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Offline IsailedawayfromFR

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I note in this article that is says "Bush was asked about the media's role in light of President Donald Trump's recent characterization of the media as "enemies of America." "

I cannot find a site that actually quotes Trumps saying that.  Trump did say that fake news sites are enemies.

The article appears to be one ginning up controversy.
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The Bush's and Clinton's are cut from the same cloth.  Their dynasties had a grip on this country like no other.  They are not pleased with the fact that Trump ended that control when he won.  The Clinton foundation is unraveling ... I have no idea the amount of political money (foreign and domestic) that the Bush's and Clinton's  have accumulated over the years; but hopefully Trump put a plug in the money flowing into their pockets and a whole lot of people down the food chain are feeling the pinch as well.  The corruption of the Clinton's and the Bush's is notable and shouldn't be forgotten.  We have a President that is trying to reverse the course and for that I have to give him credit and stand by him.  It astounds me that people are still bellyaching over his win ... sure the guy said some crude things, may have done some crude things, isn't that charismatic and doesn't speak so eloquently, but at the end of the day, it seems he's starting to get the job done as he promised.  It's a little over a month into his presidency...so far, I can't find anything really to complain about.
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Ahhhhh, Trumpers have a new enemy.


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The Bush's and Clinton's are cut from the same cloth.  Their dynasties had a grip on this country like no other.  They are not pleased with the fact that Trump ended that control when he won.  The Clinton foundation is unraveling ... I have no idea the amount of political money (foreign and domestic) that the Bush's and Clinton's  have accumulated over the years; but hopefully Trump put a plug in the money flowing into their pockets and a whole lot of people down the food chain are feeling the pinch as well.  The corruption of the Clinton's and the Bush's is notable and shouldn't be forgotten.  We have a President that is trying to reverse the course and for that I have to give him credit and stand by him.  It astounds me that people are still bellyaching over his win ... sure the guy said some crude things, may have done some crude things, isn't that charismatic and doesn't speak so eloquently, but at the end of the day, it seems he's starting to get the job done as he promised.   It's a little over a month into his presidency...so far, I can't find anything really to complain about.

He hasn't done anything that I take issue with.  I'm sure it will happen.   Just hasn't happened yet.  Can't wait to hear his SOTU address.  Should be interesting to watch.
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I voted for him twice. 


So did I and that was in New York where my vote didn't count. It was him or Gore, him or Kerry.

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So did I and that was in New York where my vote didn't count. It was him or Gore, him or Kerry.

I voted against Gore and Kerry.  I didn't vote FOR anyone.

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Eight years, and not ONCE did W criticize Obama.

What you need to realize is that the Bushs', Clintons', Obamas' and most of the DC establishment are all on the same team. Bush did not criticize Obama because Obama was implementing a Globalist agenda that Bush agrees with. Trump on the other hand is pursuing an agenda that places America and it's citizens first, not the moneyed interest of the globalists. We can expect more of the same from one of the worst presidents ever.

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IMO, Ronald Reagan chose George Herbert Walker Bush for the same political reasons that Donald Trump chose Mike Pence....geopolitical advantage(s).

....same as virtually every POTUS.

Absolutely, Pence is Trumps' HW Bush. We need to watch Pence like a Hawk watching a field mouse.


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Anyone with a brain could have seen that Saddam, as bad as he might have been, was a buffer against Iran, who were always going to be a much larger threat than Saddam could ever have dreamed of being.

Saddam tried to assassinate W daddy. The Iraq war was all about pay back for Saddam trying to kill HW Bush. It had nothing to do with WMDs, that WMD thing was an just an excuse. George W Bush put the interest of his family above the interests of his country. The Bushes are all about family over country.

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Absolutely, Pence is Trumps' HW Bush. We need to watch Pence like a Hawk watching a field mouse.

 

Difference being Trump went to his political right for Pence. Reagan went to his left for Bush.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2017, 05:27:16 pm by don-o »

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@Emjay, while GW didn't reach the levels that 0 did, he was always an open borders guy, even when he was Texas Governor.

Sometimes one has to actually see the talk to get the nuances.  I never watch Today but might have if I'd known he was going to be on.

I've liked him for a long time.  I was so glad he beat the insufferable Ann Richards (whose equally insufferable daughter heads PP).  He was a good governor and basically a good president.  I'm not sure how much attention he pays to politics or to how open borders have been a disaster for much of Europe, but while I hate the immigration remark, I don't hate GWB and never will.

We are to quick to turn against good people because they say or feel something we don't like.

I would really like ME as president but I'd probably be the only one.
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IMO, Ronald Reagan chose George Herbert Walker Bush for the same political reasons that Donald Trump chose Mike Pence....geopolitical advantage(s).

....same as virtually every POTUS.
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New York and Indiana? Geo-Political?

No, I see it more as Trump picking a traditional conservative; and one who is always very supportive of Trump; I don't know what Pence's support was like before he was picked. Pence is outstanding, I guess he brings some of the Midwest slightly but Ryan didn't help Romney that much.  I think he was geo-Political.
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I voted against Gore and Kerry.  I didn't vote FOR anyone.
I voted for him twice too. I knew he was a incompetent phony, running on his daddys' name but the thought of Al Gore and then John Kerry was to horrible to contemplate. I did take a pass on John  (Amnesty) McCain and voted 3rd party. The only time since Jimmy that I haven't voted R at the top.

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Difference being Trump went to his political right for Pence. Reagan went to his left for Bush.
:thumbsup:

Absolutely, I think the Pence pick was in part geared towards all of those saying "Well, Trump's not a real conservative"; it's hard to make that case against Pence. A very accomplished individual, a Representative previously.

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Bush 41 talked of Reagan's voodoo economics; there is no prior bad blood between Trump and Pence,

Pence, though more subdued than others, really seems to stick to Christian principles, maybe even to an Evangelical degree. That is another thing that is not obvious with Bush 41 or 43, I'm sure both of them quoted the Bible and were religious but not to a degree like Pence. Great pick, made the ticket, a very traditional conservative.  Radio talk show host background, not director of the CIA. Bush 41 served nobly in combat as a pilot, that should not be forgotten but then, I think he became part of the big government.

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Sometimes one has to actually see the talk to get the nuances.  I never watch Today but might have if I'd known he was going to be on.

I've liked him for a long time.  I was so glad he beat the insufferable Ann Richards (whose equally insufferable daughter heads PP).  He was a good governor and basically a good president.  I'm not sure how much attention he pays to politics or to how open borders have been a disaster for much of Europe, but while I hate the immigration remark, I don't hate GWB and never will.

We are to quick to turn against good people because they say or feel something we don't like.

I would really like ME as president but I'd probably be the only one.

No one was happier than I was when W won.

It took me a long time to become disappointed with him. He seemed to become bored with the job after Hussein was captured. The only thing that seemed to animate him was his apparent sympathy for illegals.

The fact that he refused to defend himself afterwards was the icing.

But at least we don't have a carbon tax today, which we would if Gore had won.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2017, 05:42:48 pm by skeeter »

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Mega Barf.

"it's critical for the media to hold accountable 'people who abuse their power.'"

Anyone that disagrees with that, finding themselves vomiting in disgust with this very fundamental concept of freedom-loving American thought, might want to go on over to DU or similarly braindead freedom-hating TOS.

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Difference being Trump went to his political right for Pence. Reagan went to his left for Bush.

I'm not so sure about that, certainly Pence is more conservative on social issues. Other than that Trump looks more conservative to me.

Pence was chosen to reassure establishment Rs that he (Trump) would not go to far off the reservation. It worked, he got elected and Pence was a big part of that. Now I'd like to see Pence help get Trump cabinet appointed and his America First agenda passed in Congress. Pences' remarks in Europe were very troubling to me.

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I voted against Gore and Kerry.  I didn't vote FOR anyone.


I can't remember ever voting for anyone. It's always best choice or who seems the best choice.

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  Pences' remarks in Europe were very troubling to me.

Specifically?


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I'm not so sure about that, certainly Pence is more conservative on social issues. Other than that Trump looks more conservative to me.

Pence was chosen to reassure establishment Rs that he (Trump) would not go to far off the reservation. It worked, he got elected and Pence was a big part of that. Now I'd like to see Pence help get Trump cabinet appointed and his America First agenda passed in Congress. Pences' remarks in Europe were very troubling to me.

Those remarks are troubling, so must be the remarks of UN Ambassador Haley and Secretary of State Mattis. At least, Pence has company. I look forward to hearing how their remarks are troubling as well.

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Pence is establishment, yeah, right.  Lazy argument.


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Yup he was.  I always thought it was because of Jeb's wife.

I always thought it was misplaced compassion.

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Sometimes one has to actually see the talk to get the nuances.  I never watch Today but might have if I'd known he was going to be on.

I've liked him for a long time.  I was so glad he beat the insufferable Ann Richards (whose equally insufferable daughter heads PP).  He was a good governor and basically a good president.  I'm not sure how much attention he pays to politics or to how open borders have been a disaster for much of Europe, but while I hate the immigration remark, I don't hate GWB and never will.

We are to quick to turn against good people because they say or feel something we don't like.

I would really like ME as president but I'd probably be the only one.

Emjay, I hope I didn't give the impression that I was turning against the guy.  I voted for him for governor, and twice for Pres.  But - I knew what we were getting to a great extent.  I did not anticipate the vast increase in federal spending and I didn't anticipate that GW would just slow federal enforcement of migrant laws to the extent that he did.  I figured he would be a fairly non-harmful middle of the road kind of president and one who would be vastly superior to Al Gore or John Kerry.  I was surprised by how far left he went.

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I always thought it was misplaced compassion.
To be fair, many have suffered from misplaced compassion, including the original amnesty guy, Pres. Reagan. Gov. Perry. John McCain. etc.

For now I like Trump's position, of starting to get the "bad ones" out, and deal with the finer points later.
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