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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #200 on: July 01, 2017, 08:34:40 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on June 30, 2017, 08:15:00 pm
That's where you pay in a dollar and get twenty cents back. If there was a change machine like that in your town, someone would have taken a sledgehammer to it long ago.

Galveston, Texas  (one of my favorite places on earth) managed to opt out of the Social Security program and put their taxes into better investments.  Lot of old people living high on the hog in Galveston.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #201 on: July 01, 2017, 08:35:30 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on July 01, 2017, 08:14:08 pm
What do medium crabs get?   :pondering:
Left in the livebox to harden and get fat...or broken up for fish bait. White Perch would go nuts over them.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #202 on: July 01, 2017, 08:36:13 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on July 01, 2017, 08:31:31 pm
I'm more curious about what the perpetual victim crabs get.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #203 on: July 01, 2017, 08:37:24 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on July 01, 2017, 08:34:40 pm
Galveston, Texas  (one of my favorite places on earth) managed to opt out of the Social Security program and put their taxes into better investments.  Lot of old people living high on the hog in Galveston.
They are among the lucky ones. Most of the country didn't or were not aware they could.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #204 on: July 01, 2017, 08:39:29 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on July 01, 2017, 08:31:31 pm
I'm more curious about what the perpetual victim crabs get.

Maybe they get "lucky" and someone comes along and puts them in an aquarium.  Free meals, no having to work, no chance of getting eaten, free ride for life guaranteed.  Pays off to be a perpetual victim sometimes.  Of course.... so much for the "freedom" aspect.

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #205 on: July 01, 2017, 08:41:34 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on July 01, 2017, 08:39:29 pm
Maybe they get "lucky" and someone comes along and puts them in an aquarium.  Free meals, no having to work, no chance of getting eaten, free ride for life guaranteed.  Pays off to be a perpetual victim sometimes.  Of course.... so much for the "freedom" aspect.
No m'am. Victim crabs hang out in curly environments and get an entirely different treatment. They are a whole 'nother critter from Blue Crabs.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #206 on: July 01, 2017, 08:46:25 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 01, 2017, 08:37:24 pm
They are among the lucky ones. Most of the country didn't or were not aware they could.

yeah, I should look into the history of how that happened and Galveston should erect a statue to whatever city fathers were savvy enough to do this.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #207 on: July 01, 2017, 08:49:43 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 01, 2017, 08:41:34 pm
No m'am. Victim crabs hang out in curly environments and get an entirely different treatment. They are a whole 'nother critter from Blue Crabs.

Dammit.

Now I'm craving gumbo.  I'd like to victimize some Blue Crabs right about now....
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #208 on: July 01, 2017, 08:49:59 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on July 01, 2017, 08:46:25 pm
yeah, I should look into the history of how that happened and Galveston should erect a statue to whatever city fathers were savvy enough to do this.
They should indeed.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #209 on: July 01, 2017, 08:51:39 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 01, 2017, 08:37:24 pm
They are among the lucky ones. Most of the country didn't or were not aware they could.

Yep.  I used to love crossing that bridge into Galveston when I was a kid and ...well, forever ... until I moved to Maui.

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #210 on: July 01, 2017, 08:53:27 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 01, 2017, 08:49:59 pm
They should indeed.

The mainstream media will never report on something like that.  They wouldn't want the idea to "catch on".   Remember how Bush was ridiculed and mocked for wanting to start privatizing Social Security for younger taxpayers?  For daring to want to give young folks a (gasp!) choice.  The noive!  The fascist left is always against giving taxpayers a choice re: how to use their own money.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #211 on: July 01, 2017, 09:04:07 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on July 01, 2017, 08:51:39 pm
Yep.  I used to love crossing that bridge into Galveston when I was a kid and ...well, forever ... until I moved to Maui.

That was always the best feeling getting to that bridge and going over it.  God, I miss the beach!
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #212 on: July 01, 2017, 09:15:00 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on July 01, 2017, 08:53:27 pm
The mainstream media will never report on something like that.  They wouldn't want the idea to "catch on".   Remember how Bush was ridiculed and mocked for wanting to start privatizing Social Security for younger taxpayers?  For daring to want to give young folks a (gasp!) choice.  The noive!  The fascist left is always against giving taxpayers a choice re: how to use their own money.

It's the demagoguery.  Just look upthread a bit.  You and I (among others) were called gluttonous pigs for wanting to keep the money that was taken from us in the name of Social Security.  That we call the poor "non-virtuous."
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #213 on: July 01, 2017, 09:25:00 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 01, 2017, 09:15:00 pm
It's the demagoguery.  Just look upthread a bit.  You and I (among others) were called gluttonous pigs for wanting to keep the money that was taken from us in the name of Social Security.  That we call the poor "non-virtuous."

Blanket demagoguery is a hallmark of your typical Leftist troll.  They hope by doing so that you take their bait to defend and justify yourself against the bogus charge.  It's why being called 'racist' worked so well for awhile.  Being declared 'selfish' and 'gluttonous' by arguing in favor of keeping more of your own hard earned money is a well-known meme of the Left.  The luster of that tactic is wearing off of John Q Public's sensitivity to it.  Pushback is beginning to assert itself against the School of Alinsky which our resident Leftist was apparently schooled and well-versed in.

In the twisted worldview of the Left, the Producers who pay for everything are the evil, selfish gluttons, while the welfare caste of dependents are 'virtuous', along with Jihadists, drug addicts, BLM activists and Climate Change/Eco warriors.

And reading the charges by our esteemed Leftie-In-Our-Midst upon us, reveals who and what he really is.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #214 on: July 02, 2017, 01:53:27 am »
Quote from: XenaLee on July 01, 2017, 08:53:27 pm
The mainstream media will never report on something like that.  They wouldn't want the idea to "catch on".   Remember how Bush was ridiculed and mocked for wanting to start privatizing Social Security for younger taxpayers?  For daring to want to give young folks a (gasp!) choice.  The noive!  The fascist left is always against giving taxpayers a choice re: how to use their own money.

They feed on the fear that less informed people have about social security.  Bush's idea should be implemented and now.  I think that everyone who is paying in now should be given the opportunity to direct their SSi deposits into a private IRA type fund of their own choosing.  The benefits they had earned under Social Security should be locked in, and the benefits from the new investment plan would kick in on top of that.

I think we should keep some mandatory program for retirement.  It's too bad that we can't depend on people ... or even ourselves ... to save for retirement, but we can't.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #215 on: July 02, 2017, 02:23:46 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 01, 2017, 07:18:21 pm
I honestly have no opinion on your differences with @Jazzhead , but I find him to be a terrific asset to the forum.

As I read the more active threads, Jazz if right in the middle of it.

He being a Contrarian of sorts, he presents a moderate Republican POV, with a empathetic streak running alone his spine that show up on social issue topics.

Sort of like a soft-shelled crab.   Not a hard ass, but still delicious.
The guy singlehandedly shuts down more threads than anyone else on this forum.  A contrarion is a polite word for liberal.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #216 on: July 02, 2017, 02:53:52 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on July 02, 2017, 02:23:46 am
The guy singlehandedly shuts down more threads than anyone else on this forum.  A contrarion is a polite word for liberal.
Well, it is here. On Kos or DU, we'd be the contrarians.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #217 on: July 02, 2017, 06:58:42 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 01, 2017, 07:07:20 pm
After all these many months I have difficulty understanding why anyone even tries to communicate with him. I gave up on it a LONG time ago!

Agreed. He has a right to post here just like anyone else, however, I stopped taking him seriously as a conservative with his pro-Kasich, pro abortion and pro gay rights posts.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #218 on: July 02, 2017, 09:01:58 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on July 02, 2017, 06:58:42 pm
Agreed. He has a right to post here just like anyone else, however, I stopped taking him seriously as a conservative with his pro-Kasich, pro abortion and pro gay rights posts.

I agree.  I would say he makes it interesting but he doesn't.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #219 on: July 02, 2017, 10:06:00 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on July 02, 2017, 06:58:42 pm
Agreed. He has a right to post here just like anyone else, however, I stopped taking him seriously as a conservative with his pro-Kasich, pro abortion and pro gay rights posts.
Three examples of a liberal thinker.
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