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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #100 on: July 20, 2016, 02:20:59 pm »
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #101 on: July 20, 2016, 02:22:13 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on July 20, 2016, 01:18:42 am
Trump's objective has always been to give the reigns to his pal Hillary.  In the unlikely event that Trump is president the outcome will be no different.

ABSOLUTELY! And he has succeeded completely!
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #102 on: July 20, 2016, 03:11:49 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 20, 2016, 02:22:13 pm
ABSOLUTELY! And he has succeeded completely!

Well Bigun, @libertybele couldn't provide anything other than a gut feeling for evidence, perhaps you have something a little more concrete?
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #103 on: July 20, 2016, 03:21:36 pm »
Quote from: MACVSOG68 on July 20, 2016, 01:44:24 am
And you have any evidence of this...where?

Her fervent mind,MAC. If you don't mind a little constructive criticism, you are just too darn diplomatic at stage in the primary process. It's over and Trump has won. The time for kid gloves is done.

The truth will sink in - hopefully sooner rather than later. Support Donald Trump or give aid and comfort to Hillary Clinton. Those are the choices.
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #104 on: July 20, 2016, 03:24:46 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on July 20, 2016, 03:21:36 pm


The truth will sink in - hopefully sooner rather than later. Support Donald Trump or give aid and comfort to Hillary Clinton. Those are the choices.

F Trump.  Cruz 2020

And btw....   Your post constitutes a personal attack here at TBR.
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #105 on: July 20, 2016, 03:26:25 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on July 20, 2016, 03:24:46 pm
F Trump.  Cruz 2020

And btw....   Your post constitutes a personal attack here at TBR.

 :silly: says the little man with 692 posts... :silly:
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #106 on: July 20, 2016, 03:27:51 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on July 20, 2016, 03:26:25 pm
:silly: says the little man with 692 posts... :silly:

No.... says the owners....

"Calling another poster a liar, or stupid, or insane, or a fascist, or a Hillary supporter or any variation thereof or a Trump[fill in the blank] is considered a personal attack."
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #107 on: July 20, 2016, 03:29:49 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on July 20, 2016, 03:27:51 pm
No.... says the owners....

"Calling another poster a liar, or stupid, or insane, or a fascist, or a Hillary supporter or any variation thereof or a Trump[fill in the blank] is considered a personal attack."

The only flaw in your reasoning is that was before Donald J Trump became the Republican party's nominee for president.

The ball is in your court #NeverTrump.
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #108 on: July 20, 2016, 03:30:47 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on July 20, 2016, 03:26:25 pm
:silly: says the little man with 692 posts... :silly:

Playing the "noob" card?.  What is your Thug Freeper Name?
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #109 on: July 20, 2016, 03:32:00 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on July 20, 2016, 03:29:49 pm
The only flaw in your reasoning is that was before Donald J Trump became the Republican party's nominee for president.

The ball is in your court #NeverTrump.

That's funny....  Could you show me the expiration date on that rule Einstein?

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,216336.msg970058/topicseen.html#msg970058
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #110 on: July 20, 2016, 03:37:41 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on July 20, 2016, 03:21:36 pm
Her fervent mind,MAC. If you don't mind a little constructive criticism, you are just too darn diplomatic at stage in the primary process. It's over and Trump has won. The time for kid gloves is done.

The truth will sink in - hopefully sooner rather than later. Support Donald Trump or give aid and comfort to Hillary Clinton. Those are the choices.

Perhaps ac, but I still respect many (not all) of those I'm debating.  As long as members don't insult me, I'll show them the same.  There are still issues to be talked about, and once the gloves are off, little of it gets done.  Besides, there are plenty on both sides who are ready to slug it out.  And yes, I read the new standard Repub set this morning, but all that does is ensure I'll never again defend the fairness and desire for open discussion of management.  Everything changes.
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #111 on: July 20, 2016, 03:38:36 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on July 20, 2016, 03:30:47 pm
Playing the "noob" card?.  What is your Thug Freeper Name?

What's that? I think I hear something? What could it be? Oh yes, a ############### trying to get my attention. Sad. But, I don't play with people who help elect democrats like Hillary Clinton...

Mod:  You know better than to use this particular personal attack.  I'm leaving the other for all to see.
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #112 on: July 20, 2016, 03:43:21 pm »
Quote from: MACVSOG68 on July 20, 2016, 01:44:24 am
And you have any evidence of this...where?

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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #113 on: July 20, 2016, 03:51:34 pm »
Quote from: rodamala on July 20, 2016, 03:43:21 pm


And then there's the pictures of W with Bill for a number of years.  It would seem strange that Trump would keep referring to her as Crooked Hillary if he means to turn over the keys to the kingdom to her...  And you do know who Reagan shared many a treasured moment with?

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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #114 on: July 20, 2016, 03:53:01 pm »
Quote from: MACVSOG68 on July 20, 2016, 12:53:52 pm
Well...yeah, I could use a tiny tad of evidence that Trump is going to turn it all over to Hillary.  I've seen nothing in the primary process indicating anything other than that Trump will do whatever is necessary to win.  How does that support your thesis that he's in this to give it to Hillary if elected?

I have wondered from time to time in the past if there might be some truth to that. But, I think what your seeing now is just a result of a campaign that's currently managed very poorly. Nothing more. We'll see if that changes going forward but if Trump's campaign continues as is, it'll be a safe bet to predict a Hillary win
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #115 on: July 20, 2016, 03:54:06 pm »
May 2015  - Phone call between Trump and Bill Clinton
June 2015 - Trump announces candidacy for president

Probably just a coincidence....
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #116 on: July 20, 2016, 03:56:35 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on July 20, 2016, 03:38:36 pm
What's that? I think I hear something? What could it be? Oh yes, a Hillary Clinton supporter trying to get my attention. Sad. But, I don't play with people who help elect democrats like Hillary Clinton...

Naw. You vote for them.
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #117 on: July 20, 2016, 03:59:23 pm »
Quote from: guitar4jesus on July 20, 2016, 03:54:06 pm
May 2015  - Phone call between Trump and Bill Clinton
June 2015 - Trump announces candidacy for president

Probably just a coincidence....

There is precedent - the same thing happened with Perot in '92. Its a Clinton MO.

The other thing that makes one wonder is the gusto & vitriol with which Trump engaged in the primaries has been noticeably lacking in the general, even thought Trump has been the presumptive for what - a couple of months now? He has yet to put his organization together in some key states.
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #118 on: July 20, 2016, 04:00:06 pm »
Quote from: guitar4jesus on July 20, 2016, 03:54:06 pm
May 2015  - Phone call between Trump and Bill Clinton
June 2015 - Trump announces candidacy for president

Probably just a coincidence....

Just like Bill Clintoon has a chance meeting with the AG one day and Hillary walks the next!

Coincidence indeed!
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #119 on: July 20, 2016, 04:03:40 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on July 20, 2016, 01:49:46 am
Cruz will do fine tomorrow. He will do what Christie is doing now. Hammer Hillary.He will talk about the constitution and conservativism.
He is a legal scholar, he doesn't want Hillary Stacking the courts.
I agree that he will help stop Hillary. I have heard 3 things tho:
1. There is a chance he will not mention Trump at all
2. There is a chance he will endorse Trump and call for unity.
3. And I hope and pray they do not, but he may get booed at the convention. Trump people have been told to behave so if it happens it will not be the Trump supporters...
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #120 on: July 20, 2016, 04:05:14 pm »
Quote from: guitar4jesus on July 20, 2016, 03:54:06 pm
May 2015  - Phone call between Trump and Bill Clinton
June 2015 - Trump announces candidacy for president

Probably just a coincidence....

My guess is, and bear with me for a moment as I place my tin foil hat on, is neither Trump nor Clinton expected him to get as far as he has and it was probably a suggestion made that he run in jest.
But as Trump advanced further than he even expected, well, the prize is POTUS and he is now closer to it than he ever has been and Hillary is the obstacle to that path so he's treated her as part of the opposition
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #121 on: July 20, 2016, 04:07:19 pm »
Quote from: LMAO on July 20, 2016, 04:05:14 pm
My guess is, and bear with me for a moment as I place my tin foil hat on, is neither Trump nor Clinton expected him to get as far as he has and it was probably a suggestion made that he run in jest.
But as Trump advanced further than he even expected, well, the prize is POTUS and he is now closer to it than he ever has been and Hillary is the obstacle to that path so he's treated her as part of the opposition

Time will tell but, at this point, I'm still expecting to see total Trump campaign self destruct from here on out.

We'll see..
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #122 on: July 20, 2016, 04:08:46 pm »
Quote from: LMAO on July 20, 2016, 03:53:01 pm
I have wondered from time to time in the past if there might be some truth to that. But, I think what your seeing now is just a result of a campaign that's currently managed very poorly. Nothing more. We'll see if that changes going forward but if Trump's campaign continues as is, it'll be a safe bet to predict a Hillary win

Can't disagree with that summary.  Trump needs to up his game starting with a good Fall campaign plan.  If that means cleaning house, by all means do it.  There are still a lot of predictions on this site that Trump will step down before the election, or otherwise hand it off to Hillary.  Given Trump's ego, no evidence of that goal, his desire to always win every contest, and the legacy he would leave for himself and his family, those are simply preposterous.  He may well lose, but it won't be intentionally.
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #123 on: July 20, 2016, 04:09:14 pm »
Quote from: Mechanicos on July 20, 2016, 04:03:40 pm
. Trump people have been told to behave so if it happens it will not be the Trump supporters...

Cruz supporters are going to boo their own candidate?

Now that is funny, and some serious pre-spinning
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Re: Cruz steps into spotlight for Trump
« Reply #124 on: July 20, 2016, 04:16:31 pm »
What I would love is if Cruz walked out to the podium with a hand full of notes (that Trump edited) and just tossed them to the floor and proceeded to tell it like it really is.

Yeah, I know Cruz is too much a gentleman to do that, but yeah, I can dream.
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