Flake calls for 2020 Trump primary challenger

[mystery-ak]

Flake calls for 2020 Trump primary challenger
By Julia Manchester - 03/11/18 09:52 AM EDT

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called for a Republican to challenge President Trump in the 2020 election on Sunday during an interview with NBC's Chuck Todd on "Meet the Press." 

"Do you think he needs to be challenged from somebody who espouses your views?" Todd asked Flake.

"Yes, I do. I do. I mean, it would be a tough go in a Republican primary. The Republican Party is the Trump party right now. But that's not to say it will stay that way," Flake said.

The retiring Arizona has long been one of Trump's chief critics in the Republican Party, often lashing out at the president for his immigration and economic policies, as well as for his bombastic rhetoric. He criticized the Trump administration when announcing he would not run again for Senate.

Flake made similar comments earlier this month, and would not rule out a 2020 challenge to Trump.

“I do think the president will have a challenge from the Republican Party, I think there should be,” Flake said. “I also think that there will be an independent challenge, particularly if the Democrats insist on putting somebody up from the far left of the party.”

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[libertybele]

Flake calls for 2020 Trump primary challenger
By Julia Manchester - 03/11/18 09:52 AM EDT

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called for a Republican to challenge President Trump in the 2020 election on Sunday during an interview with NBC's Chuck Todd on "Meet the Press." 

"Do you think he needs to be challenged from somebody who espouses your views?" Todd asked Flake.

"Yes, I do. I do. I mean, it would be a tough go in a Republican primary. The Republican Party is the Trump party right now. But that's not to say it will stay that way," Flake said.

The retiring Arizona has long been one of Trump's chief critics in the Republican Party, often lashing out at the president for his immigration and economic policies, as well as for his bombastic rhetoric. He criticized the Trump administration when announcing he would not run again for Senate.

Flake made similar comments earlier this month, and would not rule out a 2020 challenge to Trump.

“I do think the president will have a challenge from the Republican Party, I think there should be,” Flake said. “I also think that there will be an independent challenge, particularly if the Democrats insist on putting somebody up from the far left of the party.”

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Isn't Flake supposed to be stepping down? 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Unless the GOP scraps the winner take all primary system, Trump will be as hard to stop in 2020 as he was in 2016.

[Cyber Liberty]

Isn't Flake supposed to be stepping down?

I presume what the article means by "retiring."

To Jeffie Boy, I say, "Go ahead and do it yourself."  If you think "somebody" needs to do it, then stop whining, step up, man up, and get 'er done.  Everybody's counting on you.

I can't wait to see what nickname Trump comes up with for a guy named "Flake."

[Cyber Liberty]

Unless the GOP scraps the winner take all primary system, Trump will be as hard to stop in 2020 as he was in 2016.

Until the the Electoral college ceases being "winner take all," it would be dumb to scrap WTA for the Primaries.  We run Primaries to find the best candidate to win the General Election, and that means we should match the General Election rules.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Until the the Electoral college ceases being "winner take all," it would be dumb to scrap WTA for the Primaries.  We run Primaries to find the best candidate to win the General Election, and that means we should match the General Election rules.

Electoral college isn't really winner take all though, otherwise Hillary would have won.

[Free Vulcan]

Flake really is a great last name for old Jeffers. The man can truly be himself.

[Cyber Liberty]

Electoral college isn't really winner take all though, otherwise Hillary would have won.

Only one or two states are not winner take all.  The rest are Winner Take all.  Hillary would have won if we had been Popular Vote wins, and that's a much different argument.

As it is, we have quite a few proportional Convention Delegate rules for the primary anyway.  It's a non-issue for me.  As it is, I'd like the candidates to consider a Presidential Election (Primary and General) as 50 separate elections.  That's what the Founders intended, to prevent having a tiny number of population centers picking the President.  I don't have to tell you how much that would suck.

[Emjay]

Isn't Flake supposed to be stepping down?

But, apparently, not shutting up.

[Free Vulcan]

Unless the GOP scraps the winner take all primary system, Trump will be as hard to stop in 2020 as he was in 2016.

It's not WTA. Some states are, some states are proportioned, some give a certain percentage to the winner then proportion the rest.

[Free Vulcan]

Only one or two states are not winner take all.  The rest are Winner Take all.  Hillary would have won if we had been Popular Vote wins, and that's a much different argument.

As it is, we have quite a few proportional Convention Delegate rules for the primary anyway.  It's a non-issue for me.  As it is, I'd like the candidates to consider a Presidential Election (Primary and General) as 50 separate elections.  That's what the Founders intended, to prevent having a tiny number of population centers picking the President.  I don't have to tell you how much that would suck.

Side note: if all the states proportioned the EC by congressional district, Romney would have just barely beaten Obama.

[truth_seeker]

But, apparently, not shutting up.

Flake, McMuffin, Romney and Beck are teaming up. Quattro Deseret Muchachos.

Beck's media empire, Romney's money, Flake and McMuffin for office. Romney for potus 2020.

[Cyber Liberty]

Side note: if all the states proportioned the EC by congressional district, Romney would have just barely beaten Obama.

That's the only proportional EC I could like. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Flake, McMuffin, Romney and Beck are teaming up. Quattro Deseret Muchachos.

Beck's media empire, Romney's money, Flake and McMuffin for office. Romney for potus 2020.

Sounds good on paper, eh?  Fortunately, the people still get a say, which is why Beck's "media empire" is a joke.

[Jazzhead]

Problem is,  guys like Flake, Romney, McMullin and Kasich are heirs to the Goldwater and Kemp traditions,  and that's not where the GOP is at these days. 

The best bet is with an independent run, but as was noted above only if the Dems cooperate and nominate a looney leftist.   

[truth_seeker]

Sounds good on paper, eh?  Fortunately, the people still get a say, which is why Beck's "media empire" is a joke.

In my humble way, I too was trying to make a joke. On serious notes:

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[Jazzhead]

In my humble way, I too was trying to make a joke. On serious notes:

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Agreed, Ted.   

They're called public servants for a reason.   

[truth_seeker]

Professor Victor Davis Hanson on #nevertrump

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[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Only one or two states are not winner take all.  The rest are Winner Take all.  Hillary would have won if we had been Popular Vote wins, and that's a much different argument.

As it is, we have quite a few proportional Convention Delegate rules for the primary anyway.  It's a non-issue for me.  As it is, I'd like the candidates to consider a Presidential Election (Primary and General) as 50 separate elections.  That's what the Founders intended, to prevent having a tiny number of population centers picking the President.  I don't have to tell you how much that would suck.

I am not in favor of scrapping the EC. Not not not not not!

This is GOP primary only. Different issue, different implications.

[Cyber Liberty]

I am not in favor of scrapping the EC. Not not not not not!

This is GOP primary only. Different issue, different implications.

That reminds me of something I'd bet $$$ both of us can agree on 100%:  Republican ONLY Primaries.  No more Rats having a voice in who our candidates are!

[Right_in_Virginia]

But, apparently, not shutting up.

Flake's going to be on an unstoppable free-for-all against the President through January when the new Senate term begins.

[corbe]

  Put your Money where your Mouth is, Jeff.

[Cyber Liberty]

Flake's going to be on an unstoppable free-for-all against the President through January when the new Senate term begins.

I live in AZ.  I look forward to that case of diarrhea of the mouth for a long time to come.  After January.

[Cyber Liberty]

  Put your Money where your Mouth is, Jeff.

Flake needs to man up and stop insisting others do the dirty work.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/03/11/sure-sounds-like-jeff-flakes-running-president/

Sure sounds like Jeff Flake’s running for President
He’s said before that he thinks a conservative probably *will* challenge Trump in 2020 but this may be the first time he’s said a conservative *should* challenge him. And it’s not hard to guess who that challenger is likely to be. The universe of conservatives willing to primary POTUS is small, partly because the, ah, universe of conservatives is small. Within that universe, even hardcore anti-Trumpers like Ben Sasse will decline to jump in knowing that doing so would cost them their jobs. Even Mitt Romney, possibly the right’s most prominent Trump critic, is off the board now that he’s decided to focus on the Senate.

Off the top of my head, the number of conservatives with governing experience, a bit of national name recognition, contempt for Trump, and little to lose by mounting a doomed primary challenge includes Flake, Bob Corker, maaaaaybe Tom Coburn, and that’s it. And of those three, Flake clearly seems most enamored with the idea of a “battle for the soul of the Republican Party.”

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