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June 15, 2016, 05:37 pm
Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future

By Jonathan Swan

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) attended a confidential dinner with more than 20 top conservatives on Tuesday night to plan his comeback as a movement leader in the mold of Ronald Reagan.

The dinner was at the Virginia home of conservative activist Brent Bozell, and the agenda was to plot Cruz’s future and the future of the conservative movement.

The undertone of the dinner was about how to position Cruz for a future tilt at the presidency and to spearhead the conservative movement from his seat in the Senate, those in attendance said.

Dining with Cruz and his chief of staff, Paul Teller, were some of the most powerful figures in the conservative movement.

The spectrum of economic, national security and social conservatives seated at the table included Heritage Foundation President Jim DeMint, Club for Growth President David McIntosh, direct-mail guru Richard Viguerie, National Rifle Association board member and former Cincinnati Mayor Ken Blackwell, and Susan B. Anthony List President Marjorie Dannenfelser, sources confirmed.

According to those in attendance, the leaders discussed how they could work more effectively together and how to harness their vast financial and human networks in the service of conservative principles and Cruz's career.

Combined, those at the table have access to hundreds of millions of dollars and some of the largest ground armies on the right.

There was no specific discussion of electoral politics or whether Cruz will support presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump this cycle.

Many of the leaders at the dinner want Cruz to run for president again, and they are viewing Cruz’s unsuccessful 2016 run as similar to Reagan’s failed attempt in 1976 to unseat the incumbent Republican president, Gerald Ford.

Private conversations with sources at the dinner kept turning up the same analogy: Reagan came back to win the presidency in 1980. And Cruz, they think, can do the same in 2020.

Cruz’s office declined to comment on the dinner and none of the five sources The Hill spoke to who attended would speak on the record about the conversation.

Contacted late Wednesday, Bozell said he wouldn’t reveal off-the-record conversations but stressed the dinner “was not about what Ted Cruz was going to do with Donald Trump.”

“There was just discussion of the future of the movement and the future of Ted Cruz as the leader of the movement,” Bozell told The Hill.

“There are a lot of similarities with Reagan in ’76, where Reagan came very close and then in ’80 won the presidency,” he said.

“It wasn’t a function of ignoring [Trump] or he wasn’t worth our time. … There were people in that room who’ve taken different positions on this race. You’ve got the Never Trump and you’ve got people who are for Trump in that room.

“I wanted to keep the focus on the future of the movement and Ted Cruz.”

Bozell said he derived “a feeling of enthusiasm for [Cruz] going forward.”

“He was with kindred spirits, and I would say most people in that room see him as the leader of the conservative movement.”

The dinner table discussion involved some digs at Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), though the attacks did not come from Cruz, who gained notoriety last July when he called McConnell a liar on the Senate floor.

Asked about anti-McConnell comments at the dinner, Bozell laughed and said, “In any gathering of conservatives, if you don’t have a negative comment about Mitch McConnell then you didn’t have a good conversation.”

McIntosh — who as leader of the conservative group Club for Growth authorized millions of dollars in primary campaign spending in a failed attempt to stop Trump — said his group is now focused on keeping Republican control of the House and Senate and ensuring a solid future for the conservative movement.

He said he personally views Cruz as an important figure in the future of the movement, no matter what happens in November with Trump.

“I think [Cruz] earned the position of being the leader of the conservative movement in terms of an elected official,” McIntosh told The Hill on Wednesday.

“Talking to him … I think he’s thinking about how to do that and ready to step into that leadership role,” he added, saying he wouldn’t get into private conversations had at the dinner.

“I’m a huge Ronald Reagan fan so the analogy I used with Ted is, ‘You’re Ronald Reagan in 1977 and you’ve got a choice: Are you going to take on the leadership of the movement?’ ”

Reagan was also on the mind of Morton Blackwell, another conservative activist who attended the Bozell dinner and, like McIntosh, wouldn’t break confidences to a reporter.

Cruz was Blackwell’s choice for president and said the Texan “would’ve been the first Reaganite that the Republican Party has nominated for president since Ronald Reagan.”

“I am very high on Sen. Cruz, and I know that there are millions of other people committed to conservative principles that share my view.

“If he ran for president in 2020 he would still be in his 40s,” Blackwell added.

Bozell said he didn’t want the story about his dinner to suggest that electoral politics were the focus of the discussion; but he couldn’t help adding a note about just that.

“We didn’t look at the political, again on purpose. We wanted to look at the future of the movement from the standpoint of ideas,” he said.

Bozell paused.

“Although, clearly I would say most people in that room would like to see him run for president again.”
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2016, 10:51:39 pm »
I still get a sick feeling thinking about what an absolute fiasco we are in the midst of.

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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2016, 10:56:46 pm »
I still get a sick feeling thinking about what an absolute fiasco we are in the midst of.

I am a political orphan.

Buck up, my friend.  2020 starts now.  And it's Cruz or lose!
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2016, 11:01:03 pm »
I still get a sick feeling thinking about what an absolute fiasco we are in the midst of.

I am a political orphan.

So am I, but at this point, I'm just going to sit back and watch what happens as folks reap what they've sown.  I share your feelings about the mess we find ourselves in; it's a grave situation.  But I did what I could to try and stop it, so I'm not going to stress about it.

I have no doubt that Ted Cruz learned many valuable lessons during his campaign.  He'll be back, and I'll likely support him.

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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2016, 11:04:00 pm »
All about him .... let the country decline under four years of Clinton.  Let's lose the courts forever.  Let's lose another generation to socialism.

All about him and his lust for the oval office.   **nononono*

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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2016, 11:06:53 pm »
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Cruz was Blackwell’s choice for president and said the Texan “would’ve been the first Reaganite that the Republican Party has nominated for president since Ronald Reagan.”

“I am very high on Sen. Cruz, and I know that there are millions of other people committed to conservative principles that share my view.
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I agree !! Good article.  Great news! :cheerlead:

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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2016, 11:16:02 pm »
All about him .... let the country decline under four years of Clinton.  Let's lose the courts forever.  Let's lose another generation to socialism.

All about him and his lust for the oval office.   **nononono*

Cruz recognizes that Trump is a lifelong liberal himself. 

Besides, Ted's a conservative, and Trump said he didn't need his support.  Why be bothered?

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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2016, 11:20:52 pm »
All about him .... let the country decline under four years of Clinton.  Let's lose the courts forever.  Let's lose another generation to socialism.

All about him and his lust for the oval office.   **nononono*

Wrong as usual.  Cruz and the Conservatives just recognize that Trump is going to be crushed by the Clinton machine in November, and are only taking the prudent first steps toward picking up the pieces in 2020. 
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2016, 11:21:25 pm »
All about him .... let the country decline under four years of Clinton.  Let's lose the courts forever.  Let's lose another generation to socialism.

All about him and his lust for the oval office.   **nononono*

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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2016, 11:21:40 pm »
All about him .... let the country decline under four years of Clinton.  Let's lose the courts forever.  Let's lose another generation to socialism.

All about him and his lust for the oval office.   **nononono*

As opposed to Trump's lust for the Oval Office?  Get real.  **nononono*

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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2016, 11:23:45 pm »
As opposed to Trump's lust for the Oval Office?  Get real.  **nononono*

She's just mad because Cruz won't bow down to her little orange Asherah pole.
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2016, 11:27:35 pm »
It's great that Sen Cruz and these others are looking ahead. There's nothing we can do now, except help conservatives down ticket and fight a holding action for 4 years. One proposal I would make is push all states to only let registered Pubs vote in the primary. 

You know it's going to be a mess when Trump comes out strong against the Orlando shooting and didn't even get a bump in the polls.
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2016, 11:32:52 pm »
I am still imagining a Cruz Presidency.  The question really is at this point; how do we keep our country in tact under a Clinton or a Trump presidency for 4 years?  Clearly the destruction that has already been done won't be undone and will continue.  I'm not so sure that we have another 4 years.  That's a very, very long time.  Of course I am concerned about the liberal agenda, but my biggest concern is that unquestionably there will be an attack on our 2nd amendment rights and with the continuing influx of immigrants and possible terrorists into this country I find it frightening.
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2016, 11:39:02 pm »

If the subject is Cruz alone, sure they can meet to talk about HIS future.

If the subject is future GOP leadership, then there are several others worthy of equal consideration. 
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2016, 11:41:53 pm »
If the subject is Cruz alone, sure they can meet to talk about HIS future.

If the subject is future GOP leadership, then there are several others worthy of equal consideration.

In that nearly all of them have bent the knee to stumpy, there really aren't.

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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2016, 11:48:41 pm »
I am still imagining a Cruz Presidency.  The question really is at this point; how do we keep our country in tact under a Clinton or a Trump presidency for 4 years?  Clearly the destruction that has already been done won't be undone and will continue.  I'm not so sure that we have another 4 years.  That's a very, very long time.  Of course I am concerned about the liberal agenda, but my biggest concern is that unquestionably there will be an attack on our 2nd amendment rights and with the continuing influx of immigrants and possible terrorists into this country I find it frightening.
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2016, 11:53:23 pm »
It's great that Sen Cruz and these others are looking ahead. There's nothing we can do now, except help conservatives down ticket and fight a holding action for 4 years. One proposal I would make is push all states to only let registered Pubs vote in the primary. 

You know it's going to be a mess when Trump comes out strong against the Orlando shooting and didn't even get a bump in the polls.
 

As for Trump, and as I have stated several times, his primary objective was to destroy the GOP giving Hillary the White House. I hate to sound so dismal, but I am a realist and tend to look ahead. The article certainly is positive and I am a huge supporter of Cruz,  but I think we really need to brace ourselves for the great possibility of losing the majority in the Senate and even quite possibly the House.  Then in 2018 we have the mid term elections (if we make it that far) ... by then the foothold of those granted amnesty will have taken place and another wave of eligible liberal voters will emerge. IMHO there is a real possibility that we won't retain our lead in GOP governors, and quite possibly a lot of states may turn from red to blue; including Texas.
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2016, 11:55:57 pm »
All about him .... let the country decline under four years of Clinton.  Let's lose the courts forever.  Let's lose another generation to socialism.

All about him and his lust for the oval office.   **nononono*

But I thought your guy was a lock to beat Clinton?   :whistle:
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2016, 11:57:43 pm »
All about him .... let the country decline under four years of Clinton.  Let's lose the courts forever.  Let's lose another generation to socialism.

All about him and his lust for the oval office.   **nononono*

And as an added bonus, the man was ill equipped to be president. Just another half term senator in a hurry. No real world experience, just a government worker his whole life. Wasn't likable, voice that grated and dripped with sanctimony. Would have been a sure November loser, in my opinion. Well, at least he wasn't orange, I'll give him that.

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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2016, 12:02:16 am »
I am still imagining a Cruz Presidency.  The question really is at this point; how do we keep our country in tact under a Clinton or a Trump presidency for 4 years?  Clearly the destruction that has already been done won't be undone and will continue.  I'm not so sure that we have another 4 years.  That's a very, very long time.  Of course I am concerned about the liberal agenda, but my biggest concern is that unquestionably there will be an attack on our 2nd amendment rights and with the continuing influx of immigrants and possible terrorists into this country I find it frightening.

I have the same concerns, but Trump will be the nominee whether we like it or not. Sen Cruz getting together with these other conservatives to plan for 2020 is a good indicator that Trump will be the nominee.

At this point if Trump didn't get the nomination his supporters would never support whoever did get the nomination. The only way someone else could get the nomination and win would be if Trump stepped aside and threw his full support behind that person. He's not going to do that.

It's a harsh reality, Trump will be the nominee. hillary will win and the Pubs will probably lose the Senate.
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2016, 12:03:12 am »
And as an added bonus, the man was ill equipped to be president. Just another half term senator in a hurry. No real world experience, just a government worker his whole life. Wasn't likable, voice that grated and dripped with sanctimony. Would have been a sure November loser, in my opinion. Well, at least he wasn't orange, I'll give him that.

Why don't you go light a candle for your little orange Asherah pole. He going to need all the help he can get.
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2016, 12:06:03 am »
In that nearly all of them have bent the knee to stumpy, there really aren't.

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Great point!

Somehow, though conservatives will need to rebuild the coalition and that's going to mean drawing the trump supporters back into the fold. I agree with you though that any leadership that helped promote the trump disaster should be ignored.
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2016, 12:06:27 am »
Why don't you go light a candle for your little orange Asherah pole. He going to need all the help he can get.

I pray all the time for his safety. Thank you for your concern.

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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2016, 12:08:10 am »
All about him .... let the country decline under four years of Clinton.  Let's lose the courts forever.  Let's lose another generation to socialism.

All about him and his lust for the oval office.   **nononono*

Damn.  You've described Donald Trump's candidacy perfectly.
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Re: Top conservatives meet at secret dinner to discuss Cruz's future
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2016, 12:11:25 am »
Why don't you go light a candle for your little orange Asherah pole. He going to need all the help he can get.

On another thread, owners asked that we voluntarily dial back on the "orange" business. It's not even that clever any more.