Survey: Historians rank Obama 12th best president

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Survey: Historians rank Obama 12th best president

By Cristiano Lima

02/17/17 03:26 PM EST


Historians have ranked Barack Obama the 12th best president of all time, the highest rated since President Ronald Reagan, in a new C-SPAN survey released Friday.

Less than a month after exiting the White House, Obama received high marks from presidential historians for his pursuit of "equal justice for all" and for his commanding "moral authority," ranking third and seventh among all former presidents in each respective category. The 44th president also cracked a top 10 ranking for his "economic management" and public persuasion.

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[Idaho_Cowboy]

How the heck did he rate higher than Polk? Glad to Jefferson beat him though.

[TomSea]

Some folks here like Coolidge and Coolidge was indeed, a great president (civil rights, etc.), but the list has him at 27, Nixon at 28. I can see why Nixon would not be rated high but it still looks like a bogus list.

Criteria not listed. Very uncertain as to the listing.

[Cripplecreek]

History ain't over yet.

[TomSea]

LBJ 10th? That must really be pushing it.

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Dwight Eisenhower
6. Harry Truman
7. Thomas Jefferson
8. John F. Kennedy
9. Ronald Reagan
10. Lyndon Johnson
11. Woodrow Wilson
12. Barack Obama
13. James Monroe
14. James Polk
15. Bill Clinton
16. William McKinley
17. James Madison
18. Andrew Jackson
19. John Adams
20. George H.W. Bush
21. John Q. Adams
22. Ulysses Grant
23. Grover Cleveland
24. William Taft
25. Gerald Ford
26. Jimmy Carter
27. Calvin Coolidge
28. Richard Nixon
29. James Garfield
30. Benjamin Harrison
31. Zachary Taylor
32. Rutherford Hayes
33. George W. Bush
34. Martin Van Buren
35. Chester Arthur
36. Herbert Hoover
37. Millard Fillmore
38. William Harrison
39. John Tyler
40. Warren Harding
41. Franklin Pierce
42. Andrew Johnson
43. James Buchanan
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[jmyrlefuller]

Some folks here like Coolidge and Coolidge was indeed, a great president (civil rights, etc.), but the list has him at 27, Nixon at 28. I can see why Nixon would not be rated high but it still looks like a bogus list.

Criteria not listed. Very uncertain as to the listing.

Realize something here: it's an entirely subjective listing, based on the opinion of a group of people employed in colleges, universities and "think tank" foundations—a mostly liberal lot, of course.

Note that three of the top four oversaw expansive growth of government power. Note that President Lincoln gets first but everyone before and after him rank in the bottom three. Lincoln waged a bloody war against his own people. FDR of course established the entitlement system we have today. Teddy established the bureaucracy. Note that LBJ, who expanded the entitlement system to the modern level, is listed in the top 10, even though he botched Vietnam and ended up having to bow out of re-election in disgrace.

Yet Coolidge ranks 28th, even though the country was prosperous under him and the government actually paid down the national debt; he gets blamed for Hoover.

The liberal bias is obvious.

[Oceander]

/snicker

History's judgment - as opposed to that of a bunch of left-wing academics who call themselves historians - will be much less charitable to Obuttocks. 

[TomSea]

Realize something here: it's an entirely subjective listing, based on the opinion of a group of people employed in colleges, universities and "think tank" foundations—a mostly liberal lot, of course.

Note that three of the top four oversaw expansive growth of government power. Note that President Lincoln gets first but everyone before and after him rank in the bottom three. Lincoln waged a bloody war against his own people. FDR of course established the entitlement system we have today. Teddy established the bureaucracy. Note that LBJ, who expanded the entitlement system to the modern level, is listed in the top 10, even though he botched Vietnam and ended up having to bow out of re-election in disgrace.

Yet Coolidge ranks 28th, even though the country was prosperous under him and the government actually paid down the national debt; he gets blamed for Hoover.

The liberal bias is obvious.

So, you would prefer a president who allowed Slavery?

Lincoln was the best president, it's not his fault if some people defended a modern day evil.

[Emjay]

Survey: Historians rank Obama 12th best president

By Cristiano Lima

02/17/17 03:26 PM EST


Historians have ranked Barack Obama the 12th best president of all time, the highest rated since President Ronald Reagan, in a new C-SPAN survey released Friday.

Less than a month after exiting the White House, Obama received high marks from presidential historians for his pursuit of "equal justice for all" and for his commanding "moral authority," ranking third and seventh among all former presidents in each respective category. The 44th president also cracked a top 10 ranking for his "economic management" and public persuasion.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/all-time-best-president-united-states-rankings-235149

That makes me lose faith in whoever those 'historians' are.  His supposed virtue was that he would make race relations better.  In fact, he was a black president elected by whites.

In fact, he made them worse and did nothing of note except pass a failed health care plan and make us weaker as a nation against enemies.

[Emjay]

So, you would prefer a president who allowed Slavery?

Lincoln was the best president, it's not his fault if some people defended a modern day evil.

This ranks high on the list of your most inane comments (and it's a long list)

[bigheadfred]

Look on the bright side.

Obama is history.

[jmyrlefuller]

So, you would prefer a president who allowed Slavery?

Lincoln was the best president, it's not his fault if some people defended a modern day evil.

I didn't say that.

Was ending slavery, an achievement the rest of the Western world managed to pull off far more peaceably, worth the brutal war, the loss of rights, and the gross expansion of the U.S. government's power? Furthermore, why does Lincoln get all the credit when most of the longer-term effects of Lincoln's power grab took place under Johnson and Grant? We're still dealing with the misapplication of the 14th Amendment to this day!

[truth_seeker]

I read elsewhere that Obama was ranked 5th

George Washington was 1st
Abraham Lincoln was 2nd
13 others were tied for 3rd
29 were tied for 4th
Obama was 5th
 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Obama's legacy has yet to be written.---so the historians would do well to stand down.


 

[240B]

Obama's greatest attribute as President is that he spent so much time golfing, or on vacation, or partying, or sleeping, or fund raising, or campaigning, or just generally goofing off, that he got very little of what he wanted to do done.

If Obama had been anything at all like Trump, we would all be living in a totalitarian State by now. There would be no elections, no guns, and all media: radio, television, print, and internet, would be controlled by the White House. And, America would be absolutely flooded with Muslims from all over the world.

Thank God for Obama's immaturity. Obama's laziness saved America as we know it.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Obama's greatest attribute as President is that he spent so much time golfing, or on vacation, or partying, or sleeping, or fund raising, or campaigning, or just generally goofing off, that he got very little of what he wanted to do done.

If Obama had been anything at all like Trump, we would all be living in a totalitarian State by now. There would be no elections, no guns, and all media: radio, television, print, and internet, would be controlled by the White House. And, America would be absolutely flooded with Muslims from all over the world.

Thank God for Obama's immaturity. Obama's laziness saved America as we know it.

Great points @240B --- had Obama had energy and focus, he would have destroyed us.  Thank God for Obama's bong. 

[Oceander]

Look on the bright side.

Obama is history.

Good point!!!

[Bigun]

A Texas A&M University Study rates Obama as the “5th Best President in our history

 "From a total of 44 US Presidents: Obama is rated as the 5th best President ever The news release said,"...after only 5 years in office, Americans have rated President Obama the 5th best President ever." The details according to Texas A&M University:



1) Washington, Lincoln and Reagan tied for first,
2) 22 presidents tied for second,
3) 17 other presidents tied for third,
4) Jimmy Carter came in fourth, and
5) Obama came in fifth!

[Norm Lenhart]

This is why allowing liberals into academia was perhaps the single most damaging thing America ever did to itself.

[Emjay]

Look on the bright side.

Obama is history.

If only he were.  I think he's working harder now than when he was the laziest president.

He's having fun trying to discredit Trump.

[Emjay]

I didn't say that.

Was ending slavery, an achievement the rest of the Western world managed to pull off far more peaceably, worth the brutal war, the loss of rights, and the gross expansion of the U.S. government's power? Furthermore, why does Lincoln get all the credit when most of the longer-term effects of Lincoln's power grab took place under Johnson and Grant? We're still dealing with the misapplication of the 14th Amendment to this day!

What you said !

[RedHead]

Way too early for ranking Obama.

[RedHead]

Lincoln waged a bloody war against his own people.

Lincoln fought the bloody war that was forced on him.

[RedHead]

Was ending slavery, an achievement the rest of the Western world managed to pull off far more peaceably, worth the brutal war, the loss of rights, and the gross expansion of the U.S. government's power?

I would point out that the rest of the world didn't have a large section of their country willing to launch a brutal rebellion to defend slavery.

[240B]

I would point out that the rest of the world didn't have a large section of their country willing to launch a brutal rebellion to defend slavery.

The Civil War was not primarily about slavery. It was about the right of States vs. the Federal.