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A former colleague of GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore said Saturday that it was "common knowledge" that the Alabama Republican dated high school girls when he worked in the Etowah County District Attorney's Office in the 1980s.


In a statement to CNN, Teresa Jones, who served as deputy district attorney for Etowah County, Ala., from 1982 until 1985, said that multiple people thought it was unusual that Moore dated high school girls, but that no one ever raised the matter with him.


"It was common knowledge that Roy Moore dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird," Jones told CNN. "We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall ... but you really wouldn't say anything to someone like that."


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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 11:45:23 pm »
So fu**ing what?  I'm tired of this bullshit.  You know a 19-year-old is a "teenager" right?
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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2017, 12:26:18 am »
So fu**ing what?  I'm tired of this bullshit.  You know a 19-year-old is a "teenager" right?

Yeah, but she's under the old "Half your age, plus 7" rule once he's past 24.



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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 12:37:35 am »
I still don't buy these stories because I have yet to see any tangible proof.

But let's say this particular story is true. What is the age of consent in Alabama?  16? 18?  ???    If these "high school girls" were legal age, then technically, there is no violation of the law. 

Another thing:  Roy Moore is 70 or so now.  He would have been in his 30s back in the 1980s?  In the era between the 1960s and the 1980s,  it was free love, anything goes, sex, drugs and rock n roll.  I know.  In the 1980s I worked at a law firm where the lawyers spent more time chasing skirts and snorting coke at Studio 54 wannabe watering holes than they did practicing law.  A lot of ordinarily decent people were caught up in the debauchery back then.  Most didn't quit till AIDS came along and scared the [expletive] out of them.  Once in a while, I will run into someone from that firm.  Today they are exemplary and loving parents and grandparents, pillars of their community  and active in their church.   

People do change -- often for the better.  Some are forced to do so.  Others finally wake up and realize their way of life is doing them more harm than good.  If these incidents did occur, they happened years ago.  Unless there is a violation of the law and Judge Moore can be prosecuted , maybe it's time to forgive and move on. 

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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2017, 12:46:53 am »
I still don't buy these stories because I have yet to see any tangible proof.

But let's say this particular story is true. What is the age of consent in Alabama?  16? 18?  ???    If these "high school girls" were legal age, then technically, there is no violation of the law. 

Another thing:  Roy Moore is 70 or so now.  He would have been in his 30s back in the 1980s?  In the era between the 1960s and the 1980s,  it was free love, anything goes, sex, drugs and rock n roll.  I know.  In the 1980s I worked at a law firm where the lawyers spent more time chasing skirts and snorting coke at Studio 54 wannabe watering holes than they did practicing law.  A lot of ordinarily decent people were caught up in the debauchery back then.  Most didn't quit till AIDS came along and scared the [expletive] out of them.  Once in a while, I will run into someone from that firm.  Today they are exemplary and loving parents and grandparents, pillars of their community  and active in their church.   

People do change -- often for the better.  Some are forced to do so.  Others finally wake up and realize their way of life is doing them more harm than good.  If these incidents did occur, they happened years ago.  Unless there is a violation of the law and Judge Moore can be prosecuted , maybe it's time to forgive and move on.

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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2017, 12:46:53 am »
So I guess it is OK to support a Stranger Danger like Roy Moore just as long he is a "Conservative"..  Far as I'm concern he is a zealot and a hypocritical one as well.  He reminds me of Jimmy Swaggert. 
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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2017, 12:53:28 am »
I still don't buy these stories because I have yet to see any tangible proof.

But let's say this particular story is true. What is the age of consent in Alabama?  16? 18?  ???    If these "high school girls" were legal age, then technically, there is no violation of the law. 

Another thing:  Roy Moore is 70 or so now.  He would have been in his 30s back in the 1980s?  In the era between the 1960s and the 1980s,  it was free love, anything goes, sex, drugs and rock n roll.  I know.  In the 1980s I worked at a law firm where the lawyers spent more time chasing skirts and snorting coke at Studio 54 wannabe watering holes than they did practicing law.  A lot of ordinarily decent people were caught up in the debauchery back then.  Most didn't quit till AIDS came along and scared the [expletive] out of them.  Once in a while, I will run into someone from that firm.  Today they are exemplary and loving parents and grandparents, pillars of their community  and active in their church.   

People do change -- often for the better.  Some are forced to do so.  Others finally wake up and realize their way of life is doing them more harm than good.  If these incidents did occur, they happened years ago.  Unless there is a violation of the law and Judge Moore can be prosecuted , maybe it's time to forgive and move on.


But if it was Dem who was running for office who dated High school age kids 30 years ago, you will not be forgiving. You will be screaming bloody murder.
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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2017, 12:59:29 am »
So I guess it is OK to support a Stranger Danger like Roy Moore just as long he is a "Conservative"..  Far as I'm concern he is a zealot and a hypocritical one as well.  He reminds me of Jimmy Swaggert.

All mouthed with nothing more than hearsay evidence in the court of public opinion.
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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2017, 01:12:48 am »

But if it was Dem who was running for office who dated High school age kids 30 years ago, you will not be forgiving. You will be screaming bloody murder.

Well, I don't vote for Dems under any circumstances, so I'm not sure that's a good analogy. 

But I believe, first of all, in innocent until proven guilty (and so far, there is no tangible proof of guilt that I know of) and secondly, if he did date high school girls years ago, but has stopped for all these years, then I believe in forgiveness.  Those shenanigans have no bearing on the man he is now.

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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2017, 01:13:19 am »
A former colleague of GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore said Saturday that it was "common knowledge" that the Alabama Republican dated high school girls when he worked in the Etowah County District Attorney's Office in the 1980s.


In a statement to CNN, Teresa Jones, who served as deputy district attorney for Etowah County, Ala., from 1982 until 1985, said that multiple people thought it was unusual that Moore dated high school girls, but that no one ever raised the matter with him.


"It was common knowledge that Roy Moore dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird," Jones told CNN. "We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall ... but you really wouldn't say anything to someone like that."


Read More: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/359939-former-moore-colleague-common-knowledge-that-he-dated-teen


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Odd.... that "everyone knew".... but only after 30 years or so, did anyone bother to mention it.   If it was really common knowledge, it would have been brought up and brought out already.  Like... during that Ten Commandments fiasco.


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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2017, 01:13:35 am »
A former colleague of GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore said Saturday that it was "common knowledge" that the Alabama Republican dated high school girls when he worked in the Etowah County District Attorney's Office in the 1980s.


In a statement to CNN, Teresa Jones, who served as deputy district attorney for Etowah County, Ala., from 1982 until 1985, said that multiple people thought it was unusual that Moore dated high school girls, but that no one ever raised the matter with him.


"It was common knowledge that Roy Moore dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird," Jones told CNN. "We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall ... but you really wouldn't say anything to someone like that."


Read More: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/359939-former-moore-colleague-common-knowledge-that-he-dated-teen


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Nice water cooler gossip from 40 years ago, but being that we're in a US Senate race, it's going to take more than that to make a case.
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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2017, 01:15:12 am »

But if it was Dem who was running for office who dated High school age kids 30 years ago, you will not be forgiving. You will be screaming bloody murder.

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Regardless of which side you're on, it's all about the tribe. Republicans hate Democrats and Democrats hate Republicans.  Libertarians are hated by both.

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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2017, 01:17:23 am »
All mouthed with nothing more than hearsay evidence in the court of public opinion.
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2017, 01:18:41 am »
Odd.... that "everyone knew".... but only after 30 years or so, did anyone bother to mention it.   If it was really common knowledge, it would have been brought up and brought out already.  Like... during that Ten Commandments fiasco.

Amazing isn't it? Let's talk about the culpability of all those possessing this 'common knowledge' that did nothing to stop a pedophile predator in his tracks at the time.

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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2017, 01:19:08 am »
It's all public opinion at this point.

That's the problem.

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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2017, 01:51:29 am »
So I guess it is OK to support a Stranger Danger like Roy Moore just as long he is a "Conservative"..  Far as I'm concern he is a zealot and a hypocritical one as well.  He reminds me of Jimmy Swaggert.

I think it's okay to support Moore at this point, since there are only allegations.

I think it's okay to question said allegations and the motives/timing behind them.  In fact, I think it's critical that someone does, since the media sure won't (unless he was a Dem).

I think it's okay not to support Moore at this point, based on your feelings about these allegations or any other reasons.

I hope that people will judge the allegations against him on the facts we get to see and decide from there, not judge the allegations based on their prior position on Moore.

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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2017, 02:37:53 pm »
I still don't buy these stories because I have yet to see any tangible proof.

But let's say this particular story is true. What is the age of consent in Alabama?  16? 18?  ???    If these "high school girls" were legal age, then technically, there is no violation of the law. 

Another thing:  Roy Moore is 70 or so now.  He would have been in his 30s back in the 1980s?  In the era between the 1960s and the 1980s,  it was free love, anything goes, sex, drugs and rock n roll.  I know.  In the 1980s I worked at a law firm where the lawyers spent more time chasing skirts and snorting coke at Studio 54 wannabe watering holes than they did practicing law.  A lot of ordinarily decent people were caught up in the debauchery back then.  Most didn't quit till AIDS came along and scared the [expletive] out of them.  Once in a while, I will run into someone from that firm.  Today they are exemplary and loving parents and grandparents, pillars of their community  and active in their church.   

People do change -- often for the better.  Some are forced to do so.  Others finally wake up and realize their way of life is doing them more harm than good.  If these incidents did occur, they happened years ago.  Unless there is a violation of the law and Judge Moore can be prosecuted , maybe it's time to forgive and move on.

It's not about forgiving and forgetting in this case.

It's about losing an election.

We see stories that people in Alabama are standing by Moore, there is also a story that the race is already virtually tied up per polls. What if it is actually statistically a tie? From here, it looks like it is going to get worse.

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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2017, 02:57:31 pm »
So I guess it is OK to support a Stranger Danger like Roy Moore just as long he is a "Conservative"..  Far as I'm concern he is a zealot and a hypocritical one as well.  He reminds me of Jimmy Swaggert.

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Let me fill you in on a few details you are either completely unaware of or simply conveniently ignore because it suits your punk ass to do so! 

Roy Moore was born in February of 1947 and graduated HS with his class in 1965 at the age of 18. From there he went directly to the United States Military Academy at West Point New York from which he graduated with his class in 1969 at the age of 22. You cannot be married or ever have been married and attend the Academy and that is true to this very day!  He then served in the U.S. Army with distinction, including a tour in Vietnam the prospect of which would likely have prevented him from any consideration of marriage. He was discharged from the United States Army as a captain in 1974 at age 27.

How many of the girls that he went to HS with do you imagine were still avalible for him to date by that time?

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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2017, 03:02:10 pm »
It's not about forgiving and forgetting in this case.

It's about losing an election.

We see stories that people in Alabama are standing by Moore, there is also a story that the race is already virtually tied up per polls. What if it is actually statistically a tie? From here, it looks like it is going to get worse.

There are two issues here:  Whether Alabama voters actually believe these allegations, and, if they are true, whether so much time has elapsed that they have no bearing in the quality of the candidate today and the people would be willing to relegate any bad behavior to the past and vote for today's Roy Moore.  Both have significant impact on how voters will vote and whether Republicans will win or lose that seat.

No one can really say for sure what's on the minds of Alabama voters, especially the pollsters who, like many of us have never been to Alabama before.  Oh, they can ask their leading questions, thinking Alabama voters are all a bunch of country bumpkins who will give the pollsters the unfavoranle answers these pollsters are looking for.  Maybe they will tell the pollsters what they want to hear, but then vote the opposite.  That vote on election day is the only  "poll" that really counts.

But if Moore loses and the Dems take Alabama's senate seat, there is plenty of blame to go around.  A goodly chunk will fall to the Republican party itself which may actually be willing to let the Dems take the senate seat because they are still pizzed that their establishment candidate lost to Moore.  Who knows?  Maybe these allegations against  Moore came from Republican operatives, not Democrats. But regardless of who is behind these allegations, the Republican party will bear the blame for Moore's defeat because they abandoned him and let him hang out to dry instead of giving him their support.  Why did they not demand real proof of these allegations?

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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2017, 03:05:26 pm »

But if it was Dem who was running for office who dated High school age kids 30 years ago, you will not be forgiving. You will be screaming bloody murder.

A 17/18 year old female is an ADULT woman. If she did not want to go on a date
she could have said no.

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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2017, 03:15:33 pm »
There are two issues here:  Whether Alabama voters actually believe these allegations, and, if they are true, whether so much time has elapsed that they have no bearing in the quality of the candidate today and the people would be willing to relegate any bad behavior to the past and vote for today's Roy Moore.  Both have significant impact on how voters will vote and whether Republicans will win or lose that seat.

No one can really say for sure what's on the minds of Alabama voters, especially the pollsters who, like many of us have never been to Alabama before.  Oh, they can ask their leading questions, thinking Alabama voters are all a bunch of country bumpkins who will give the pollsters the unfavoranle answers these pollsters are looking for.  Maybe they will tell the pollsters what they want to hear, but then vote the opposite.  That vote on election day is the only  "poll" that really counts.

But if Moore loses and the Dems take Alabama's senate seat, there is plenty of blame to go around.  A goodly chunk will fall to the Republican party itself which may actually be willing to let the Dems take the senate seat because they are still pizzed that their establishment candidate lost to Moore.  Who knows?  Maybe these allegations against  Moore came from Republican operatives, not Democrats. But regardless of who is behind these allegations, the Republican party will bear the blame for Moore's defeat because they abandoned him and let him hang out to dry instead of giving him their support.  Why did they not demand real proof of these allegations?

As said, a lot of your questions are answered in the Hannity interview and as I read in one article, Moore could not have had a more friendly interviewer than Sean Hannity.

Even if one discounts the 14 year old's story which I am, there are other questions.  The scenario itself is now suspicious.

"Oh, Moore did not do this with the 14 year old but he doesn't deny pursuing high school girls" That doesn't wash well.

And as another post suggest, I guess one could say that Moore went to West Point, then served and then, came home at 27 years old and because of the time away, decided to pursue girls in highschool. I suppose. A  lot of people would possibly, try to find females elsewhere, such as a church or something.

Per Roy Moore's words "I dated a lot of women", so it doesn't sound like the "women over 20 are in short supply" line isn't necessarily true.

I was for Moore until the Hannity interview. I think he came off real bad in it. But it is a month until the election, so we all have the prerogative to change our minds over and again.

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Re: Former Moore colleague: 'Common knowledge' that he dated high school girls
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2017, 03:17:24 pm »
@kevindavis

Let me fill you in on a few details you are either completely unaware of or simply conveniently ignore because it suits your punk ass to do so! 

Roy Moore was born in February of 1947 and graduated HS with his class in 1965 at the age of 18. From there he wend directly to the United States Military Academy at West Point New York from which he graduated with his class in 1969 at the age of 22. You cannot be married or ever have been married and attend the Academy and that is true to this very day!  He then served in the U.S. Army with distinction, including a tour in Vietnam the prospect of which would likely have prevented him from any consideration of marriage, and was discharged from the United States Army as a captain in 1974 at age 27.

How many of the girls that he wet to HS with in his home town do you imagine were still avalible for him to date by that time?

YOU have absolutely NO concept of HONOR!

Again, per Roy Moore's own words in the Hannity interview, "I dated a lot of women"; that's a pretty open statement and he would not "deny" some could have been teenagers but he doesn't remember that. That kind of calls into question the "females over 20 are in short supply" argument.

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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2017, 03:41:08 pm »
Again, per Roy Moore's own words in the Hannity interview, "I dated a lot of women"; that's a pretty open statement and he would not "deny" some could have been teenagers but he doesn't remember that. That kind of calls into question the "females over 20 are in short supply" argument.

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Let's do the any female 17 or older is an ADULT female and free to date whoever she
wants argument and throw in the Moore was a gentleman and asked the parents for
permissions to date their daughter argument.

Please tell me that is wrong with an adult male dating an adult female with the permission
of said females' relatives.  Todays' snow flake cultural norms are not the cultural norm of
1970s rural American.