Trump to sign spending bill (Live Signing Event at 1PM EST)

[RoosGirl]

Funny, because he had presented himself as such and had a lot of people fooled into thinking he was fiscally conservative.


Mr. Trump is a rock star for Republicans, but he’s never been easily categorized.

So I asked him straight out if he considers himself a member of the Tea Party.

“I certainly seem to be in a sense. They like me, and I like them. And we have very much the same principles,” Mr. Trump answered. “When I speak to the Tea Party, they have the biggest crowd of anybody.”

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/7/donald-trump-says-hes-a-tea-party-member/


Nevertheless, Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, believes that Donald Trump is a fiscal conservative: in fact, Norquist believes Trump has the potential to surpass even Ronald Reagan and become the most fiscally conservative president in modern history.

http://time.com/4354389/grover-norquist-donald-trump-fiscal-conservative/


Mr. Trump, you've heard the argument from many of the candidates on this stage that you're not a true conservative. Tell the voters watching tonight why you are.

Well, I think I am, and to me, I view the word conservative as a derivative of the word “conserve.” We want to conserve our money. We want to conserve our wealth. We want to conserve. We want to be smart. We want to be smart where we go, where we spend, how we spend. We want to conserve our country. We want to save our country. And we have people that have no idea how to do that, and they are not doing it, and it's a very important word and it's something I believe in very, very strongly.

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So is Trump a true conservative? He would transfer power back from the federal government to the states. He would cut the federal government’s budget. He would enforce immigration laws. He would combat lawlessness due to immigration. And he would balance trade. His proposals indicate that he is indeed a true political conservative.

https://www.americanthinker.com

Grover must be feeling like a real dumb bleep right now.

[DB]

Grover must be feeling like a real dumb bleep right now.

Trump was a mostly empty vessel that many could fill with their own imaginations... From bone spur warrior to fiscal conservative...

[guitar4jesus]

Trump was a mostly empty vessel that many could fill with their own imaginations... From bone spur warrior to fiscal conservative...

Exactly!

[INVAR]

Grover must be feeling like a real dumb bleep right now.

I don't think so.  From what I'm reading out there, the rabid Trump faithful are doubling down on the stupidity this evening.  Going so far as to suggest this budget deal is the most conservative thing Trump could get from both parties who hate him.

Oh and the gun control and the banning of bump stocks and FixNICS is also getting much praise out there in Trumpland.

Truly, Trump could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue...

[libertybele]

I don't think so.  From what I'm reading out there, the rabid Trump faithful are doubling down on the stupidity this evening.  Going so far as to suggest this budget deal is the most conservative thing Trump could get from both parties who hate him.

Oh and the gun control and the banning of bump stocks and FixNICS is also getting much praise out there in Trumpland.

Truly, Trump could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue...

Cruz: Those who bolstered Trump will 'bear that responsibility going forward'.  I can't emphasize that enough right now.

[edpc]

Cruz: Those who bolstered Trump will 'bear that responsibility going forward'.  I can't emphasize that enough right now.

Between Trump's spending and Barton's nude Skype chats, this is what regret looks like......

[Stevensr123]

What a disgrace trump is, or more importantly the people who voted for such a an incompetent , left idiot in.

And no it wasn't trump vs Clinton. I'm talking about even before that.

You had fine and conservative people like rand Paul and ted Cruz, yet you chose the billionaire from New York that was born in the swamp. Everything he is doing now, is to bennifitt his dynasty afterwords.

[WingNot]

What a disgrace trump is, or more importantly the people who voted for such a an incompetent , left idiot in.

And no it wasn't trump vs Clinton. I'm talking about even before that.

You had fine and conservative people like rand Paul and ted Cruz, yet you chose the billionaire from New York that was born in the swamp. Everything he is doing now, is to bennifitt his dynasty afterwords.

Nice to see the Limie weighing in on our situation.   

[RoosGirl]

I don't think so.  From what I'm reading out there, the rabid Trump faithful are doubling down on the stupidity this evening.  Going so far as to suggest this budget deal is the most conservative thing Trump could get from both parties who hate him.

Oh and the gun control and the banning of bump stocks and FixNICS is also getting much praise out there in Trumpland.

Truly, Trump could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue...

Awesome, something to look forward to.

[Stevensr123]

And I might be drunk right now off a bottl of vodka while it is raining again in sunny old England , but I just fell like you guys have pissed a trick when it comes to rand Paul. The guy seems like the most competent and conservative politician currently.

Trump is the the opposite , loves debt, hates marriage and Christian values,  a billionaire who by all accounts doesn't give a crap about working people. Why?

[RoosGirl]

And I might be drunk right now off a bottl of vodka while it is raining again in sunny old England , but I just fell like you guys have pissed a trick when it comes to rand Paul. The guy seems like the most competent and conservative politician currently.

Trump is the the opposite , loves debt, hates marriage and Christian values,  a billionaire who by all accounts doesn't give a crap about working people. Why?

I think "he fights" is the answer to that question. 

[corbe]

   Very astute observation @Stevensr123

[Stevensr123]

Nice to see the Limie weighing in on our situation.

what  a limie  ^-^

To be honest mate I am one of a few who still thinks America is the greatest nation on earth. I respect so much about you, your history and what you have become.

 Which is why it's sad to see this situation.

The democrats where a complete joke when they where in power, sadly on the world stage trump is making it worse!

And I fear trump is gonna make the fantastic conservative people be out of power for many years to come . That is what I fear

[GrouchoTex]

And I might be drunk right now off a bottl of vodka while it is raining again in sunny old England , but I just fell like you guys have pissed a trick when it comes to rand Paul. The guy seems like the most competent and conservative politician currently.

Trump is the the opposite , loves debt, hates marriage and Christian values,  a billionaire who by all accounts doesn't give a crap about working people. Why?

Yeah, drunk was my first guess. Thanks for the confirmation.
You are 6 hours ahead of me, so give me time.
I'll get there, eventually.

7 million people who voted for Obama, also voted for Trump.
They chased the bright and shiny object, chance for hope and change, or MAGA.
It put him over the top.
Some people just don't take politics as seriously as others, and this is the kind of results you can expect.
Some expect saviors, rather than doing the heavy lifting.

[edpc]

And I might be drunk right now off a bottl of vodka while it is raining again in sunny old England , but I just fell like you guys have pissed a trick when it comes to rand Paul. The guy seems like the most competent and conservative politician currently.

Fair or not, Paul was still carrying some baggage from his father in the 2016 primary.

[Stevensr123]

And again I'm drunk FYI but again it seems like republicans (not the true  ones) are going against all the values I always thought you guys held high.

For me you was the party of Christian values , respectable demeanour, Russia was the enemy (and it still is by the way!!), strong family values, against debt and conservative policies.

But this president goes against everything about this  and it was obvious from the start .

This was a guy who used to party with the Hillary and the rapist all the time!

[mystery-ak]

For me you was the party of Christian values , respectable demeanour, Russia was the enemy (and it still is by the way!!), strong family values, against debt and conservative policies.

It is for most here...

I apologize for the limey remark up thread

[Stevensr123]

Yeah, drunk was my first guess. Thanks for the confirmation.
You are 6 hours ahead of me, so give me time.
I'll get there, eventually.

7 million people who voted for Obama, also voted for Trump.
They chased the bright and shiny object, chance for hope and change, or MAGA.
It put him over the top.
Some people just don't take politics as seriously as others, and this is the kind of results you can expect.
Some expect saviors, rather than doing the heavy lifting.

haha what time is it their mate?

Sadly politicians  where ever you live isn't very much different. I am also a citizen of Australia and it's the same their.  I think it's human nature. Sadly power and money corrupts.


I was having a debate with my old man before and we came  to the collusion (that had probably been the collusion for the past 5000 years) the very day man can do a better job than the people leading the nations

[edpc]

It is our fault for not incentivizing Trump properly. The deal should be...





Sign a balanced budget.......





......and she'll give you back your jacket.

[Stevensr123]

It is for most here...

I apologize for the limey remark up thread

i don't even know what a limes Is 

What is it?

[GrouchoTex]

For me you was the party of Christian values , respectable demeanour, Russia was the enemy (and it still is by the way!!), strong family values, against debt and conservative policies.

Those things have not gone away.
It just doesn't get the airtime, or recognition, it deserves.

[Stevensr123]

Those things have not gone away.
It just doesn't get the airtime, or recognition, it deserves.

its a damn shame as well, because being s conservative is the simplest form of governing :(

So so many problems would go away if people and govement would just STFU and let people and business be

Instead you have govements willing race wars, foreign wars, finance wars etc and want it! F*** off bit govement and things will correct itself

[mystery-ak]

i don't even know what a limes Is 

What is it?

I always thought it was a derogatory name for a Brit..

btw I lived in GB for 18mos when my dad was stationed there with the RAF in the late 50's..long before your time

[XenaLee]

what  a limie  ^-^

To be honest mate I am one of a few who still thinks America is the greatest nation on earth. I respect so much about you, your history and what you have become.

 Which is why it's sad to see this situation.

The democrats where a complete joke when they where in power, sadly on the world stage trump is making it worse!

And I fear trump is gonna make the fantastic conservative people be out of power for many years to come . That is what I fear

He spelled it wrong.  He meant "Limey"....a nickname for Brits... kinda like the Brits call us Yanks.

Limey

Limey is a predominantly North American slang nickname for the British people, originally referring to their sailors. The term is thought to have originated in the 1850s as lime-juicer, later shortened to "limey", and originally used as a derogatory word for sailors in the British Royal Navy. Since the beginning of the 19th century it had been the practice of the Royal Navy of adding lemon juice to the sailors' daily ration of grog. The vitamin C in citrus fruits prevented scurvy, and helped to make these sailors some of the healthiest of the time. Back then "lemon" and "lime" were used interchangeably to refer to citrus fruits. Initially, lemon juice was used as the additive to grog on the Royal Navy ships, but was later switched to limes, not realizing that limes did not contain sufficient Vitamin C to prevent the disease.

[edpc]

Its a damn shame as well, because being s conservative is the simplest form of governing :(

Unfortunately, it's one of the hardest ways to get elected. People love to be promised 'free' stuff.  Worse yet, politicians enjoy the power and control doling it out provides.