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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1800 on: Thursday, Jun 25, 2026 01:10 pm »
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🚨🇺🇸🇮🇷 Donald Trump and J.D. Vance’s proposal to unfreeze funds for Iranian food aid has backfired. Iranian citizens are rejecting the offer. Their message is clear: the struggle is for freedom, not bread. They want to overthrow a dictatorship, not receive charity.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1801 on: Thursday, Jun 25, 2026 01:51 pm »
So what if Iran is STILL shooting at ships in the gulf; so what if Hezbollah/Iran is still attacking Israel; so what if Iran has now REFUSED to release the nuclear material and now claim they have "buried it"; so what if they are still rounding up innocent dissidents and torturing/raping them and then murdering them. The IRGC/Mullahs are still in power ... So what ...?

I said before that there is NOTHING Iran could ever possibly do that Trump will not blindly 'forgive' and apologize for Iran. Trump is a Jimmy Carter style passivist at heart. He will NEVER resume the bombings with Iran no matter what they do. And Iran knows this.

Also, Iran knows that Trump is full of shit, after dozens of real examples that what Trump says is meaningless. Trump has absolutely no military credibility at all in Iran.

"I WILL DESTROY YOU!!"
Iran responds: Yea sure you will ... LOL. Shut the f**k up Trump, you crazy old MAN! And GIVE US MONEY!! (you crazy bitch)

Trump responds: They didn't mean it ... that's not what they said to me ... nobody got hurt ... we should give them money

BTW:
The MoU is not "a Deal".
It is very far from a "Peace Treaty".

It is basically nothing at all. Trump was looking for an excuse to surrender and go home and the MoU was the best he could get.

The 'Memorandum of Understanding' (whatever that means) is just a simple piece of paper.

Whether or not it is even 'enforceable' is highly questionable. As far as we know, Iran never actually 'signed' anything. The MoU is nothing more than the excuse Trump was looking for to pack up and run away home. The MoU in Trump's mind is something he can wave around just exactly like Neville Chamberlain to claim that he achieved "peace for our time".
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1802 on: Thursday, Jun 25, 2026 02:48 pm »
I'm fairly sure Trump knows he's in over his head. He's looking for the exit door.

The moral to the story? Don't try to negotiate with people who really don't want peace....and are a little crazy to boot.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1804 on: Thursday, Jun 25, 2026 05:00 pm »
Do I still believe that?

I don’t know hang I ever did.
That was the premise you seem to be delivering when the poster said he could still access the site successfully even if a nuclear device was detonated over the site.
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« Reply #1805 on: Thursday, Jun 25, 2026 05:14 pm »
That was the premise you seem to be delivering when the poster said he could still access the site successfully even if a nuclear device was detonated over the site.

I don’t think you hug the right guy.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1806 on: Thursday, Jun 25, 2026 08:49 pm »
Do you believe the Iranian tunnels were dug by hand then? Or do the Iranians posses some magical tech that surpasses any Western tunneling machines which somehow decades ago managed to tunnel through granite to create Cheyenne Mountain Complex?
Tunneling machines? Cheyenne Mountain was done by the time honored methods of drilling shot holes and tunnel rounds and blasting. It started in 1961, and was largely done by the Corps of Engineers. It had to be stabilized by rock bolts, and eventually a concrete dome because they found a fault in there.

I've drilled shot holes in granodiorite (similar hardness to Granite) when I worked on a construction crew in the Blue Ridge. The cutters on most tunneling machines, even today, are made for softer, sedimentary rock. 
The Mullahs have had plenty of time to dig those tunnels the old fashioned way. Drill, blast, muck, and drill some more. It's one thing to do in virgin rock, but now it is not only fractured from the original tunneling, but from the effects of bunker busters dropped successively into the same hole, a technique designed to fracture the rock extensively. That, contrary to some belief, will NOT make for easier digging.

And they still have to contend with a chaotic, biologically toxic, and radioactive environment if and when they get there.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1807 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 01:57 am »
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The Islamic Regime in Iran has struck a cargo vessel with a off the coast of Oman in the Hormuz Strait.

The attack comes after Tehran issued a warning to vessels not to sail in the new corridor in the Hormuz Strait announced by Oman.



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Interestingly Fox & Friends did  NOT report this at their opening this AM [ 5am ], but continued to cheer lead for 47's Deal™.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1808 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 06:54 am »
Tunneling machines? Cheyenne Mountain was done by the time honored methods of drilling shot holes and tunnel rounds and blasting. It started in 1961, and was largely done by the Corps of Engineers. It had to be stabilized by rock bolts, and eventually a concrete dome because they found a fault in there.


Raven Rock Mountain too, near Gettysburg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_Rock_Mountain_Complex

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1809 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 07:43 am »
The IRCG was born from the Islamic Revolution, and has been preparing and waiting for this fight since then.

The thing is, their extreme minority status and opposition to the people makes them a vulnerable target for clandestine operations.

Seems the best strategy is to have tight control of the Strait and all the oil plus the proceeds. Set up bases, arm the people, as a side goal hunt the IRGC operating from the bases. Every time they pop their head up eliminate them till they're gone.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1810 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 07:47 am »
Trump: Erdogan Wanted to Help Iran, Now He Gets His Reward

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It's not surprising, but more than a little disturbing. President Trump revealed that he had to convince our NATO ally Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Turkey's president, not to enter the war on Iran's side when the United States and Israel struck Iran.

That would have been quite awkward, to say the least.

President Trump revealed this surprising factoid pretty casually, as he also revealed that he would be rewarding the wayward ally with ties to Islamists and our adversary Russia with permission to purchase fighter engines, and even, perhaps, F-35s.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1811 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 08:03 am »
The thing is, their extreme minority status and opposition to the people makes them a vulnerable target for clandestine operations.

Seems the best strategy is to have tight control of the Strait and all the oil plus the proceeds. Set up bases, arm the people, as a side goal hunt the IRGC operating from the bases. Every time they pop their head up eliminate them till they're gone.

That will be Bibi’s job.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1812 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 09:02 am »
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President Trump says Iran violated the ceasefire agreement by launching four one way attack drones at ships traveling through the Strait of Hormuz.

One of the drones hit a cargo ship, the others were shot down, according to the President.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1813 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 09:08 am »
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President Trump says Iran violated the ceasefire agreement by launching four one way attack drones at ships traveling through the Strait of Hormuz.

One of the drones hit a cargo ship, the others were shot down, according to the President.

So what are you going to do about it, Mr. President?  Send a sternly worded letter to the IRGC?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1814 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 09:18 am »
So what are you going to do about it, Mr. President?  Send a sternly worded letter to the IRGC?

47 will do nothing - action, even a sternly worded letter, could disturb the "delicate negations" or his terms of surrender.
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« Reply #1815 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 09:34 am »
So what are you going to do about it, Mr. President?  Send a sternly worded letter to the IRGC?

He's presented an opportunity here to isolate IRGC forces as "Rebels" and attack them as such.

...whether Tehran likes it or not.

For once the threat of the IRGC is dispelled, it's easier for the People to show up in the streets again.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1816 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 11:21 am »
Israel, Lebanon sign framework peace agreement following US-backed negotiations

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Israel and Lebanon signed a framework peace agreement on Friday — icing out Iran and its proxy group Hezbollah — following four days of negotiations in Washington.

“In this performance-based trilateral framework agreement, Iran is out, Hezbollah is out, and the road to peace between Israel and Lebanon is in,” Israeli ambassador to the US Yechiel Leiter said at a signing ceremony.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio described the agreement as a “first step” to returning Lebanon to its prior prosperity before Hezbollah moved in and promoted terrorism.

“The people of Lebanon have suffered tremendously now for decades as a result of outside interference in their affairs of countries trying to use the country as a launchpad for attacks, and this is not what the people of Lebanon want. That’s not what they deserve,” he said.

“What they deserve to have is what they once had — and of which there is recent history of — and that is a prosperous and peaceful country, a diverse country where people of different backgrounds were able to live and coexist side by side in many ways was the envy of the region and of the world,” he continued.

“It will take a lot of work and some time to get back to that point, but we believe today is the first step in that journey.”

Done as it should be, with SecState Rubio superbly mediating.

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« Reply #1817 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 11:31 am »
Well I hope the peace sticks. Just makes me sad that a mere 60 years ago many of these countries before the Muzzies and Commies showed up were jewels of relative freedom and modernity, and now are mostly trash wastelands of psycho cultists bent on taking everyone back to the Dark Ages.
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« Reply #1818 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 12:01 pm »

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« Reply #1819 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 12:10 pm »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1820 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 12:21 pm »
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« Reply #1821 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 12:43 pm »
Well I hope the peace sticks. Just makes me sad that a mere 60 years ago many of these countries before the Muzzies and Commies showed up were jewels of relative freedom and modernity, and now are mostly trash wastelands of psycho cultists bent on taking everyone back to the Dark Ages.

As were all of North Africa, Egypt, the entire ME, and Turkey - minus the Commies. All were Christian nations, states, etc.
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« Reply #1822 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 12:43 pm »
U.S. Strikes Iran in Response to Attack on Commercial Vessel

TAMPA, Fla. — U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces conducted strikes against Iran, June 26, as a powerful response to yesterday’s attack on a commercial ship that was transiting the Strait of Hormuz.

U.S. aircraft struck Iranian missile and drone storage locations and coastal radar sites after Iran hit M/V Ever Lovely on June 25 with a one-way attack drone. The Singapore-flagged cargo ship was exiting the Strait of Hormuz along the Omani coast at the time of Iran’s attack.

The unwarranted aggression against commercial shipping by Iranian forces clearly violated the ceasefire. Furthermore, Iran’s dangerous behavior undermined freedom of navigation as commerce increasingly flows through the vital international trade corridor.

CENTCOM forces continue to provide safe passage coordination and support to commercial vessels transiting the strait. The U.S. military remains present and vigilant to ensure all aspects of the agreement with Iran are adhered to, obeyed, and in full force and effect.
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« Reply #1823 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 12:44 pm »
So what are you going to do about it, Mr. President?  Send a sternly worded letter to the IRGC?

The letter appears to be stapled to the tip of some ordinance.
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« Reply #1827 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 12:52 pm »
Jennifer Griffen reporting the airstrikes are ongoing...per Fox
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« Reply #1831 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 01:06 pm »
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« Reply #1832 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 01:14 pm »
47 will do nothing - action, even a sternly worded letter, could disturb the "delicate negations" or his terms of surrender.
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« Reply #1833 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 01:16 pm »
I told you guys this was going to be the approach.  No more "sternly worded letters..."   :laugh:

Attack IRGC forces/launchers.  It may be Whack-a-Mole for awhile, but has to be effective.

In the meantime, Israel has set up a buffer zone in Lebanon, which they will control.
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« Reply #1834 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 01:19 pm »
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« Reply #1835 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 01:24 pm »
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« Reply #1836 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 01:37 pm »
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BREAKING: U.S. strikes Iranian missile and drone storage locations and coastal radar sites as "powerful response" to yesterday’s attack on a commercial ship in Strait of Hormuz, CENTCOM says.

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« Reply #1837 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 01:45 pm »
   I will say that I'm surprised that Trump ordered these attacks.
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« Reply #1838 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 01:54 pm »
The letter appears to be stapled to the tip of some ordinance.

It would appear so!
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« Reply #1839 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 02:33 pm »

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« Reply #1842 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 02:58 pm »
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Iran signed a ceasefire agreement. We have honored it. If they have disagreements about how the MOU is being applied, they can pick up the phone.

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« Reply #1843 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 02:59 pm »

   I will say that I'm surprised that Trump ordered these attacks.
I was surprised as were very many people. This is divergent behavior for Trump. Over the last few months, Trump has ignored, dismissed, ridiculed (no one was hurt), and even apologized for Iranian attacks (rogue elements).

This makes me believe that Trump was finally overridden by his staff, military and his political advisors. Judging from Trump's past words and behavior, I think Trump on his own would have just dismissed it, as did Iran. I am guessing there was some kind of behind the scenes power struggle in which someone 'slapped' Trump back into reality. 'You cannot continue ignoring ongoing Iranian attacks! The world does not work like that!' I do not believe that this was Trump's decision. He was convinced by others.

I laughed when Trump said, "They broke the ceasefire." What ceasefire? The ceasefire Trump simply made-up in his own mind?
THERE NEVER WAS ANY REAL CEASEFIRE, EXCEPT THE CEASEFIRE DELUSIONAL TRUMP DREAMED UP FROM NOTHING.
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« Reply #1844 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 03:15 pm »
The letter appears to be stapled to the tip of some ordinance.
Maybe taped or glued (don't want to tinker with the fuse).
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« Reply #1845 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 03:17 pm »
Iran Is Never Going to Stop Shutting Down the Strait of Hormuz

Iran only has one card to play and it's not going to stop.

June 27, 2026 by Daniel Greenfield

Iran only has one card to play and that’s shutting down the Strait of Hormuz. So it’ll never stop doing it.

Iran’s leaders, unsatisfied with billions in oil sales, access to cash, and promises of sanctions relief and $300 billion in the deal, are trying to charge for access to the strait, meanwhile despite the waivers of oil sales, they’re attacking ships passing through the strait to show they’re in charge.

So now the Trump administration authorized strikes on Iran’s drones and missiles again.

This comes after J.D. Vance had proposed a ‘deconfliction’ program between the United States military and Iran’s IRGC terrorists.

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https://www.frontpagemag.com/iran-is-never-going-to-stop-shutting-down-the-strait-of-hormuz/
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« Reply #1846 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 03:17 pm »
I was surprised as were very many people. This is divergent behavior for Trump. Over the last few months, Trump has ignored, dismissed, ridiculed (no one was hurt), and even apologized for Iranian attacks (rogue elements).

This makes me believe that Trump was finally overridden by his staff, military and his political advisors. Judging from Trump's past words and behavior, I think Trump on his own would have just dismissed it, as did Iran. I am guessing there was some kind of behind the scenes power struggle in which someone 'slapped' Trump back into reality. 'You cannot continue ignoring ongoing Iranian attacks! The world does not work like that!' I do not believe that this was Trump's decision. He was convinced by others.

I laughed when Trump said, "They broke the ceasefire." What ceasefire? The ceasefire Trump simply made-up in his own mind?
THERE NEVER WAS ANY REAL CEASEFIRE, EXCEPT THE CEASEFIRE DELUSIONAL TRUMP DREAMED UP FROM NOTHING.

So, Trump can do the right thing, and the usual gang can be counted on to criticize him for it here.
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« Reply #1847 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 03:20 pm »
I told you guys this was going to be the approach.  No more "sternly worded letters..."   :laugh:

Attack IRGC forces/launchers.  It may be Whack-a-Mole for awhile, but has to be effective.

In the meantime, Israel has set up a buffer zone in Lebanon, which they will control.

And it puts the Congress in the position of having to say "You can't hit them back" (which is about as un-American as it gets) if they are going to try to stop him. Without the MOU, Congress could have shut down any further hostilities.
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« Reply #1848 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 03:22 pm »
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Members and supporters of the Islamist terrorist organization Hezbollah are out on the streets in Beirut tonight rioting and blocking roads in protest against the agreement signed between Israel and Lebanon.


https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/2070634375595602400
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« Reply #1849 on: Friday, Jun 26, 2026 03:22 pm »
So, Trump can do the right thing, and the usual gang can be counted on to criticize him for it here.
No criticism intended. I only said that this is not normal behavior for Trump based on his past behavior.
Of course I am glad Trump finally 'woke up'. Let's hope is sticks. But yes, I still have doubts.
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