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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #50 on: June 30, 2017, 01:18:04 pm »
Well.... this was just reported an hour ago.  Lets see if anything comes of it before we go off half-cocked, shall we.

The pattern is at least consistent (consistently psycho?).  He does something really stupid/bad (that was yesterday)..... and then he does something we can approve of (supposedly).  Rinse.  Repeat.

I think it's safe to say that both of us would be far more comfortable it he did more of the latter and less of the former LOL!

I just see so many ways he could put some real legitimate pressure on the do nothings like McConnell Cornyn and Company to repeal this thing and stop letting them get away with the excuses to be Dem lite. 

I keep my fingers crossed he cracks the whip on them soon.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2017, 01:20:11 pm »
I think it's safe to say that both of us would be far more comfortable it he did more of the latter and less of the former LOL!

I just see so many ways he could put some real legitimate pressure on the do nothings like McConnell Cornyn and Company to repeal this thing and stop letting them get away with the excuses to be Dem lite. 

I keep my fingers crossed he cracks the whip on them soon.

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2017, 01:26:53 pm »
I think it's safe to say that both of us would be far more comfortable it he did more of the latter and less of the former LOL!

I just see so many ways he could put some real legitimate pressure on the do nothings like McConnell Cornyn and Company to repeal this thing and stop letting them get away with the excuses to be Dem lite. 

I keep my fingers crossed he cracks the whip on them soon.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #53 on: June 30, 2017, 02:09:30 pm »
Unless it's total repeal of this Republican version of Socialized...Government Run Healthcare...nothing will change for the people who ultimately have to pay the increased costs and/or penalties for being healthy and not needing the insurance.

Your stubbornness has crossed the line into stupidity.  There is no total repeal in the cards.  No chance.  Stop sticking your thumbs in your ears and your head up your ass.   
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #54 on: June 30, 2017, 02:12:54 pm »
Your stubbornness has crossed the line into stupidity.

Coming from you that's a compliment.



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There is no total repeal in the cards.  No chance.  Stop sticking your thumbs in your ears and your head up your ass.

I'm not the one that promised it...used it to get people to vote me into or back into office.

I'm not the one that said almost 70 times he'd repeal it on "day one".

What you want is for people to not hold their elected officials accountable or make them true to their word.

Your preference is for them to be malleable to the latest wind change and do what's expedient instead of what's right.

That's the cowards way out.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #55 on: June 30, 2017, 02:32:01 pm »
I want the ACA fixed. I want premiums reduced.  I want the mandates gone.  I want the Medicaid entitlement rolled back to pave the way for tax relief.

You don't want any of those things, not if you cling to your stubborn insistence on total repeal which isn't politically possible.   I am bored to tears at you and those like you who act like petulant children.  Don't dare complain about the ACA - it's fools like you that will keep it firmly in place.   
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2017, 02:36:30 pm »
I want the ACA fixed. I want premiums reduced.  I want the mandates gone.  I want the Medicaid entitlement rolled back to pave the way for tax relief.

There is nothing that can fix what was a flawed and completely wrong piece of legislation in the first place.

The whole thing needs to go away and the sooner the better for the sake of the Country.

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You don't want any of those things, not if you cling to your stubborn insistence on total repeal which isn't politically possible.   I am bored to tears at you and those like you who act like petulant children.  Don't dare complain about the ACA - it's fools like you that will keep it firmly in place.

No one is forcing you to respond or read these threads where we all believe that repeal is the only answer because that's what our elected officials told us they were going to do.

I'm sorry that a dissenting Conservative opinion is so painful for you to have to endure.

Perhaps you'd be more comfortable back over at The Daily Kos with the rest of the Kos Kiddies...they all share your view on this POS legislation.  :seeya:
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #57 on: June 30, 2017, 02:40:14 pm »
There is nothing that can fix what was a flawed and completely wrong piece of legislation in the first place.

The whole thing needs to go away and the sooner the better for the sake of the Country.

No one is forcing you to respond or read these threads where we all believe that repeal is the only answer because that's what our elected officials told us they were going to do.

I'm sorry that a dissenting Conservative opinion is so painful for you to have to endure.

Perhaps you'd be more comfortable back over at The Daily Kos with the rest of the Kos Kiddies...they all share your view on this POS legislation.  :seeya:

Either you believe in free market capitalism or you don't!  It all boils down to that and it is quite apparent to me that many here do not!
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #58 on: June 30, 2017, 02:50:24 pm »
Your stubbornness has crossed the line into stupidity.  There is no total repeal in the cards.  No chance.  Stop sticking your thumbs in your ears and your head up your ass.

There you go again.....

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2017, 02:54:27 pm »
There is nothing that can fix what was a flawed and completely wrong piece of legislation in the first place.

The whole thing needs to go away and the sooner the better for the sake of the Country.

No one is forcing you to respond or read these threads where we all believe that repeal is the only answer because that's what our elected officials told us they were going to do.

I'm sorry that a dissenting Conservative opinion is so painful for you to have to endure.

Perhaps you'd be more comfortable back over at The Daily Kos with the rest of the Kos Kiddies...they all share your view on this POS legislation.  :seeya:

I really think he belongs over at the DemocraticUnderground....

with the rest of his ilk.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2017, 03:04:03 pm »
Either you believe in free market capitalism or you don't!  It all boils down to that and it is quite apparent to me that many here do not!

Sadly too many Republicans have become used to...or willfully embraced Liberalism in their daily life because that's the easy thing to do and requires little thought or effort on their part in their daily lives.

They seem to forget or never learned the lesson that "any government powerful enough to give you everything you want is also powerful enough to take away everything you have".
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2017, 03:21:41 pm »
I really think he belongs over at the DemocraticUnderground....

with the rest of his ilk.

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #62 on: June 30, 2017, 03:25:41 pm »
McConnell is wasting his time with democrats.  He needs to be cooperating with Cruz and Lee and maybe Rand Paul to craft a better bill that Republicans can vote for.

Exactly, but he won't.  We must ask ourselves why?  The answer is that the GOP, led by McTurtle, WANTS single payer health care.  Why else would they take ownership of a system that is doomed to failure?

"Health care" is the ultimate method to control the populace.  It is what tyrants dream of.  McTurtle and similar republicans are tyrants and they are proving it right now.

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #63 on: June 30, 2017, 03:26:24 pm »
Sadly too many Republicans have become used to...or willfully embraced Liberalism in their daily life because that's the easy thing to do and requires little thought or effort on their part in their daily lives.

They seem to forget or never learned the lesson that "any government powerful enough to give you everything you want is also powerful enough to take away everything you have".

Bullshit.  What's easy is to whine and demand the politically impossible, and then stand back in self-satisfaction when nothing gets done - and the ACA remains in place.

What is, or should be, politically possible is to fix the ACA to restore insurance markets, lower premiums, roll back an unaffordable entitlement, and free up dollars for tax relief.   Except it's not enough for fools like you who demand perfection.   Fools like you who will saddle us with the ACA for years to come.  And it's fools like you that label those who work for real, possible change as "liberals". 

I'm so sick and tired of fools like you. 

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #64 on: June 30, 2017, 03:28:41 pm »
KMA

The truth hurts, doesn't it.  Suck it up, buttercup.   Especially when you essentially call another member stupid and basically claim they have their head up their ass.  You fit the profile..... to a perfect "T".

Oh.... and just while I was typing this post, you called another member a fool.  Nice goin.


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« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2017, 03:30:59 pm »
 

I'm so sick and tired of fools like you.

Then leave.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2017, 03:33:22 pm »
Then leave.

Can I help him pack?  (please, please please.....!)

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #67 on: June 30, 2017, 03:40:09 pm »


Great news!  Thanks for posting that update.

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« Reply #68 on: June 30, 2017, 03:42:35 pm »
Can I help him pack?  (please, please please.....!)

 :silly:

It always amazes me the people that complain about how much they hate a place or the people there...yet continue to come back and hang out at a place they supposedly despise....with people they supposedly can't stand.  :pondering:
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2017, 03:42:47 pm »

Oh.... and just while I was typing this post, you called another member a fool.  Nice goin.

Wrong.  It was the same member.   
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #70 on: June 30, 2017, 03:42:54 pm »
What is the problem?  If we can't get 100% then we go for 70%, right?  Pragmatism! Right?   *****rollingeyes*****

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« Reply #71 on: June 30, 2017, 03:42:55 pm »
What you want is for people to not hold their elected officials accountable or make them true to their word.

Your preference is for them to be malleable to the latest wind change and do what's expedient instead of what's right.

That's the cowards way out.

It's worse than cowardly, it is a subject begging for the rule of a king! 

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« Reply #72 on: June 30, 2017, 03:44:49 pm »
It's worse than cowardly, it is a subject begging for the rule of a king!

Yup.  And we have never been subjects since we won our independence...we've been citizens.

Some people don't get the difference there either.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #73 on: June 30, 2017, 03:45:04 pm »
I want the ACA fixed. I want premiums reduced.  I want the mandates gone.  I want the Medicaid entitlement rolled back to pave the way for tax relief.

You don't want any of those things, not if you cling to your stubborn insistence on total repeal which isn't politically possible.   I am bored to tears at you and those like you who act like petulant children.  Don't dare complain about the ACA - it's fools like you that will keep it firmly in place.

Couldn't get past the bold, my friend.   

1)  A full House and Senate vote on an UP/DOWN full repeal of the ACA one year hence.  Get their vote in the public record ASAP.  Nobody 'loses' anything for the next twelve months, providing you kept up with the premiums.
 
2) Let the free market cross State lines to offer policies.   

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #74 on: June 30, 2017, 03:46:24 pm »
Please save your invective for McConnell.  This thread is close to being locked.