Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate

[christian]

Peoples perspectives are often tainted by feelings and perspectives of which side of the fence you are on.   Yours is more distant than mine.   We are living in the day of Washington DC drama enhanced be extreme politicalizations, by hostile foreign influences.

[Cyber Liberty]

You mean heaven?   

p.s. we call it piney woods.

I liked it, but did not stay long.

[catfish1957]

I liked it, but did not stay long.

You live in a beautiful area too.  Was out there a few years ago for the birth of a grandchild. Awesome views though I kind of get a reversed claustraphobic feel when I am not in a canopy of tall pine trees.

[jafo2010]

catfish1957      I did not see the word "TYPE", but matters not.  That TYPE would never make it to Iowa.  Most likely.

Last thing the Republicans need is a weak sister like Jeb or Kasich, the latter sounding more left than most Democommies.

We need to develop a process to certify if one is conservative, if you do not want more RINOs being elected, to any office. 

I suspect some folks are Republican because Mom and Dad were, but in their heart, they are Dems.

In my case, I was born into a union household, staunch Dem parents.  Had I registered as a Republican, I would have been disowned by my mother, for certain.

I ran for office, school board in PA, where one runs on both party tickets, and got elected on both.  I was the 2nd vote getter on the Republican side, a Democrat, despite running against 13 Republicans.  I got 87% of the general election voting, leading everyone.  My first speech was to the community Republican Party Committee.  Next day, I got a call from one of the committee members.  She said, you are no Democrat.  You are a conservative Republican, and you need to change your registration now, because I can see a great future for you in politics.  I told her, I do that and my parents disown me, I will not do that.  She and I became great friends.  She died after knowing her for about six years, and I felt like I lost a best lifelong friend. 

I will support Trump, or if he does not run, whoever wins the nomination.  Top of my list is Ron DeSantis.

[catfish1957]

catfish1957      I did not see the word "TYPE", but matters not.  That TYPE would never make it to Iowa.  Most likely.

Last thing the Republicans need is a weak sister like Jeb or Kasich, the latter sounding more left than most Democommies.

We need to develop a process to certify if one is conservative, if you do not want more RINOs being elected, to any office. 

I suspect some folks are Republican because Mom and Dad were, but in their heart, they are Dems.

In my case, I was born into a union household, staunch Dem parents.  Had I registered as a Republican, I would have been disowned by my mother, for certain.

I ran for office, school board in PA, where one runs on both party tickets, and got elected on both.  I was the 2nd vote getter on the Republican side, a Democrat, despite running against 13 Republicans.  I got 87% of the general election voting, leading everyone.  My first speech was to the community Republican Party Committee.  Next day, I got a call from one of the committee members.  She said, you are no Democrat.  You are a conservative Republican, and you need to change your registration now, because I can see a great future for you in politics.  I told her, I do that and my parents disown me, I will not do that.  She and I became great friends.  She died after knowing her for about six years, and I felt like I lost a best lifelong friend. 

I will support Trump, or if he does not run, whoever wins the nomination.  Top of my list is Ron DeSantis.

Good story, and I enjoyed.  But let me remind you we are not that far removed from the likes of where McCain and Romney were shoved down our throats.  I still sadly believe there is enough of a Swamp element within the GOP to repeat those misdeeds  Proof?  The most powerful republican now wears a shell, and just capitulated to the dims on the Fillibuster issue.  Think the likes of Cruz, Hawley, or Cotton could wrestle control from McConnell and change the direction of the party?  Not a chance.

[Cyber Liberty]

You live in a beautiful area too.  Was out there a few years ago for the birth of a grandchild. Awesome views though I kind of get a reversed claustraphobic feel when I am not in a canopy of tall pine trees.

I was in Cherokee County for a while....

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Corbe, or anyone, why is the HILL COUNTRY of Texas not listed as one of the best places to retire in the USA?  I have heard nothing but great things about the area.

Unlike San Diego, which is very costly for housing, and perhaps other things negative other than weather, I have heard nothing but great things about HILL COUNTRY, Texas.

I grew up there, and would never choose to live there in retirement.

Why?  Like the West Coast, it might be pleasant scenery and all that, but it has become one of the most expensive places in Texas to live, too crowded, and too many looney lefties(excluding the members of this forum, of course).  Reminds me of the years I spent in California.

I chose East Texas to retire.  Cheaper, more down to earth people.  Those are tactical reasons.

Strategically, it is about water resources.

The Texas Hill Country is pretty arid, and has tremendous water usage with all those pretty golf courses to water and lakes to keep filled to play in.  The region does not contain enough water supply over the long run and water will be a huge issue in years to come.  East Texas is blessed with abundant lakes and more rainfall.  Here life is good.

[XenaLee]

I grew up there, and would never choose to live there in retirement.

Why?  Like the West Coast, it might be pleasant scenery and all that, but it has become one of the most expensive places in Texas to live, too crowded, and too many looney lefties(excluding the members of this forum, of course).  Reminds me of the years I spent in California.

I chose East Texas to retire.  Cheaper, more down to earth people.  Those are tactical reasons.

Strategically, it is about water resources.

The Texas Hill Country is pretty arid, and has tremendous water usage with all those pretty golf courses to water and lakes to keep filled to play in.  The region does not contain enough water supply over the long run and water will be a huge issue in years to come.  East Texas is blessed with abundant lakes and more rainfall.  Here life is good.

And if East Texas ever runs out of water, all you'd have to do is cross into Louisiana.   Every time I ever did it immediately started raining!  lol

[IsailedawayfromFR]

And if East Texas ever runs out of water, all you'd have to do is cross into Louisiana.   Every time I ever did it immediately started raining!  lol

Yep, it rains there a lot.

When I moved to New Orleans, it rained every day from January to May and we had over 100 inches of rain that year.

Our water bill was nil as the water was so abundant.

[jafo2010]

McConnell has pulled a few Trump's of late, shooting his mouth off, but in the end, doing what needed to be done.  He will not end up agreeing to end the filibuster.  It could well end the Republican Party, and I do NOT think he is the rat b*st*rd McCain was in kicking his own party in the jewels.

Also, I suspect this is McConnell's last term in the senate.  I believe I heard that said a month or two ago.

If Trump used TERM LIMITS as part of his plank should he run again, a true draining of the swamp, and eliminating retirement for Congress members, it would be a HUGE plank!!!
 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

If Trump used TERM LIMITS as part of his plank should he run again, a true draining of the swamp, and eliminating retirement for Congress members, it would be a HUGE plank!!!
 

[DCPatriot]

If Trump used TERM LIMITS as part of his plank should he run again, a true draining of the swamp, and eliminating retirement for Congress members, it would be a HUGE plank!!!

Term Limits also forces the politico to condense his/her corruption in a shorter time period...making it easier to identify/prosecute.

[BassWrangler]

Term Limits also forces the politico to condense his/her corruption in a shorter time period...making it easier to identify/prosecute.

Good point. But I guess it will take a constitutional convention to get term limits. That might be opening a big can of worms.

[corbe]

Good point. But I guess it will take a constitutional convention to get term limits. That might be opening a big can of worms.

   I agree @BassWrangler IF 'they' can swing a National Election just think what they could do with 37 state elections, right now.

[Cyber Liberty]

   I agree @BassWrangler IF 'they' can swing a National Election just think what they could do with 37 state elections, right now.

The ConCon is the most dangerous idea floated in the 21st Century. 

[BassWrangler]

The ConCon is the most dangerous idea floated in the 21st Century.

   I agree @BassWrangler IF 'they' can swing a National Election just think what they could do with 37 state elections, right now.

Yeah, I'm not drinking from that punch bowl unless we've jettisoned the blue state turds.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yeah, I'm not drinking from that punch bowl unless we've jettisoned the blue state turds.

If there were to be an Article V Convention, it would not be George Washington, Ben Franklin or James Madison writing it.  It would be Pelosi, Schumer and Turtle, and all amendments would be ratified by the States en masse.  The entire Bill of Rights would be thrown out for good, and the rest of the Constitution would be in the worst legalize ever seen by modern man.

And that's not even addressing the obvious problem:  If the Government ignores the current Constitution, then why would anybody expect them to observe a new one where they've pre-written all the loopholes?

[BassWrangler]

If there were to be an Article V Convention, it would not be George Washington, Ben Franklin or James Madison writing it.  It would be Pelosi, Schumer and Turtle, and all amendments would be ratified by the States en masse.  The entire Bill of Rights would be thrown out for good, and the rest of the Constitution would be in the worst legalize ever seen by modern man.

And that's not even addressing the obvious problem:  If the Government ignores the current Constitution, then why would anybody expect them to observe a new one where they've pre-written all the loopholes?

All good points. I don't think there is any document one could write that would prevent morally corrupt people from re-interpreting it to mean whatever they want, or just ignoring it altogether.

[XenaLee]

All good points. I don't think there is any document one could write that would prevent morally corrupt people from re-interpreting it to mean whatever they want, or just ignoring it altogether.

And....not even the founders, who were all moral, Christian men, could have envisioned the evil permeating the leftist Democrat Party.   They didn't have to deal with 'that' reality back then.

[Bigun]

The ConCon is the most dangerous idea floated in the 21st Century.

  

And I have yet to find anyone who can explain to me what would make these people observe the constraints of a newly amended constitution any more than the observe those imposed by the one we already have.

[Smokin Joe]

A journey of 1,000 miles begins with one step.  I've taken a step or two, and I encourage all to follow.  Start by getting appointed to Precinct Committeeman in the communities in which we live.  Then start seizing leadership roles in the County Parties.

Let the fertile seeds take root....

Sadly, the weeds have taken over, and they are incredibly fertile.

And the Media see that they have ample manure to grow in.

[Smokin Joe]

 

And I have yet to find anyone who can explain to me what would make these people observe the constraints of a newly amended constitution any more than the observe those imposed by the one we already have.

On that I agree completely. Why risk a good Constitution when those in power at the moment ignore this one, and would only ignore anything new, unless it was a huge step down from the rules we have (whether those rules are followed or not).

[XenaLee]

Sadly, the weeds have taken over, and they are incredibly fertile.

And the Media see that they have ample manure to grow in.

Which is why the RL is so paranoid about what we might do (ie 7000+ NG at the capitol).   They know damned well if the roles and positions were reversed, they'd be storming the bastille with heavily armed rebels.   And they know deep down that that is probably what "should" happen now.... with their heavy-handed persecution and ignoring Constitutional rights of non-leftists (or anyone that supports Trump openly).

[libertybele]

catfish1957      I did not see the word "TYPE", but matters not.  That TYPE would never make it to Iowa.  Most likely.

Last thing the Republicans need is a weak sister like Jeb or Kasich, the latter sounding more left than most Democommies.

We need to develop a process to certify if one is conservative, if you do not want more RINOs being elected, to any office. 

I suspect some folks are Republican because Mom and Dad were, but in their heart, they are Dems.

In my case, I was born into a union household, staunch Dem parents.  Had I registered as a Republican, I would have been disowned by my mother, for certain.

I ran for office, school board in PA, where one runs on both party tickets, and got elected on both.  I was the 2nd vote getter on the Republican side, a Democrat, despite running against 13 Republicans.  I got 87% of the general election voting, leading everyone.  My first speech was to the community Republican Party Committee.  Next day, I got a call from one of the committee members.  She said, you are no Democrat.  You are a conservative Republican, and you need to change your registration now, because I can see a great future for you in politics.  I told her, I do that and my parents disown me, I will not do that.  She and I became great friends.  She died after knowing her for about six years, and I felt like I lost a best lifelong friend. 

I will support Trump, or if he does not run, whoever wins the nomination.  Top of my list is Ron DeSantis.

Ok, I'll play along and assume that we'll see a fair election in 2024. I live in FL and the jury is still out on him for me.  He totally botched the stimulus rollout and extended benefits and there are people who still haven't see any $ or are still owed $.  That's going to take it's toll on his vote count.  He just recently rolled out a $96B budget, with only a drop in the bucket allocated for job creation and it contains a lot of fluff such as Everglades restoration.  They've been arguing about and budgeting Everglades restoration for at least the past 30 years with no progress.  The Sugar Cane companies are in control of that and will always do what they want. He sings a conservative tune off and on and I am still watching him.  He comes across at times unsure of himself and does not articulate nor connect very well with people.  Now that he's under a Biden administration, I'm carefully watching what he does.

I prefer Noem.  Solid conservative.  She is very articulate and connects well with her audience.  She's a natural leader, stands her ground and so far I haven't found anything really negative about her.

[libertybele]

On that I agree completely. Why risk a good Constitution when those in power at the moment ignore this one, and would only ignore anything new, unless it was a huge step down from the rules we have (whether those rules are followed or not).

Absolutely agree at this point in time would be the worst time to declare an Article V Convention of States or a Constitutional Convention.

You are correct the left are ignoring the Constitution and the SCOTUS has thrown it out the window.

So, what is needed is a new party/gov't inserted and completely eradicating the existing gov't.  The Constitution would still remain the Supreme Law of the land.

I don't know how to make the happen or if it's even possible.

It is my opinion of two things on this issue; one, you cannot build a new party out of the GOP. That foundation is disintegrating and you can't build on a poor foundation. The GOP is too joined at the hip with the leftist/globalist/marxists and it would take many election cycles to make a difference.  We don't have that kind of time. Secondly very constitutional conservative leadership is needed and it's going to take a team of leaders, not just one person.