Why Hasn’t Trump Folded?

[edpc]

@Quix
@Sanguine
@mystery-ak
@HoustonSam
@Bigun
@Chosen Daughter
@LegalAmerican 
I have noticed that your zingers are typically based on "spinning" the statements of others to make them sound really bad.  On this very thread, in Post #108, for example, you lifted one of @LegalAmerican’s positive but properly narrow comments about Trump (in her post #81) out of context and spun that comment to mock her with pretty savage accusations of monumental idolatry. 

Now, in your post to me, you have pointedly insinuated that I am stupid--and you have tried to justify that nasty zinger by saying that I have stupidly "questioned" the patriotism of other conservatives.  Well, that zinger might make a few casual lurkers on this thread think that I must be a monster indeed, but your charge is bogus.

Those who go to the trouble of re-reading my post will quickly notice that I was being more thoughtful than you are willing to be.  What I said is that I believe our POTUS is actually a stronger patriot than a lot of TBR members.  I will not backtrack on that, nor will I soften my comment.  I will even double down by asserting that your knee-jerk charge against me is not careful enough to be honest (or, perhaps, not honest enough to be careful).

Let me elaborate on my counter-complaint:  I don't presuppose that you are stupid, much less call you stupid.  (I think I actually have somewhat more self-restraint than you have with your own “poison pen.”)    I prefer to assume that you are actually smart enough to realize that there are different degrees of patriotism.  However, it would appear that you aren’t honest enough to acknowledge that simple premise in our public forum.  (Sorry about my bluntness, but I am just to trying to be honest in expressing my concern that you aren’t a carefully honest debater.  Fair enough?) 

Ad hominem attacks, such as yours, are just designed to deflect criticism, even when it is well-deserved criticism (or, perhaps, especially when the criticism is well-deserved).  The funny thing is, I made a completely reasonable comment about patriotism, and you decided to come histrionically unglued.  Pardon me for believing that you are just trying to fool lurkers into thinking I am a really bad guy and you’re America’s finest patriot. 

***

Heck, Radioguy, it's patently obvious that there are different degrees of patriotism, and that is what I was talking about.   It’s also axiomatic that TBR’s members will range all over the spectrum of patriotism (even if most will surely be in the top half).   

Even America's population of military personnel displays considerable variability in this regard, and you certainly cannot use your active-duty military status to immunize yourself against public concerns about your bad-mouthing attitude toward your own Commander-in-Chief and toward anyone who does respect what our President is trying to do for America.

(As an interesting aside, I was planning to join the US Navy Reserve as a Lieutenant Commander until Obama became President.  I was convinced that he was an illegal Commander-in-Chief, and I did not want the UCMJ regs to stand in my way of complaining vigorously against the Usurper.  Now, I wonder why you think it’s not very unseemly or even legally dangerous to mouth off so much about President Trump.  It occurs to me that you may be committing court martial offenses that you have lightly, thoughtlessly dismissed, Patriot.

Just sayin.’  I am not a JAG officer bent on hassling you, and I don’t know the UCMJ precedents that might apply in a situation like yours;  besides, I would never turn you in anyway.  But I submit that you are being unseemly in the way you scoff at Trump and Trumpers.  This simply doesn’t add up right to my satisfaction—even if I believe you love America to some meaningful degree.  The military guys and gals whom I happen to know keep their traps carefully shut when they don’t like a POTUS or his policies.) 

***

Anyway, your claim that I am surely stupid (not to mention terribly hypocritical) in suggesting that some TBR members fall noticeably short of Trump’s patriotism is ridiculous.  Your vitriolic complaint against my completely reasonable observation is just smug, ad hominem trash.  You deliberately glossed over what I actually said to try to smear me.  (Hmmm….Where have we seen that stratagem before?  CNN?  MSNBC?  Mainstream reportage all over the country?)

Lurkers, please keep reading. 
 
Perhaps you should notice from all of this discussion that I am not trying to woo you to my position.  I have better things to do.  (I considered offering this serious but constructive criticism only in a PM to you, but I decided that a calm, public airing of the nastiness on this thread would be important for supporting my overall claim that the most zealous critics of Trump have gone off the beam of reasonableness--even if some pro-Trump guys and gals might have done so, too, on occasion.)

The truth is that our inarguably flawed POTUS is spectacularly patriotic in defense of America.  He is likely in the top 0.01 percentile of nationally prominent politicians in that specific regard—even if he is nowhere near that percentile ranking for moral character.   President Trump has been willing to step through a political minefield that could literally get him murdered.   

My point here is that Trump is not another example of politics-as-usual.  We are in a slash-and-burn war right now—90% of which is being waged out of sight, mainly by U.S. military intelligence at this time.  Right now, we have a kind of slash-and-burn POTUS as Commander-in-Chief who is actually doing a fairly good job against horrible odds.   (According to a pretty credible report, Trump was recruited by high-ranking members of the U.S. military to run for POTUS all the way back in 2015.  The military leaders supposedly appealed in desperation to Trump's patriotism--and their revelations of deadly, seditious corruptions in America's government shocked Trump into a radical change in his lavishly naïve, raunchy billionaire's worldview.  As soon as he ran for the White House, 88 Flag-level officers endorsed him in particular.  They manifestly did not want someone like Ted Cruz.  They wanted someone like George Patton.)

The most stubborn NeverTrumpers on TBR and in the GOPe have never been willing to acknowledge how courageously Trump is performing a crucial but often thankless role for rescuing America from unmitigated disaster, from the complete destruction of our beloved nation.  Today’s worst NeverTrumpers are just harpies (that’s the harshest word I dare to use) who flatly refuse to respect their own President for what he is doing for America right now.  Those same too-ardent NeverTrumpers counter-productively snipe at Trump whenever they can--mainly bringing up all of his peccadillos (and lies!) from his embarrassing past--rather than following a more positive, more  fervently patriotic approach of supporting our President whenever they can right now. 

The point I have repeatedly made on this forum is that I would prefer to have a better, more conspicuously moral gentleman in the White House, but our Creator nixed that for reasons of His Own.  I am forced to assume that He has a wiser plan for answering our serious prayers that He would save our Republic.  Maybe Trump (not Cruz, for example) is actually the best guy for the dirty and often thankless job of draining the Swamp.

No spiritually thoughtful person would regard Trump as America’s Messiah, but a spiritually thoughtful person should never second-guess the Providence of God—even when that Providence is inarguably strange (as it certainly has been for several decades).  In my own case, when God in His Providence overruled my prayers, taking America in a direction that I initially found appalling, I repented of my complaining—recalling the Scriptures that remind us that God is oddly in control of everything in the Universe.

Remembering that, I chilled out--as I always do, eventually.  I am perfectly happy to have God in ultimately full control of a spiritual war--and to take my marching orders from the Scriptures.  (That set-up is the root of my patriotism.)

Notice from the above paragraph that I am ultimately saying that the highest level of American patriotism, yet to be achieved by some TBR members, unfortunately, is loyalty to God, supreme loyalty to King Jesus.  Considering the fact God has given us an extraordinarily wonderful Constitution and now has given us a flawed but serious POTUS who is evidently on our side to reassert that blessed Constitutional government in the War Against the Deep State, I believe King Jesus demands that we act accordingly--i.e., expecting good things from God even through a high-profile sinner like Trump.

I have plenty of Biblical support for that position.   

Attacking me?  Like you calling me stupid and suggesting that I am supposedly just insulting TBR's lovely, flawlessly patriotic conservatives? 

My goodness, I don't wonder why people attack me.  I know why they do.  (Hint:  I'm not stupid. [LOL])

LOL again.  You are complaining about my comment that a lot of TBR members really are nasty, thoughtless jerks.  Of course, I was correct, as our Moderators would quickly agree.  But I have made a serious effort never to respond as nastily and thoughtlessly as those who have slammed me.  (I'm not perfect, but I would point out that I even got along pretty well with my friend INVAR when he occasionally became incensed at me for daring to forgive Trump for all of his sins!  [Full disclosure:  I'm a Dan Bongino fan.  I think he's the best guy on the radio.  And I love his meme about Trump's lewd history and present political crassness--#IDontCare.)

Could you elaborate on this?

[bigheadfred]

[DCPatriot]

Could you elaborate on this?

Don't quit your day job.

That was such a spectacular post that I saved it as a Word Document before it's 'Stassied'.

@the_doc

Thank you, sir.   

[bigheadfred]

[Smokin Joe]

I doubt anyone under 50 caught that reference. Me, I've been working on millennials to check out Blazing Saddles.

I showed it to a handful about 20 years ago, and they were mortified at the racial references in the movie.
Sigh. By the time it got to phoney baloney jobs, they were tuned out.

However they found Rocky Horror Picture Show to be a great show (their pick, not mine).

Subsequent generations have been programmed to respond differently to stimuli we might find amusing, and it seems you just can't do stand-up nowadays without either hatin' on whitey or using the F word a lot--which frankly doesn't amuse me. Jeff Dunham is about the funniest guy I have seen in a decade.

[aligncare]

@the_doc I’m with you on Dan Bongino. He’s fast becoming my favorite, too. He possesses a sharp, quick mind. There are no lefty equivalents to a Dan Bongino or a Mark Levin, for that matter. ....or Hannity ...or Rush ...or Prager ...or Steyn ...etc, etc, etc.....

Conservative talkers rule! 

[Sanguine]

@the_doc I’m with you on Dan Bongino. He’s fast becoming my favorite, too. He possesses a sharp, quick mind. There are no lefty equivalents to a Dan Bongino or a Mark Levin, for that matter. ....or Hannity ...or Rush ...or Prager ...or Steyn ...etc, etc, etc.....

Conservative talkers rule! 

I really like Bongino too.  I listen to his podcast whenever I can.

[libertybele]

@the_doc I’m with you on Dan Bongino. He’s fast becoming my favorite, too. He possesses a sharp, quick mind. There are no lefty equivalents to a Dan Bongino or a Mark Levin, for that matter. ....or Hannity ...or Rush ...or Prager ...or Steyn ...etc, etc, etc.....

Conservative talkers rule! 

Indeed.  I like Bongino and Levin ... and Beck for that matter. 

[mountaineer]

Never had an opportunity to hear Bongino, but enjoy his tweets.

[Quix]

@edpc, @the_doc et al,

Not sure what you'd most like comment on so I'll just blather off the top of my head and see what you get.

1. imho, PRESIDENT TRUMP will go down in history as the greatest, most patriotic, most honest, most productive, most honorable, most effective, most redemptive President in history and more so than any other group of 10 Presidents combined. Further, that he saved the Republic from utter scheduled total destruction and massive depopulation.

2. He has been flawed & remains flawed. However, I believe Mark Taylor's sources--some of whom pray weekly with POTUS and INSIST that POTUS has had a genuine born again Salvation experience with The Lord Jesus The Christ and earnestly seeks to walk the talk. Further that he genuinely wants to go down in history as the MOST PRAYING of all the Presidents.

3. He is fiercely interested in protecting Christian liberties and moves toward such as he can.

4. He is seriously working hard to follow-up his Dec 2017 Executive Order by moving massive amounts of resources to arrest child and other human traffickers & sex abusers & organ harvesters & those who enslave illegals IN THIS USA CURRENTLY. Further, that he is working to confiscate incredible wealth by folks who have committed those and other horrific treasonous crimes against the USA and against humanity. Further to confiscate wealth corruptly gained by politicos from the public trough. Further, to clean house on the corrupt treasonous media, major corps, academia, the DOJ, the FBI etc. etc. etc. I think folks are far too glib about underestimating the size of such tasks as well as underestimating TRUMP'S capacity and tenacious willingness to see such tasks through.

5. As a psychologist, who IS VERY WELL CAPABLE of forming accurate conclusions from incomplete data, folks who label TRUMP various sorts of crazy, incompetent, this or that character disorder etc. etc. etc.--such folks are so saturated with Kool-Aid and/or outrageous bias that I don't think they have any more capacity to read the DSM V accurately regarding Trump. As my profs taught me, Trump could not have succeeded as much as he did BEFORE he became President if he were THAT pathologically flawed. All the more so since becoming President.

6. They are also not picking up well on the nuances between POTUS and FLOTUS.

7. POTUS REALLY IS a student of Sun Tzu and a master at applying said teachings. People continually underestimate him on such scores to their own hurt.

8. One flaw I'd like to see him take to The Lord is to avoid vengeance. THAT IS GOD'S TURF. However, there are times when God directs THE LEADERS HE HAS CHOSEN--to take GOD'S vengeance out on evildoers. More power to Trump on those scores.

9. I do believe we are wise to pray earnestly daily for Trump, his wisdom, humility, safety, effectiveness etc. and ditto for the Q-Team.

10. I do believe that God is anointing Trump supernaturally with Godly insights, discernment and wisdom.

11. I'm totally convinced that a LOT of people WILL be doing perp walks; successfully tried and sentenced to serious prison terms and some to military tribunals and even execution . . . including Shrillery, OThuga, etc.  Schiff-for-Brains, Maxine Monster-Mouth Maxipad, UnFineSwinestein, etc. etc. will also likely face serious prison terms for corruption, treason, child sex abuse etc.

12. People who work significantly against TRUMP--depending on various factors--will likely face God's judgment in the present according to God's priorities and timing.

13. A LOT of the folks throwing rocks at TRUMP ARE FAR WORSE in their own personal lives & walks with God. God is NOT amused about that.

14. The 16 year plan to utterly destroy the USA was real. Shrillery really was gleefully looking forward to fulfilling her globalist script to destroy the Constitution--particularly the 1st & 2nd amendments; stack the Supreme Court with globalist shills; further destroy the economy & the middle class; close churches & turn them into mosques & satanic churches; and her 2nd 4 years literally start WW3 to literally reduce the USA to ashes and a LOT smaller population. Yes, she IS that evil.

15. I forget what else I'd typed that got zapped. If I missed commenting on something you want my blathering opinion on, please let me know.

Blessings,

@Quix
@Sanguine
@mystery-ak
@HoustonSam
@Bigun
@Chosen Daughter
@LegalAmerican 
I have noticed that your zingers are typically based on "spinning" the statements of others to make them sound really bad.  On this very thread, in Post #108, for example, you lifted one of @LegalAmerican’s positive but properly narrow comments about Trump (in her post #81) out of context and spun that comment to mock her with pretty savage accusations of monumental idolatry. 

Now, in your post to me, you have pointedly insinuated that I am stupid--and you have tried to justify that nasty zinger by saying that I have stupidly "questioned" the patriotism of other conservatives.  Well, that zinger might make a few casual lurkers on this thread think that I must be a monster indeed, but your charge is bogus.

Those who go to the trouble of re-reading my post will quickly notice that I was being more thoughtful than you are willing to be.  What I said is that I believe our POTUS is actually a stronger patriot than a lot of TBR members.  I will not backtrack on that, nor will I soften my comment.  I will even double down by asserting that your knee-jerk charge against me is not careful enough to be honest (or, perhaps, not honest enough to be careful).

Let me elaborate on my counter-complaint:  I don't presuppose that you are stupid, much less call you stupid.  (I think I actually have somewhat more self-restraint than you have with your own “poison pen.”)    I prefer to assume that you are actually smart enough to realize that there are different degrees of patriotism.  However, it would appear that you aren’t honest enough to acknowledge that simple premise in our public forum.  (Sorry about my bluntness, but I am just to trying to be honest in expressing my concern that you aren’t a carefully honest debater.  Fair enough?) 

Ad hominem attacks, such as yours, are just designed to deflect criticism, even when it is well-deserved criticism (or, perhaps, especially when the criticism is well-deserved).  The funny thing is, I made a completely reasonable comment about patriotism, and you decided to come histrionically unglued.  Pardon me for believing that you are just trying to fool lurkers into thinking I am a really bad guy and you’re America’s finest patriot. 

***

Heck, Radioguy, it's patently obvious that there are different degrees of patriotism, and that is what I was talking about.   It’s also axiomatic that TBR’s members will range all over the spectrum of patriotism (even if most will surely be in the top half).   

Even America's population of military personnel displays considerable variability in this regard, and you certainly cannot use your active-duty military status to immunize yourself against public concerns about your bad-mouthing attitude toward your own Commander-in-Chief and toward anyone who does respect what our President is trying to do for America.

(As an interesting aside, I was planning to join the US Navy Reserve as a Lieutenant Commander until Obama became President.  I was convinced that he was an illegal Commander-in-Chief, and I did not want the UCMJ regs to stand in my way of complaining vigorously against the Usurper.  Now, I wonder why you think it’s not very unseemly or even legally dangerous to mouth off so much about President Trump.  It occurs to me that you may be committing court martial offenses that you have lightly, thoughtlessly dismissed, Patriot.

Just sayin.’  I am not a JAG officer bent on hassling you, and I don’t know the UCMJ precedents that might apply in a situation like yours;  besides, I would never turn you in anyway.  But I submit that you are being unseemly in the way you scoff at Trump and Trumpers.  This simply doesn’t add up right to my satisfaction—even if I believe you love America to some meaningful degree.  The military guys and gals whom I happen to know keep their traps carefully shut when they don’t like a POTUS or his policies.) 

***

Anyway, your claim that I am surely stupid (not to mention terribly hypocritical) in suggesting that some TBR members fall noticeably short of Trump’s patriotism is ridiculous.  Your vitriolic complaint against my completely reasonable observation is just smug, ad hominem trash.  You deliberately glossed over what I actually said to try to smear me.  (Hmmm….Where have we seen that stratagem before?  CNN?  MSNBC?  Mainstream reportage all over the country?)

Lurkers, please keep reading. 
 
Perhaps you should notice from all of this discussion that I am not trying to woo you to my position.  I have better things to do.  (I considered offering this serious but constructive criticism only in a PM to you, but I decided that a calm, public airing of the nastiness on this thread would be important for supporting my overall claim that the most zealous critics of Trump have gone off the beam of reasonableness--even if some pro-Trump guys and gals might have done so, too, on occasion.)

The truth is that our inarguably flawed POTUS is spectacularly patriotic in defense of America.  He is likely in the top 0.01 percentile of nationally prominent politicians in that specific regard—even if he is nowhere near that percentile ranking for moral character.   President Trump has been willing to step through a political minefield that could literally get him murdered.   

My point here is that Trump is not another example of politics-as-usual.  We are in a slash-and-burn war right now—90% of which is being waged out of sight, mainly by U.S. military intelligence at this time.  Right now, we have a kind of slash-and-burn POTUS as Commander-in-Chief who is actually doing a fairly good job against horrible odds.   (According to a pretty credible report, Trump was recruited by high-ranking members of the U.S. military to run for POTUS all the way back in 2015.  The military leaders supposedly appealed in desperation to Trump's patriotism--and their revelations of deadly, seditious corruptions in America's government shocked Trump into a radical change in his lavishly naïve, raunchy billionaire's worldview.  As soon as he ran for the White House, 88 Flag-level officers endorsed him in particular.  They manifestly did not want someone like Ted Cruz.  They wanted someone like George Patton.)

The most stubborn NeverTrumpers on TBR and in the GOPe have never been willing to acknowledge how courageously Trump is performing a crucial but often thankless role for rescuing America from unmitigated disaster, from the complete destruction of our beloved nation.  Today’s worst NeverTrumpers are just harpies (that’s the harshest word I dare to use) who flatly refuse to respect their own President for what he is doing for America right now.  Those same too-ardent NeverTrumpers counter-productively snipe at Trump whenever they can--mainly bringing up all of his peccadillos (and lies!) from his embarrassing past--rather than following a more positive, more  fervently patriotic approach of supporting our President whenever they can right now. 

The point I have repeatedly made on this forum is that I would prefer to have a better, more conspicuously moral gentleman in the White House, but our Creator nixed that for reasons of His Own.  I am forced to assume that He has a wiser plan for answering our serious prayers that He would save our Republic.  Maybe Trump (not Cruz, for example) is actually the best guy for the dirty and often thankless job of draining the Swamp.

No spiritually thoughtful person would regard Trump as America’s Messiah, but a spiritually thoughtful person should never second-guess the Providence of God—even when that Providence is inarguably strange (as it certainly has been for several decades).  In my own case, when God in His Providence overruled my prayers, taking America in a direction that I initially found appalling, I repented of my complaining—recalling the Scriptures that remind us that God is oddly in control of everything in the Universe.

Remembering that, I chilled out--as I always do, eventually.  I am perfectly happy to have God in ultimately full control of a spiritual war--and to take my marching orders from the Scriptures.  (That set-up is the root of my patriotism.)

Notice from the above paragraph that I am ultimately saying that the highest level of American patriotism, yet to be achieved by some TBR members, unfortunately, is loyalty to God, supreme loyalty to King Jesus.  Considering the fact God has given us an extraordinarily wonderful Constitution and now has given us a flawed but serious POTUS who is evidently on our side to reassert that blessed Constitutional government in the War Against the Deep State, I believe King Jesus demands that we act accordingly--i.e., expecting good things from God even through a high-profile sinner like Trump.

I have plenty of Biblical support for that position.   

Attacking me?  Like you calling me stupid and suggesting that I am supposedly just insulting TBR's lovely, flawlessly patriotic conservatives? 

My goodness, I don't wonder why people attack me.  I know why they do.  (Hint:  I'm not stupid. [LOL])

LOL again.  You are complaining about my comment that a lot of TBR members really are nasty, thoughtless jerks.  Of course, I was correct, as our Moderators would quickly agree.  But I have made a serious effort never to respond as nastily and thoughtlessly as those who have slammed me.  (I'm not perfect, but I would point out that I even got along pretty well with my friend INVAR when he occasionally became incensed at me for daring to forgive Trump for all of his sins!  [Full disclosure:  I'm a Dan Bongino fan.  I think he's the best guy on the radio.  And I love his meme about Trump's lewd history and present political crassness--#IDontCare.)

[roamer_1]

The most stubborn NeverTrumpers on TBR and in the GOPe have never been willing to acknowledge how courageously Trump is performing a crucial but often thankless role for rescuing America from unmitigated disaster, from the complete destruction of our beloved nation.  Today’s worst NeverTrumpers are just harpies (that’s the harshest word I dare to use) who flatly refuse to respect their own President for what he is doing for America right now.  Those same too-ardent NeverTrumpers counter-productively snipe at Trump whenever they can--mainly bringing up all of his peccadillos (and lies!) from his embarrassing past--rather than following a more positive, more  fervently patriotic approach of supporting our President whenever they can right now. 

Notice from the above paragraph that I am ultimately saying that the highest level of
American patriotism, yet to be achieved by some TBR members, unfortunately, is loyalty to God, supreme loyalty to King Jesus.  Considering the fact God has given us an extraordinarily wonderful Constitution and now has given us a flawed but serious POTUS who is evidently on our side to reassert that blessed Constitutional government in the War Against the Deep State, I believe King Jesus demands that we act accordingly--i.e., expecting good things from God even through a high-profile sinner like Trump.

What a pompous load of unmitigated crap.

[libertybele]

What a pompous load of unmitigated crap.

Thanks for your assessment; some of these posts are way too loooooooong for my reading enjoyment.

[Sanguine]

Never had an opportunity to hear Bongino, but enjoy his tweets.

If you're interested, his podcasts are available at:  https://bongino.com/

[Emjay]

@the_doc I’m with you on Dan Bongino. He’s fast becoming my favorite, too. He possesses a sharp, quick mind. There are no lefty equivalents to a Dan Bongino or a Mark Levin, for that matter. ....or Hannity ...or Rush ...or Prager ...or Steyn ...etc, etc, etc.....

Conservative talkers rule! 

I really like Dan Bongino also.

[Emjay]

Thanks for your assessment; some of these posts are way too loooooooong for my reading enjoyment.

I would not call it a pompous load of unmitigated crap.  I would reserve that description for some other posters.

However, I'm not gonna read a book here.  People need to be able to express themselves in 4 or 5 paragraphs at the most.

[Emjay]

I showed it to a handful about 20 years ago, and they were mortified at the racial references in the movie.
Sigh. By the time it got to phoney baloney jobs, they were tuned out.

However they found Rocky Horror Picture Show to be a great show (their pick, not mine).

Subsequent generations have been programmed to respond differently to stimuli we might find amusing, and it seems you just can't do stand-up nowadays without either hatin' on whitey or using the F word a lot--which frankly doesn't amuse me. Jeff Dunham is about the funniest guy I have seen in a decade.

I couldn't make it through either movie.

[Emjay]

I like Tylenol OK, as long as they mix it with some Hydrocodone.

Ha, ha.  My doctor here in Kihei stopped prescribing any types of painkillers, even Valium.

He sent out a letter to all his patients proclaiming this, so they could change doctors if they couldn't live with that.

His problem was that some pain-killing addicted patients were getting very belligerent to the point of following him to the parking lot if he refused to prescribe what they wanted.

[Emjay]

Don't quit your day job.

That was such a spectacular post that I saved it as a Word Document before it's 'Stassied'.

@the_doc

Thank you, sir.   

Yep @the_doc  ... way too long but a good post.

[aligncare]

@Quix  awesome posting. I liked that you succinctly hit all the major salient points at issue regarding the man Donald as well as the President Trump.

I especially liked point 5 where you addressed the dishonest and dishonorable attempts to paint Donald Trump as someone crazy, unbalanced or ignorant. On its face, a ludicrous claim.

I think some of that criticism however, stems from the fact that billionaires are a different breed of man (and woman) than either you or I – or than even, plain old millionaires are. They spend all their time focused on work and they thrive on problem solving. They derive pleasure from challenges that would perplex and tire others. These are folks who are bored when they are not 110 percent on the job and working hard.

Honestly, I do not possess this desire to pursue and accumulate greater and greater wealth, as these folks do. Too much commitment and work involved, thank you very much.

[Hoodat]

9. I do believe we are wise to pray earnestly daily for Trump, his wisdom, humility, safety, effectiveness etc.

Ditto.

[DB]

I am jacking BIG C... over 4k a day... very serious anti-inflammatory action going on... serious mucous reduction... In high doses is anti-fungal, anti-bacterial. anti-cancer.

Research and consult doctor and natural food sources... more than one kind... options.

But since my arthritic condition is mainly inflammatory, it works great for me.

Have you tried lypo-spheric vitamin C?

https://www.livonlabs.com/lypo-spheric-vitamin-c/

Much higher absorption without messing up the gut or stomach.

[Quix]

@Quix  awesome posting. I liked that you succinctly hit all the major salient points at issue regarding the man Donald as well as the President Trump.

I especially liked point 5 where you addressed the dishonest and dishonorable attempts to paint Donald Trump as someone crazy, unbalanced or ignorant. On its face, a ludicrous claim.

I think some of that criticism however, stems from the fact that billionaires are a different breed of man (and woman) than either you or I – or than even, plain old millionaires are. They spend all their time focused on work and they thrive on problem solving. They derive pleasure from challenges that would perplex and tire others. These are folks who are bored when they are not 110 percent on the job and working hard.

Honestly, I do not possess this desire to pursue and accumulate greater and greater wealth, as these folks do. Too much commitment and work involved, thank you very much.

AGREED.

Thanks for your kind words. I'm thrilled that he ENJOYS his work so much. I suspect he will age a LOT LESS than typical in the job. He relishes the challenges and deals with them incredibly effectively.

Thanks for your insights. Agree.

[roamer_1]

Have you tried lypo-spheric vitamin C?

https://www.livonlabs.com/lypo-spheric-vitamin-c/

Much higher absorption without messing up the gut or stomach.

@DB
Not yet... I am using up all the oddball packets I have laying around till I get with my doc. I am heading for above 20k mg a day, and maybe a lot more than that for a while... But considering that I have a propensity to throw kidney stones... It has to be monitored pretty close.

[mountaineer]

Ha, ha.  My doctor here in Kihei stopped prescribing any types of painkillers, even Valium.

He sent out a letter to all his patients proclaiming this, so they could change doctors if they couldn't live with that.

His problem was that some pain-killing addicted patients were getting very belligerent to the point of following him to the parking lot if he refused to prescribe what they wanted.

Wow, what a sad state of affairs. My primary care dr. is very conservative regarding prescribing pain meds, thank goodness. He also has a sign up in the waiting room to the effect of, "Don't even think of asking us for a medical marijuana prescription."

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Could you elaborate on this?

Perfect response.