"Democrats 'cannot be civil' with Republicans anymore" - Hillary Clinton

[Emjay]

Are we?

I'm no longer that trusting.



Clearly the last year and months have demonstrated that the amount of hostility to core principles, religion and morality is not limited to radical Leftists.  If anything, it has been illustrated that people like me are a common enemy of both the radical left and the Trumplican 'right'.

Don't be so dramatic @INVAR .  You can be annoying but you're certainly not my enemy.  I wish you weren't so dismissive of other people's virtue while touting your own.  I wish you weren't so consistently downbeat.  But I sure don't hate you.

[mountaineer]

ERIC HOLDER: When Republicans Go Low, ‘We Kick Them’ …Crowd Chants, “Fight! Fight! Fight!” (VIDEO)
by Cristina Laila
 October 10, 2018

The corrupt former Attorney General from the Obama admin, Eric Holder called for violence against Republicans over the weekend during a campaign appearance in Georgia.

“They have used the power that they have gotten for all the wrong things. They want to keep themselves in power. It is time for us as Democrats to be as tough as they are, to be as dedicated as they are, to be as committed as they are,” Holder said.

“Michelle Obama always says…when they go low, we go high. NO! When they go low, we kick them,” Eric Holder said as the audience laughed, cheered and clapped.  The crowd broke into chants of “fight! fight! fight!” after Eric Holder called for Republicans to be “kicked.”

“That’s what this new Democratic Party is about. We’re proud as hell to be Democrats. We’re going to fight for the ideals of the Democratic Party,” Eric Holder said.  ... More at Gateway Pundit

[Emjay]

I was watching on a Conservative blog while ago about what's going on in Portland.

It is a hellish nightmare.  Antifa types are roaming the streets, stopping cars and abusing passengers and the cops are looking the other way.  There was a video of some of them abusing an old lady in a wheelchair.

[240B]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6CAJG0NvSk

[mystery-ak]

"...if you are not for the GOP you're effectively a commie Marxist."

I remember vividly the direct and subtle death threats being directed at us from morons due to our refusal to vote Trump during the last election cycle.

If you are gonna call us an enemy because we do not vote the way you demand, you are no different and of no distinction than the tyrants on the Left.

Please tell me what member gave you death threats here...

[INVAR]

Real simple.   That kind of idiotic rhetoric is only spoken by a couple of morons.   It does NOT represent the majority or most members here.

Perhaps not here, but it is an interesting barometer of what exists out there on other fora and social media.

The Left has their inciting jerks to motivate their masses and the 'right' has theirs and both of them are ratcheting up the rhetoric.

I am suggesting you consider it a possibility you are exaggerating your own importance.

I'm absolutely nobody but a fool to men.  You can take what I write however you wish; as a screed of self-impotence or nutbaggery, I don't care.  I'm not motivated by what other people think of me.

At least thats what it sounds like to me when you start talking about internet enemies pointing guns at your head.

If we are to be counted as enemies due our refusal or reluctance to support their party and president, I want to know what they intend to do about it.  If that makes me self-important in your eyes, ask me if I care that you do.

[INVAR]

Please tell me what member gave you death threats here...

No, not here dear.  It's the only reason why I am still active here.

Plenty of other fora and social media during the election, both direct and subtle.

The mindset that insists 'you are either 100% with us or 100% against us' has never abated and has shown itself even here aplenty.   And that is the foundational position that fueled the threats elsewhere.

Either we are mindful of it, or even this board will go the way others have.

[RoosGirl]

No, not here dear.  It's the only reason why I am still active here.

Plenty of other fora and social media during the election, both direct and subtle.

The mindset that insists 'you are either 100% with us or 100% against us' has never abated and has shown itself even here aplenty.   And that is the foundational position that fueled the threats elsewhere.

Either we are mindful of it, or even this board will go the way others have.

I thought I remembered someone here saying that they were keeping lists of people who did not vote for Trump?

[mystery-ak]

No, not here dear.  It's the only reason why I am still active here.

Plenty of other fora and social media during the election, both direct and subtle.

The mindset that insists 'you are either 100% with us or 100% against us' has never abated and has shown itself even here aplenty.   And that is the foundational position that fueled the threats elsewhere.

Either we are mindful of it, or even this board will go the way others have.

I will not tolerate threats or doxing...If it happens I want to know about it.

[INVAR]

I thought I remembered someone here saying that they were keeping lists of people who did not vote for Trump?

I've read that so many times in so many different places it wouldn't surprise me that it was made here too.  Usually that was followed up with the statement that payback would happen "when the time comes" and as one moron stated on another BB "We will not make any distinction between you or the Left".

I will not tolerate threats or doxing...If it happens I want to know about it.

I'm no snitch.  I fight my own battles as you well know. 

If it does occur here, you are likely not going to miss the fireworks.

[GtHawk]

Always nice to hear from our local Marxists. At this point if you are not for the GOP you're
effectively a commie Marxist.

SOS, same old SOS slinger. Seems to me that it was the commies that used that line as justification for killing their opposition....................or just anyone whose thinking wasn't right, according to them. You know, kinda like our current crop of democrats.

[skeeter]

I'm absolutely nobody but a fool to men.  You can take what I write however you wish; as a screed of self-impotence or nutbaggery, I don't care.  I'm not motivated by what other people think of me.

If we are to be counted as enemies due our refusal or reluctance to support their party and president, I want to know what they intend to do about it.  If that makes me self-important in your eyes, ask me if I care that you do.

For what its worth I think you're a guy of above average intelligence who makes interesting and generally accurate assessments on the subjects of society and morality. On politics you go off the rails.

[MOD3]

I'm no snitch.  I fight my own battles as you well know. 

If it does occur here, you are likely not going to miss the fireworks.

I appreciate that about you, @INVAR, but we want an exception to the "no snitching" rule for this case.  It's a legal liability issue for the Forum that we cannot permit.

[libertybele]

If that is what they thought, that expectation is unreasonable and reveals an ignorance of our system of government.   We are not a parliamentary democracy where if you win the election, you are in complete control.  If they thought "we now get everything we want because our guy won the Presidency", they're wrong.  And the reason they couldn't get everything they wanted -- single-payer being the biggest item -- was because a bipartisan majority in the House didn't want it.  I'm not willing to walk a mile in the shoes of emotional children throwing a temper tantrum.

McConnell was stupid to say what he said publicly, but he said nothing that both sides don't think the second an election is over.  And there is absolutely nothing wrong with promising to oppose the agenda of a President you don't like.  Zero.  Saying that you want to ensure that a President only serves one term is qualitatively from what the Dems did with Trump, which was trying to prevent him from serving the single term to which he was already elected.  When an election ends with a result we don't like, the proper recourse in a republican form of government is to try to win the next election.  It is not to attempt to undo the results of that election.

But most importantly, there is a massive, qualitative difference between elected legislators voting against an agenda they oppose -- which is what Republican dids -- and Democrats calling for incivility against Republicans in general.  That is monstrous.  And just as an aside, it is wrong to equate "respect" with "civility".  It is entirely possible to have no respect for someone, but still treat them civilly.  In fact, it is essential that is how we behave in a democratic form of government.  It's what distinguishes us from a third world thugocracy where the future is determined by who can get the most goons in the street.

   Very well stated!! 

Lack of civility I'm afraid will lead this country into either the next civil war or an out and out revolution.

[XenaLee]

For what its worth I think you're a guy of above average intelligence who makes interesting and generally accurate assessments on the subjects of society and morality. On politics you go off the rails.

But.... in all fairness.... he's not the only one, right?  lol

[txradioguy]

I thought I remembered someone here saying that they were keeping lists of people who did not vote for Trump?

@RoosGirl there's a couple people here that have said that...and even wished violence upon us for not voting for Trump.

[skeeter]

But.... in all fairness.... he's not the only one, right?  lol

In all fairness, no he's not.

[jpsb]

Maybe you think that is stupid -- the political equivalent of fiddling while Rome burns -- but standing on the sidelines is not the same as being the ones actually beating up conservatives and inciting riots.  I don't believe for a moment that you actually think @INVAR is truly a Marxist...so why say it?

We are at war with the (Marxist) democrats. Sitting on the side lines and bashing conservatives
effectively makes him an ally of the Marxists. I see little difference between the Marxists and their
allies. He does nothing but insult republicans/conservatives. I've had my fill of it.

[jpsb]

When the worm turns, people with your mindset will be doing the same damn thing the Left is doing now, and going full tilt violent on anyone and everyone perceived not 'on their side'.

That is the nature of the mindset displayed when coupled with opportunity and cause, which is coming.

There will be no more respect or honor of liberty than the left has for it.

Bloodbaths are nasty business and they do not care about anything or anyone who gets pegged and hurt beyond exacting revenge and 'winning'.  The Left is already there in total, and you folks are right behind them by a half-step.

All it needs is a spark and all that gasoline we are sitting in goes up and the fire cares not whom gets consumed.

You don't know jack. Conservatives are NOT driven by emotions, all you do is project. Seek help
you need it.

[XenaLee]

We are at war with the (Marxist) democrats. Sitting on the side lines and bashing conservatives
effectively makes him an ally of the Marxists. I see little difference between the Marxists and their
allies. He does nothing but insult republicans/conservatives. I've had my fill of it.

No it doesn't.  It makes him an individual that is observing (and commenting on) the evolving disaster.  An observer with a personal opinion, which he....like you....is entitled to have.  One could also say that you are ALSO aiding the Marxists by verbally accusing/attacking someone that is not a real leftist Marxist and not on the side of the leftists.  How does that feel?

[XenaLee]

You don't know jack. Conservatives are NOT driven by emotions, all you do is project. Seek help
you need it.

Funny/odd.   Have you lashed out equally at others here who actually HAVE bashed conservatives?  If so, I sure as hell haven't seen it.

[jpsb]

Good post @INVAR except for the unfair indictment of 'you folks.'

I used to like you @Emjay but if you are siding with @INVAR in thinking that his conservative/Trump
supporter is some kind of fascist just waiting for an opportunity to turn violent then it is time for me
to rethink my favorable opinion of you.

[XenaLee]

In all fairness, no he's not.

Thanks for your fairness.

There are quite a few members here with whom I disagree a lot of the time.   But that doesn't mean that I personally insult and/or attack them because of that disagreement.  I don't 'get' the penchant for some here to do that with INVAR.  Some folks here really need to get some control and restraint on their cyber-mouths, IMO.   

[RoosGirl]

No it doesn't.  It makes him an individual that is observing (and commenting on) the evolving disaster.  An observer with a personal opinion, which he....like you....is entitled to have.  One could also say that you are ALSO aiding the Marxists by verbally accusing/attacking someone that is not a real leftist Marxist and not on the side of the leftists.  How does that feel?

I was thinking the same thing, but @jpsb is too angry (he's had his fill of it!)  to see that he is doing the same thing that he is accusing @INVAR of doing.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Always nice to hear from our local Marxists. At this point if you are not for the GOP you're
effectively a commie Marxist.

@jpsb


Thank you for exemplifying the topic of this thread.  I accept your surrender.