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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #175 on: August 08, 2019, 05:53:09 pm »
So there it is, then.   If Trump adopts the position of the gun extremists, he loses the election.  If he rejects the position of the gun extremists, he loses the election. 

Start stockpiling supplies for that bunker, sir.
It isn't just the top of the ticket. Any congresscritter who votes for gun control better line up that lobbying job.
(You are the extremists calling for infringing a enumerated Right that Constitutionally proscribes infringement) What other Civil Rights do you want to mess with?

At least in this neck of the woods, the firearm owners voted for Trump, not Hillary. All of those 80,000,000 votes would have cinched the last go-round. Voting for the RKBA should cinch 2020. Voting against the RKBA (essentially, the Constitution) will cinch it, too, but not in his favor.
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #176 on: August 08, 2019, 05:57:12 pm »
It isn't just the top of the ticket. Any congresscritter who votes for gun control better line up that lobbying job.

As I politely explained to my Senator yesterday.
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #177 on: August 08, 2019, 06:05:44 pm »
As I politely explained to my Senator yesterday.

Go ahead, destroy conservatism for a generation, in service to your selfishness and willful disregard of the community's legitimate concerns over mass shootings. 

But engaging on the issue,  conservatives can help shape the details of laws to make sure they are efficacious and respectful of the rights of law abiding gun owners.   But if bullying is all the extremists have got,  then I'll cheer when the Courts take their rights away.     

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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #178 on: August 08, 2019, 06:09:13 pm »
Go ahead, destroy conservatism for a generation, in service to your selfishness and willful disregard of the community's legitimate concerns over mass shootings. 

But engaging on the issue,  conservatives can help shape the details of laws to make sure they are efficacious and respectful of the rights of law abiding gun owners.   But if bullying is all the extremists have got,  then I'll cheer when the Courts take their rights away.     

So, it sticks in your craw that I had an opportunity to speak with my Senator and exercised my 1st Amendment right.  Well, why not throw another Amendment under the bus?

I've seen your version of "conservatism," and I'll take a pass on it.
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #179 on: August 08, 2019, 06:09:19 pm »
Go ahead, destroy conservatism for a generation, in service to your selfishness and willful disregard of the community's legitimate concerns over mass shootings. 

But engaging on the issue,  conservatives can help shape the details of laws to make sure they are efficacious and respectful of the rights of law abiding gun owners.   But if bullying is all the extremists have got,  then I'll cheer when the Courts take their rights away.     
By being complicit in the destruction of a Constitutional Right, conservatism will have become another meaningless label.
I refuse to give up one jot or tittle of my Rights so some jackass politician can wave a label around in another fit of electoral false advertising.
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #180 on: August 08, 2019, 06:10:51 pm »
By being complicit in the destruction of a Constitutional Right, conservatism will have become another meaningless label.
I refuse to give up one jot or tittle of my Rights so some jackass politician can wave a label around in another fit of electoral false advertising.

Then suffer the consequences.   The problem is, your extremism causes harm to far more than yourself.   It is high time for the rest of us to stand up to bullying.   
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« Reply #181 on: August 08, 2019, 06:14:30 pm »
So, it sticks in your craw that I had an opportunity to speak with my Senator and exercised my 1st Amendment right.  Well, why not throw another Amendment under the bus?

I've seen your version of "conservatism," and I'll take a pass on it.

You didn't "speak to your Senator", you threatened him.   What would stick in my craw is if he capitulates to such bullying.   Responsible gun owners want the same thing most of the rest of us want -  the right to protect ourselves in the context of a system of laws that protects innocents from mass murder.   
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #182 on: August 08, 2019, 06:15:55 pm »
Then suffer the consequences.   The problem is, your extremism causes harm to far more than yourself.   It is high time for the rest of us to stand up to bullying.

We...aren't the extremists.  And the bullys are the ones like you trying to force normal people to give up a Constitutional right.

You don't get to corrupt the language like that to make the people standing up for what's right look like the bad guys.
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #183 on: August 08, 2019, 06:16:16 pm »
By being complicit in the destruction of a Constitutional Right, conservatism will have become another meaningless label.
I refuse to give up one jot or tittle of my Rights so some jackass politician can wave a label around in another fit of electoral false advertising.

Did you notice that my mere mention of the subject to my Senator meant I "bullied" a former A-10 pilot?  Well...she is about a head shorter than I....

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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #184 on: August 08, 2019, 06:17:35 pm »
You didn't "speak to your Senator", you threatened him.   What would stick in my craw is if he capitulates to such bullying.   Responsible gun owners want the same thing most of the rest of us want -  the right to protect ourselves in the context of a system of laws that protects innocents from mass murder.   

Ummm...



That's the Senator @Cyber Liberty was talking to.
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #185 on: August 08, 2019, 06:17:52 pm »
You didn't "speak to your Senator", you threatened him.   What would stick in my craw is if he capitulates to such bullying.   Responsible gun owners want the same thing most of the rest of us want -  the right to protect ourselves in the context of a system of laws that protects innocents from mass murder.   

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"Her."  It's a sad day when we cannot discuss policy with our elected representatives for fear of being accused of "bullying."
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #186 on: August 08, 2019, 06:17:54 pm »
Then suffer the consequences.   The problem is, your extremism causes harm to far more than yourself.   It is high time for the rest of us to stand up to bullying.
BULLYING? Us?

HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE US OF BULLYING YOU?

What do you call your incessant nonsensical characterization of those who only want to MAINTAIN our Constitutional Rights as "extremists"?

What do you call threats of State sponsored force against those who exercise our civil rights?

You are the extremist, here, calling for Americans to discard their birthright, willfully pissing on the graves of the milllions who have died to secure those Rights.

But go ahead, and resume your threats and insults, it's all you got.
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #187 on: August 08, 2019, 06:18:04 pm »
Did you notice that my mere mention of the subject to my Senator meant I "bullied" a former A-10 pilot?  Well...she is about a head shorter than I....



No one bullies an A-10 pilot
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #188 on: August 08, 2019, 06:20:36 pm »
Go ahead, destroy conservatism for a generation, in service to your selfishness and willful disregard of the community's legitimate concerns over mass shootings. 

But engaging on the issue,  conservatives can help shape the details of laws to make sure they are efficacious and respectful of the rights of law abiding gun owners.   But if bullying is all the extremists have got,  then I'll cheer when the Courts take their rights away.     

WTH do you care about "conservatism?"  I have yet to see a post of yours arguing a conservative position on any issue with a degree of controversy swirling around it.

The "community" is free to have as many legitimate concerns as they wish, on a whole host of issues.

However, the "community" is not authorized to interfere with natural rights.

You understand that, yes?  The rights that are endowed upon mankind by its Creator....  or put another way for those not all that keen on the concept of a "Creator," the rights that are endowed upon mankind by the nature of his humanity....

Yes, those rights....  you and the "community" have no say about them.  Not one iota.

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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #189 on: August 08, 2019, 06:22:23 pm »
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the right to protect ourselves in the context of a system of laws that protects innocents from mass murder

Lets be perfectly clear here.  There is nothing in anything you wish would happen concerning the 2nd Amendment or what any of these fascist Democrat's running for President have proposed ...that would stop mass murders from occurring.

NOTHING!

There's not a background check...insurance or registration scheme..."assault weapons" ban...you name it that would have stopped any of the mass shootings committed in the last 50 years.

You continue spitting into the wind with your desire to deny people Constitutional rights.  But make no mistake if you were to ever (God forbid) get your way...those "innocent people" you claim to care so much about...will be in more not less danger of being slaughtered than they are right now.
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #190 on: August 08, 2019, 06:22:44 pm »
No one bullies an A-10 pilot

Nosir.  When I greeted her, I did not say it's an honor to meet a Senator, I told her it's an honor to meet an A-10 pilot, and thanked her for doing it so well.
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« Reply #191 on: August 08, 2019, 06:24:29 pm »
Nosir.  When I greeted her, I did not say it's an honor to meet a Senator, I told her it's an honor to meet an A-10 pilot, and thanked her for doing it so well.

Nice!  888high58888
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #192 on: August 08, 2019, 06:26:47 pm »
We...aren't the extremists.  And the bullys are the ones like you trying to force normal people to give up a Constitutional right.

Freedom of speech is the very first amendment to the Constitution yet we put parameters around this right.  No one can yell "fire" in a theater and there are libel and slander laws "dictating" what people cannot say or write.  The Right to Assemble, also a First Amendment right, requires a permit.  And freedom of religion protected in #1 is limited on government property and public schools.

What the hell makes the 2nd amendment so damn sacrosanct that we cannot put parameters around this amendment too?

And please, spare me the "if you don't know, I can't explain it" nonsense


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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #193 on: August 08, 2019, 06:28:44 pm »
WTH do you care about "conservatism?"  I have yet to see a post of yours arguing a conservative position on any issue with a degree of controversy swirling around it.

The "community" is free to have as many legitimate concerns as they wish, on a whole host of issues.

However, the "community" is not authorized to interfere with natural rights.

You understand that, yes?  The rights that are endowed upon mankind by its Creator....  or put another way for those not all that keen on the concept of a "Creator," the rights that are endowed upon mankind by the nature of his humanity....

Yes, those rights....  you and the "community" have no say about them.  Not one iota.

I guess I need to post this again as apparently it was missed the first time around!

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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #194 on: August 08, 2019, 06:30:03 pm »
Nice!  888high58888

It's true.  Senators are nothing to me, but heroes who wear our country's uniform are special to me.  And thank you for that, Sarge.
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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #195 on: August 08, 2019, 06:32:14 pm »
I guess I need to post this again as apparently it was missed the first time around!



"Ignored" != "Missed."
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« Reply #196 on: August 08, 2019, 06:37:34 pm »
Freedom of speech is the very first amendment to the Constitution yet we put parameters around this right.  No one can yell "fire" in a theater and there are libel and slander laws "dictating" what people cannot say or write.  The Right to Assemble, also a First Amendment right, requires a permit.  And freedom of religion protected in #1 is limited on government property and public schools.

What the hell makes the 2nd amendment so damn sacrosanct that we cannot put parameters around this amendment too?

And please, spare me the "if you don't know, I can't explain it  :bs: "


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It's very simple.  Without the 2nd Amendment there is no 1st Amendment...there is no Bill of Rights.  It literally protects all the others from being tossed away like an old rag by all of these hard left Progressives running amok in today's society.

The 2nd Amendment prevents tyranny. The 80 million gun owners in this country and their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is what stands between our nation being a Representative Republic...and the old USSR writ large in the 21st Century by Progressives like Hillary...Sanders and their ilk.
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« Reply #197 on: August 08, 2019, 06:40:11 pm »
It's true.  Senators are nothing to me, but heroes who wear our country's uniform are special to me.  And thank you for that, Sarge.

No thanks needed my friend.  It's an honor to be able to do it.
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« Reply #198 on: August 08, 2019, 06:40:37 pm »
It's very simple.  Without the 2nd Amendment there is no 1st Amendment...there is no Bill of Rights.  It literally protects all the others from being tossed away like an old rag by all of these hard left Progressives running amok in today's society.

The 2nd Amendment prevents tyranny.

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Re: Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control
« Reply #199 on: August 08, 2019, 06:45:28 pm »
It's very simple.  Without the 2nd Amendment there is no 1st Amendment...there is no Bill of Rights. 

If this was the truth, the Founders would have made the right to bear arms the first amendment to the Constitution.

Please stop making up crap to suit your gun fixation.