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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #175 on: July 01, 2017, 12:00:44 pm »
That is only for homosexuals, the "poor", people of color, Muslims and anti-gun proponents.

The rest of us do not deserve 'equal protection' because we are gluttonous resenters of the poor and obstacles to government assistance and because we didn't build that and we didn't pay into that due to the fact the government constituencies our resident Leftist constantly defends are more virtuous than you or I.

it's not a 'benefit' when you and I pay into something for decades - but as with all government Leftists like our resident - all money belongs to government and when you are allowed to keep or get back any of your own earnings, that is to be considered a 'benefit' that makes you less virtuous than the "poor" that he champions be taken care of with our money.

 :amen:  We are forced to pay into the system via a tax and yet somehow accessing those funds is then labeled a benefit and depending on income can be taxed again.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #176 on: July 01, 2017, 12:27:23 pm »
Zero Republicans voted for it, so who do you think you should blame?

Who I have always blamed.  The damned Democrats.... America's 'enemy within'.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #177 on: July 01, 2017, 12:31:03 pm »
Who I have always blamed.  The damned Democrats.... America's 'enemy within'.
In the case of ACA, yes.  IN the case of a monstrosity the GOP is trying to pass, better include the RINOs.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #178 on: July 01, 2017, 12:31:34 pm »
:amen:  We are forced to pay into the system via a tax and yet somehow accessing those funds is then labeled a benefit and depending on income can be taxed again.

Oh.... but Jazzhead is not just labeling it a benefit.   He's calling it an entitlement.... and putting us all (all who paid into the system for decades) on the same level as the REAL "free riders".... ie those that never paid a damn dime for ANY thing.... yet draw from that government teat for most or for all of their damned lives. 
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #179 on: July 01, 2017, 12:33:24 pm »
In the case of ACA, yes.  IN the case of a monstrosity the GOP is trying to pass, better include the RINOs.

I do include the RINOs (who actually ARE Democrats under the mask)... but yeah, we were talking about ObamaCare.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #180 on: July 01, 2017, 04:42:56 pm »
Oh.... but Jazzhead is not just labeling it a benefit.   He's calling it an entitlement.... and putting us all (all who paid into the system for decades) on the same level as the REAL "free riders".... ie those that never paid a damn dime for ANY thing.... yet draw from that government teat for most or for all of their damned lives.

He really turned the corner yesterday when he referred to us gluttons for wanting to keep our own earnings.  He tipped his hand and proved he'd just a socialist thief, everything else is just trolling.  He lies about being a  Reagan Republican because he figures we'll all turn him off if he drops the act.  I say that ship sailed a long time ago.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #181 on: July 01, 2017, 05:15:26 pm »

Oh.... but Jazzhead is not just labeling it a benefit.   He's calling it an entitlement.... and putting us all (all who paid into the system for decades) on the same level as the REAL "free riders".... ie those that never paid a damn dime for ANY thing.... yet draw from that government teat for most or for all of their damned lives.


en·ti·tle
inˈtīdl,enˈtīdl/
verb
verb: entitle; 3rd person present: entitles; past tense: entitled; past participle: entitled; gerund or present participle: entitling

    1.
    give (someone) a legal right or a just claim to receive or do something.


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en·ti·tle·ment
inˈtīdlmənt,enˈtīdlmənt/
noun
noun: entitlement; plural noun: entitlements

    the fact of having a right to something.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

A point to be made here:  When Senators, etc., use the word to describe social security payments, they are acknowledging that the citizen is ENTITLED to that money.

When the MSM use the word, they conflate it with government payments like welfare, food stamps, Section 8 and other assorted entitlement programs.

 
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #182 on: July 01, 2017, 05:28:30 pm »
en·ti·tle
inˈtīdl,enˈtīdl/
verb
verb: entitle; 3rd person present: entitles; past tense: entitled; past participle: entitled; gerund or present participle: entitling

    1.
    give (someone) a legal right or a just claim to receive or do something.


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en·ti·tle·ment
inˈtīdlmənt,enˈtīdlmənt/
noun
noun: entitlement; plural noun: entitlements

    the fact of having a right to something.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

A point to be made here:  When Senators, etc., use the word to describe social security payments, they are acknowledging that the citizen is ENTITLED to that money.

When the MSM use the word, they conflate it with government payments like welfare, food stamps, Section 8 and other assorted entitlement programs.

@DCPatriot that's why when referring to things like welfare...Food Stamps etc I prefer to use the term "unfunded liabilities"...IMO it's a more accurate description of what we're dealing with.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #183 on: July 01, 2017, 05:35:36 pm »
@DCPatriot that's why when referring to things like welfare...Food Stamps etc I prefer to use the term "unfunded liabilities"...IMO it's a more accurate description of what we're dealing with.

"Unfunded Liabilities" is polite.   'Government handouts' works for me.
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« Reply #184 on: July 01, 2017, 05:37:06 pm »
"Unfunded Liabilities" is polite.   'Government handouts' works for me.

That works too.  :beer:
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #185 on: July 01, 2017, 05:41:31 pm »
"Unfunded Liabilities" is polite.   'Government handouts' works for me.

Yes.  Let's rescue our language from the Left and call things what they are once again.

Government handouts; 'on the dole'; 'The free shit army'; all work for me to describe the dependents of government and the liability largesse the feds have enacted to keep themselves in perpetual political power while rendering us to serfdom.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #186 on: July 01, 2017, 05:42:03 pm »
:amen:  We are forced to pay into the system via a tax and yet somehow accessing those funds is then labeled a benefit and depending on income can be taxed again.

It bugs me more than any other idiotic comments when ignorant people lump Social Security in with 'benefits.'

Where were they when we were forced to invest in this ponzi scheme which has very small returns?

But, however small, they mean everything to a lot of people.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #187 on: July 01, 2017, 05:42:24 pm »
When the MSM use the word, they conflate it with government payments like welfare, food stamps, Section 8 and other assorted entitlement programs.

Which is why Jazzy plays the foil for the left and puts the lie to every claim he's made about being "conservative."  He deliberately confuses the definitions in order to portray the people of this forum as heartless.  On one hand he uses the legislative definition of "entitlement," then in the next sentence calls us gluttonous pigs for trying to keep a grip on our hard-earned dollars. 

He rarely answers my posts anymore because I call him on it, every time.   I'm glad he keeps posting, as an example of the enemy we fight.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #188 on: July 01, 2017, 05:47:56 pm »
He really turned the corner yesterday when he referred to us gluttons for wanting to keep our own earnings.  He tipped his hand and proved he'd just a socialist thief, everything else is just trolling.  He lies about being a  Reagan Republican because he figures we'll all turn him off if he drops the act.  I say that ship sailed a long time ago.

Absolutely.  He has outted himself many times over here.  Not fooling anyone but himself at this point.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #189 on: July 01, 2017, 05:51:06 pm »
en·ti·tle
inˈtīdl,enˈtīdl/
verb
verb: entitle; 3rd person present: entitles; past tense: entitled; past participle: entitled; gerund or present participle: entitling

    1.
    give (someone) a legal right or a just claim to receive or do something.


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en·ti·tle·ment
inˈtīdlmənt,enˈtīdlmənt/
noun
noun: entitlement; plural noun: entitlements

    the fact of having a right to something.

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A point to be made here:  When Senators, etc., use the word to describe social security payments, they are acknowledging that the citizen is ENTITLED to that money.

When the MSM use the word, they conflate it with government payments like welfare, food stamps, Section 8 and other assorted entitlement programs.

True.  But it's not just the MSM, which is mostly leftists, that conflate it with welfare.  It's Jazzhead too.  He has made clear how he sees it with his socialistic "you didn't earn or build that.... you just 'got lucky' BS".

Ok.... just to be polite....

@Jazzhead
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #190 on: July 01, 2017, 07:07:20 pm »
Which is why Jazzy plays the foil for the left and puts the lie to every claim he's made about being "conservative."  He deliberately confuses the definitions in order to portray the people of this forum as heartless.  On one hand he uses the legislative definition of "entitlement," then in the next sentence calls us gluttonous pigs for trying to keep a grip on our hard-earned dollars. 

He rarely answers my posts anymore because I call him on it, every time.   I'm glad he keeps posting, as an example of the enemy we fight.

After all these many months I have difficulty understanding why anyone even tries to communicate with him. I gave up on it a LONG time ago!
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #191 on: July 01, 2017, 07:18:21 pm »
Which is why Jazzy plays the foil for the left and puts the lie to every claim he's made about being "conservative."  He deliberately confuses the definitions in order to portray the people of this forum as heartless.  On one hand he uses the legislative definition of "entitlement," then in the next sentence calls us gluttonous pigs for trying to keep a grip on our hard-earned dollars. 

He rarely answers my posts anymore because I call him on it, every time.   I'm glad he keeps posting, as an example of the enemy we fight.

I honestly have no opinion on your differences with @Jazzhead , but I find him to be a terrific asset to the forum.

As I read the more active threads, Jazz if right in the middle of it.

He being a Contrarian of sorts, he presents a moderate Republican POV, with a empathetic streak running alone his spine that show up on social issue topics.

Sort of like a soft-shelled crab.   Not a hard ass, but still delicious. 
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #192 on: July 01, 2017, 07:24:00 pm »
I honestly have no opinion on your differences with @Jazzhead , but I find him to be a terrific asset to the forum.

As I read the more active threads, Jazz if right in the middle of it.

He being a Contrarian of sorts, he presents a moderate Republican POV, with a empathetic streak running alone his spine that show up on social issue topics.

Sort of like a soft-shelled crab.   Not a hard ass, but still delicious.

Food for thought.  I find he's usually in the middle of things because he's devolved into nothing but a troll, but that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #193 on: July 01, 2017, 07:28:47 pm »
Food for thought.  I find he's usually in the middle of things because he's devolved into nothing but a troll, but that's just my opinion.

I'll try to pay more attention.    :laugh:
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #194 on: July 01, 2017, 07:31:07 pm »
I'll try to pay more attention.    :laugh:

LOL.  You're doing just fine, I happen to value your opinions on things like this.  :beer:
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #195 on: July 01, 2017, 08:00:09 pm »
I honestly have no opinion on your differences with @Jazzhead , but I find him to be a terrific asset to the forum.

As I read the more active threads, Jazz if right in the middle of it.

He being a Contrarian of sorts, he presents a moderate Republican POV, with a empathetic streak running alone his spine that show up on social issue topics.

Sort of like a soft-shelled crab.   Not a hard ass, but still delicious.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #196 on: July 01, 2017, 08:10:50 pm »
Soft crabs get fried. Hard crabs get steamed.

Yes.  Crabs.  Very fitting.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #197 on: July 01, 2017, 08:14:08 pm »
Soft crabs get fried. Hard crabs get steamed.

What do medium crabs get?   :pondering:
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #198 on: July 01, 2017, 08:18:01 pm »
What do medium crabs get?   :pondering:

They get away from the cage to live another day.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #199 on: July 01, 2017, 08:31:31 pm »
What do medium crabs get?   :pondering:

I'm more curious about what the perpetual victim crabs get.
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