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Offline XenaLee

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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2016, 02:55:59 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on August 25, 2016, 02:52:57 pm
Anyone using the cowardly bullying statements "someone is on my ignore list" in a public forum has whatever is coming to them if they are called something in my book.

These personal attacks as the above statement  is are made to avoid an honest discourse of the issues.

To say Cruz's immigration positions have nothing to do with what is discussed is ridiculous.

And yet.....Cruz isn't the nominee and Cruz isn't the one who just flip-flopped away from his "signature issue" stance.  But Cruz IS the one that warned everyone that Trump would indeed go back on each and every damned campaign promise he has made.   Cruz was and is spot-frickin-on.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2016, 03:09:14 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on August 25, 2016, 02:45:13 am
Cruz likewise altered his position, Numbers USA documented the change.

If one person had a Conservative view throughout, that was Rick Santorum.

Cruz also came out for "legal residency" for illegals.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/03/senator_ted_cruzs_contradictory_position_on_illegal_immigration.html

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/12/politics/ted-cruz-immigration-h1-b-visas/index.html

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-ted-cruz-opens-up-on-immigration/article/2530773

http://immigrationimpact.com/2015/03/23/ted-cruz-immigration/

Can I take that your opinion is now that Trump is more like Cruz after all!
I don't agree with that myself, but you are comparing that they have both changed positions, so Trump is now a Cruzbot.
Excellent.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2016, 03:12:49 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on August 25, 2016, 03:09:14 pm
Can I take that your opinion is now that Trump is more like Cruz after all!
I don't agree with that myself, but you are comparing that they have both changed positions, so Trump is now a Cruzbot.
Excellent.

Except Cruz toughened his position, while Trump is softening his.

That makes Donald a Yebbot.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2016, 04:02:39 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on August 25, 2016, 03:09:14 pm
Can I take that your opinion is now that Trump is more like Cruz after all!
I don't agree with that myself, but you are comparing that they have both changed positions, so Trump is now a Cruzbot.
Excellent.

Yes.......but....but....but......

if Trump sez it it's pure gold!  And if Cruz sez it....it's eeeeevil!   That's how things work (or rather, don't work) in the minds of the Trumpbots.

It's the faulty programming.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2016, 04:06:17 pm »
I think we are going to be hearing alot of "we told ya so" going forward as it pertains to Mr Trump
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2016, 04:28:49 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on August 25, 2016, 02:38:26 am
Which also makes him "Hillary-lite"....since Hillary is "Obama-lite".
I disagree, Hillary has a good 20-25 lbs on Obozo, she is not anything light. Heck look at her Cankles.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2016, 04:46:27 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on August 25, 2016, 02:00:15 pm
The action is not,  I may do that on my control panel. That is not a personal attack.

Stating it to grandstand in a certain way in a forum is a way to marginalize someone and I think a clear personal attack.
@TomSea Please consider yourself further marginalized by me.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #58 on: August 25, 2016, 04:48:01 pm »
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #59 on: August 25, 2016, 05:31:07 pm »
Well, he did - tell them so.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #60 on: August 25, 2016, 05:55:51 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on August 25, 2016, 02:52:36 am
That's all bullshit Tom, but post whatever drivel you like. Your guy is a 100% fraud, thief and a liar and you have absolutely nothing to defend him with now.

BTW Donny thinks Zero is doing a great job on immigration. Wouldn't change a thing as a matter of fact. Doesn't that make you feel like a jackass to still be pimping for him after telling us what a strong leader he would be on immigration?

I heartedly SECOND THAT!
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #61 on: August 25, 2016, 05:58:40 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on August 25, 2016, 01:27:38 pm
Enforcement of the laws, that's what Trump is offering. As has been said, if we apply existing laws, we don't need new ones.

No citizenship nor nada.

Bringing up Cruz is pure distraction.

Trump has flip-flopped and is supporting amnesty. "No citizenship"? The courts will change that if you let them stay.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #62 on: August 25, 2016, 06:37:30 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 25, 2016, 05:12:51 am
Does that include fast-tracking muslims from conflict areas?

What? Even tRump can not predict what tRump will say next!

America is faced with playing Russian Roullette. Hitlery's pistol has all cylinders loaded with hollow-point 44 magnums and tRump's has one empty cylinder and 5 loaded with 22s.

We are seriously up Shitz Creek.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #63 on: August 25, 2016, 06:49:04 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on August 25, 2016, 01:35:46 pm
Wow.  Just wow.   You make a personal attack....call someone (else) an idiot.....and accuse someone (else) of making a personal attack in the process.

Did you train for this?  Or does it just come naturally.  (rhetorical ?)
Trump yoga. It's requirement to stay limber for the strenuous pretzel logic employed.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #64 on: August 25, 2016, 11:26:12 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on August 25, 2016, 02:00:15 pm
The action is not,  I may do that on my control panel. That is not a personal attack.

Stating it to grandstand in a certain way in a forum is a way to marginalize someone and I think a clear personal attack.

Umm...no, it's not a clear personal attack, or a personal attack of any sort.  As to whether you actually thought about that or just emoted an angry response because you wanted some pretext to do so, I can't say.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #65 on: August 25, 2016, 11:54:57 pm »
Quote from: Unlimited on August 25, 2016, 11:36:06 pm
By me as well.  Reading this thread with all the whining has given me a headache.  I'd like to avoid future headaches.
@TomSea I won't marginalize you, but only because I know margarine isn't as healthy as butter. I might consider larding it over you however.  :pondering:
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #66 on: August 25, 2016, 11:59:00 pm »
Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on August 25, 2016, 11:54:57 pm
@TomSea I won't marginalize you, but only because I know margarine isn't as healthy as butter. I might consider larding it over you however.  :pondering:


Oh, Lardy... He who would pun, would pick a pocket.  888high58888
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2016, 12:01:46 am »
Quote from: XenaLee on August 25, 2016, 02:55:59 pm
And yet.....Cruz isn't the nominee and Cruz isn't the one who just flip-flopped away from his "signature issue" stance.  But Cruz IS the one that warned everyone that Trump would indeed go back on each and every damned campaign promise he has made.   Cruz was and is spot-frickin-on.

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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2016, 12:08:06 am »
Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on August 25, 2016, 11:54:57 pm
@TomSea I won't marginalize you, but only because I know margarine isn't as healthy as butter. I might consider larding it over you however.  :pondering:

Hilarious.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #69 on: August 26, 2016, 12:10:21 am »
Quote from: XenaLee on August 25, 2016, 02:55:59 pm
And yet.....Cruz isn't the nominee and Cruz isn't the one who just flip-flopped away from his "signature issue" stance.  But Cruz IS the one that warned everyone that Trump would indeed go back on each and every damned campaign promise he has made.   Cruz was and is spot-frickin-on.

As libertybell has noted... this is spot on.

What could have been, now we get a democrat by any other name. trump/Hillary   GOPE/DNC.. the uniparty.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2016, 12:13:09 am »
Quote from: HonestJohn on August 26, 2016, 12:10:51 am
What's insulting about someone putting you on ignore?

And to someone who supports Trump, how can the term 'Trumpkin' be insulting.  It's simply a term referring to someone who supports Trump.  Unless you've got doubts about your candidate, I really can't see how you'd be offended by someone telling you that you support your candidate.

I mean, I was a Rubio-bot.  And never once did I find that insulting, because I was proud to have supported him.  And I still am.

Right?... Must be a guilt complex or something.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2016, 12:16:01 am »
Levin: It turns out Trump was 'one of the most liberal' Republicans running

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/08/levin-it-turns-out-trump-was-one-of-the-most-liberal-republicans-running

Thursday evening on the Mark Levin radio show, Conservative Review’s Editor-in-Chief noted the remarkable silence of Trump’s ardent supporters on his adoption of Jeb Bush’s position on amnesty.

The “irony” of the Republican primary, Levin said, is the Alt-Right hates Ted Cruz because he refuses to buckle on the Constitution, and yet Donald Trump has buckled on amnesty.

“Trump’s position is effectively the position Jeb Bush has held for a decade,” Levin said. “Trump’s position is the same position he trashed in the Republican primary process.”

“He ran in the Republican primary, this was one of his marquee issues—trashed anybody who disagreed with him, and now he sounds like them!”
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #72 on: August 26, 2016, 12:20:12 am »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on August 26, 2016, 12:16:01 am
Levin: It turns out Trump was 'one of the most liberal' Republicans running

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/08/levin-it-turns-out-trump-was-one-of-the-most-liberal-republicans-running

Thursday evening on the Mark Levin radio show, Conservative Review’s Editor-in-Chief noted the remarkable silence of Trump’s ardent supporters on his adoption of Jeb Bush’s position on amnesty.

The “irony” of the Republican primary, Levin said, is the Alt-Right hates Ted Cruz because he refuses to buckle on the Constitution, and yet Donald Trump has buckled on amnesty.

“Trump’s position is effectively the position Jeb Bush has held for a decade,” Levin said. “Trump’s position is the same position he trashed in the Republican primary process.”

“He ran in the Republican primary, this was one of his marquee issues—trashed anybody who disagreed with him, and now he sounds like them!”


It's been obvious for quite a while that Trump is a liberal.
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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #73 on: August 26, 2016, 12:26:07 am »
Quote from: libertybele on August 26, 2016, 12:20:12 am
It's been obvious for quite a while all the way along that Trump is a liberal.

fixed.

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Re: Team Cruz on Trump’s immigration shift: Told you so
« Reply #74 on: August 26, 2016, 12:50:41 am »
Quote from: geronl on August 25, 2016, 05:58:40 pm
Bringing up Cruz is pure distraction.

Trump has flip-flopped and is supporting amnesty. "No citizenship"? The courts will change that if you let them stay.

Worse than that, I would say that Trump has always supported amnesty.

He wants a touchback legalization amnesty similar to the one his VP wanted back in '06.

And he is on record in August of 2015 as saying that he would even consider a citizenship amnesty later.
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