In Alabama, Trump Attempts to Sell the Idea of a Transparent Wall

[Silver Pines]

SHAPIRO: I Will Never Vote For Donald Trump. Here's Why.

@CatherineofAragon someone that publicly and sincerely declares they will "never vote for Donald Trump" is ................ wait for it ............ A NeverTrumper.  Dud.

@jpsb, like I said, he was NeverTrump before the election.  After it was over, he wrote an editorial in which he said NT was done and he intended to give Trump a chance.

Do you not get that?

[jpsb]

@jpsb, like I said, he was NeverTrump before the election.  After it was over, he wrote an editorial in which he said NT was done and he intended to give Trump a chance.

Do you not get that?

Oh I get just like you are willing to give Trump a chance. /s

NeverTrumpers saying they are willing to give Trump a chance are just sorry they made themselves irrelevant in politics and are trying desperately to make themselves relivant again.
I seriously doubt any are sincere.

[txradioguy]

Oh I get just like you are willing to give Trump a chance. /s

She has when she felt it was deserved.  As have a lot of us here.

Not that a Trump apologist who never finds fault with anything he does would ever admit that fact.

[Silver Pines]

Spoken like a true Trump apologist.

@txradioguy

The thing is, they could easily visit Shapiro's site/Twitter, or Erickson's, and find fair treatment of Trump right there in black and white.  But they refuse to do so because it would interfere with their narrative. 

The right has essentially become allergic to facts.

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy

The thing is, they could easily visit Shapiro's site/Twitter, or Erickson's, and find fair treatment of Trump right there in black and white.  But they refuse to do so because it would interfere with their narrative. 

The right has essentially become allergic to facts.

@CatherineofAragon they won't even admit when Trump gets fair treatment from the ones they've smeared with the NT label here.  Can't expect any of them to actually take the effort to click a link now can we?

[jpsb]

She has when she felt it was deserved.  As have a lot of us here.

Not that a Trump apologist who never finds fault with anything he does would ever admit that fact.

I find it touching how all you poor misunderstood NeverTrumper stick together.

[jpsb]

Erickson is a disgusting human being. I will never click on any site that employs or publishes Erickson. Shapiro just a lying hypocrite so I will occasionally read his stuff.

[Silver Pines]

Oh I get just like you are willing to give Trump a chance. /s

NeverTrumpers saying they are willing to give Trump a chance are just sorry they made themselves irrelevant in politics and are trying desperately to make themselves relivant again.
I seriously doubt any are sincere.

@jpsb

That's right, like me.  For example, the post I made recently saying that he looked like he really enjoyed helping the people who were flooded out by the hurricane, and that he came across as truly genuine.  But you want to keep screeching "NeverTrumper", so knock yourself out.

[TomSea]

The headline is typical of the condescension from Red State; a transparent border wall is the only way to go, that's been well reported on. You have to be able to see through it according to a number of experts but Never Trump websites like RS will say this.

I will make sure this kind of propaganda is challenged back to cheerleading red state.

[txradioguy]

The headline is typical of the condescension from Red State; a transparent border wall is the only way to go, that's been well reported on. You have to be able to see through it according to a number of experts but Never Trump websites like RS will say this.

I will make sure this kind of propaganda is challenged back to cheerleading red state.

What is factually inaccurate about the headline?

[Silver Pines]

Erickson is a disgusting human being. I will never click on any site that employs or publishes Erickson. Shapiro just a lying hypocrite so I will occasionally read his stuff.

I don't even know what you were quoting.  It's an empty box.

@jpsb, this morning I find myself almost at the end of patience with this simple-minded TOS-brand absence of thought which labels everyone who disagrees with your god emperor, in any way, as the enemy, a horrible person, etc.  I can feel my IQ dropping.

[Emjay]

Trying to figure out why someone would ping me to say that it's okay to sneer at Trump and besides, it's fun.

It may be fun and okay but it is also the 'in' thing to do among a lot of people who lack perspective.

The absolute worst thing about Trump is his tweeting wherein he gives ammo to his haters.  If only he wouldn't tweet.  Also, his tweets only reflect whatever current annoyance is on his mind. 

There is nothing whatsoever to be gained by sneering and snarking at Trump.  Everybody's doing it, though, so it must be okay.

Whatever negatives there are about Trump are covered fully by the MSM every day and every hour.

He does have goals that are things we want ... He's not a smart guy and he hasn't been able to realize those goals yet but at least he has them.

Clinton was a serial rapist and even had sex with someone in the Oval Office.  Even he did not get this treatment from the press.  I guess it wasn't 'fun' at the time.

Obama is a racist, socialist who was intent on destroying this country.  He got nothing but praise from the press ... must not have been 'fun' to criticize him.

Trump is not a rapist or a socialist ... but he is an easy target. 

So, let's all have 'fun.'

[Silver Pines]

@CatherineofAragon they won't even admit when Trump gets fair treatment from the ones they've smeared with the NT label here.  Can't expect any of them to actually take the effort to click a link now can we?

@txradioguy

Well, it has to be from an approved source.  Speaking of which, is Breitbart still permissible or are they on the dark side now?

I'm tired of the whole mess...complaints that people never give Trump credit, but when they do, well, that's not really credit.  Cultism can't be reasoned with.

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy

I'm tired of the whole mess...complaints that people never give Trump credit, but when they do, well, that's not really credit.  Cultism can't be reasoned with.

Yeah I'm over it too.

[Emjay]

Yeah I'm over it too.

Good.  Let's hope you are.

I resent the implication ... well, not the implication, the accusation that people don't give NT'ers credit when they applaud Trump for something.

Usual caveat:  I get very annoyed with Trump also but it's not my life's work to bash him.

Why should mostly NT'ers expect credit on those rare occasions when they give faint praise to Trump?  But if I had a gold star handy, I would pin one on y'all.  I won't need many gold stars so I don't think I'll order a whole bunch from Amazon.

You people hated Trump all during the primary ... and I admit I was among you people on that ... but that's over till the next primary.

  I find Trump annoying a lot of times.  He changes positions.  He tweets.

But is there another Republican president waiting in the wings that I don't know about.

Trump will be president for 3 more years.

He has done nothing worthy of impeachment so unless he dies from lack of alcohol, I'm looking hard to find the point in joining Obama, Hillary, Hollywood, overpaid NFL players and the MSM in criticizing him every single day.

If someone can 'splain that to me, I'd appreciate it.

[Right_in_Virginia]

The headline is typical of the condescension from Red State; a transparent border wall is the only way to go, that's been well reported on. You have to be able to see through it according to a number of experts but Never Trump websites like RS will say this.

I will make sure this kind of propaganda is challenged back to cheerleading red state.

Good points @TomSea .... The headline does it's best to make the President's statement sound foolish.  But it wasn't.  I posted up thread a link to the President's rally speech for a fuller explanation, even directing readers to the point on the video where the President begins speaking about the wall.

Additional articles about the wall have confirmed the need for "transparency" is coming from border patrol agents.  I would hope their opinions would matter to folks around here ... especially to those who still insist the President doesn't take advice from anyone.

[Emjay]

Y'all are like disgruntled employees sitting around the break room griping about the boss.

It's pointless, but maybe satisfying in a small way.

Y'all need to examine your options.

Is there a better job you can get?

Would you rather live on the street?

We have no real options right now other than to hope with all our hearts that Trump manages to do some of the things he promised.

He gets distracted over petty criticisms which is, admittedly petty, but I prefer to give him a little respect right now and hope he rights the ship.

[Concerned]

Y'all are like disgruntled employees sitting around the break room griping about the boss.

It's pointless, but maybe satisfying in a small way.

Y'all need to examine your options.

Is there a better job you can get?

Would you rather live on the street?

We have no real options right now other than to hope with all our hearts that Trump manages to do some of the things he promised.

He gets distracted over petty criticisms which is, admittedly petty, but I prefer to give him a little respect right now and hope he rights the ship.

People complaining about the President on a message board may be pointless, but it's no less pointless than people on a message board twisting themselves into a pretzel to congratulate or excuse some action by the President (not necessarily talking about you, @Emjay ).  Fortunately, we live in a country where both sides are able to voice their OPINIONS.......pointless or not.   

I believe respect is earned.  I certainly respect the office of the President, but I gotta tell ya the name-calling, the pettiness, the attempts to settle personal grievances, the culture wars, by this President are all truly wearing on me.  He says he can be more Presidential than every President than Lincoln.  Well, with everything going on in the world today, I sure wish he'd start.  Sadly, I just don't think he's capable of doing it.

[jpsb]

People complaining about the President on a message board may be pointless, but it's no less pointless than people on a message board twisting themselves into a pretzel to congratulate or excuse some action by the President (not necessarily talking about you, @Emjay ).  Fortunately, we live in a country where both sides are able to voice their OPINIONS.......pointless or not.   

I believe respect is earned.  I certainly respect the office of the President, but I gotta tell ya the name-calling, the pettiness, the attempts to settle personal grievances, the culture wars, by this President are all truly wearing on me.  He says he can be more Presidential than every President than Lincoln.  Well, with everything going on in the world today, I sure wish he'd start.  Sadly, I just don't think he's capable of doing it.

This poster wants a PC president. I don't.

[Concerned]

This poster wants a PC president. I don't.

@jpsb I want a President who aspires to earn respect through his actions and his words.  I want a President who puts country in front of his own wants and desires.  I want a President focused on leading our country through incredibly dangerous times, and not one focused on trying to settle petty grievances.  If you consider that a PC President, you are entitled to that opinion, but I think you can be non-PC without resorting to childish name-calling.

[aligncare]

The Daily Wire certainly isn't a site that I would consider to be a site for someone such as @Emjay that is looking for middle of the road as opposed to NeverTrump or AlwaysTrump.

I remember those things from a former time. Were called newspapers, with pages of journalism in them. Reporters would write about newsworthy events – the so called ‘hard news’ items – factual stories about what was happening around important events and people, and what the central players were saying about these events. Complete and accurate quotes were essential to a story for readers to understand events.

And readers agreed about a couple of things. They weren’t expecting news to be from a democrat or a republican perspective – they got that from the editorial pages. What they wanted were the facts, not the reporters take on the facts. The readers were then free to process that information and draw their own conclusions – if any conclusions were there to be drawn.

So, what has happened to us?

[Emjay]

People complaining about the President on a message board may be pointless, but it's no less pointless than people on a message board twisting themselves into a pretzel to congratulate or excuse some action by the President (not necessarily talking about you, @Emjay ).  Fortunately, we live in a country where both sides are able to voice their OPINIONS.......pointless or not.   

I believe respect is earned.  I certainly respect the office of the President, but I gotta tell ya the name-calling, the pettiness, the attempts to settle personal grievances, the culture wars, by this President are all truly wearing on me.  He says he can be more Presidential than every President than Lincoln.  Well, with everything going on in the world today, I sure wish he'd start.  Sadly, I just don't think he's capable of doing it.

Very afraid you are right, Concerned.  It's getting harder and harder to stay positive about Trump.

He is killing us and himself with his tweets.  He and his great wife go to troubled areas.  They look good and act potus and scotus.  He gets a kid to mow the lawn at the White House ... great photo op.  He keeps trying to get a travel ban passed.  He's made some great appointments.

But, but, but he is simply incapable of stopping the tweeting and no one seems to be capable of making him stop.

Every single day he shoots himself in the foot with his thumb.

[aligncare]

I love the fact he’s tweeting and I’m glad he has no intentions of listening to the naysayers. It’s been an effective tool and Trump gotta be Trump.

Trump simply taking in air gives his looney enemies ammunition. And if it wasn’t Trump it would have been Cruz giving everybody the vapors.

I’ve never known our leftist media to treat any republican fairly. I chose not to believe the hyper-ventilators in the press.

[Concerned]

Very afraid you are right, Concerned.  It's getting harder and harder to stay positive about Trump.

He is killing us and himself with his tweets.  He and his great wife go to troubled areas.  They look good and act potus and scotus.  He gets a kid to mow the lawn at the White House ... great photo op.  He keeps trying to get a travel ban passed.  He's made some great appointments.

But, but, but he is simply incapable of stopping the tweeting and no one seems to be capable of making him stop.

Every single day he shoots himself in the foot with his thumb.

And not just he and FLOTUS going to troubled areas, but his key cabinet members are actively engaged in the 3 natural disasters his Administration has had to respond to over the past couple of weeks.  This federal response is as well done as any I can remember, and that's all the while balancing 3 of them.  Unfortunately, his tweets and his name calling take the spotlight off that and put it squarely on petty, relatively unimportant crap.  His hard core base may eat this stuff up, but for a President who only garnered 46% of the vote, it certainly doesn't increase his base, and ultimately just isn't in his best interest or in the best interest of the country IMO.  Sad he just can't seem to help himself.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

And not just he and SCOTUS going to troubled areas, but his key cabinet members are actively engaged in the 3 natural disasters his Administration has had to respond to over the past couple of weeks.  This federal response is as well done as any I can remember, and that's all the while balancing 3 of them.  Unfortunately, his tweets and his name calling take the spotlight off that and put it squarely on petty, relatively unimportant crap.  His hard core base may eat this stuff up, but for a President who only garnered 46% of the vote, it certainly doesn't increase his base, and ultimately just isn't in his best interest or in the best interest of the country IMO.  Sad he just can't seem to help himself.

I think he's a lot smarter, or perhaps shrewder, than most people, especially the media think (or he's got great advisors).  He's going to be attacked and ridiculed anyway, at least he's (for the most part) controlling the subject matter.

I could be wrong.  Maybe he's a dumbask who's just getting really lucky.  I think it's more likely he's gotten to where he is by stealth.  We may never know, but that's my opinion, for what it's not worth.