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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2016, 01:21:24 am »
No comparison.  Trump will not actively campaign to overturn citizens united.


Trump want to expand the libel laws against the newspaper.
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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2016, 01:27:25 am »
For me the point is that we have not had a fighter since Reagan in 76 and 80.  McCain did not fight.  Romney certainly did not fight.  Even W Bush won in 04 because the SWIFT boat guys bailed him out.

Kerry and media likely would have rolled W with the SWIFT guys and even then the margin was not huge.

Now we can say Trump is ham-handed and even gauche, but at least he is fighting.

No, he isn't.  He's flailing and lashing out when he feels personally attacked.  That's not fighting.

He's mentally unstable.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2016, 01:27:45 am »
You can be anti-trump and say anti-trump things .  But you cant hit the soft DELETE key by calling those would say positive things about Trump, 'Trumpkins' and worse.

You dont understand your own strength or power.

Effectively, you are deleting posts before they are ever written! 

Which I suppose is very efficient from a mod point of view. :smokin:

But remember, we did not like it when the Trump mods 'hard' deleted posts which went against their preferences. 


And yet you want to muzzle me by leveling criticism that I'm expressing anti-Trump opinions as a moderator.

I think I was fair during the Conventions although everybody on this forum knows how I feel about Trump.

In two weeks, I've taken down half a post, from a NeverTrump supporter.  As long as there's not profanity or personal attacks, discussion should continue.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2016, 01:28:46 am »

What makes you think that Trump won't go after the first and tenth amendment??

Trump is no friend of the first amendment and you can tell every time someone opposes him and he immediately starts declaring that they have no right to speak against him.






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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2016, 01:30:35 am »
That was just the first result. Google rally clean up or similar search terms.

I agree too.  I've seen that the Dems are the ones that leave terrible trash.   With this clan  Trump can do nothing right. He breathes and   the anti-trump crowd  says he did it for himself. ****sheep****

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« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2016, 01:35:58 am »
It looks like the Republican love of our military was just skin-deep.  The hate of those that guard our freedoms just waiting to boil out (at least, from those that love Trump).

It's sad that the Democrats are now the party who now love our military.

While Trump launches attack after attack on our heros, Hillary and Obama are going on the news saying that our military is the best trained and best equipped in the world.  And that we all owe them a debt of gratitude.  (not kidding)

It may be as fake as Trump's tan, but they aren't attacking our own.  Trump, and from the article - his supporters, are.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2016, 01:36:16 am »
You can be anti-trump and say anti-trump things .  But you cant hit the soft DELETE key by calling those would say positive things about Trump, 'Trumpkins' and worse.

You dont understand your own strength or power.

Effectively, you are deleting posts before they are ever written! 

Which I suppose is very efficient from a mod point of view. :smokin:

But remember, we did not like it when the Trump mods 'hard' deleted posts which went against their preferences.

Can anyone but me see that this is a DEM  dirty trick??  Even some of the media called it a trap  that Trump fell in.  And that woman at the Pence rally was most likely a plant---well organized.   They gotta make sure that SOCIALISM is not hindered.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2016, 01:39:36 am »
He already came out against it. He has the same position on it as Hillary.

A revelation that won't change their mind. Not one bit. It's set in stone like Trumps. It's August First and Trump still goes on about Ted Cruz, Teh Donnie is a complete lunatic.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2016, 02:29:38 am »
It's all out there for Americans to see.  EVERYBODY knows what Trump is.

The problem is no longer Trump.  It's his supporters.  Those who defend him, those who act as if he's some kind of savior, those who change the subject, those who act as if none of this matters.

Trump would quit the race if enough people disavowed him.  He's a coward and can't stand losing. 

So, Trumpkins.  What say you. It WILL get worse.  The longer you hang on to this sewer rat, the harder it will be to disavow him later.

And let this be your legacy:  if he should somehow get elected, the rest of the country will hang his perversity around your necks.

This is so familiar.  It happened with Obama.  Remember all the crap he did and said and they worshiped him. 
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2016, 03:06:58 pm »
Very sad

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Yet we're expected to align ourselves with people like that and believe that something good will come of it.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2016, 03:09:39 pm »
@Cripplecreek

Yet we're expected to align ourselves with people like that and believe that something good will come of it.

Cindy Sheehan was treated better by conservatives.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2016, 03:27:30 pm »
This is how Ted Cruz handled the Code Pink protestors who tried to disrupt him.

He let them have their say as long as they were civil, he respected their right to speak and he also admonished his supporters for trying to shout them down, asking them to also be respectful. 

He engaged and debated them on the issues and with facts, and not speaking from a teleprompter and without resorting to name calling or having them removed nor asking his supporters to punch them in the face.

True leadership on display.  He could have been our GOP nominee. But we have Trump.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2016, 03:36:37 pm »
This is how Ted Cruz handled the Code Pink protestors who tried to disrupt him.

He let them have their say as long as they were civil, he respected their right to speak and he also admonished his supporters for trying to shout them down, asking them to also be respectful. 

He engaged and debated them on the issues and with facts, and not speaking from a teleprompter and without resorting to name calling or having them removed nor asking his supporters to punch them in the face.

True leadership on display.  He could have been our GOP nominee. But we have Trump.

 **nononono*


Its far more effective to engage them rationally (If you can)

Ted Cruz engaging code pink like that touched off a fight within Code Pink with one side pointing out that Ted Cruz showed respect that they never get from democrats and the other side screaming that they should have disrupted more. The point is that Ted Cruz earned some respect.

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@txjean2014 @RichardJSunkle @tedcruz I have never supported Cruz but respect that he told Trump he wouldn't and he didn't. He showed up.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2016, 03:44:03 pm »
Cindy Sheehan was treated better by conservatives.


I think we all knew that Cindy Sheehan was being used. FWIW, I mocked her but after awhile, I felt bad for mocking her after realizing she was being used.
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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2016, 03:46:35 pm »

I think we all knew that Cindy Sheehan was being used. FWIW, I mocked her but after awhile, I felt bad for mocking her after realizing she was being used.

Yeah I mocked her as well but if I were to encounter her I would show her respect.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2016, 04:13:49 pm »
Yeah I mocked her as well but if I were to encounter her I would show her respect.


Same here.. To me showing respect is good value and not being PC..
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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2016, 04:18:02 pm »
This is how Ted Cruz handled the Code Pink protestors who tried to disrupt him.

He let them have their say as long as they were civil, he respected their right to speak and he also admonished his supporters for trying to shout them down, asking them to also be respectful. 

He engaged and debated them on the issues and with facts, and not speaking from a teleprompter and without resorting to name calling or having them removed nor asking his supporters to punch them in the face.

True leadership on display.  He could have been our GOP nominee. But we have Trump.

 **nononono*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QCbpafD3Pw

What a remarkable exchange!

Just think how different things would be if we had an intelligent, thoughtful, well-informed mature (moral) MAN as our nominee instead of this self-absorbed, ignorant, bull-headed, amoral BOY named Donald Trump!

I weep for what is going to happen to America because of the foolishness of its people.
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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2016, 04:21:56 pm »

Same here.. To me showing respect is good value and not being PC..

It's interesting that in the convoluted "thinking" of the Trump crowd, basic respect, Biblical behavior, and common decency are belittled as merely being PC.   And in doing so have excused vulgarity, indecency, rudeness and just plain meanness as the way we should behave.

They have taken a wrong in American culture and exacerbated it by distorting truth and letting their demons out in the name of being non-PC.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2016, 04:44:36 pm »

Same here.. To me showing respect is good value and not being PC..

Somewhere along the line, the opposite of PC changed from mutual respect to being an ass.

Political correctness, at its core, is trying to control or suppress the speech of others because it offends you.

The opposite of this should be respecting each other's rights and beliefs so we don't try to control them but just acknowledge the difference and let them have their liberty to be wrong, not trying to control them.

It has morphed into just shouting down the other side; in other words, just another form of being PC.
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« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2016, 05:07:05 pm »
The disgust I feel at Trump's campaign is visceral.  Every headline makes me want to run for the shower.

It feels as though the whole mess is heading downhill very fast.

That's how I feel, too. I'm in Spain right now, and it is so hard to explain to people how something like Trump ever happened. And btw, they don't like Hillary either. 

The only consolation - or maybe truly scary thing - is that this is happening everywhere. The Spanish had a truly nutcase Marxist populist party surge out of nowhere, led by a frothing at the mouth young ignoramus who had even been caught for welfare fraud, which has made it impossible for them to get a majority to govern. The name of his party is Podemos, which means, basically, "Yes, we can."  Sound familiar? 

They have a parliamentary system, so the governing party has to build coalitions, which is impossible with this guy. This means they may have to have a THIRD general election.  Granted the two major parties here have been disappointments, like ours, but even thinking leftist Spaniards are embarrassed by Podemos.

And then to top it off we have the ignorant, low-IQ but viciously ideological Pope, spewing his incoherent ramblings.

Meanwhile, Islam slavers at the gates - it doesn't need to bother, the gates are all a stage set and it can march right in, all because of our feckless "leaders" and the foolish population that follows them.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2016, 06:39:20 pm »
That's how I feel, too. I'm in Spain right now, and it is so hard to explain to people how something like Trump ever happened......

Simple, show them the ratings for Honey Boo Boo or Jersey Shore and remind them that those same people vote.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2016, 06:55:02 pm »
Now we can say Trump is ham-handed and even gauche, but at least he is fighting.

AbaraXas is right - it is Trump's supporters who are the problem.  They let anger and emotion trump their common sense.

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Re: Mother of Service Member Booed Over Khan Question At Pence Rally
« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2016, 09:29:48 pm »
You can be anti-trump and say anti-trump things .  But you cant hit the soft DELETE key by calling those would say positive things about Trump, 'Trumpkins' and worse.

You dont understand your own strength or power.

Effectively, you are deleting posts before they are ever written! 

Which I suppose is very efficient from a mod point of view. :smokin:

But remember, we did not like it when the Trump mods 'hard' deleted posts which went against their preferences.
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« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2016, 09:32:11 pm »
Somewhere along the line, the opposite of PC changed from mutual respect to being an ass.

Political correctness, at its core, is trying to control or suppress the speech of others because it offends you.

The opposite of this should be respecting each other's rights and beliefs so we don't try to control them but just acknowledge the difference and let them have their liberty to be wrong, not trying to control them.

It has morphed into just shouting down the other side; in other words, just another form of being PC.

I'm old enough to remember when being "PC" was just called "being polite". 

IE - "There are just some things you don't say in polite company."

(Which wasn't that long ago.  So most here should remember this as well.)
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