Pastor says Roy Moore was seeking the 'purity of a young woman'

[Silver Pines]

Stay with emotion, your reasoning is flawed.... not your strong suit.

Natural demarcation. Gods law.

@Fantom

I haven't seen any emotion from @musiclady.  I did see a little smoke coming from your ears a moment ago, though.

Like I said...anytime you want to get arrogant and pound that chest over your male intellect, remember what I said.  Men are easy.  Very easy.   ^-^

[Fantom]

Now I don't know if you're playing the fool because you think it's cute, or you really don't know a single thing about the Bible.

Again......... read up.

(The charge of emotionalism, when I'm citing eternal truth is quite remarkable because you feel like opposing God's laws is again....... remarkable).

But do get back to me with a passage of Scripture that supports your argument that it's OK for men to commit sexual sin.   I'll give you time......

What sexual sin are you talking about? Scripture please.. as you seem to be hanging whatever your argument is upon such.

Let He who cast the first verse ...speak it out.

[bigheadfred]

So we are defining 18 as children?

Only if you insist they are dumb.

[roamer_1]

Nope.   Wrong again.

Same rules, both genders.  GOD's laws.

Sorry bout dat...........

@musiclady

While technically correct, not entirely true. The Father sets special store by virgin daughters. There is a special emphasis there that is not expressed toward males which, oddly enough, probably results in the special exception for female virginity that you see as a double standard, long present in Christendom.

Admittedly, it doesn't justify that double standard per se, but the female sense is held on a higher plane of honor - whence comes nunneries, virgin brides, and etc - There is an added value.

That does not mean that men are not to be chaste, as they should be, But the Biblical emphasis is upon the woman in that regard - there is no denying that.

[bigheadfred]

uh huh

Go back to the beginning.

8. Genesis 2:24-25

    “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.”

Plain as effing day.

[Sanguine]

No, it is pretty much the woman vote giving us the obama's/kennidys of this world. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/28/a-closer-look-at-the-gender-gap-in-presidential-voting/

Has been since suffrage.

Your reference site only gives the breakdown for this election, and as we know this was a highly unusual election.

The picture isn't that simple:

In the 1972 and 1976 elections, there was no difference in candidate support between men and women. Over the last nine presidential elections, however, women have consistently voted for Democratic presidential candidates at higher rates than men. Most recently, in 2012, there was a 10-percentage-point gender gap: 55% of women voted for Democrat Barack Obama over Republican Mitt Romney, compared with 45% of men. The gap in 2012 was little different than it had been in Ronald Reagan’s victory over Jimmy Carter in 1980, when 45% of women and just 36% of men voted for Carter. The size of the gender gap has fluctuated within a relatively narrow range over the past 36 years; on average, women have been 8 percentage points more likely than men to back the Democratic candidate in elections since 1980.

And, you will notice that among men aged 18-49, the majority voted democrat.  It's only us old farts that vote majority R. 

[WingNot]

So.... are we whipping out scripture to see who has the biggest verse?

[Fantom]

Your reference site only gives the breakdown for this election, and as we know this was a highly unusual election.

The picture isn't that simple:

And, you will notice that among men aged 18-49, the majority voted democrat.  It's only us old farts that vote majority R.

It gives this chart.
 

Knough said.

[Sanguine]

It gives this chart.
 

Knough said.

Yes, the part I quoted above covers that time period. 

[DiogenesLamp]

Not bad, speaks to reality. For what little I watched.

Fact is we are Man AND Woman. We are not the same.

Thank God.

That video is profound.   

[WingNot]

 It's only us old farts that vote majority R.

:vote:

[roamer_1]

So we are defining 18 as children?

Heck, man, I'd define 20's and even 30's as children...

In my late 30's early 40's, I'd finally made my mark, and had the dough laying around to build me an awesome truck... And not only was it a sky-jacked ground-pounder, for the first time ever, I made it a thing of beauty... All teal and chrome, with bright yellow points, with 13" of lift and 44's, and a rumble that set off car alarms just driving by....

Around here, such a thing is a guaranteed chick magnet. And here I am, married with 4 kids, and every little honey in town from high school on up, suddenly has me on her radar.

I remember a gal at the feed store, where I'd pulled up alongside the loading dock, where she could just barely lean in my window... And I remember thinking as she gushed at me and made her intentions all too clear, how she was just a kid late 20's, maybe early 30's at the most...

So yeah, it's relative, I guess.

[Fantom]

So.... are we whipping out scripture to see who has the biggest verse?

   Would seem that is the callout....    I am not just Sola Scriptura though. I am Catholic, so I hold deeds as well.

Which is why my first point was that God impregnated a 12-14 year old virgin. And the Natural demarcation between the sexes.

However, should @musiclady  wish to pursue this angle, should be interesting.... maybe. Waiting on the first verse thrower, to cast one.

[Fantom]

Heck, man, I'd define 20's and even 30's as children...

In my late 30's early 40's, I'd finally made my mark, and had the dough laying around to build me an awesome truck... And not only was it a sky-jacked ground-pounder, for the first time ever, I made it a thing of beauty... All teal and chrome, with bright yellow points, with 13" of lift and 44's, and a rumble that set off car alarms just driving by....

Around here, such a thing is a guaranteed chick magnet. And here I am, married with 4 kids, and every little honey in town from high school on up, suddenly has me on her radar.

I remember a gal at the feed store, where I'd pulled up alongside the loading dock, where she could just barely lean in my window... And I remember thinking as she gushed at me and made her intentions all too clear, how she was just a kid late 20's, maybe early 30's at the most...

So yeah, it's relative, I guess.

Right, I am 56, cannot see being with anyone younger than 40. At least not for anything permanent.

Now in my younger years, Spokane ... there were these three girls.. 19, 20, 22... I was 30. Two sisters in that group. Lets just say.. what a night... "Bless me Father for I have sinned"....

[Sanguine]

   Would seem that is the callout....    I am not just Sola Scriptura though. I am Catholic, so I hold deeds as well.

Which is why my first point was that God impregnated a 12-14 year old virgin. And the Natural demarcation between the sexes.

However, should @musiclady  wish to pursue this angle, should be interesting.... maybe. Waiting on the first verse thrower, to cast one.

We really don't know how old Mary was.  And, I'm not sure "impregnated" is the correct word. 

But, I found this an interesting explanation:

Liberal thinkers try to say that young girls were married off at extremely young ages in Bible times (like the age you were told, 14), but we do not see that at all as the general rule in Bible times. God Himself set the age of being accountable for life decisions at 20 years old.  Numbers 14:28-30 says, "Say unto them, As truly as I live, saith the LORD, as ye have spoken in mine ears, so will I do to you: Your carcases shall fall in this wilderness; and all that were numbered of you, according to your whole number, from twenty years old and upward, which have murmured against me, Doubtless ye shall not come into the land, concerning which I sware to make you dwell therein, save Caleb the son of Jephunneh, and Joshua the son of Nun."   Maybe that is why Jacob was willing to work 7 years for Rachel's hand in marriage, because she had not quite reached 20 years old, yet. We do not know, because it does not say. Genesis 29:18 says, "And Jacob loved Rachel; and said, I will serve thee seven years for Rachel thy younger daughter."...

http://www.libertygospeltracts.com/question/prequest/josephmaryages.htm

[Smokin Joe]

Have you talked to any 14, 15, 16 year-olds lately?  Purity is so last century.

I have a 18 year old grand daughter and 15 year old grandson we raised, along with their older siblings and cousins (13 in all). My oldest great grandchild is rapidly approaching puberty. would venture to guess that there are 15 year old "children" out there who have had a variety of sexual situations and experiences that would rival or surpass the acts of any adult on this board, just from conversations between 'kids' I have overheard.

I'm not saying that is a good thing, either.

[Sanguine]

I have a 18 year old grand daughter and 15 year old grandson we raised, along with their older siblings and cousins (13 in all). My oldest great grandchild is rapidly approaching puberty. would venture to guess that there are 15 year old "children" out there who have had a variety of sexual situations and experiences that would rival or surpass the acts of any adult on this board, just from conversations between 'kids' I have overheard.

I'm not saying that is a good thing, either.

No, I'm not saying it's a good thing either.

[Fantom]

Yes, the part I quoted above covers that time period.

The visual does add some clarity, would you not say? Not that you were trying to obfuscate or anything. 

[bigheadfred]

We really don't know how old Mary was.  And, I'm not sure "impregnated" is the correct word. 

It doesn't matter. And it is the right word.

[Sanguine]

The visual does add some clarity, would you not say? Not that you were trying to obfuscate or anything. 

Only for those of us who need a picture drawn to understand the data.   

[Fantom]

We really don't know how old Mary was.  And, I'm not sure "impregnated" is the correct word. 

But, I found this an interesting explanation:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+14%3A28-30&version=NIV

Your passage has nothing to do with sexual mores. It deals with those who spaek against God.

[Fantom]

Only for those of us who need a picture drawn to understand the data.   

Something about a thousand words.

I am glad you agree that the data reveals just which gender elects socialist/democrats.

[Fantom]

It doesn't matter. And it is the right word.

Right!

[Sanguine]

It doesn't matter. And it is the right word.

Now, I'm not an expert on Mary by any means, but I get the impression that, in today's terms, none of her DNA was used.  Jesus was the Son of God and fully God.  So, I do question that term.

Additionally, according to some Catholic girls I ran around with in high school, Mary was a perpetual virgin, implying that she was not impregnated, but her womb used.  OK, it's making me dizzy, I'd rather argue angels on heads of pins.

[Sanguine]

Something about a thousand words.

I am glad you agree that the data reveals just which gender elects socialist/democrats.

It's numbers, not words.

And, no, we don't agree.