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Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« on: August 15, 2016, 01:37:56 pm »
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291422-trump-to-propose-ideological-tests-for-immigrants-during

August 15, 2016, 07:41 am


Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump on Monday will reportedly propose ideological tests for immigrants to assess whether people looking to come into the country support of American values.


During a foreign policy speech in Ohio on Monday, the GOP nominee will say the test to admit people into the country should ask the candidate about issues including religious freedom, gender equality and gay rights, according to the Associated Press.
The tests, which seek values such as tolerance and pluralism, would include questionnaires, social media assessments and interviews with friends and family.

The Republican presidential nominee in his speech will call on replacing nation building with "foreign policy realism," aides told the AP.

Trump will say the country needs to work with anyone who wants to defeat "radical Islamic terrorism."

"Mr. Trump's speech will explain that while we can't choose our friends, we must always recognize our enemies," Trump senior policy adviser Stephen Miller said Sunday, according to the AP.

The GOP nominee will also say the United States shouldn't be issuing visas unless it's able to carry out adequate screenings.

"As he laid out in his Orlando remarks, Mr. Trump will describe the need to temporarily suspend visa issuances to geographic regions with a history of exporting terrorism and where adequate checks and background vetting cannot occur," Miller said.

Trump will say the country is in an ideological conflict with radical Islam.

The GOP nominee will also continue to criticize President Obama and and Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton for their State Department policies. Trump faced backlash last week after he called Obama the founder of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria — comments which he later wrote off as sarcasm.

"Mr. Trump will outline his vision for defeating radical Islamic terrorism, and explain how the policies of Obama-Clinton are responsible for the rise of ISIS and the spread of barbarism that has taken the lives of so many," Miller said.
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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2016, 01:39:34 pm »
Good, the USA does not need to turn into another Brazil.

Brazil has its great points but obviously, some very negative bad ones as well.

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2016, 01:40:59 pm »
Is Trump going to ban himself?
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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2016, 02:07:57 pm »
Upon reading the headline I thought maybe I would agree with Trump's proposal. Then I saw what issues he proposes to specifically query candidates on.

He would've been far better off had he suggested we screen immigrants on their grasp of basic American concepts of individual liberties rather than whether or not they agree with issues currently pushed by protected special interests.

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2016, 02:23:03 pm »
Trump looking to institute political tests for immigrants

Expected to say he will join with any nation that wants to work together to destroy terrorism.  Whether they have been past enemies or not.  I would expect he is talking about Russia.

I wonder if some of those Evangelicals care to examine what the Bible says?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-looking-institute-political-tests-immigrants-074421028--election.html

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2016, 02:31:33 pm »
Learn to like the taste of Putin's butt.

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2016, 02:33:16 pm »
Isn't Russia supposed to align with nations against Israel?

 
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2016, 02:33:39 pm »
Upon reading the headline I thought maybe I would agree with Trump's proposal. Then I saw what issues he proposes to specifically query candidates on.

He would've been far better off had he suggested we screen immigrants on their grasp of basic American concepts of individual liberties rather than whether or not they agree with issues currently pushed by protected special interests.

Just what questions does Trump propose be asked about gender equality and gay rights? 

And, unless he can guarantee applicants won't lie, this kind of thing is essentially meaningless.
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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2016, 02:35:46 pm »
Unless an immigrant is in favor of gay rights, he/she won't be admitted.

That's in the proposal.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2016, 02:50:53 pm »
Isn't Russia supposed to align with nations against Israel?

Russia currently is relatively friendly with Israel but they could go either way.

I am concerned with some of what has come out of the Trump camp regarding Israel. For instance, General Flynn who has suggested that Israel needs to disarm to bring peace to the mideast.

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2016, 03:04:36 pm »
There's that taqiyya thing-muslims have no problem lying to gain the trust of "non-believers"in order to use our values and freedoms against us with the goal to impose their socio-political system on us.
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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2016, 03:09:13 pm »
There's that taqiyya thing-muslims have no problem lying to gain the trust of "non-believers"in order to use our values and freedoms against us with the goal to impose their socio-political system on us.

No fair injecting reality into the narrative.


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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2016, 03:11:00 pm »
Please use source headline for topic titles in Politics category.

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2016, 03:33:18 pm »
Unless an immigrant is in favor of gay rights, he/she won't be admitted.

That's in the proposal.

Natch.  Cause....only a real life liberal would care about that particular criteria.
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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2016, 03:34:32 pm »
Russia currently is relatively friendly with Israel but they could go either way.

I am concerned with some of what has come out of the Trump camp regarding Israel. For instance, General Flynn who has suggested that Israel needs to disarm to bring peace to the mideast.

Yet another wet dream, perhaps the biggest wet dream, of the radical leftists.  Ain't gonna happen....evah.
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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2016, 12:47:33 am »
While all the Trump fans are cheering yea, ra, ra, Make America Great Again, well, I hate to disappoint you, but all he did was just propose the current system.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps-proposed-test-for-immigrants-already-exists-2016-08-15?link=sfmw_fb

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2016, 01:00:22 am »
While all the Trump fans are cheering yea, ra, ra, Make America Great Again, well, I hate to disappoint you, but all he did was just propose the current system.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps-proposed-test-for-immigrants-already-exists-2016-08-15?link=sfmw_fb
Has Trump ever heard of "Taqqiya"?

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2016, 01:16:54 am »
While all the Trump fans are cheering yea, ra, ra, Make America Great Again, well, I hate to disappoint you, but all he did was just propose the current system.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps-proposed-test-for-immigrants-already-exists-2016-08-15?link=sfmw_fb
Well apparently Obama and Hillary didn't get the memo.

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2016, 01:34:01 am »
While all the Trump fans are cheering yea, ra, ra, Make America Great Again, well, I hate to disappoint you, but all he did was just propose the current system.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps-proposed-test-for-immigrants-already-exists-2016-08-15?link=sfmw_fb

Yeah.  I noticed that, too.


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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2016, 01:35:45 am »
Yeah.  I noticed that, too.
Yeah I'm sure all those Somalis in Minnesota and Maine were "vetted".

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2016, 02:06:23 am »
A: Are you a terrorist?

B.Are you planning to become a terrorist?

C. Do you believe in freedom of religion?

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2016, 02:11:54 am »
I think he made a lot of sense for a change, and I applaud it.

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2016, 02:17:44 am »
I think he made a lot of sense for a change, and I applaud it.

It's not like they would ever lie on the questionnaire  :silly:

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2016, 02:21:24 am »
Is this going to apply to visitors (i.e., non-immigrants), or just to people seeking immigrant status?  If to visitors, then it's unworkable.  If to those seeking immigrant status, then I would recommend that the test currently used for naturalization be extended and applied to those seeking immigrant status.  The test is actually quite a bit of work, and goes for exactly the sorts of things he mentions:  https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/naturalization-test

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Re: Report: Trump to propose ideological tests for immigrants
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2016, 02:27:42 am »
Nonsense.  If you have an immigrant that anyone thinks needs to take such a test, that should be grounds for immediate denial to immigrate right there.

No other way to do it and ameliorate the risk, which grows with every single successful terrorist hit.

This is our country.  We do not have to allow unlimited immigration, and we had better damned well start denying entry before we have a fifth column on our hands, if we don't already...

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