In Alabama, Trump Attempts to Sell the Idea of a Transparent Wall

[Concerned]

I think he's a lot smarter, or perhaps shrewder, than most people, especially the media think (or he's got great advisors).  He's going to be attacked and ridiculed anyway, at least he's (for the most part) controlling the subject matter.

I could be wrong.  Maybe he's a dumbask who's just getting really lucky.  I think it's more likely he's gotten to where he is by stealth.  We may never know, but that's my opinion, for what it's not worth.

@InHeavenThereIsNoBeer

I think you’re right that controlling the narrative is a huge part of it, but when he controls the narrative on such controversial things as Charlottesville, 3M-5M illegals voting, Obama “wiretapping” him, and NFL players protesting, is it really in his best interest?  Does it increase the 46% who voted for him or instead does it energize some on the other side who may not have voted in 2020 but now will?   I think this apparent desire to control the narrative is ultimately working against him.  I certainly can’t see how it’s increasing his voting base.  I expect to see another dip in his approval ratings after it was ticking upwards.  Yet another self-inflicted wound I’m afraid.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

@InHeavenThereIsNoBeer

I think you’re right that controlling the narrative is a huge part of it, but when he controls the narrative on such controversial things as Charlottesville, 3M-5M illegals voting, Obama “wiretapping” him, and NFL players protesting, is it really in his best interest?  Does it increase the 46% who voted for him or instead does it energize some on the other side who may not have voted in 2020 but now will?   I think this apparent desire to control the narrative is ultimately working against him.  I certainly can’t see how it’s increasing his voting base.  I expect to see another dip in his approval ratings after it was ticking upwards.  Yet another self-inflicted wound I’m afraid.

@Concerned

Sunday Night Football viewership was off 8-10% (w/w vs y/y IIRC) last night.   I trust that metric more than approval ratings from agencies which aren't always the most non-partisan.  I think a lot of people are going to look at his comments on the protests and the NFL's reaction and decide that he's the one who is right(/sane).

Heck, if he keeps it up, I might just vote for him.

[Silver Pines]

The headline is typical of the condescension from Red State; a transparent border wall is the only way to go, that's been well reported on. You have to be able to see through it according to a number of experts but Never Trump websites like RS will say this.

I will make sure this kind of propaganda is challenged back to cheerleading red state.

@TomSea

How about Breitbart?  Are they still a trusted source, or in light of recent events, are they now on the verboten list?

[Emjay]

It's a decent opinion but not sure you're right.

I think he has a bit of a split personality.  His problems seem to come to the fore in the middle of the night.  He's never been able to sleep well.  On TOS they used to brag about Trump only needed 3 or 4 hours sleep, as though it was a good thing.

It's not a good thing and it can interfere with sane thinking.  Those tweets all seem to come out in the wee hours of the morning.

[DiogenesLamp]

@InHeavenThereIsNoBeer

I think you’re right that controlling the narrative is a huge part of it, but when he controls the narrative on such controversial things as Charlottesville, 3M-5M illegals voting, Obama “wiretapping” him, and NFL players protesting, is it really in his best interest?  Does it increase the 46% who voted for him or instead does it energize some on the other side who may not have voted in 2020 but now will?   I think this apparent desire to control the narrative is ultimately working against him.  I certainly can’t see how it’s increasing his voting base.  I expect to see another dip in his approval ratings after it was ticking upwards.  Yet another self-inflicted wound I’m afraid.

Democrat/Media inflicted wound.   

[DiogenesLamp]

@Concerned

Sunday Night Football viewership was off 8-10% (w/w vs y/y IIRC) last night.   I trust that metric more than approval ratings from agencies which aren't always the most non-partisan.  I think a lot of people are going to look at his comments on the protests and the NFL's reaction and decide that he's the one who is right(/sane).

The NFL has chosen the position that America is Racist,  and deserves to have their national anthem protested.   Now they have to protest it.   To stop protesting it will be seen as capitulating.  It will be seen as admitting they were wrong to do it in the first place. 

If they continue to protest it,  it will make people increasingly angry at them,  because people don't tune in to football games to hear how nasty is their country,  they do so to be entertained. 


The NFL has foolishly chosen a lose/lose position,  where whatever they do will either be seen as either capitulating on their principles,  or expressing hatred of America.   


They cannot make a right move from this point forward.  Any direction they go is a trap. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Wow.  This is still going on.  Must really be a slow news day.   

[Silver Pines]

Trying to figure out why someone would ping me to say that it's okay to sneer at Trump and besides, it's fun.

It may be fun and okay but it is also the 'in' thing to do among a lot of people who lack perspective.

The absolute worst thing about Trump is his tweeting wherein he gives ammo to his haters.  If only he wouldn't tweet.  Also, his tweets only reflect whatever current annoyance is on his mind. 

There is nothing whatsoever to be gained by sneering and snarking at Trump.  Everybody's doing it, though, so it must be okay.

Whatever negatives there are about Trump are covered fully by the MSM every day and every hour.

He does have goals that are things we want ... He's not a smart guy and he hasn't been able to realize those goals yet but at least he has them.

Clinton was a serial rapist and even had sex with someone in the Oval Office.  Even he did not get this treatment from the press.  I guess it wasn't 'fun' at the time.

Obama is a racist, socialist who was intent on destroying this country.  He got nothing but praise from the press ... must not have been 'fun' to criticize him.

Trump is not a rapist or a socialist ... but he is an easy target. 

So, let's all have 'fun.'

@Emjay, lighten up.  Trump is making it clear the wall isn't going to happen, unless renovated fences really do qualify, and in most people's minds, I imagine that isn't the case.  He isn't Mother Theresa and he doesn't deserve to be treated with kid gloves. 

Having goals means nothing unless they're realized.   In Trump's case, at least some of those goals were empty promises. 

[aligncare]

I think he's a lot smarter, or perhaps shrewder, than most people, especially the media think (or he's got great advisors).  He's going to be attacked and ridiculed anyway, at least he's (for the most part) controlling the subject matter.

I could be wrong.  Maybe he's a dumbask who's just getting really lucky.  I think it's more likely he's gotten to where he is by stealth.  We may never know, but that's my opinion, for what it's not worth.

In the 40 years that Donald Trump has been a worldwide name, and among the thousands of people Trump has interacted with in his many roles and long career as a builder, I doubt any have said that about Trump. More likely they thought, watch out for this guy he’s smart and he’s shrewd, as you first suggested.

Of course after getting into politics came the inevitable mudslinging and his transformation into Hitler, Stalin and Darth Vader combined. And, in addition to being an evil genius, from listening to his critics, you’d think that Trump is dumb and stumbled into his billion dollar empire. You know, the guy doesn’t even read, much less know what’s in the constitution...right? Funny, but in all the years before politics, no one ever accused Trump of being a racist.

But Trump knows how to build a wall – as well as what’s in the constitution. His company built a million walls. And I think millions of non political people as well as his political base see exactly where Trump stands on issues important to them and wholeheartedly support his agenda and what he says in his tweets.

[jpsb]

@jpsb I want a President who aspires to earn respect

Bla bla bla, this president fights!

[kevindavis007]

@CatherineofAragon they won't even admit when Trump gets fair treatment from the ones they've smeared with the NT label here.  Can't expect any of them to actually take the effort to click a link now can we?

@CatherineofAragon
@txradioguy


I truly fear for the future of the Conservative movement.

[Concerned]

Bla bla bla, this president fights!

If an impulsive "fighter" is enough for you, fair enough.  I'd rather have a creative problem solver who figures out how to grow his voting base, who strives to earn respect from beyond just his base, and who figures out a way to institutionalize his policies into law.

[DB]

Bla bla bla, this president fights!

Fighters with no aim just break things.

[Emjay]

I never believed there would be a wall but I did and do hope there will be much better border security.

Obama really decimated the border patrol people.  They were disarmed and disheartened because they were handcuffed in their efforts.

Obama put us in a black hole (no pun intended) about border security.  He did not care about it at all.

I think that is being remedied to some extent and that's a good thing.

so, please, people, I am light as a feather, almost to the point of floating so I don't need to lighten up.

[txradioguy]

@CatherineofAragon
@txradioguy


I truly fear for the future of the Conservative movement.

You and me both.

[Emjay]

You and me both.

I think there's a cry room in the church.  Why don't y'all head over there?

[txradioguy]

I think there's a cry room in the church.  Why don't y'all head over there?

How about you drop your sad imitation of RiV.

[Right_in_Virginia]

How about you drop your sad imitation of RiV.

How about you get a damn life @txradioguy

[aligncare]

How about you get a damn life @txradioguy

Because his life is turned upside down by that big, bad Donald Trump. I’m sure once Donald Trump is impeached and gone from the White House he’ll be all better.

[Emjay]

How about you drop your sad imitation of RiV.

Oh, don't even start with me.  You know perfectly well I'm not a Trump devotee and he infuriates me daily.

But you and some of your fellow whiners infuriate me also.

You're so whiny and downbeat and you have fun in dissing Trump while offering no solutions at all.

The country is still conservative ... I see it in my e-mails; I see it in person and I see it on my Facebook page.

The mere fact that Roy Moore is leading in Alabama should tell you something about that.

Yes, 8 years of Obama put us in a black hole and we can't leap out, we have to climb out.

And you defeatists crying because we're not climbing fast enough sometimes just gets on my nerves to the point that I have to make a snarky comment.

I'm usually a nicer person than that and I apologize.

[Silver Pines]

@InHeavenThereIsNoBeer

I think you’re right that controlling the narrative is a huge part of it, but when he controls the narrative on such controversial things as Charlottesville, 3M-5M illegals voting, Obama “wiretapping” him, and NFL players protesting, is it really in his best interest?  Does it increase the 46% who voted for him or instead does it energize some on the other side who may not have voted in 2020 but now will?   I think this apparent desire to control the narrative is ultimately working against him.  I certainly can’t see how it’s increasing his voting base.  I expect to see another dip in his approval ratings after it was ticking upwards.  Yet another self-inflicted wound I’m afraid.

@Concerned

I don't think it's a desire to control the narrative at all.  Trump wanted to distract from his backpedal on the wall and on immigration, so he went to Twitter and threw out some red meat.  He does it every time he screws up.

[Silver Pines]

@CatherineofAragon
@txradioguy


I truly fear for the future of the Conservative movement.

@kevindavis
@txradioguy

I think it's pretty much done, at least for now.  It isn't about policy or thought; it's about making " 'splodey heads 'splode", as a moron once said. 

[Silver Pines]

I think there's a cry room in the church.  Why don't y'all head over there?

@Emjay

Can we classify that as snark?  I think we can.

[aligncare]

@Emjay

Can we classify that as snark?  I think we can.

No, please don’t tell me snark is forbidden. Then I, along with Frank and half of our members, would have nothing to say.

[Emjay]

No, please don’t tell me snark is forbidden. Then I, along with Frank and half of our members, would have nothing to say.

Yeah, don't forbid snark.  It's fun.

However, I choose to stick to fact-based posts that offend nobody.