and refuses to represent me? I'll have to think about it.

 

[catfish1957]

From what I have just read, Turtle McNoNutts blackmailed him on Pardon matters.

Turtle thrusted the knife in Trump's back and twisted it.  Anyone thinking DJT won't enact revenge, hasn't been watching very closely the past 4 years.   Joining this new party?  Let's see how much traction he gets, and how many will join him in legsilative ranks.

Considering the GOP is morphing into a McConnell, Romney et. al party?    I'll consider it.

[BassWrangler]

From what I have just read, Turtle McNoNutts blackmailed him on Pardon matters.

Turtle thrusted the knife in Trump's back and twisted it.  Anyone thinking DJT won't enact revenge, hasn't been watching very closely the past 4 years.   Joining this new party?  Let's see how much traction he gets, and how many will join him in legsilative ranks.

Considering the GOP is morphing into a McConnell, Romney et. al party?    I'll consider it.

@catfish1957 - can you elaborate on what "pardon matters" means? Or share a link to the story you read?

Thanks

[skeeter]

@catfish1957 - can you elaborate on what "pardon matters" means? Or share a link to the story you read?

Thanks

I'd like to know as well. I've been waiting to hear whom Trump pardoned going out the door but so far have heard nothing.

[catfish1957]

@catfish1957 - can you elaborate on what "pardon matters" means? Or share a link to the story you read?

Thanks

From thread earlier, and discussed on Tucker Carlson last night.

@BassWrangler
@skeeter

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,426268.msg2366462.html#msg2366462

[skeeter]

From thread earlier, and discussed on Tucker Carlson last night.

@BassWrangler
@skeeter

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,426268.msg2366462.html#msg2366462

Its a shame Trump didn't tell McConnell to piss up a rope.

[dfwgator]

From what I have just read, Turtle McNoNutts blackmailed him on Pardon matters.

Turtle thrusted the knife in Trump's back and twisted it.  Anyone thinking DJT won't enact revenge, hasn't been watching very closely the past 4 years.   Joining this new party?  Let's see how much traction he gets, and how many will join him in legsilative ranks.

Considering the GOP is morphing into a McConnell, Romney et. al party?    I'll consider it.

The best revenge is to primary the bastards out, make them the ones to start a new party.

[catfish1957]

The best revenge is to primary the bastards out, make them the ones to start a new party.

I agree 100%.  Problem is, is who is controlling the knobs and the buttons.  (McConnel et. al.) 

When you can't beat City Hall?........

[BassWrangler]

Its a shame Trump didn't tell McConnell to piss up a rope.

I'm more convinced than ever that we need a new party. I'm not thrilled about Trump leading it, to be completely honest, but the Republican Party is terminally corrupt.

And before someone claims this will just guarantee socialism, we're already looking at a decade or two of Dem wins because of their extensive, long-term strategy to take over media and education. There is no better time to start investing in a party that represents American interests and a constitutionally limited government. The Dems will ride the country into the ground. Let's be ready to pick up the pieces and rebuild. Work should start at the state level to secure conservative strongholds in a handful of carefully chosen sanctuary states.

[libertybele]

Trump may have all the right intentions but he needs to look into what it's truly going to take to run and win with a 3rd party. A new party or third party will NEVER win.  The 'rules' and requirements to qualify in each state for a third party are different.  It was set up that way in order to keep a two party system. It is also far more costly for a 3rd party. Now that we basically have a uniparty they will indeed change election rules and they again will make it impossible for a third party win.

IMHO conservatives are never going to take our country and government back unless we are able to bring the uniparty down from within just like they did with the GOP (@jmyrlefuller idea). The courts are NOT on the side of conservatism.

History is being re-written and our youth are being indoctrinated with liberal ideology and have been; that is why the push to tear down historical monuments and statues - erasing any trace of our American heritage and history. There is also a bill floating around to curtail religious freedom in this country.  This ALL needs to stop in order to achieve success in seating a 3rd party in any political office as well as the presidency.

The Biden administration will destroy our Republic; perhaps a party would be able to rise to the 'occasion' then.

[WhatWouldReaganDo]

How an Outsider President Killed a Party

[BassWrangler]

Trump may have all the right intentions but he needs to look into what it's truly going to take to run and win with a 3rd party. A new party or third party will NEVER win.  The 'rules' and requirements to qualify in each state for a third party are different.  It was set up that way in order to keep a two party system. It is also far more costly for a 3rd party. Now that we basically have a uniparty they will indeed change election rules and they again will make it impossible for a third party win.

IMHO conservatives are never going to take our country and government back unless we are able to bring the uniparty down from within just like they did with the GOP (@jmyrlefuller idea). The courts are NOT on the side of conservatism.

History is being re-written and our youth are being indoctrinated with liberal ideology and have been; that is why the push to tear down historical monuments and statues - erasing any trace of our American heritage and history. There is also a bill floating around to curtail religious freedom in this country.  This ALL needs to stop in order to achieve success in seating a 3rd party in any political office as well as the presidency.

The Biden administration will destroy our Republic; perhaps a party would be able to rise to the 'occasion' then. I question the sanity of those who backed Biden and don't know how anyone could have voted for him. He proclaims to be a practicing Catholic, yet he is going to implement laws to ensure Roe v. Wade is never overturned, stomping on religious freedom, allowing refugees into this countries from areas of known Christian persecution and also granting asylum to millions of illegals. Not to mention listing those who didn't support him as domestic terrorists!

It is beyond my comprehension.  He clearly lacks character and a moral compass!

His political record, especially under Obama should have sent out red flags.

I think you make good points. My thought on the 3rd party (and I heard this here - it's not my idea) is that we start at the state level. A 3rd party with control of one or more state legislatures can work within those states to change the rules. This isn't something that will happen in 4 years; we are talking decades. But it will never happen if we don't try.

Regarding bringing the corrupt parties down, isn't that in effect what Trump attempted to do? The deep state crushed him like a grape. He was totally defeated and everything he accomplished is about to be undone. Not a single one of the corrupt Dems or Repubs was indicted. OK, I guess that one lawyer who faked a document did get indicted, but all the big players walked away unscathed.

[skeeter]

I'm more convinced than ever that we need a new party. I'm not thrilled about Trump leading it, to be completely honest, but the Republican Party is terminally corrupt.

And before someone claims this will just guarantee socialism, we're already looking at a decade or two of Dem wins because of their extensive, long-term strategy to take over media and education. There is no better time to start investing in a party that represents American interests and a constitutionally limited government. The Dems will ride the country into the ground. Let's be ready to pick up the pieces and rebuild. Work should start at the state level to secure conservative strongholds in a handful of carefully chosen sanctuary states.

My thinking has evolved on this subject but I believe you are right. Sometimes an organization becomes so irredeemably corrupt it is beyond salvage. At this point we really have nothing to lose.

Trump doesn’t have to be a candidate in a new party but I’m afraid it’ll need his star power to launch.

[bilo]

The best revenge is to primary the bastards out, make them the ones to start a new party.

It's been tried several times and ultimately fails because so many of the "reformers" either are corrupted by the DC establishment, or were never really reformers to begin with.

A new party changes the dynamic because those that don't hold to the party's principals have no place to go.

The problem with a new party is too much attention is spent on electing people to the federal govt. If a new party is going to be successful it has to have a strong base. IOW, a new party must first control local, county and state elected offices. If Trump goes ahead with the Patriot Party I'm sure he will want to attack DC first, but those below him must identify States where there is a strong desire for a 3rd Party and develop that quickly.

[bilo]

I think you make good points. My thought on the 3rd party (and I heard this here - it's not my idea) is that we start at the state level. A 3rd party with control of one or more state legislatures can work within those states to change the rules. This isn't something that will happen in 4 years; we are talking decades. But it will never happen if we don't try.

Regarding bringing the corrupt parties down, isn't that in effect what Trump attempted to do? The deep state crushed him like a grape. He was totally defeated and everything he accomplished is about to be undone. Not a single one of the corrupt Dems or Repubs was indicted. OK, I guess that one lawyer who faked a document did get indicted, but all the big players walked away unscathed.

It won't take decades. The process will accelerate as the unrepresented in a State begin to realize there is a real alternative.

It is a massive undertaking, but once it gets going in a solid conservative Trump State it will take off. It's more important to get people elected to the local school board than Congress at the outset. We need State Legislators and Secretary's of State, Congress is just gravy.

DC is owned by China, and large Corp's. that's not going to be changed.

[bilo]

My thinking has evolved on this subject but I believe you are right. Sometimes an organization becomes so irredeemably corrupt it is beyond salvage. At this point we really have nothing to lose.

Trump doesn’t have to be a candidate in a new party but I’m afraid it’ll need his star power to launch.

 

We need Trump to get the ball rolling.

[Cyber Liberty]

How an Outsider President Killed a Party

A good article, despite it being Pollutico, about the demise of the Whigs.  the Republicans are headed in that direction, but not if I can help it.

[christian]

If Trump is willing to enter the maelstrom again,more power to him,he reversed the Deep State better than any one else i have seen.  However, Remember Ross Perot ? He tried a third party and got the Palin, Flynn, Trump treatment and BOTH parties agreed to the PUBLIC, IT DIDN'T MATTER IF YOU VOTED FOR A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, JUST DON'T VOTE FOR ROSS PEROT.
Yeah,the Deep State was active even back then.  A third party has to defeat the democrats and Republicans merging as one to defeat a third party.  Do you think a third party can ?
 

[skeeter]

If Trump is willing to enter the maelstrom again,more power to him,he reversed the Deep State better than any one else i have seen.  However, Remember Ross Perot ? He tried a third party and got the Palin, Flynn, Trump treatment and BOTH parties agreed to the PUBLIC, IT DIDN'T MATTER IF YOU VOTED FOR A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, JUST DON'T VOTE FOR ROSS PEROT.
Yeah,the Deep State was active even back then.  A third party has to defeat the democrats and Republicans merging as one to defeat a third party.  Do you think a third party can ?
 

I believe a party unequivocally running on a platform of America First will have great appeal among the voters of both parties.

[dfwgator]

I believe a party unequivocally running on a platform of America First will have great appeal among the voters of both parties.

Such a party cannot be a traditional Conservative party as we've known,   there has to be a big tent,  with the focus on several points,   the rest folks can agree to disagree on.  But it is going to take a big coalition to make this work, it cannot be narrow in scope.

[BassWrangler]

If Trump is willing to enter the maelstrom again,more power to him,he reversed the Deep State better than any one else i have seen.  However, Remember Ross Perot ? He tried a third party and got the Palin, Flynn, Trump treatment and BOTH parties agreed to the PUBLIC, IT DIDN'T MATTER IF YOU VOTED FOR A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, JUST DON'T VOTE FOR ROSS PEROT.
Yeah,the Deep State was active even back then.  A third party has to defeat the democrats and Republicans merging as one to defeat a third party.  Do you think a third party can ?
 

You're still talking about leaping right into national elections. Scroll up and read again.

[BassWrangler]

It's been tried several times and ultimately fails because so many of the "reformers" either are corrupted by the DC establishment, or were never really reformers to begin with.

A new party changes the dynamic because those that don't hold to the party's principals have no place to go.

The problem with a new party is too much attention is spent on electing people to the federal govt. If a new party is going to be successful it has to have a strong base. IOW, a new party must first control local, county and state elected offices. If Trump goes ahead with the Patriot Party I'm sure he will want to attack DC first, but those below him must identify States where there is a strong desire for a 3rd Party and develop that quickly.

Yes, exactly