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Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« on: October 18, 2016, 01:37:05 pm »
 Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House

A top conservative super PAC is dropping millions in districts once thought invincible for the GOP.

By Rachael Bade and Jake Sherman

10/17/16 07:58 PM EDT

Updated 10/17/16 08:34 PM EDT

The top House Republican super PAC had always planned to spend big to protect GOP lawmakers in Democratic-friendly districts. But Donald Trump’s free fall is forcing American Action Network and its sister PAC, Congressional Leadership Fund, to also shell out millions in red-leaning districts that weren’t even in play until this month.

Their suddenly urgent mission: Build a firewall to prevent a Democratic takeover of the House.

With Trump fending off allegations of sexual harassment and his tanking numbers threatening to pull down once-safe GOP lawmakers, this is what 2016 now looks like for the pair of related conservative outside groups: They're dropping $500,000 on TV ads in deep-red Utah to protect Rep. Mia Love, whose Mormon-heavy district has recoiled from Trump’s vulgar comments about women. They’re spending another $700,000 in Tucson, Arizona, to protect freshman Rep. Martha McSally, a retired Air Force colonel who has comfortably led her Democratic challenger all year. And they're working to shore up conservative-leaning districts in the Central Valley of California, western Colorado, upstate New York and Michigan.

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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2016, 02:08:25 pm »
Things must be even more bleak than I thought if the GOP is worried about losing the majority in the House.
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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2016, 02:16:16 pm »
Nice. 25 years after they helped destroy it,they want to protect it.

Which,by extension,they want to protect the damage they have done to make sure no repairs are made.

Name ONE prominent Republican conservative that chairs a powerful committee.
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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2016, 04:12:03 pm »
GOP......

YANK EVERY $ FROM TRUMP ASAP!!!!!!
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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2016, 04:16:13 pm »
I'd just like to point out that had people listened to us awful 'purists' that said "elect principled people", the House and senate would be in no danger at all. Because the voters could trust the people they elected.

The fact that people CANNOT trust the people they elected is exactly the reason the House and Senate are in danger.

So myself and the other evil, vile, know it all, purist scum that were once again correct will be over to the side murmuring "we told you so'.

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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2016, 04:18:39 pm »
I'd just like to point out that had people listened to us awful 'purists' that said "elect principled people", the House and senate would be in no danger at all. Because the voters could trust the people they elected.

The fact that people CANNOT trust the people they elected is exactly the reason the House and Senate are in danger.

So myself and the other evil, vile, know it all, purist scum that were once again correct will be over to the side murmuring "we told you so'.

@Norm Lenhart

Copied and pasted verbatim because it needs to be read as a complete statement over and over until it sinks in.
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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2016, 04:20:00 pm »
RCP shows that even if the GOP lost every "in play" HoR seat, they'd still have control.

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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2016, 04:20:49 pm »
I'd just like to point out that had people listened to us awful 'purists' that said "elect principled people", the House and senate would be in no danger at all. Because the voters could trust the people they elected.

The fact that people CANNOT trust the people they elected is exactly the reason the House and Senate are in danger.

So myself and the other evil, vile, know it all, purist scum that were once again correct will be over to the side murmuring "we told you so'.

Well stated.  I still can not believe such a big faction of the GOP got duped this badly.  Hopefully lessons will have been learned.
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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2016, 04:23:05 pm »
RCP shows that even if the GOP lost every "in play" HoR seat, they'd still have control.

RCP and polling in general have been historically inaccurate predicting House races.   

So don't fool yourself in thinking a Clinton landslide might not tilt the house blue.
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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2016, 04:25:28 pm »
Well stated.  I still can not believe such a big faction of the GOP got duped this badly.  Hopefully lessons will have been learned.

Not a chance in hell. They should have learned when McCain, then Romney threw their elections (I learned my lesson with McCain and the shame will never leave me). They will run Al Gore next time and call him a compromise candidate.

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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2016, 05:06:40 pm »
It's what, 3 weeks until the election?  Plenty of time to pull it off.


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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2016, 05:09:11 pm »
I'd just like to point out that had people listened to us awful 'purists' that said "elect principled people", the House and senate would be in no danger at all. Because the voters could trust the people they elected.

The fact that people CANNOT trust the people they elected is exactly the reason the House and Senate are in danger.

So myself and the other evil, vile, know it all, purist scum that were once again correct will be over to the side murmuring "we told you so'.

Who's going to be murmuring?  I'll be shouting it from the rooftops. 

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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2016, 05:10:07 pm »
GOP......

YANK EVERY $ FROM TRUMP ASAP!!!!!!


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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2016, 05:14:32 pm »
Who's going to be murmuring?  I'll be shouting it from the rooftops.

I figured it would be more smug if we murmured. Gotta keep up appearances of being egotistical self centered know it all purists you know!

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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2016, 05:24:10 pm »
Not a chance in hell. They should have learned when McCain, then Romney threw their elections (I learned my lesson with McCain and the shame will never leave me). They will run Al Gore next time and call him a compromise candidate.

@Norm Lenhart

Yup,and if Goober attends a few church meetings and gets declared at being religious,the so-called "conservatives" on the so-called "Religious Right" will stand in line to vote for him.

Too many people confuse Christianity with conservatism,and it's not. It's a form of socialism. Being a "conservative" in America doesn't mean the same thing as being a "conservative" in Europe or anywhere else in the world because OUR history is unique. We have NEVER had an official religion,and despite the best efforts of both the Catholic and the Protestant Churches,they have never even came close to dominating government in any more than a lip service fashion.

Now we have the Muslims attempting to dominate our government,and due to words not meaning anything anymore in a world were homosexuals,probably the most depressed group of Americans in existence are called "gay" and outright Marxist fascists are called "Liberals",who the hell knows what anything means anymore?
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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2016, 05:29:38 pm »
Things must be even more bleak than I thought if the GOP is worried about losing the majority in the House.


You deliberately pick a fight with 75% of your base and yeah,  you stand a good chance of losing your seats in the House. 

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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2016, 05:30:52 pm »

You deliberately pick a fight with 75% of your base and yeah,  you stand a good chance of losing your seats in the House. 



Huh?  Trumps base ain't 75% of the GOP. 

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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2016, 05:31:49 pm »

You deliberately pick a fight with 75% of your base and yeah,  you stand a good chance of losing your seats in the House.


 :silly:  Idiot response. They're distancing themselves from the idiot candidate that idiots like YOU put there.

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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2016, 05:44:20 pm »
I'd just like to point out that had people listened to us awful 'purists' that said "elect principled people", the House and senate would be in no danger at all. Because the voters could trust the people they elected.




Norm,  every crackpot believes things would be great if people would just listen to him.   They squeal with glee at every perceived setback for those who did not listen to them,  and they cheer for the destruction of those who did not listen to them.   


You and your cadre of like minded folk  remind me of the attitude of the prophet Jonah. 



And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.


So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
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And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

So Jonah went out of the city, and sat on the east side of the city, and there made him a booth, and sat under it in the shadow, till he might see what would become of the city.

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Therefore now, O LORD, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live. 4Then said the LORD, Doest thou well to be angry?



Doest thou well to be angry?   
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2016, 05:45:41 pm »
Huh?  Trumps base ain't 75% of the GOP.


It is now.   It wasn't earlier,  but it is now.  It's probably more than that now.  It might even be 90% at this point.   





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Re: Republicans rush to build firewall to save the House
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2016, 05:46:36 pm »

 :silly:  Idiot response. They're distancing themselves from the idiot candidate that idiots like YOU put there.


Voting for Cruz  caused Trump to win?  How does that work,  or do you want to rethink which one of us has made an "idiot response."   


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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2016, 05:46:48 pm »

It is now.   It wasn't earlier,  but it is now.  It's probably more than that now.  It might even be 90% at this point.


No, not even close.

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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2016, 05:49:06 pm »

No, not even close.



So how much support does he currently have with the Republican base?   How about you put out a number so we can see if you have any awareness of the real world,  or whether you are locked in an echo chamber of your own mind. 


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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2016, 05:49:22 pm »

It is now.   It wasn't earlier,  but it is now.  It's probably more than that now.  It might even be 90% at this point.

90% of a decimated start number? How many people left the party over Trump? Before even? You could have 100% and still not be close to the numbers you need to win.

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So how much support does he currently have with the Republican base?   How about you put out a number so we can see if you have any awareness of the real world,  or whether you are locked in an echo chamber of your own mind.


Haha, the violence promoting loony toons kook known as Diogenes Lamp thinks I live in an echo chamber?


Look at Trump's poll numbers... going down, down, down.