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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2021, 05:11:52 pm »
Such a party cannot be a traditional Conservative party as we've known,   there has to be a big tent,  with the focus on several points,   the rest folks can agree to disagree on.  But it is going to take a big coalition to make this work, it cannot be narrow in scope.
The platform writes itself. In fact, American First was where this nation began, all contemporary labels notwithstanding. Such a party in power would compliment the constitution and federalism nicely.

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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2021, 05:19:16 pm »
Can a third party defeat election fraud and the billions of dollars of foreign money opposed to it?  Foreign money won this election,what makes you think future third part can over throw it?  billions, not millions
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2021, 05:22:22 pm »
Can a third party defeat election fraud and the billions of dollars of foreign money opposed to it?  Foreign money won this election,what makes you think future third part can over throw it?  billions, not millions
Neither can the GOP. We have lost. We now have nothing to lose.

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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2021, 05:23:09 pm »
Can a third party defeat election fraud and the billions of dollars of foreign money opposed to it?  Foreign money won this election,what makes you think future third part can over throw it?  billions, not millions

A "third party" (I prefer the term "second party" because the GOP and the Rats are in it together) that isn't beholding to the election theft is more likely to do something about it than the current Parties, as presently constituted.  They're all compromised now, and Trump succeeded in stripping their masks.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2021, 05:23:12 pm »
After years of haranguing about binary choices, his acolytes are going to ensure socialist control of everything.  No surprise.  We all know Trump would have done this in 2016, had Cruz won the nomination.

Exactly.   Trump's need for continued relevance requires him to continue scamming his supporters.   Those more interested in fighting back against Biden/Harris/Pelosi and their prog agenda will stick with the GOP.

It is ironic that Trump seeks to maintain his relevance by rendering his supporters irrelevant.  Third parties are vanity projects that never work.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2021, 05:29:35 pm »
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/trump-patriot-party/
REPORT: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate

    January 19, 2021 Natalie Winters

President Trump reportedly discussed forming a new political party – the Patriot Party  – after “feuding” with the Republican establishment.

The Wall Street Journal reported the following in its January 19th piece entitled “Trump Has Discussed Starting a New Political Party”:

more
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-impeachment-biden-inauguration/card/90pPMzFPqr5fMzg1Bkbs

I’m in if he does this...I’d rather he stay and push out the RINO’s and establishment I’ll...but if Trump starts a Pattiot party...I’m in. Let the GOP wither and die.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2021, 06:17:43 pm »
Neither can the GOP. We have lost. We now have nothing to lose.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2021, 06:22:33 pm »
And leave the party the despises and refuses to represent me? I'll have to think about it.

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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2021, 06:40:17 pm »
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Ross Perot was a billionaire. He failed at a third party run, split the vote, and gave it to Clinton.
Michael Bloomberg is worth 40x what Perot was. He knew a third party run was a fool’s errand and didn’t try.
The answer is taking over the GOP and remaking it America First.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2021, 06:41:31 pm »
Exactly.   Trump's need for continued relevance requires him to continue scamming his supporters.   Those more interested in fighting back against Biden/Harris/Pelosi and their prog agenda will stick with the GOP.

It is ironic that Trump seeks to maintain his relevance by rendering his supporters irrelevant.  Third parties are vanity projects that never work.

Well, as Trump cultists we’re incapable of independent thought. On a serious note, outside of Trump the GOP has done nothing to “fight back” against Biden/Harris/Pelosi...why would anyone expect anything different in the next 4 years? And if you think Trump voters are irrelevant you’re going to be in for a rude surprise in 2025 when he gives his 2nd inauguration speech.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2021, 06:46:29 pm »
START A NEW PARTY AND HAND IT OVER TO THE DEMOCRATS

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« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2021, 06:49:25 pm »
Bad idea.
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« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2021, 07:03:16 pm »
  Those more interested in fighting back against Biden/Harris/Pelosi and their prog agenda will stick with the GOP.
Yes, thank goodness we have such strong willed warriors as McConnell and Graham to lead the way in the fight against creeping Marxism.
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« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2021, 07:06:54 pm »
Yes, thank goodness we have such strong willed warriors as McConnell and Graham to lead the way in the fight against creeping Marxism.
Because the GOP has done so well to date.

The only leader willing to fight them in a meaningful way just left town.

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« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2021, 07:40:48 pm »
   The GOP has been dead to me since 2004. I've voted only once GOP~Ted Cruz/2012.  A 3rd party is the only way to go, IMHO and I have been advocating this for many years BUT if yall put Trump in charge of it, you can count me out.   /JS
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2021, 07:47:37 pm »
   The GOP has been dead to me since 2004. I've voted only once GOP~Ted Cruz/2012.  A 3rd party is the only way to go, IMHO and I have been advocating this for many years BUT if yall put Trump in charge of it, you can count me out.   /JS
My loyalty never was to the GOP nor Trump (though I'm fairly satisfied with his performance as President). It's to the principles of our Founders and the actual words of our Constitution. It's a pleasant surprise to find someone who shares that loyalty and to have a chance to cast a vote for that person. I believe Cruz does. I know of a couple of guys from my state who, unfortunately, probably won't be running for Congress.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2021, 07:48:16 pm »
   The GOP has been dead to me since 2004. I've voted only once GOP~Ted Cruz/2012.  A 3rd party is the only way to go, IMHO and I have been advocating this for many years BUT if yall put Trump in charge of it, you can count me out.   /JS

I don't think he'd be more than a figurehead with the moneybags.  That lightning rod has fulfilled its purpose.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2021, 07:52:17 pm »
My loyalty never was to the GOP nor Trump (though I'm fairly satisfied with his performance as President). It's to the principles of our Founders and the actual words of our Constitution. It's a pleasant surprise to find someone who shares that loyalty and to have a chance to cast a vote for that person. I believe Cruz does. I know of a couple of guys from my state who, unfortunately, probably won't be running for Congress.

I still think the GOP is the more practical tool to accomplish this objective...but it needs serious overhauling from the ground up.  That's why I ran for the County office that I did.  It's time I took a hand at that tiller, even if it's considered a "small" County not large enough for its own Congressional District.

But if it goes badly, then the GOP may see a County Executive of the Party take a walk.  For me, leaving the GOP is a tad more complicated than changing my voter registration.  :shrug:
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2021, 07:53:15 pm »
   The GOP has been dead to me since 2004. I've voted only once GOP~Ted Cruz/2012.  A 3rd party is the only way to go, IMHO and I have been advocating this for many years BUT if yall put Trump in charge of it, you can count me out.   /JS

I've laid out reasons before why a 3rd party will never be able to win and with the DEMS inevitably changing the election rules; you can rest assured that they will make rules to strictly retain power.

As for Trump ... just my opinion, but I think he's left the political arena behind.  I don't blame him
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2021, 07:54:55 pm »
I've laid out reasons before why a 3rd party will never be able to win and with the DEMS inevitably changing the election rules; you can rest assured that they will make rules to strictly retain power.

As for Trump ... just my opinion, but I think he's left the political arena behind.  I don't blame him

Agreed.  I hope he can walk with his head held high, and say, "My job here is done."
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2021, 07:56:41 pm »
I still think the GOP is the more practical tool to accomplish this objective...but it needs serious overhauling from the ground up.  That's why I ran for the County office that I did.  It's time I took a hand at that tiller, even if it's considered a "small" County not large enough for its own Congressional District.

But if it goes badly, then the GOP may see a County Executive of the Party take a walk.  For me, leaving the GOP is a tad more complicated than changing my voter registration.  :shrug:
I'm not leaving the GOP, but I sure want to see them straighten up and fly right. The best candidate for governor in my state in 2020 ran as a write-in. The Democrat and Republican candidates were pretty pathetic, but the best guy had no realistic shot at it, sad to say. I want to see people like him in leadership positions within the GOP.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2021, 07:56:52 pm »
Bad idea.

Good idea. All the wrong reasons.

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« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2021, 07:58:25 pm »
   The GOP has been dead to me since 2004. I've voted only once GOP~Ted Cruz/2012.  A 3rd party is the only way to go, IMHO and I have been advocating this for many years BUT if yall put Trump in charge of it, you can count me out.   /JS

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« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2021, 08:01:53 pm »
   Trump would be a GREAT ASSET to have for obvious reasons but only in an advisory role, IMHO.
   I have become somewhat more cynical these last few years, particularly politically, so I suspect we'll all sit around and talk it to death, waiting on Trump till it's to late, if the past is any indication. 
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« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2021, 08:03:01 pm »
You w/see some less-than-fervent Republicans primaried out.