More millennials are moving back home - and it's making everyone depressed:

[RoosGirl]

They might be if they were making enough money to not qualify for food stamps.

Get the bleep out of town.  They're thinking about getting stoned at the next party, getting laid at the next party and how when they grow up they're going to be rap stars or pro football players.

[mountaineer]

Sorry. Not feeling it with that example. That's a starting job. A beginning. A foot in the door to the real world. If they don't want to work for $9 an hour at Walmart they better develop some skills either from that job to move up or do something else.

Maybe we all should compare notes. My first job paid around $1.60 per hour. I certainly did not expect to be able to buy a car, house and retirement plan with entry-level income - which is why I went on to become educated and gain other job skills.

[Dexter]

Start with education

50-100k in debt at least unless your life goals involve fixing air conditioners or welding.

that will lead to that career and that level of income

You hope. And yeah, a lot of people make bad choices with their degrees. Too bad they don't have more common sense than that.

[Dexter]

Typical 18 year olds are worried about paying for illegal Adderall and/or Ritalin.

Yeah because they're trying to balance a full time job and college.

[mountaineer]

50-100k in debt at least unless your life goals involve fixing air conditioners or welding.

You hope. And yeah, a lot of people make bad choices with their degrees. Too bad they don't have more common sense than that.

Please don't tell me you look down on air conditioning repairmen and welders. Sounds like a pretty good goal to me.

 For the record, I made a bad choice with my undergraduate degree, as far as my career path goes, but that didn't stop me from getting a graduate degree that I could use (total student loan debt, $6,000) to make a decent living.

[goodwithagun]

Yeah because they're trying to balance a full time job and college.

No, because they want the feel goods. I, and many before me and the invention of prescription meth, blanched both. Again, I’m tail end GenX so I know. Generations before me balanced a hell of a lot more responsibility with a hell of a lot less money and excuses.

Again, quit being so negative. We can make it. Just quit bailing out stupid people.

[goodwithagun]

50-100k in debt at least unless your life goals involve fixing air conditioners or welding.

You hope. And yeah, a lot of people make bad choices with their degrees. Too bad they don't have more common sense than that.

You can get your welding certs for free at our local community college and if you can also pass a piss test, you can start welding in the oil and gas industry for $90/hour.

[RoosGirl]

Yeah because they're trying to balance a full time job and college.

Oh FFS.  Here comes the pitch for "free" college.

[DB]

Who the hell can afford a car at 18? That's why, at that age as they toil at Walmart (and it's not slavery, by the way), they should be considering where they want to go and what they might do with their lives that might provide them the things they want. Start with education that will lead to that career and that level of income, whether trade school or college.

My parents bought me an 18 year old VW bug for my first car in around 1978. It had no A/C. No automatic transmission. No power steering. No power brakes. No disc brakes, No power anything. Not even a gas gauge. It had an AM radio and a lever on the metal dash board to go to the reserve fuel tank when you ran out of gas on the primary tank. It had a measuring stick you stuck in the gas tank to see how much was in it if you wanted to know. It had a 6 V battery which gave you dull orange glow out front for headlights. It didn't even have seat belts.

And I was grateful for it.

[Dexter]

Sounds like a pretty good goal to me.

Not for everybody, or even most people.

For the record, I made a bad choice with my undergraduate degree, as far as my career path goes, but that didn't stop me from getting a graduate degree that I could use (total student loan debt, $6,000) to make a decent living.

I'm glad everything worked out for well for you.

[mountaineer]

Being grateful - even for a stripped-down VW - is better than boo-hooing over the things you can't afford! 

[mountaineer]

I'm glad everything worked out for well for you.

[Dexter]

Oh FFS.  Here comes the pitch for "free" college.

If any of you that are well off were true nationalists you would be happy to give some of what you have earned in your life to see young Americans get educated and get a head start. Anti-globalism isn't going to work out well for us if all of our people are uneducated and poor.

[goodwithagun]

American exceptionalism is about freedom, rugged individuality, and optimism. All the bitching about what some don’t have but others do is the opposite of how our nation was founded. If millennials aren’t up to it, the generation I’m raising will be.

[goodwithagun]

If any of you that are well off were true nationalists you would be happy to give some of what you have earned in your life to see young Americans get educated and get a head start. Anti-globalism isn't going to work out well for us if all of our people are uneducated and poor.

Aaaaaaand there it is.

[mountaineer]

Aaaaaaand there it is.

[goodwithagun]

Instead of freedom, rugged individualism, and optimism, let’s just make everything free. Yeah, that’ll work 

[goodwithagun]

No matter how many truth dumps we take on him, he just doesn’t get it. Only a year in Venezuela will do the trick . . . if he survives.

[Dexter]

Instead of freedom, rugged individualism, and optimism, let’s just make everything free. Yeah, that’ll work 

Let's stop wasting so much money on stupid shit so we can prioritize things that will actually put the United States ahead of the rest of the world.

[mystery-ak]

Aaaaaaand there it is.

It took awhile but there it is..lol

[DB]

If any of you that are well off were true nationalists you would be happy to give some of what you have earned in your life to see young Americans get educated and get a head start. Anti-globalism isn't going to work out well for us if all of our people are uneducated and poor.

It is government intervention into college student funding that has caused tuition costs to go through the roof. When access to money becomes easier the price of things go up to match because you can "afford it". That is what caused the real estate melt down around 2007. If you really mean what you say, get government out of education and out of student loans. Then college would become more affordable. Colleges wouldn't have a choice if they want to stay in business.

[goodwithagun]

Let's stop wasting so much money on stupid shit so we can prioritize things that will actually put the United States ahead of the rest of the world.

Freedom, rugged individualism, and optimism, what you call, stupid shit, IS what put the US ahead of the rest of the world.

For your next party trick, can you tell us how Osama Bin Ladin was just a freedom fighter not unlike the Founding Fathers? 

[Dexter]

Do you think if we removed the entire cost of having a military presence in Europe and other forms of international charity it could create enough room for the cost of helping young people get educated?

[goodwithagun]

Do you think if we removed the entire cost of having a military presence in Europe and other forms of international charity it could create enough room for the cost of helping young people get educated?

Both need to go. Next question?

[Dexter]

Both need to go. Next question?

The government isn't going to stop taking your money. We can at least fight for that money to not be spent on stupid things.