Republican candidate 'body-slams' Guardian reporter in Montana

[DiogenesLamp]

We only need 535 out of 330,000,000.

But Reagan was 1 in 100 million.    We may have "Reagan Like"   people out there,   but to have one that is interested in politics and is on our side?   The odds get even worse.   


Waiting for a Reagan to show up is not a good plan.   They are simply too rare.    Normal people have flaws and blemishes,   and it's just unreasonable to expect that they can overcome the force multiplier of a hostile media controlled by the left. 


Which is why I keep saying we need to destroy the source of our political problems.   The total and utter control of the airwaves by Liberal Democrats,  mostly in New York and Los Angeles. 


Till we take back at least half of that broadcasting infrastructure,  advancing our agenda will always be difficult or impossible. 

[skeeter]

There is a crowd of usual suspects whose posts -- and enthusiasm for posting -- often make this forum look like a pretty ugly place.  This thread is a great example.

Luckily we have that other group of usual suspects constantly and monotonously showing up to offer their unending disapproval of their fellow members to balance things out.

[r9etb]

Well,  one thing you said is correct.   The Left wing Reporter of a Foreign Socialist nation  is indeed an "enemy",   and so therefore I will not automatically believe whatever he or his allies say about an event with actual political consequences. 

I find it perfectly reasonable that we should be suspicious of our political enemies while giving our own allies the benefit of the doubt. 

I think it odd that some immediately take up the accusations of their political enemies without trying to see things in the best light for their allies.   

I think this tendency to destroy our own is a major part of why Liberals keep advancing and we keep losing ground.

Well, that's an unhinged sort of rant.

This tendency of so-called "conservatives" to defend the indefensible really makes it easy for Liberals to win.

[DiogenesLamp]

Me, too.  Things like "people excusing violent criminal behavior as acceptable".

Yes,   i'm a horrible person because I make a joke about someone whipping some @$$ in Washington D.C.   


We should all be completely civilized and accept without resistance the future "our betters" are intent on shoving down our throat.   


And freedom dies with a whimper,  not a bang. 

 

[LateForLunch]

While I agree it seems Liberals have blanket absolution for their sins, Conservatives are defined by principles, and somewhat self-policing. If we abandon that, or adopt double standards, the differences begin to go away.

Well I'm reminded of a  case of Dutch squatters in a house in a town near Amsterdam. Some bums had occupied the home for awhile but the owner decided to fix it up and rent it out. So he asked the squatters to get out. They refused. The local LEO was called and when he got the facts of the situation, he called together some other LEOs and locals, went to the house, physically grabbed the squatters, kicked the asses of those who resisted, then threw them the **** out of the house and told them not to come back unless they wanted a second helping. Problem solved. No long, drawn out, costly court proceedings. Just-ice.

Also, there was that case of the U.S. Constitutional Convention being unable to achieve a quorum at one critical point, because two disgruntled delegates were deliberately hiding out in their residence refusing to attend the convention. A group led by the Sergeant-at-Arms came to fetch them, dragged them physically out by force, plopped them down into their seats at the meeting hall, held them in the chairs until after the roll call ( forced them to declare "present" when called). Then released them with only a few minor scrapes and bruises. Mission accomplished. 

There is something to be said for cutting through all the BS and going with the direct approach.

[rodamala]

Can someone explain to me why there are 2 reporters from a Leftist British paper covering some shit election in MT?

Because we now rely on foriegn press for real news.

[r9etb]

Yes,   i'm a horrible person because I make a joke about someone whipping some @$$ in Washington D.C.   
We should all be completely civilized and accept without resistance the future "our betters" are intent on shoving down our throat.   
And freedom dies with a whimper,  not a bang.

:odrama:

[DiogenesLamp]

There is a crowd of usual suspects whose posts -- and enthusiasm for posting -- often make this forum look like a pretty ugly place.  This thread is a great example.

You are correct about this,  but I think it looks "ugly"  to me and you for different reasons.   


I am once again bewildered that the prime focus of your crowd is the possibility of wrong doing of one of our guys. 

   
Liberals do not do this.  For whatever reason,  they show more loyalty and restraint against criticizing their own than do we. 


And they have far more for which they could be criticized. 

[Smokin Joe]

But Reagan was 1 in 100 million.    We may have "Reagan Like"   people out there,   but to have one that is interested in politics and is on our side?   The odds get even worse.   


Waiting for a Reagan to show up is not a good plan.   They are simply too rare.    Normal people have flaws and blemishes,   and it's just unreasonable to expect that they can overcome the force multiplier of a hostile media controlled by the left. 


Which is why I keep saying we need to destroy the source of our political problems.   The total and utter control of the airwaves by Liberal Democrats,  mostly in New York and Los Angeles. 


Till we take back at least half of that broadcasting infrastructure,  advancing our agenda will always be difficult or impossible.

True enough.  Difficult.

But that breaks back to media awareness, and how the optics will go.

Anyone in this day and age who is in politics and doesn't get that, instinctively, is media roadkill looking for a mile marker.

The ONLY time it is justifiable to engage in violence is in self defense, and that means at least ducking the first shot.

If things are getting out of hand, exert control. People are looking for leadership.

If the media won't listen, shut it down with a statement to the effect that 'This isn't a rugby scrum, it's a Q and A session. I'd love to answer questions, but let's do this in an orderly fashion. Failing that, we are done here.'

[DiogenesLamp]

False dichotomy.

Just because "perfect" is unachievable doesn't mean all standards are off.

I keep pointing to "Macaca"  as an example of how a harmless statement was blown up by the  hostile media to the point where it cost us a US Senate seat.   


"Perfect"  is the condition of making no mistakes,   and I think making no mistakes that can be exploited by the "New People" is indeed the standard that many people are advocating.   


Who could have told Steve Allen that saying the word "Macaca"  would cost him the election?   Who could have told Trent Lott that saying something nice about Strom Thurmond would cost him his seat?   

The "media"  always have the long knives out for us,  and I think it is not reasonable to expect people not to say or do anything that can be twisted by the media into a career ending gaffe. 

[Frank Cannon]

I am once again bewildered that the prime focus of your crowd is the possibility of wrong doing of one of our guys. 

   

Because it give the McMuffin fanboys an outlet to go on and on about how Trump has ruined the political discourse in the country to a point never seen before. It is almost like their history books only go back about a year and a half.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_of_Charles_Sumner

[Silver Pines]

There is a crowd of usual suspects whose posts -- and enthusiasm for posting -- often make this forum look like a pretty ugly place.  This thread is a great example.

@r9etb

It's actually pretty funny when I see posts stating that it's just fine and dandy to punch a reporter who gets too close, when we know good and well that in real life those posters wouldn't dare. 

[DiogenesLamp]

@DiogenesLamp

Sometimes the accusations are correct.  The witnesses on this one make me think he did it.

I think he did something.   I just don't know if it is as bad as what he has been accused. 

Honestly I don't want a politician in office who goes around assaulting people.   Especially one stupid enough to do it to a reporter.

I don't know what I think about this.   I think getting a little physical with people intent on trying to cause trouble is reasonable within limits,   and is under the right circumstances admirable.   


The question revolves around how far he went and for what reason.   

[Bigun]

I find it very telling that people here are going nuts over this nothing of a story and completely ignoring the story of the decade!

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,264283.msg1334880.html#msg1334880

[Smokin Joe]

Well I'm reminded of a  case of Dutch squatters in a house in a town near Amsterdam. Some bums had occupied the home for awhile but the owner decided to fix it up and rent it out. So he asked the squatters to get out. They refused. The local LEO was called and when he got the facts of the situation, he called together some other LEOs and locals, went to the house, physically grabbed the squatters, kicked the asses of those who resisted, then threw them the **** out of the house and told them not to come back unless they wanted a second helping. Problem solved. No long, drawn out, costly court proceedings. Just-ice.

Also, there was that case of the U.S. Constitutional Convention being unable to achieve a quorum at one critical point, because two disgruntled delegates were deliberately hiding out in their residence refusing to attend the convention. A group led by the Sergeant-at-Arms came to fetch them, dragged them physically out by force, plopped them down into their seats at the meeting hall, and bound them by ropes until after the roll call. Then released them with only a few minor scrapes and bruises. Mission accomplished. 

There is something to be said for cutting through all the BS and going with the direct approach.

I'm all for cutting through BS.

In the first instance it was done by duly empowered police.

In the second, by the Sergeant-at-Arms and a group assembled for the task. In both situations, there was no question of authority.

Note, that the property owner, nor an ad hoc group of members were not the ones to utilize force, but everything was, in fact, done by operating within official parameters, by people who were duly authorized. Step outside of that, and you range from vigilantism (sometimes justified) to mob rule.

In the instances where vigilantism was justified, usually the officials were corrupt and the focus of the action.

An example, if you like: http://www.bigskywords.com/montana-blog/henry-plummer-and-the-montana-vigilantes

[Silver Pines]

[Smokin Joe]

I find it very telling that people here are going nuts over this nothing of a story and completely ignoring the story of the decade!

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,264283.msg1334880.html#msg1334880

Actually, I thought this qualified for that title:

Democratic Aide Suspected Of Top-Level Security Breach Just Fled The USA!

[DiogenesLamp]

Well, that's an unhinged sort of rant.

So you approve then?   

This tendency of so-called "conservatives" to defend the indefensible really makes it easy for Liberals to win.

Yes,  *that* is what is causing Liberals to win.   


It's not the circular firing squads that our side routinely deploys to salve liberal outrage over fabricated events. 

[Bigun]

Actually, I thought this qualified for that title:

Democratic Aide Suspected Of Top-Level Security Breach Just Fled The USA!

Both are equally important but the one at your link has received SOME attention here. the one at mine {{{{{{{{{Crickets}}}}}}}}

[r9etb]

Oh, yeah, well, who cares if some guy saw it happen and who cares that, if anything, it was even worse than what was originally reported.

The reporter looks like a fairy!  He's the enemy!  Liberals win because.... well, hitting people is OK because Liberals!

[Frank Cannon]

I find it very telling that people here are going nuts over this nothing of a story and completely ignoring the story of the decade!

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,264283.msg1334880.html#msg1334880

Bashing Obama here is uncouth. Trump and only Trump should be bashed and when that's not available any random GOPer conducting politics in the era of Trump should be bashed.

Get your mind right dude. This nothing local story is a national crisis and any chatter about illegal spying by the federal govt' just means you do not want us to be safe from (insert your personal bogyman here).

[Silver Pines]

You are correct about this,  but I think it looks "ugly"  to me and you for different reasons.   


I am once again bewildered that the prime focus of your crowd is the possibility of wrong doing of one of our guys. 

   
Liberals do not do this.  For whatever reason,  they show more loyalty and restraint against criticizing their own than do we. 


And they have far more for which they could be criticized.

@DiogenesLamp

A nut who assaults people is not "my guy."

 Someone with an R behind his name is not automatically "my guy."

My loyalty is to the country, not to a party or to politicians, especially when they go around acting like morons.

Liberals are pretty much devoid of character and integrity.  That's where we'll end up if this is the kind of person we choose to represent us, and if we go to the mat defending the indefensible. 

[LateForLunch]

:odrama:

I frankly thing that there is nothing uglier than using a moral rationalization for cowardice. Far uglier than suggesting that some people probably deserved to get roughed up a little. Nobody got their limbs broken or bloodied, just got their feelings hurt a little (and broke a pair of glasses). Most days in the fifth grade I came off the play ground after recess with worse.

Interesting how the tradition of being manly and taking some lumps once in awhile has been edited out of the tradition of conservatism by some of our posters here. Maybe they'd prefer the newfangled "safe-space" tradition that the far leftists have tried to start. Where people with normal reactions to aggression, rudeness and boundary violations are portrayed as  "defective" human beings.

Zero tolerance for manliness. Got it. No thanks.

I'm more incline to want to hang out with them, than the former. Will it cost him the election? Maybe. Should he try to have more self-control? Definitely. Do I care one iota about the leftist's glasses or wounded pride? No and no.

As far as I am concerned, most far-left journalists should be defenestrated on GP. They are mostly pathogens that have the ability to speak and dress themselves in clothing.  Former Minnesota governor Jesse Ventura called them "official jackals" and even made them wear that title on their journalist access badges when he was governor. I never agreed more with any decision.

That is the one thing more than any other that I like about how Putin conducts himself - he treats the mass media with the respect they deserve - very little. He treats them like what they are, the endless side show or part of the scenery, not the vital center or the main event.

Of course, as is often the case with Russkies, Putin took that too far when he had the Russian Mafia kill some of the journalists he disliked with polonium and assassinated the president of Poland by crashing his plane. That was all highly unnecessary and not really helpful ( along with all of the other late unpleasantness of annexations etc).

[Bigun]

Bashing Obama here is uncouth. Trump and only Trump should be bashed and when that's not available any random GOPer conducting politics in the era of Trump should be bashed.

Get your mind right dude. This nothing local story is a national crisis and any chatter about illegal spying by the federal govt' just means you do not want us to be safe from (insert your personal bogyman here).

Yeah! I've noticed!   

[Frank Cannon]

@DiogenesLamp

A nut who assaults people is not "my guy."

Well if you live in MT he will be your guy. I just read that they have early/absentee voting there and upwards of 20% of the vote is already in before this nit wittery happened last night.....unless the other 6 people that are remaining to vote there vote for the Socialist. Then you will have lots of banjo music for the next 1 years.