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Pure CYA by those now claiming, "oh, Trump is now holding out an olive branch", these people treated others horrible and if they are conservatives, they sure hid it for the last 18 months, now, that it would be absurd to cling to the old position with slander may I add, now, it's a different drumbeat. Good if they have changed but their earlier position did not support conservatism or party unity at all.

Trump and Cruz have worked together for a year and a half, now the slanderers get the message?  888mouth

You don't know if some people these people tore down worked heavily for Cruz, at the least, I've got a track record of having done so.
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Pure CYA by those now claiming, "oh, Trump is now holding out an olive branch", these people treated others horrible and if they are conservatives, they sure hid it for the last 18 months, now, that it would be absurd to cling to the old position with slander may I add, now, it's a different drumbeat. Good if they have changed but their earlier position did not support conservatism or party unity at all.

Trump and Cruz have worked together for a year and a half, now the slanderers get the message?  888mouth

You don't know if some people these people tore down worked heavily for Cruz, at the least, I've got a track record of having done so.

It doesn't matter at all what Cruz and Trump think or do to support each other.   The evidence is right here on TBR.  It is the voters who go to the polls and as we are divided here they are divided also.  The party is divided.  And if the saying is true divided we fall.

Right here at TBR if people mention Cruz there is reprise.  And we also still have feelings about the ugliness of Trump to Cruz.  Once the fracture occurred and continued it split voters.  That is Cruz problem.  Maybe Trump can help him or maybe he can't.  There are deeply held feelings.  And in Trumps administration we are still dividing Republicans.  Like Jeff Sessions who Trump himself hired for the job.  You can blame the "witch hunt" or get on with running the country. 

It is so tiring.  The arguments about Russia, the division in the party.  Maybe Trump could be a good president, but he is stuck on Russia and who wouldn't lie for him.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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It doesn't matter at all what Cruz and Trump think or do to support each other.   The evidence is right here on TBR.  It is the voters who go to the polls and as we are divided here they are divided also.  The party is divided.  And if the saying is true divided we fall.

Right here at TBR if people mention Cruz there is reprise.  And we also still have feelings about the ugliness of Trump to Cruz.  Once the fracture occurred and continued it split voters.  That is Cruz problem.  Maybe Trump can help him or maybe he can't.  There are deeply held feelings.  And in Trumps administration we are still dividing Republicans.  Like Jeff Sessions who Trump himself hired for the job.  You can blame the "witch hunt" or get on with running the country. 

It is so tiring.  The arguments about Russia, the division in the party.  Maybe Trump could be a good president, but he is stuck on Russia and who wouldn't lie for him.

....hmm... Trump isn't stuck on Russia, the corruption of the past administration and those who don't want him to succeed are stuck on Russian allegations.

As far as Trump and Cruz, I would hope that most people would have licked their wounds and moved on and realize that the left must be defeated in the mid terms. If not, all the grudges and mud slinging will be absolutely futile and issues mute.  I have absolutely no problem with Trump and Cruz being together to defeat the left.  I think they are going to make a very powerful team.

Cruz lost.  Trump won. Time to get over it and move on. 
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....hmm... Trump isn't stuck on Russia, the corruption of the past administration and those who don't want him to succeed are stuck on Russian allegations.

A short review of President Trump's recent twitter posts reveals this as grossly inaccurate.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

And there is a difference between not wanting President Trump to succeed, and recognizing failure.

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Cruz lost.  Trump won. Time to get over it and move on.

To what end?

I'm reading essays from Republicans who are advocating that they abandon all talk of free markets, free trade, tax cuts, abortion, gay marriage and instead focus on universal healthcare, Protectionism and becoming a Worker's Party.  That to 'win' they must embrace liberalism and attract liberals and disaffected Democrats to themselves.

Apparently, to 'get over it' means to get on with becoming a Liberal Democrat party now that the Democrats have gone full-blown Marxist.

Conservatism has no home in either major Party because BOTH have repudiated and rejected it.

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I'm not that thrilled with him.  Most Republicans in this state are liberal and I think Barletta is one of them. 

 Bullshit. Lou is hard core. He will be to the right of Toomey if he wins.

I'll also add that ads are not effective until after this weekend when people are paying attention. That is usually when all the big buys are scheduled for.
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To what end?

I'm reading essays from Republicans who are advocating that they abandon all talk of free markets, free trade, tax cuts, abortion, gay marriage and instead focus on universal healthcare, Protectionism and becoming a Worker's Party.  That to 'win' they must embrace liberalism and attract liberals and disaffected Democrats to themselves.

Apparently, to 'get over it' means to get on with becoming a Liberal Democrat party now that the Democrats have gone full-blown Marxist.

Conservatism has no home in either major Party because BOTH have repudiated and rejected it.

??? I am in no way advocating embracing liberalism.  I'm not quite sure how you arrived at that conclusion.  Cruz is very much a conservative and President Trump is taking this country more to the right then we have been in a very long time, including the last years of 'W'.

Members of both parties may be rejecting conservatism, but right now, IMHO for the most part, that's the direction that we are heading.
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??? I am in no way advocating embracing liberalism. 

Not saying you are. I'm asking the rhetorical question after your comment that we 'need to get over it and move on' - and so I ask, to what end?

I'm not reading much if any advocacy for the return to first principles.   Instead I'm reading things like the essay I referenced.  So, if we need to 'get over' the election results and move on - to what end are we moving?

I do not see the Republican Party moving Conservative.  I'm reading the opposite in advocacy from Republicans themselves.

Cruz is very much a conservative

For the moment, yes - but if he intends to hold onto it and act in accords to his conscience he is not going to be able to do that in the Republican party for much longer.

President Trump is taking this country more to the right then we have been in a very long time, including the last years of 'W'.

I disagree with that estimation.  Trillion dollar-plus deficits, tax increases and calls to impose a new Fairness Doctrine for the internet are not exactly Conservative positions.  But then neither is universal healthcare or Workers Party stuff either, but this is where we are told the Republican party will need to focus it's promotion of.

Members of both parties may be rejecting conservatism, but right now, IMHO for the most part, that's the direction that we are heading.

We will get to judge the fruits in due course, won't we?  For now, whatever seeds of "Conservatism" Trump is sowing have yet to germinate outside of a court nomination and some EOs easily overturned. 
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....hmm... Trump isn't stuck on Russia, the corruption of the past administration and those who don't want him to succeed are stuck on Russian allegations.

As far as Trump and Cruz, I would hope that most people would have licked their wounds and moved on and realize that the left must be defeated in the mid terms. If not, all the grudges and mud slinging will be absolutely futile and issues mute.  I have absolutely no problem with Trump and Cruz being together to defeat the left.  I think they are going to make a very powerful team.

Cruz lost.  Trump won. Time to get over it and move on.

Concede Trump won.  But he is still blatantly obvious on this website that people still hold a grudge against Cruz.  Just a fact.  We all see it all the time.  We can't say anything positive about him.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Concede Trump won.  But he is still blatantly obvious on this website that people still hold a grudge against Cruz.  Just a fact.  We all see it all the time.  We can't say anything positive about him.

Well, those that live in TX that still have a grudge against Cruz have a choice; vote for Beto, hold their nose and vote for Cruz or stay home.  My hunch is that they'll vote for Cruz; especially if their illustrious leader tells them to vote for him!
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Well, those that live in TX that still have a grudge against Cruz have a choice; vote for Beto, hold their nose and vote for Cruz or stay home.  My hunch is that they'll vote for Cruz; especially if their illustrious leader tells them to vote for him!

I think he will win also. 
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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To what end?

I'm reading essays from Republicans who are advocating..

Then post those essays, so they won't be rattling around all alone, inside your skull.
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I think he will win also.

If he doesn't it will be an incredible victory for the DEMS and a tremendous upset for the GOP.
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Concede Trump won.  But he is still blatantly obvious on this website that people still hold a grudge against Cruz.  Just a fact.  We all see it all the time.  We can't say anything positive about him.

Yep.  That's the part that gets to me too.  The incessant lying.  I have long since "moved on" by supporting my President when he does something Conservative or when he is unfairly attacked.  Yet here we are two years later, and I still get bombarded with BS like 'Cruz is a RINO', or 'Cruz is an Establishment hack', or 'Cruz stabbed Trump in the back'.  Or worst of all, 'Lying Ted'.

I sincerely believe that Trump and Cruz have privately discussed the past, have made amends, and have moved on.  Yet the Trump sycophants are still stuck repeating the same lies of 2016 - effectively doing the GOPe's dirty work for them.  I truly believe that Mitch McConnell would be perfectly willing to cede that Texas Senate seat to a Democrat if it got rid of Ted Cruz.  And that goes for all his cronies on the Republican National Committee who see people like Ted Cruz and his commitment to the grass roots as their gravest threat.
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I truly believe that Mitch McConnell would be perfectly willing to cede that Texas Senate seat to a Democrat if it got rid of Ted Cruz.

Without question.

Have we forgotten what McConnell did to McDaniel's in concert with Democrats?
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I don't trust Ted Cruz. He will stab president in the back,,,again.  President Trump believes in second and third chances. 
I don't.  School of hard knocks, taught me well.  That is all I have to say about TED. Time will prove it out. Ted traitor.

School of hard knocks?! Omg, you’re the Michael Scott of TBR!
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I don't trust Ted Cruz. He will stab president in the back,,,again.  President Trump believes in second and third chances. 
I don't.  School of hard knocks, taught me well.  That is all I have to say about TED. Time will prove it out. Ted traitor.

Yeah, yeah yeah and his dad was involved in the killing of Kennedy and of course he was the liar not the liar in chief. You know you all have beat that damn horse so long and so hard all you have left is beating yourselves.

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Yep.  That's the part that gets to me too.  The incessant lying.  I have long since "moved on" by supporting my President when he does something Conservative or when he is unfairly attacked.  Yet here we are two years later, and I still get bombarded with BS like 'Cruz is a RINO', or 'Cruz is an Establishment hack', or 'Cruz stabbed Trump in the back'.  Or worst of all, 'Lying Ted'.

I sincerely believe that Trump and Cruz have privately discussed the past, have made amends, and have moved on.  Yet the Trump sycophants are still stuck repeating the same lies of 2016 - effectively doing the GOPe's dirty work for them.  I truly believe that Mitch McConnell would be perfectly willing to cede that Texas Senate seat to a Democrat if it got rid of Ted Cruz.  And that goes for all his cronies on the Republican National Committee who see people like Ted Cruz and his commitment to the grass roots as their gravest threat.

Exactly what I was getting at.  And the Trump supporters need Trump to come to Teds defense because they would vote for the Democrat unless Trump gave the signal.  Trumpbots that won't vote for anyone unless Trump approves of them.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Yep.  That's the part that gets to me too.  The incessant lying.  I have long since "moved on" by supporting my President when he does something Conservative or when he is unfairly attacked.  Yet here we are two years later, and I still get bombarded with BS like 'Cruz is a RINO', or 'Cruz is an Establishment hack', or 'Cruz stabbed Trump in the back'.  Or worst of all, 'Lying Ted'.

I sincerely believe that Trump and Cruz have privately discussed the past, have made amends, and have moved on.  Yet the Trump sycophants are still stuck repeating the same lies of 2016 - effectively doing the GOPe's dirty work for them.  I truly believe that Mitch McConnell would be perfectly willing to cede that Texas Senate seat to a Democrat if it got rid of Ted Cruz.  And that goes for all his cronies on the Republican National Committee who see people like Ted Cruz and his commitment to the grass roots as their gravest threat.



OK, time for you to "get over it too".  I don't live in Texas. If my president Trump can work with Ted, I will support that. That is how much, I am on the RIGHT.   I will support GOP.  I have  posted, I plan to vote republican down the line and even if some are rino's, I will hold my nose and vote republican anyway.  Now, I did not say Ted is the rino, I will vote for.
That is a general statement.  I wish people would read the actual words posted and NOT put in their own ideas, of what they think the person said. Now, again, not talking about YOU. This is my general observation posting on sites.

(I am posting in the here and now, not about any other post I typed, in the past)

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OK, time for you to "get over it too".

Get over what?  Get over the repetition of people like you showing up here two years after the Convention is over and still telling lies about what Ted Cruz did?  That's what I'm supposed to get over?  Your standards are whack.
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Donny should show up at the rally, tell everyone to vote their conscience, drop the mic and walk out.

Damn, I have been avoiding Conservative sites with the McCain funeral going on and the irrational responses to such and the first thing I see is Frank @Frank Cannon saying something that makes sense.... :shrug:

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School of hard knocks?! Omg, you’re the Michael Scott of TBR!

Is that better or worse than being Dwight Schrute?
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Is that better or worse than being Dwight Schrute?

Crap. Now I think @LegalAmerican might be the Dwight Schrute of TBR. He’s got that condescension down pat.
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