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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1000 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 03:09 pm »
I'm sick! Never would I have thought Trump this F'n stupid!

I'm sick about it too.  I think I'm going to steer clear of this thread for awile.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1001 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 03:17 pm »
I think Trump is chasing a Nobel Peace Prize. So give it to him and maybe his mind will clear.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1002 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 03:20 pm »
I think Trump is chasing a Nobel Peace Prize. So give it to him and maybe his mind will clear.

Trump will never get a Nobel.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1003 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 03:33 pm »
Scientists, like all discoverers of truth, have always asked, "What?” “How?” “Why?” “What if?” and “Why not?” Questioning science is science.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1004 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 03:41 pm »
US, Iran Formally Sign Memorandum Of Understandingl

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By Cullen McCue
June 17, 2026



The United States and Iran have formally signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) remotely on Wednesday, June 17, 2026, according to two U.S. officials. The remote singing means the agreement is formally in effect, though a formal signing ceremony is still scheduled for Friday.

Earlier discussions had considered advancing the signing or completing it electronically ahead of the planned meeting of negotiators in Switzerland on Friday. U.S. officials confirmed the remote signing occurred Wednesday, while the in-person ceremony will proceed as planned, according to a report from Axios.

Iranian officials have also referenced the Friday timeline in Geneva or a comparable Swiss venue. President Donald Trump, while attending the Group of Seven summit in France, indicated flexibility on his personal attendance but noted that the process continues.

The MOU serves as a 14-point framework to extend the ceasefire, facilitate the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, and launch negotiations toward a final agreement within 60 days, a period that can be extended by mutual consent. It calls for the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including Lebanon, with commitments not to initiate new operations or use force, while respecting Lebanon’s territorial integrity and sovereignty.

Under the agreement, the United States commits to beginning the lifting of its naval blockade immediately and fully ending it within 30 days, restoring proportional vessel traffic, with U.S. forces withdrawing from proximity to Iran within 30 days of a final deal. Iran commits to ensuring safe, toll-free passage for commercial vessels through the Strait of Hormuz for an initial 60-day period, with full restoration targeted within 30 days after addressing technical and military obstacles.

The two sides plan to develop, with regional partners, a framework for at least $300 billion in reconstruction and economic development for Iran, subject to licenses and waivers granted by the United States, with the implementation mechanism to be finalized in the final deal.

The United States intends to terminate all sanctions, including those under UN Security Council resolutions, IAEA measures, and U.S. primary and secondary sanctions, on an agreed schedule as part of the final deal. Iran will also reaffirm that it will not procure or develop nuclear weapons, with arrangements for the disposition of its enriched material stockpile, including on-site downblending under IAEA supervision.

Nuclear enrichment and related needs would be addressed in the final deal.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1005 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 03:43 pm »
There are a couple of posters on this thread that at one time gave insightful dialogue.

Now the TDS vitriol clouds their comments so much that nothing they say is positive.  Almost appear to be cheering for the enemy.

They treat the present as the end when the end result remains unknown.

An awful way to view our country.

So you're on Iran and Hezbollah's side???   :shrug:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1006 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 03:48 pm »
SURPRISE!!!

Hezbollah Claims Iran Has Promised a Renewed Flow of Money When Sanctions Lifted

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/06/17/hezbollah-and-lebanon-claim-iran-has-promised-a-renewed-flow-of-money-when-sanctions-lifted-n3816052

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Well, to be clear, it appears that many of the sanctions have already been lifted, as Iranian oil shipments are flowing out of the Strait of Hormuz. The blockade, it appears, is already over, even before the official signing we expect on Friday. The lifting of sanctions on oil-related exports appears to be point #10 in the leaked but unconfirmed Memorandum of Understanding.

Oil markets may like that a lot, with good reason. Oil prices have dropped like a rock since the announcement of the MOU. But if you aren't a fan of Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis, you might not be as pleased. According to sources in Lebanon, Iran has promised to open the floodgates and start pouring cash into their proxies, which they call the Axis of Resistance.

This may, of course, be Iranian spin, testing the waters now that the MOU has been "digitally signed." Iran has a history of stretching as far as it can to see what it can get away with, and without seeing the MOU in its entirety, we can only go off what has been leaked and reported in multiple outlets.

Lebanon, by the way, is not pleased, since tying the war in Lebanon to the Iran War links its sovereignty to Iran.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1007 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 03:58 pm »
The side who "WINS A WAR" does not beg the losing side for a 'deal'.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1008 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 04:11 pm »
There are a couple of posters on this thread that at one time gave insightful dialogue.

Now the TDS vitriol clouds their comments so much that nothing they say is positive.  Almost appear to be cheering for the enemy.

They treat the present as the end when the end result remains unknown.

An awful way to view our country.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1009 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 04:47 pm »
US, Iran Formally Sign Memorandum Of Understandingl

 Trump is a chump
The a Iranians played him like a $20 whore.

So .... what exactly did Trump accomplish other than looking like a complete fool now???  Other than JD Vance, Hillary Clinton and a few in here, no one is praising this deal.  What the heck does he think he accomplished?? 

(Ok I wasn't going to bring up Kushner but you can bet he made a sweet deal).



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« Reply #1010 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 05:19 pm »

So .... what exactly did Trump accomplish other than looking like a complete fool now???  Other than JD Vance, Hillary Clinton and a few in here, no one is praising this deal.  What the heck does he think he accomplished?? 

(Ok I wasn't going to bring up Kushner but you can bet he made a sweet deal).

When Hillary Clinton praises anything my alarm bells start going off!
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« Reply #1011 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 05:30 pm »
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1012 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 05:37 pm »


You're accusing the ONLY US president of surrendering who has directly taken on Iran ----

Trump will keep Iran to its promises ----  from underground tunnels and limitless space, the US military will serve as Iran's ankle bracelet monitoring their every move ---  with B52 bombers parked around the corner.

Posting the surrendered meme was beneath you @Bigun   **nononono*

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« Reply #1013 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 05:42 pm »
When Hillary Clinton praises anything my alarm bells start going off!

My error -- Hillary Clinton was praising Trump on his 20 point plan with Israel and Gaza

Hillary Clinton breaks with Democratic critics by backing Trump’s Gaza plan as the 'only game in town'


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton offered surprising praise for President Donald Trump’s handling of the Israel-Hamas war while appearing in New York City earlier this week.

The unexpected show of support came as Clinton spoke with The New Yorker's David Remnick at 92NY on Monday, during a conversation in which the former Democratic presidential candidate touched on topics ranging from the Israel-Iran conflict to former President Joe Biden’s decision to run for re-election.

Remnick then turned the conversation to the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas and pressed Clinton on her longtime support of a two-state solution in the region.

"But if I look at the Israeli polity, they don’t want a two-state solution, certainly not now. And if you look at the Palestinian polity, which is an even more complicated set of geographies and population, a two-state solution is not anywhere near the offing there," Remnick said.


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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1014 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 05:46 pm »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1015 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 05:55 pm »
Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian
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Several rockets were fired by Hezbollah at Israeli troops in southern Lebanon a short while ago.

The IDF says some of the rockets were intercepted while others struck near the forces.

No injuries were caused, the army adds.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1017 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 06:03 pm »
You're accusing the ONLY US president of surrendering who has directly taken on Iran ----

Trump will keep Iran to its promises ----  from underground tunnels and limitless space, the US military will serve as Iran's ankle bracelet monitoring their every move ---  with B52 bombers parked around the corner.

Posting the surrendered meme was beneath you @Bigun   **nononono*

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« Reply #1018 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 06:07 pm »
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Fars News, Iranian Parliament Speaker Ghalibaf:

 - I emphasize again that the Strait of Hormuz will never return to its previous conditions.

- We have the right to charge for services in the Strait of Hormuz.



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1020 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 06:10 pm »

Trump's "vision" is unrealistic.

I disagree @berdie   

With the Gulf States coalescing around the US, the time for change has arrived. 

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I think he is more invested in his country...and not a liar or lacking morality

Again, I respectfully disagree.  Netanyahu is the consummate liar ---- even James Baker, SOS under Bush 41, banned Netanyahu from the State Department and refused to meet with him, anywhere, ever.  Western leaders for decades have refused to work with Netanyahu.  And, Netanyahu authorizing the transfer of more than $1 billion from Qatar to Hamas --- the last approved transfer in September 2023, is just one example of his lack of conscience and morality.





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« Reply #1023 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 06:29 pm »
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Let me be very clear:

Those $300 billion will not go to any civilian purpose. They will be used to rebuild and resupply the IRGC.

The sanction relief and unfrozen assets will be used towards exactly the same end.

Normal Iranians will not see a cent.

Bookmark this.

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« Reply #1025 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 06:37 pm »
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This statement was 100% accurate.



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« Reply #1026 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 06:50 pm »
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🚨Hours before Iran faces New Zealand in its World Cup opener…

These are some of the Iranian athletes killed, executed, or sentenced to death by the regime in 2026.

Who does this team represent?

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« Reply #1029 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 07:00 pm »
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

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« Reply #1030 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 07:01 pm »
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🚨🇺🇸🇮🇷 Iranian Parliament Speaker Ghalibaf says that, according to the MOU, the toll-free crossing will expire in 60 days, and Iran will begin charging ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz after this period.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1032 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 07:22 pm »
Let's see how long it takes Iran, and its proxies, to start pushing the limits of the memo.

Will Iran play the plausible deniability card using its proxies to stir up trouble?

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1033 on: Wednesday, Jun 17, 2026 07:57 pm »
Can we just bomb them now
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1034 on: Today at 01:52 am »
World Source News
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Fars News, Iranian Parliament Speaker Ghalibaf:

 - I emphasize again that the Strait of Hormuz will never return to its previous conditions.

- We have the right to charge for services in the Strait of Hormuz.



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https://x.com/Worldsource24/status/2067352160392691888

This would be a violation of the MOU.  Will Trump ignore this to protect the "deal?"
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1035 on: Today at 03:53 am »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1036 on: Today at 04:16 am »
Can we just bomb them now
No. We have to wait for them to violate any agreement. Then we can bomb the sh*t out of them.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1037 on: Today at 04:17 am »
Vance probably just handed the 2028 GOP nomination for Prez to Rubio.
Marco has NBC problems.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
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GOP Sen. Marshall: ‘Had to’ Let Iran Have Immediate Waivers to Sell Oil So They’d Sign

On Wednesday’s broadcast of CNN’s “The Source,” Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS) defended letting Iran get immediate waivers to sell oil by saying that “we had to get them to sign the document. So, we gave that up in response for them giving up their nukes.” And that “you have to let them help themselves a little bit here as well.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2026/06/18/gop-sen-marshall-had-to-let-iran-have-immediate-waivers-to-sell-oil-so-theyd-sign/


GOP Sen. Marshall: Prefer Iran Doesn’t Have Missiles, But They ‘Have to Be Able to Defend Themselves’

On Wednesday’s broadcast of CNN’s “The Source,” Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS) said that he prefers Iran not having missiles, “But I don’t think that’s the key issue here. I think that they have to be able to defend themselves.” He
also said that “we went in there with a very clear purpose that we wanted to destroy their missile systems, their navy, their military, decrease their ability to fund other foreign terrorists, and, of course, be able to eliminate their ability to have nuclear weapons in the future. I’m going to argue that we’re 85% there on the missile systems.”

Host Kaitlan Collins asked, “Senator, are you okay with Iran having missiles?”

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This is all about the price of gasoline and the midterms....  9999hair out0000
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
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we had to get them to sign the document. So, we gave that up in response for them giving up their nukes.” And that “you have to let them help themselves a little bit here as well.”

So why is that, Roger?  Why did we have to get them to sign this piece of paper that they have no intentions of honoring?

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Against whom?  Us and Israel?

Sounds like Trump trotted this idiot out to defend Vance's rotten "deal."
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1041 on: Today at 05:03 am »
Some headlines...not that we expected anything else...

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1042 on: Today at 05:07 am »
This is all about the price of gasoline and the midterms....  9999hair out0000

Yes.  Trump just sealed not only our fate but the fate of the free world.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1044 on: Today at 05:14 am »
So why is that, Roger?  Why did we have to get them to sign this piece of paper that they have no intentions of honoring?

Against whom?  Us and Israel?

Sounds like Trump trotted this idiot out to defend Vance's rotten "deal."

I thought that this was a deal construed by Trump's special envoy???  IF indeed this is "Vance's deal" then he outright lied to the American people. I will never vote for him. He will be a disaster, though something tells me he's not going to run.  He's going to head for the hills.

Also, it is my understanding that Pakistan was the negotiator in all of this -- looks like the U.S. went right along.

Negotiations?  I could cry.   Trump made a deal with Satan. 
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
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I thought that this was a deal construed by Trump's special envoy???  IF indeed this is "Vance's deal" then he outright lied to the American people. I will never vote for him. He will be a disaster, though something tells me he's not going to run.  He's going to head for the hills.

Also, it is my understanding that Pakistan was the negotiator in all of this -- looks like the U.S. went right along.

Negotiations?  I could cry.   Trump made a deal with Satan.

Trump's saying that Vance was the guy, backed by Witkoff and Kushner.  If so, then Vance is going to own and wear this like a cheap, two-bit, fake fur coat.
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Trump's saying that Vance was the guy, backed by Witkoff and Kushner.  If so, then Vance is going to own and wear this like a cheap, two-bit, fake fur coat.

Gee, then Vance is responsible.  What does that tell you about him?  It certainly explains the "chumminess" that we've seen between Vance and the "dynamic duo".  This deal is terrible. How could Trump not see that?? Trump should have had the backbone to put Rubio into play.  I think he may have had the steadfastness to sink his heels in and come up with a better 'deal'.  Just my opinion.

At the end of the day, Trump signed it.  He IS responsible.  He surrendered.  He backed down BIGLY!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
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This is all about the price of gasoline and the midterms....  9999hair out0000

Then the attack on Iran should have been completed until Iran surrendered or had no choice but to surrender.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
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Then the attack on Iran should have been completed until Iran surrendered or had no choice but to surrender.


Or he shouldn't have started it to begin with...should have waited until after the elections.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1049 on: Today at 05:33 am »
So you're on Iran and Hezbollah's side???   :shrug:
you have it 180 deg backwards.

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