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Re: "Democrats 'cannot be civil' with Republicans anymore" - Hillary Clinton
« Reply #100 on: October 11, 2018, 01:48:29 pm »
I think it's time, long past time actually, for EVERYONE here to throw away the damned broad brushes!
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Re: "Democrats 'cannot be civil' with Republicans anymore" - Hillary Clinton
« Reply #101 on: October 11, 2018, 01:49:50 pm »
No, I think you misread.  He's referring to posters on this forum that bash other members merely for not being onboard the Trump-train still.... and ergo, for not supporting the GOP.  Posters that diss the opinions of others just because they disagree.  And there are plenty of reasons to not approve of the current GOP, despite them getting a few things right lately (like the Kav vote).   Surely you agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if we ALL oppose the Marxist Democrats.  Right?

Yes I agree, I just get tired of the CONSTANT bashing of Trump and the GOP by a few members
here. In normal times I'd wouldn't mind it all that much, but these are not normal times. Every day
a leftist leader calls for violence against conservatives. Just yesterday Holder said "if they go
low we kick them, fight, fight, fight". Now is not the time to be bashing republicans.

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Re: "Democrats 'cannot be civil' with Republicans anymore" - Hillary Clinton
« Reply #102 on: October 11, 2018, 01:54:42 pm »
Yes I agree, I just get tired of the CONSTANT bashing of Trump and the GOP by a few members
here. In normal times I'd wouldn't mind it all that much, but these are not normal times. Every day
a leftist leader calls for violence against conservatives. Just yesterday Holder said "if they go
low we kick them, fight, fight, fight". Now is not the time to be bashing republicans.

Well..... while I may agree with you (as I plan on voting GOP next month).... I still do acknowledge that everyone is different, an individual here, and entitled to their own perspective on what has happened in this country.  Yeah... I see how the GOP has betrayed us and even pushed us conservatives to the back of that bus (or in front of it to get run over).  But we here have a common enemy, despite all that.  And that enemy is the radical left.  That's what we need to focus on defeating.  Not 'each other'.
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Re: "Democrats 'cannot be civil' with Republicans anymore" - Hillary Clinton
« Reply #103 on: October 11, 2018, 01:54:58 pm »
Enemy identification 101. Lesson #1

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Re: "Democrats 'cannot be civil' with Republicans anymore" - Hillary Clinton
« Reply #104 on: October 11, 2018, 01:55:34 pm »
  One could also say that you are ALSO aiding the Marxists by verbally accusing/attacking someone that is not a real leftist Marxist and not on the side of the leftists.  How does that feel?

@XenaLee , you are exactly right.  What the leftist/Marxists are doing right now is unprecedented in modern American history, and when we start equating NeverTrumpers or AlwaysTrumpers with those people, we are losing perspective and actually minimizing how far off the rails the Democrats have gone.  Unfortunately, both fringe NT'ers and fringe AT'ers are doing that.

We are at war with the (Marxist) democrats. Sitting on the side lines and bashing conservatives
effectively makes him an ally of the Marxists. I see little difference between the Marxists and their
allies. He does nothing but insult republicans/conservatives. I've had my fill of it.

That is not true.  He also insults leftists and Marxists@INVAR is basically an "a pox on all your houses" guy.  Now, while I would disagree with any argument that the two sides are the same, or equally blameworthy, it is neither fair nor accurate to claim that he "does nothing but insult" Trump supporters, or what you characterize as "Republicans/conservatives".

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Re: "Democrats 'cannot be civil' with Republicans anymore" - Hillary Clinton
« Reply #105 on: October 11, 2018, 01:56:13 pm »
We are at war with the (Marxist) democrats. Sitting on the side lines and bashing conservatives
effectively makes him an ally of the Marxists. I see little difference between the Marxists and their
allies. He does nothing but insult republicans/conservatives. I've had my fill of it.
I think I see your problem You have confused being a "Republican" with being a "conservative". While there is some overlap, the two terms are far from interchangeable.
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Re: "Democrats 'cannot be civil' with Republicans anymore" - Hillary Clinton
« Reply #106 on: October 11, 2018, 01:56:42 pm »
I was thinking the same thing, but @jpsb is too angry (he's had his fill of it!)  to see that he is doing the same thing that he is accusing @INVAR of doing.

Angry is good... as long as you learn to focus it in the correct direction.... ie the rabid left.   happy77
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« Reply #107 on: October 11, 2018, 01:57:08 pm »
Enemy Identification 101 Lesson#2

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Re: "Democrats 'cannot be civil' with Republicans anymore" - Hillary Clinton
« Reply #108 on: October 11, 2018, 01:57:57 pm »
Yes I agree, I just get tired of the CONSTANT bashing of Trump and the GOP by a few members
here. In normal times I'd wouldn't mind it all that much, but these are not normal times. Every day
a leftist leader calls for violence against conservatives. Just yesterday Holder said "if they go
low we kick them, fight, fight, fight". Now is not the time to be bashing republicans.

Ok, I'll bite: what's the difference between "criticizing" and "bashing" republicans? After the confirmation of Kavanaugh, what do we have? Trillion dollar deficits, a bloated military budget, and the swamp is alive and well in DC.


Murkowski remains chairperson of a powerful Senate committee, she should have been removed by now.
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Re: "Democrats 'cannot be civil' with Republicans anymore" - Hillary Clinton
« Reply #109 on: October 11, 2018, 01:59:13 pm »
Well..... while I may agree with you (as I plan on voting GOP next month).... I still do acknowledge that everyone is different, an individual here, and entitled to their own perspective on what has happened in this country.  Yeah... I see how the GOP has betrayed us and even pushed us conservatives to the back of that bus (or in front of it to get run over).  But we here have a common enemy, despite all that.  And that enemy is the radical left.  That's what we need to focus on defeating.  Not 'each other'.


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« Reply #110 on: October 11, 2018, 01:59:46 pm »
Enemy Identification 101, Lesson #3

"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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« Reply #111 on: October 11, 2018, 02:00:56 pm »
Angry is good... as long as you learn to focus it in the correct direction.... ie the rabid left.   happy77

Sure, angry is fine.  Too angry and you stop thinking clearly.

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« Reply #112 on: October 11, 2018, 02:01:11 pm »
Ok, I'll bite: what's the difference between "criticizing" and "bashing" republicans? After the confirmation of Kavanaugh, what do we have? Trillion dollar deficits, a bloated military budget, and the swamp is alive and well in DC.


Murkowski remains chairperson of a powerful Senate committee, she should have been removed by now.
Murkowski remains a poster child for proving that "Republican" does not equal "Conservative". She, Collins, Graham, and the late McCain all seemed to defect for critical votes on Conservative issues.
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« Reply #113 on: October 11, 2018, 02:04:52 pm »
I think it's time, long past time actually, for EVERYONE here to throw away the damned broad brushes!

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« Reply #114 on: October 11, 2018, 02:06:07 pm »
Ok, I'll bite: what's the difference between "criticizing" and "bashing" republicans? After the confirmation of Kavanaugh, what do we have? Trillion dollar deficits, a bloated military budget, and the swamp is alive and well in DC.


Murkowski remains chairperson of a powerful Senate committee, she should have been removed by now.

And... other that a few "obligatory firings"... we still haven't seen anyone frog-marched or behind bars for their part in the orchestrated coup against Trump by FBI and Democrat swamp creatures.   If nobody's going to jail, what's the point of all the endless investigations?  Just admit to us that we have a banana republic already and use the taxpayer cash for more leftie pork projects.  It's what they want to do anyway (sure as hell isn't for building that wall or for repealing Obiecare).

See?  I can bash and criticize the GOP without being what I detest.... a leftist.  Easy peasy!  lolol
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« Reply #115 on: October 11, 2018, 02:07:36 pm »
Ok, I'll bite: what's the difference between "criticizing" and "bashing" republicans? After the confirmation of Kavanaugh, what do we have? Trillion dollar deficits, a bloated military budget, and the swamp is alive and well in DC.


Murkowski remains chairperson of a powerful Senate committee, she should have been removed by now.

Prior to the election of president Trump I was a huge basher of republicans. I hate neocons. Yes
there is a lot not to like about the phony "conservatives" in the GOP. But even the phonies are
far better then the Marxists in the rat party. I tire of the circular firing squad that the GOP seems
to be. Perhaps I am part of the problem  as others have said. I will spend some time thinking
about that.

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« Reply #116 on: October 11, 2018, 02:10:04 pm »
Sure, angry is fine.  Too angry and you stop thinking clearly.

I've been too angry, as well, over the Kavanaugh fiasco.  But the lesson was to calm down.... and wait for it to play out.  The left has lost an awful lot over the past two years.  I'm praying for that trend to continue.   :0001:
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« Reply #117 on: October 11, 2018, 02:10:40 pm »


Murkowski remains chairperson of a powerful Senate committee, she should have been removed by now.

If you remove her from committees now, she's a guarantee to flip parties if the Senate ends up 50-50 after the election.  That would mean Schumer instead of McConnell as Majority Leader, Democracts having a one vote advantage on every committee, etc..  McConnell's criticism of her has been almost nonexistent for precisely that reason, and wisely so.

Now, if the GOP comes out of the midterms with a cushion in the Senate so that majority status isn't dependent upon her caucusing with Republicans...McConnell may rethink his position.

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« Reply #118 on: October 11, 2018, 02:11:21 pm »
Prior to the election of president Trump I was a huge basher of republicans. I hate neocons. Yes
there is a lot not to like about the phony "conservatives" in the GOP. But even the phonies are
far better then the Marxists in the rat party.
I tire of the circular firing squad that the GOP seems
to be. Perhaps I am part of the problem  as others have said. I will spend some time thinking
about that.

True dat.   So... we've reached agreement.   :beer:
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« Reply #119 on: October 11, 2018, 02:12:41 pm »
If you remove her from committees now, she's a guarantee to flip parties if the Senate ends up 50-50 after the election.  That would mean Schumer instead of McConnell as Majority Leader, Democracts having a one vote advantage on every committee, etc..  McConnell's criticism of her has been almost nonexistent for precisely that reason, and wisely so.

Now, if the GOP comes out of the midterms with a cushion in the Senate so that majority status isn't dependent upon her caucusing with Republicans...McConnell may rethink his position.

Ooooh.... crap.   Didn't think of that.   Damn good catch! 
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« Reply #120 on: October 11, 2018, 02:35:38 pm »
We are at war with the (Marxist) democrats.

No you are not.

You're busy playing politics, nothing more.

That is not 'war', even if you are itching for one.

Sitting on the side lines and bashing conservatives effectively makes him an ally of the Marxists.

You people have been busy bashing those espousing foundational principles since you made Trump your prince.  The vitriol and contempt for religious principles being defended here on this board is more than a case-in-point.   That said, Republicans are not Conservatives, especially when they are not acting like Conservatives and excusing deficit spending and making all the same assorted garbage excuses for liberalism that the Left does notwithstanding their own hostility to principles they want silenced or surrendered for political pragmatism and expedience, or because they are as disgusted by them as the Godless Left is.

If that makes me an 'ally' of the Marxists it just proves that the only thing you care about is marching in lockstep to party and persona, and that you give a rat's ass about that which you  pay lip service to.

I see little difference between the Marxists and their allies. He does nothing but insult republicans/conservatives. I've had my fill of it.

Better put me on ignore then.
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« Reply #121 on: October 11, 2018, 03:27:04 pm »
I used to like you @Emjay but if you are siding with @INVAR in thinking that his conservative/Trump
supporter is some kind of fascist just waiting for an opportunity to turn violent then it is time for me
to rethink my favorable opinion of you.

Well, @jpsb I always liked you also but I'm a little appalled that you would: one, think I ever side with @INVAR or two, that my tossing a kind word his way would result in your turning on me.

I don't need friends like that.
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« Reply #122 on: October 11, 2018, 03:29:18 pm »
If you remove her from committees now, she's a guarantee to flip parties if the Senate ends up 50-50 after the election.  That would mean Schumer instead of McConnell as Majority Leader, Democracts having a one vote advantage on every committee, etc..  McConnell's criticism of her has been almost nonexistent for precisely that reason, and wisely so.

Now, if the GOP comes out of the midterms with a cushion in the Senate so that majority status isn't dependent upon her caucusing with Republicans...McConnell may rethink his position.

It just isn't practical to turn on her now, not for an individual vote but, as you say, because she does have the R and gives us that precious majority.

Personally I am praying for that cushion.
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« Reply #123 on: October 11, 2018, 04:12:06 pm »
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« Reply #124 on: October 11, 2018, 04:53:26 pm »


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