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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1300 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 12:05 pm »
Iran denies Trump’s claim of Hormuz deal: ‘There is no agreement’

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h18oo52rfl

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Iran on Sunday denied that it had reached any agreement to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, directly contradicting U.S. President Donald Trump hours after he canceled a planned strike and announced that the outlines of a deal had been reached.

“There is no agreement on reopening the Strait of Hormuz,” Iran’s regime-linked Fars news agency reported. “As long as the United States continues its hostile actions, the strait will remain closed.”

A senior Iranian military source told the agency that ships would be permitted to pass only through a designated route and with authorization from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy.

The statement marked another sharp clash between Trump’s public account of negotiations and Tehran’s version of events.

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So what now, Mr. President?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1301 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 12:11 pm »
Iran denies Trump’s claim of Hormuz deal: ‘There is no agreement’

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h18oo52rfl

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So what now, Mr. President?

The Iranians are doing their level best to save Trump from himself!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1302 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 03:48 pm »
Iran denies Trump’s claim of Hormuz deal: ‘There is no agreement’

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h18oo52rfl

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So what now, Mr. President?

Now can we bomb the shit out of them?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1303 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 03:50 pm »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1304 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 03:52 pm »
Now can we bomb the shit out of them?

I just saw a news report that supposedly Iran has asked Trump to hold off on the attacks, etc., etc., and Trump  said in essence that he was going to honor that  request.

Total freakin' insanity!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #1305 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 03:57 pm »

I just saw a news report that supposedly Iran has asked Trump to hold off on the attacks, etc., etc., and Trump  said in essence that he was going to honor that  request.

Total freakin' insanity!!!!!!!!


You got that right.  Each and every time, Iran broadcasts to the world what is actually working against them.

"Stop hitting IRGC sites"   "Stop bombing bridges"   "Stop hitting IRGC sites"   "Don't touch our refineries"   "Unfreeze our assets"

Every time we get close, Bad Cop asks that we stop doing whatever is working and return to the negotiating table with Good Cop.  And we stupidly are falling for it again and again.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1306 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 03:59 pm »
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President Trump talks Iran: A deal on the Strait of Hormuz is coming, and a deal on denuclearization will follow.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1307 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 04:01 pm »
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Hasn’t Trump by this point lost all credibility on Iran?  With the endless threats, the chest beating, then the inevitable backing down?  Only for Iran/IRGC to humiliate him again.  Thank you for your attention in this matter!

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1308 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 04:02 pm »
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IRGC just hit a ship in SOH according to Israel Live News. Sending out distress call. Sunday August 2nd.
How stupid will Trump let them make him look before he gets serious?

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1309 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 04:08 pm »
So we are surrendering.




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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1310 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 04:12 pm »
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President Trump on Iran:

We had an attack that would've been the biggest attack since World War II.

It would have been disastrous for them, and they didn't want us to do it.

Frankly, Saudi Arabia didn't want it either. They thought that a deal is imminent.

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« Reply #1311 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 04:19 pm »
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President Trump on Iran:

We had an attack that would've been the biggest attack since World War II.

It would have been disastrous for them, and they didn't want us to do it.

Frankly, Saudi Arabia didn't want it either. They thought that a deal is imminent.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1312 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 04:39 pm »
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President Donald Trump said Sunday that a planned attack on Iran was called off after officials from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Iran urged the U.S. to give diplomacy another chance.

Speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One on a return flight from New Jersey, the president described how the strike was halted and said negotiations are scheduled to begin Monday afternoon.

“I was asked by Saudi Arabia, the UAE and by Iran. We were all set to go. Just about at this time. Right now," he said.

“The reason they asked is they think there's a deal.

“They said we'd like to make a deal now. You know, I don't know what they say because a lot of times they'll say that for me.

“Obviously they don't want to be attacked,” Trump added before saying Washington was “talking to them” and that negotiations were planned for "tomorrow afternoon."

“It would be the biggest attack since World War II,” Trump said before adding, “It would have been disastrous for them.”
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1313 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 04:46 pm »
I think I am reaching the *I don't care anymore* point...just don't get anymore US military killed.

This is the only *war* that I know of that the vanquished has won.  :shrug:

I don't know who Trump is listening to but letting a 3rd world country outsmart the US is outrageous.
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« Reply #1315 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 05:08 pm »
I think I am reaching the *I don't care anymore* point...just don't get anymore US military killed.

This is the only *war* that I know of that the vanquished has won.  :shrug:

I don't know who Trump is listening to but letting a 3rd world country outsmart the US is outrageous.

I agree with you.  I am to that point that this insanity needs to end is outweighing the giving a damn about what's going on. 

My huge concern is, in my opinion, the inevitable future attacks from within our country.  They're coming.  The rise in socialists and Muslims running for office is not by accident.  First and foremost should be the safety of our country and our military personnel. 

The continued on and off bombing and 'Let's Make A Deal' has become tiring. Playing cat and mouse is ridiculous.  Strike them into oblivion, take over the SOH and capture their supply of uranium.  Anything other than that is a waste of time and a waste of munitions and is doing absolutely nothing but inviting Iran to regroup, re-arm, and allowing China and Russia to help them escalate this war.

Just my opinion.


Secondly, IIRC Trump stated that America will never be a socialist country.  Well, someone needs to tap him on the shoulder and open his eyes as to what's going on, on the  home front. He hasn't been very vocal about it at all, and our GOP azzhats aren't doing a darn thing.

Everything that's happening to this country is disheartening and it makes me sick!
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« Reply #1316 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 05:18 pm »
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Secondly, IIRC Trump stated that America will never be a socialist country.  Well, someone needs to tap him on the shoulder and open his eyes as to what's going on, on the  home front. He hasn't been very vocal about it at all, and our GOP azzhats aren't doing a darn thing.

Everything that's happening to this country is disheartening and it makes me sick!

I know..this DSA movement sickens me.

Elections are getting close and I feel Trump will spend the next 2.5 years fighting off impeachment hearings and investigations of his staff and family.

Why oh Why did he start this *war* right before an election...did he think it would be another Venezuela?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1317 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 05:29 pm »
I know..this DSA movement sickens me.

Elections are getting close and I feel Trump will spend the next 2.5 years fighting off impeachment hearings and investigations of his staff and family.

Why oh Why did he start this *war* right before an election...did he think it would be another Venezuela?
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Whoever told him and convinced him that this war would be over quickly, out and out lied to him and the fact that Hegseth also publicly made that claim is concerning.

As for the midterms, we need a miracle.

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« Reply #1318 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 06:35 pm »
Whoever told him and convinced him that this war would be over quickly, out and out lied to him and the fact that Hegseth also publicly made that claim is concerning.

As for the midterms, we need a miracle.

We're not in danger of losing the midterms because of this war.  We're in danger because we have controlled the White House and BOTH Houses of Congress for two years and haven't done a damn thing.  Another $4 trillion added to our national debt.  Free shit galore for the Democrat base.  And we still haven't passed a budget, much less submitted one.  If we're going to continue with Pelosi's 2022 budget, run $2 trillion annual deficits, and keep giving out free shit to illegals, then we might as well vote for Democrats.  Because Republicans have nothing to offer.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1319 on: Sunday, Aug 02, 2026 11:49 pm »
“Perimeters” of a Deal.

Like parameters, only better cause it’s TRUMP.

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« Reply #1320 on: Today at 01:03 am »
I think I am reaching the *I don't care anymore* point...just don't get anymore US military killed.

This is the only *war* that I know of that the vanquished has won.  :shrug:

I don't know who Trump is listening to but letting a 3rd world country outsmart the US is outrageous.
I think I am in agreement with you. Enough is enough, perhaps enough is to much.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1321 on: Today at 02:56 am »
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Hasn’t Trump by this point lost all credibility on Iran?  With the endless threats, the chest beating, then the inevitable backing down?  Only for Iran/IRGC to humiliate him again.  Thank you for your attention in this matter!

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47 apparently answers to the Gulf States, principally the Saudis. They are terrified that Iran will retaliate against them, and so they have pressured 47 to make a deal. Some allies!

They seem to care nothing about the Strait being open and free, and even less about Iran having nuclear weapons.

So a deal will be had, leaving Iranian oil flowing out, cash flowing in, China selling weapons to Iran, Iran hardening even more sites, building their missile & drones underground, and of course, making nukes secretly under Pickaxe Mountain.

47 will smile, make bold brash CYA pronouncements, and move on to the mid terms.
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47 apparently answers to the Gulf States, principally the Saudis. They are terrified that Iran will retaliate against them, and so they have pressured 47 to make a deal. Some allies!

They seem to care nothing about the Strait being open and free, and even less about Iran having nuclear weapons.

So a deal will be had, leaving Iranian oil flowing out, cash flowing in, China selling weapons to Iran, Iran hardening even more sites, building their missile & drones underground, and of course, making nukes secretly under Pickaxe Mountain.

47 will smile, make bold brash CYA pronouncements, and move on to the mid terms.
The Saudis have a pipeline out...they're making bank.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #6
« Reply #1323 on: Today at 03:03 am »
The Saudis have a pipeline out...they're making bank.

Their power and desalination plants, along with other infrastructure are are risk, not the oil.
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« Reply #1324 on: Today at 04:15 am »
I have never seen or heard about a "war" prosecuted in this manner.

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« Reply #1325 on: Today at 04:37 am »
Their power and desalination plants, along with other infrastructure are are risk, not the oil.
What is at risk is money.

That is made by producing and selling oil.

And oil that goes into the pipelines or ports is congregated in very expensive and compact processing units that can be the targets of drones or missiles.  Think port docks, oil processing facilities, pump stations, storage facilities.

It does not good having a pipeline if there is limited oil being processed to put in it.

No oil, no money.

Same goes for Iranians.
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« Reply #1326 on: Today at 05:29 am »
What is at risk is money.

That is made by producing and selling oil.

And oil that goes into the pipelines or ports is congregated in very expensive and compact processing units that can be the targets of drones or missiles.  Think port docks, oil processing facilities, pump stations, storage facilities.

It does not good having a pipeline if there is limited oil being processed to put in it.

No oil, no money.

Same goes for Iranians.

Oil is one thing - it generates money like you said, but without water they die. No water for 3 days and they all die.
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« Reply #1327 on: Today at 05:47 am »
I have never seen or heard about a "war" prosecuted in this manner.

Maybe it started out to be something like 'Kiev in 3 days,' but morphed into a deal fest.
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« Reply #1329 on: Today at 06:22 am »
I know..this DSA movement sickens me.

Elections are getting close and I feel Trump will spend the next 2.5 years fighting off impeachment hearings and investigations of his staff and family.

Why oh Why did he start this *war* right before an election...did he think it would be another Venezuela?
I agree 100%.  He'll likely cause the repubs to lose both the house and senate and it will likely be bloody, plus he's helping usher in socialism by being such a massive target. 

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« Reply #1330 on: Today at 07:24 am »
The American military are fulfilling their duties.

American politicians at home are not fulfilling their duties.

You don't start a war without strategic objectives, without strategic plans to reach those objectives, and without strategic plans of military disengagement once those objectives are achieved.

Any armchair analyst knew that any strikes on Iran would be met with retaliation, like closing the Strait of Hormuz, launching attacks against US allies in the Persian Gulf, and hacking American computer systems.

The first objective of any strategic plan to attack Iran is to have a trained, armed local insurgency at the ready to challenge the IRGC on the ground.

The second objective is to blockade any aid from Russia and China ... via ship, air, or rail, including taking out rail lines, maritime cargo terminals, and air cargo terminals.

The third objective is to take out any Iranian hackers inside and outside Iran.

The fourth objective is to secure the Strait of Hormuz.

The fifth objective is to establish 24/7 air domination of Iranian skies.

Then, you start dropping bombs.

If you are going to initiate a war, you attack your enemy on many fronts simultaneously to overwhelm their defenses and deprive the enemy of time and opportunity to counter attack.

You establish air domination to allow coventional or uncoventional ground forces to seek and destroy the enemy where they sleep.

Bombing from the air, alone, will not win conflicts.  The enemy will adapt by moving installations underground, dispersing installations, making assets mobile, and adapting a mesh network command and control structure that allows installations and garrison to act independently or as part of a coordinated effort.  The enemy knows, that once an asset reveals itself, it will be targeted, so it will spread them out and make them mobile so a single airstrike cannot devastate their entire defense.

If a politicians are going to put America's sons and daughters in harm's way, the politicians owe to them and their families to do everything possible to win and bring America's military home safely.

Bush '43 half-assed Iraq in 2003.  Trump is half-assing Iran in 2026.  This why Congress was given the power to declare war, and it is up to Congress to have the stones to tell the politicians in the Executive that Americans deserve better than military conflicts fought half-ass.
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I agree 100%.  He'll likely cause the repubs to lose both the house and senate and it will likely be bloody, plus he's helping usher in socialism by being such a massive target.

Which could well be why 47 is going to be the last GOP President, and maybe the Last President.
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Per Fox News...*talks are off*

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Which could well be why 47 is going to be the last GOP President, and maybe the Last President.

It's been looking that way for awhile.  Pray for a miracle. 
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Here we go again .....



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Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

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Why would this time be different?

Trump has less leverage for negotiation than he believes he has.

He is applying business logic to "negotiating" with revolutionaries who have a completely different set of rationalities than Westerners.
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Here it is Groundhog Day and I thought it was Monday.

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I bet sales of the "Art of the Deal" are dropping like a rock this year. 

Trump is starting to remind me of Hanna Barbara cartoon villians like the Coyote, Yosemite Sam, and Elmer Fudd.  Looking foolish on pursuit.
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I somewhat prefer our system to the parliamentary form, however, the presidency has failed in this case.  If Britain’s PM was broken, they would simply hold a no confidence vote and let someone else negotiate an end to the conflict.  Instead we have a confused 80 year old, stuck in a loop of his own making, and we have to ride him to the bottom (or until his party removes him - another systemic failure).

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Which could well be why 47 is going to be the last GOP President, and maybe the Last President.
I never thought there would be another GOP President until Trump came along. Of course he was a democrat before and still kind of is....  You are right, there will not ever be another GOP president.

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When the repubs get slaughtered in the midterms, and they will, the repubs will blame Trump.  We'll have another impeachment with possibly the Senate going through with it.  It's going to be a VERY UGLY next 2 years and Trump will have no one else to blame but himself, but of course he will.

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TRUMP: DEAL OR TOTAL SURRENDER — TALKS WITH IRAN OFF


Translation:
Iran says make a deal or the US must surrender.
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Which could well be why 47 is going to be the last GOP President, and maybe the Last President.


Disagree

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47 apparently answers to the Gulf States, principally the Saudis.

Trump is and has been working with the Gulf States for years on commerce, regional peace, Israeli integration ---- issues that together carve a path to a new Middle East dynamic offering actual peace and security.  Their opinions matter.

This is yet another reason why allowing the 2026 war for Iranian regime change was a mistake.

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When the repubs get slaughtered in the midterms, and they will, the repubs will blame Trump.  We'll have another impeachment with possibly the Senate going through with it.  It's going to be a VERY UGLY next 2 years and Trump will have no one else to blame but himself, but of course he will.

Even if the Democrats take the Senate, they won’t have enough to convict
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.... Instead we have a confused 80 year old, stuck in a loop of his own making

You may be disappointed with the President's decisions, but he is not confused.  He has one objective:  destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities without a bloodbath and return to strengthening commercial and peace initiatives in the Middle East. 

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This is depressing.  Trump says negotiations are off because Iran is in talks with Oman and not us, while Fox Business says talks are "in progress." 

Which is it?  I think a game is being played here, the goal is to drive the cost of oil down, while trying to drive the Stock Market to record levels (the DJIA is within striking distance of an all-time high...oh, just cleared it!  Before today it was 53,055 and is now at 53,090).
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