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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2400 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 06:42 am »
Trump must 'accept the reality' there is no Iran deal on the horizon, ex-general declares
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Retired four-star Gen. Jack Keane said enough with the diplomatic charade — Iran is stalling for time and the best solution is to resume full-scale war.

The chairman of the Institute for the Study of War and former Army vice chief of staff on Friday blasted eight weeks of fruitless talks as a waste while the mullahs play games.

“We have to accept the reality that’s just not going to happen,” Keane said on Fox News. “They have one motive: Stretch out negotiations as much as possible, get as close to the political situation in terms of midterm elections, and there will be less likelihood that President Trump would ever pull the trigger and go back to military operations. I believe that is their unstated strategy.”

Even if a deal somehow was inked, Keane warned it would be worthless — and dangerously so.

“We can’t throw them a financial lifeline … because then they’ll systematically reverse everything,” he said. “They’ve always cheated in the past, and they’ll cheat in the future.”

Still, he championed Trump’s decision to launch the war on Feb. 28 — but said the job isn’t over yet.

“Look, in close to 50 years, only one president has taken consequential action against Iran and their predator behavior — and that’s President Trump,” Keane said. “Five weeks of Epic Fury and a naval blockade devastated this regime militarily and economically. They’re down, but they’re not out.”

When operations paused, the IDF and US Central Command had about two weeks left to finish the job, the general said. Now, after eight weeks of watching the Iranians try to recover, the US has even more targets and better intelligence.

“If we go back to military operations — and I believe that’s the preferred option — we should return to full combat operations,” Keane said.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2401 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 06:43 am »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2403 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 06:55 am »
Trump is now an apologist for Iran.
Trump says, I don't care who or how many people Iran murders or how many allies Iran attacks, as long as no American Troops are killed, the ceasefire is holding.
The current regime in Iran is fine with me. They are proud, reasonable, and brave. What the hell happened to Trump in the last few weeks!?

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I will 'Destroy your Civilization!'
To the protesters and to the people of Iran: 'Hang on, Help is on the way!'

I will bet, based on his current statements and attitude, that Trump will give Iran the money they want in the vain hope that Iran will finally sign his idiotic, foolish, futile 'deal'.

This is beyond TACO. It is quickly turning into open betrayal of all the people who trusted him at his word. Was NATO right all along?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2404 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 07:01 am »
Trump must 'accept the reality' there is no Iran deal on the horizon, ex-general declares
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The chairman of the Institute for the Study of War and former Army vice chief of staff on Friday blasted eight weeks of fruitless talks as a waste while the mullahs play games.

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https://nypost.com/2026/06/05/world-news/jack-keane-calls-for-trump-to-return-to-war-with-iran-lets-go-big/

Why is a retired four star General choosing the battlefield over a conference table even considered newsworthy?

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2405 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 07:28 am »
Trump is now an apologist for Iran.
Trump says, I don't care who or how many people Iran murders or how many allies Iran attacks, as long as no American Troops are killed, the ceasefire is holding.
The current regime in Iran is fine with me. They are proud, reasonable, and brave. What the hell happened to Trump in the last few weeks!?

Flashback a month ago,
I will only accept 'Unconditional Surrender!'
I will 'Destroy your Civilization!'
To the protesters and to the people of Iran: 'Hang on, Help is on the way!'

I will bet, based on his current statements and attitude, that Trump will give Iran the money they want in the vain hope that Iran will finally sign his idiotic, foolish, futile 'deal'.

This is beyond TACO. It is quickly turning into open betrayal of all the people who trusted him at his word. Was NATO right all along?

Glad you brought those points up. I have a wild, wildly radical theory about 47's behavior, since he declared a unilateral ceasefire and begin begging the Iranian for a deal and is now an Iranian apologist, as you mentioned.

Some one will have to look at the time line here, between when the Iranians told the clowns that they had enough material for 11 nukes and when the "ceasefire" was declared.

Why 11? Why not 10 or 12? Did they not plan how many they intended to produce in advance?

What if they made 12? And during the 4 years of Biden, some group of Iranians and cartel members smuggled one across the southern border? What if when 47 threatened to wipe Iran out, they sent a quiet message and proof that in some US city there was a nuke ... waiting for 47 to go too far?

This would explain his sudden character change, his begging Iran for a deal.

Anyway, I though I'd throw it out there as food for thought ... which will be debunked rapidly I'm sure.





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« Reply #2406 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 07:29 am »
Why is a retired four star General choosing the battlefield over a conference table even considered newsworthy?
Because he speaks the truth? :shrug:

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2407 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 07:51 am »

Trump vows to bring American boots on the ground in Iran if a deal isn't struck as ceasefire begins to crumble
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15880805/Trump-American-boots-ground-Iran-deal-ceasefire.html
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Posting just the headline because, just like Iran, I no longer believe anything Trump says about the war.
When it comes to Iran, Trump is full of shit. I'm not falling for it anymore.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2408 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 07:56 am »
Trump says Iran conflict doesn't break campaign promise because it's 'not an endless war'

President Donald Trump denied that launching the Iran conflict broke his campaign promise of "no new wars" because it is not an "endless war" on Sunday.

Trump made the statement in an interview with NBC News after being pressed on the issue by host Kristen Welker.

"I didn't promise anything. I don't like these endless wars. This is not an endless war," Trump said.

"So you're saying you didn't break your promise. And yet, Mr. President, in your first term, you held to that promise and it was so fundamental to who you were as a candidate, to a first-term president. What changed, because you insisted 'no new wars'?"

"First of all, I didn't guarantee no war. Why would I have built the strongest military in the world? I built our military. I inherited a terrible military. We had no equipment. We had nothing. I built a tremendous military. Biden gave a lot of it away, but it's still a relatively small portion compared to what I built," Trump responded.

Trump went on to say that Iran was very close to developing a nuclear weapon prior to U.S. intervention, and that he was doing the world a "favor."
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2409 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 08:11 am »
Posting just the headline because, just like Iran, I no longer believe anything Trump says about the war.


Then you are a fool.  You are no better than the fake press, picking and choosing what you think people should read. 
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« Reply #2410 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 08:18 am »
Then you are a fool.  You are no better than the fake press, picking and choosing what you think people should read.

I don't think he is trying to do that...Speaking as one who posts a lot of articles you have to pick and choose what you think is true or at least reliable...it gets harder and harder what to believe.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2411 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 08:41 am »
Trump vows to bring American boots on the ground in Iran if a deal isn't struck as ceasefire begins to crumble
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15880805/Trump-American-boots-ground-Iran-deal-ceasefire.html
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Posting just the headline because, just like Iran, I no longer believe anything Trump says about the war.
When it comes to Iran, Trump is full of shit. I'm not falling for it anymore.

There's a lot of 'information' floating around out there which makes it difficult to discern what is truly happening. 

I can only hope that Trump is listening to his military advisors; Cane and Hegseth in particular.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2412 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 08:41 am »
Trump is now an apologist for Iran.
Trump says, I don't care who or how many people Iran murders or how many allies Iran attacks, as long as no American Troops are killed, the ceasefire is holding. The current regime in Iran is fine with me. They are proud, reasonable, and brave.

Are these words ⬆️ the President's or are you posting using your poetic license?

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Flashback a month ago,
I will only accept 'Unconditional Surrender!'
I will 'Destroy your Civilization!'
To the protesters and to the people of Iran: 'Hang on, Help is on the way!'

Would any of these actual new realities justify a change in the US military trajectory? -----

° It will take more than a few weeks and air power to find and destroy Iran's ballistic missiles and enriched uranium
° Iran is not too weakened and *does* have the means to fu@k with the Strait of Hormuz
° The Kurds ain't coming to arm and help the Iranian revolution, neither is Mossad --- it would be only the US.. 
° The destruction of Iran's infrastructure needs thumbs up from the Gulf States and first the Gulf states need confidence that going forward Israel's border crossing military attacks stop.





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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2413 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 08:55 am »
Glad you brought those points up. I have a wild, wildly radical theory about 47's behavior, since he declared a unilateral ceasefire and begin begging the Iranian for a deal and is now an Iranian apologist, as you mentioned.

Some one will have to look at the time line here, between when the Iranians told the clowns that they had enough material for 11 nukes and when the "ceasefire" was declared.

Why 11? Why not 10 or 12? Did they not plan how many they intended to produce in advance?

What if they made 12? And during the 4 years of Biden, some group of Iranians and cartel members smuggled one across the southern border? What if when 47 threatened to wipe Iran out, they sent a quiet message and proof that in some US city there was a nuke ... waiting for 47 to go too far?

This would explain his sudden character change, his begging Iran for a deal.

Anyway, I though I'd throw it out there as food for thought ... which will be debunked rapidly I'm sure.


We do know that Iran threatened and targeted his daughter, Ivanka.  As for nukes how many they posses, I don't know, perhaps no one knows,  but I think an equally pressing issue which I think we should be relatively concerned with are all the sleeper cells within the U.S. that the FBI/CIA likely haven't tracked, or know where they are and maybe Iran has warned Trump they will destroy the U.S. from within; our grid, infrastructure, etc.  It would make 9-11 look pale in comparison.

I think that scenario is highly likely -- just my opinion.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2414 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 09:27 am »
If any of the 'blackmail' scenarios are true, a 'deal' will not stop Iran from doing it anyway.
Iran has zero respect for 'deals'. They do not even recognize them as being anything at all.
Iran does whatever it wants to do anytime they want to do it. A silly 'deal' will not stop them.
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« Reply #2415 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 09:28 am »
If any of the 'blackmail' scenarios are true, a 'deal' will not stop Iran from doing it anyway.
Iran has zero respect for 'deals'. They do not even recognize them as being anything at all.
Iran does whatever it wants to do anytime they want to do it. A silly 'deal' will not stop them.

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« Reply #2416 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 09:36 am »
If any of the 'blackmail' scenarios are true, a 'deal' will not stop Iran from doing it anyway.
Iran has zero respect for 'deals'. They do not even recognize them as being anything at all.
Iran does whatever it wants to do anytime they want to do it. A silly 'deal' will not stop them.

I don't think an unenforceable deal is the desired result, but I do think collapsed talks could provide the excuse to send in some troops and kick some serious ass.
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« Reply #2417 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 09:46 am »

I don't think an unenforceable deal is the desired result, but I do think collapsed talks could provide the excuse to send in some troops and kick some serious ass.
Judging from how Trump has coddled Iran to prevent the so-called 'ceasefire' from collapsing, despite multiple serious blatant violations by Iran, I doubt that Trump will allow the talks to collapse no matter what Iran does. Trump is a businessman. Businessmen live by 'negotiations'. Trump is in his home environment, even though it is not applicable to Iran or to war.

Trump will keep the so-called 'talks' going on forever. Trump will never allow the talks to collapse no matter what Iran does. Iran knows this.

The talks have already collapsed many times, but Trump keeps resuscitating it.
The ceasefire has collapsed many times, but Trump refuses to acknowledge it.
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« Reply #2418 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 10:02 am »
Judging from how Trump has coddled Iran to prevent the so-called 'ceasefire' from collapsing, despite multiple serious blatant violations by Iran, I doubt that Trump will allow the talks to collapse no matter what Iran does. Trump is a businessman. Businessmen live by 'negotiations'. Trump is in his home environment, even though it is not applicable to Iran or to war.

Trump will keep the so-called 'talks' going on forever. Trump will never allow the talks to collapse no matter what Iran does. Iran knows this.

The talks have already collapsed many times, but Trump keeps resuscitating it.
The ceasefire has collapsed many times, but Trump refuses to acknowledge it.

I don't know how long Trump intends to wait before he deems the talks to be "collapsed."   :shrug:
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« Reply #2419 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 11:47 am »
Evidently Iran just launched ballistic missiles against Israel.  But the ceasefire continues?   :shrug:
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« Reply #2422 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 11:54 am »
LOL....Trump says Iran needs to come back to the negotiating table.  So the ceasefire continues.....ughhhhhh.

He must be getting advice that the blockade is really having a huge effect.
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« Reply #2425 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 12:09 pm »

https://twitter.com/TreyYingst/status/2063709736327864356

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"What I would suggest to Iran: You've shot your nukes, that's enough. Get back to the table and make a deal," President Trump told Fox News.
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« Reply #2427 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 12:20 pm »
At some future date:
"What I would suggest to Iran: You've shot your nukes, that's enough. Get back to the table and make a deal," President Trump told Fox News.
There's a difference between 'missiles and nukes' .... just sayin'. 

I tend to think Trump is stalling for a reason.
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« Reply #2429 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 12:23 pm »
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Trump says Israel shouldn’t attack because we are close to a deal. Funny how that doesn’t stop Hezbollah or Iran from attacking. This looks weak and would be terrible for America’s deterrent worldwide. Worthy of Biden or Obama, really. My guess would be Israel goes ahead anyway.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2432 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 12:33 pm »

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« Reply #2433 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 12:35 pm »
LOL....Trump says Iran needs to come back to the negotiating table.  So the ceasefire continues.....ughhhhhh.

He must be getting advice that the blockade is really having a huge effect.

It feels like fishing line is being played out....
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« Reply #2434 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 12:41 pm »
TRUMP JUST PROVED EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID ABOUT HIM AND HIS STUPID CEASEFIRE!
All Trump cares about is his childish 'talks' and his ridiculous quest for a meaningless 'deal'.

Trump has abandoned the people of Iran and Israel in favor of Iran. NATO WAS RIGHT NOT TO TRUST HIM!
Iran will come out of this 10 times stronger than before. The countdown begins until Trump gives Iran the money.

This is not TACO. This is beyond TACO. This is open betrayal of the Iranian people who believed him and a wartime ally.
Trump is now a spokesman FOR the mullahs and the IRGC and Hezbollah.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2435 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 12:56 pm »
Trump said as long as no American Troops are killed, Iran can do anything they want to do. Iran is just taking Trump at his word.
I think Israel is done with Trump. Trump has been compromised somehow. Trump now represents the interests of Iran and the mullahs.
Trump wants to surrender and run away. He is hoping his idiotic 'deal' will simulate victory and then he can pack up and leave.

Israel does not have the luxury of being able to run away like Trump wants to do. They have to respond.
However, I have no doubt that Trump will refuse Israel the IFF codes they need to fly safely in the area.
Trump is now actively supporting Iran, all for the sake of his bizarre really bizarre singular fixation chasing his white rabbit 'deal'.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2436 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:17 pm »
Trump said as long as no American Troops are killed, Iran can do anything they want to do. Iran is just taking Trump at his word.
I think Israel is done with Trump. Trump has been compromised somehow. Trump now represents the interests of Iran and the mullahs.
Trump wants to surrender and run away. He is hoping his idiotic 'deal' will simulate victory and then he can pack up and leave.

Israel does not have the luxury of being able to run away like Trump wants to do. They have to respond.
However, I have no doubt that Trump will refuse Israel the IFF codes they need to fly safely in the area.
Trump is now actively supporting Iran, all for the sake of his bizarre really bizarre singular fixation chasing his white rabbit 'deal'.

That's quite a statement.  "Trump has been compromised somehow". I think that would be a first, frankly.  He does things his way. Always has.  Perhaps his 'age' has finally affected him?k  I don't know. 

Anyone else -- opinions on this????

However, I honestly don't know what to make of all of this.  It's hard to decipher exactly what Trump meant.  He's coming up with some really bizarre statements that just don't mesh with his original statements going into this conflict. 

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« Reply #2437 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:25 pm »
That's quite a statement.  "Trump has been compromised somehow". I think that would be a first, frankly.  He does things his way. Always has.  Perhaps his 'age' has finally affected him?k  I don't know. 

Anyone else -- opinions on this????

However, I honestly don't know what to make of all of this.  It's hard to decipher exactly what Trump meant.  He's coming up with some really bizarre statements that just don't mesh with his original statements going into this conflict.
Trump wants out of this "police action" and the repubs running for office want it wrapped up as well.  It needs to end NOW to get gas prices down and food prices down before the election.

Israel has to respond to this, they have no choice or they'll look weak.

Trump thought this would all be over in a few weeks and here we are.  In hindsight he should have continued pounding them until they screamed uncle.

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« Reply #2438 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:30 pm »
"Hold on! Help is on the way!"

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« Reply #2439 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:36 pm »
Trump wants out of this "police action" and the repubs running for office want it wrapped up as well.  It needs to end NOW to get gas prices down and food prices down before the election.

Israel has to respond to this, they have no choice or they'll look weak.

Trump thought this would all be over in a few weeks and here we are.  In hindsight he should have continued pounding them until they screamed uncle.

Agree .... so ... why didn't he??
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« Reply #2440 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:38 pm »
That's quite a statement.  "Trump has been compromised somehow". I think that would be a first, frankly.  He does things his way. Always has.  Perhaps his 'age' has finally affected him?k  I don't know. 

Anyone else -- opinions on this????

However, I honestly don't know what to make of all of this.  It's hard to decipher exactly what Trump meant.  He's coming up with some really bizarre statements that just don't mesh with his original statements going into this conflict.

At this point, my only opinion is Trump is not finished wit Iran and he's not given up.  All further guessing about how he proceeds from here is just wild speculation that's not based on actual facts, just guesswork from people who have no facts. 

Trump chickened out?  Trump's sending in troops?  Trump is pulling out troops?  Trump's continuing the Blockade?  Yes?  No?  It's successful?  It's not?  Iran is shipping oil through the Hormuz Strait?  It's not?   Are we bombing?  Bombing what, exactly?  Is Israel bombing?  Is UAEbombing?

Nobody here knows the answers to any of those questions for sure, but guesses based on nothing have been made on them, on all sides! 

As for me, the only thing I know with reasonable certainty is Trump has not given up!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2441 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:38 pm »
"Hold on! Help is on the way!"



Yep, the United States is earning a reputation that we can't be trusted.
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« Reply #2442 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:39 pm »
At this point, my only opinion is Trump is not finished wit Iran and he's not given up.  All further guessing about how he proceeds from here is just wild speculation that's not based on actual facts, just guesswork from people who have no facts. 

Trump chickened out?  Trump's sending in troops?  Trump is pulling out troops?  Trump's continuing the Blockade?  Yes?  No?  It's successful?  It's not?  Iran is shipping oil through the Hormuz Strait?  It's not?   Are we bombing?  Bombing what, exactly?  Is Israel bombing?  Is UAEbombing?

Nobody here knows the answers to any of those questions for sure, but guesses based on nothing have been made on them, on all sides! 

As for me, the only thing I know with reasonable certainty is Trump has not given up!

It is definitely NOT in Trump's character to give up.
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« Reply #2443 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:43 pm »
Yep, the United States is earning a reputation that we can't be trusted.

We've been doing that since WWII ended.
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« Reply #2444 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:48 pm »
We've been doing that since WWII ended.

Time and again....
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It could have been wrapped up and over weeks ago. But Trump interfered and stopped everything because he wanted to 'make a deal'.

Iran does not make deals. And even when they do, they simply ignore them. It is funny that Trump says we are only days away from a deal. This is Iran's most famous tactic. They always want the stupid Infidels to think they are only days away. And then in the very hour of the signing with pen in hand, Iran will add more conditions.

THEY ALWAYS DO THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME. Iran wants them to get all excited and giddy about an agreement so at the last minute they can extort more concessions. With a pen in their hand they say, Either you give us this other new thing or we will not sign. Trump does not understand how Iran plays the game.

Trump is a chump. Iran is playing Trump like a Yo-Yo. "Hoorah! We are only days away!!!" yeah right ... sure you are, you sucker
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« Reply #2446 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:49 pm »
Trump said as long as no American Troops are killed, Iran can do anything they want to do. Iran is just taking Trump at his word.

An American president protects American troops and some Americsn citizens stand in opposition  :shrug:

In reality, President Donald Trump has set the injury or death of U.S. troops as his primary red line. He has explicitly warned Iranian leadership that the ongoing ceasefire and peace talks would immediately fall apart and trigger renewed military action if Tehran kills any American troops.


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« Reply #2447 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:55 pm »
An American president protects American troops and some Americsn citizens stand in opposition  :shrug:

In reality, President Donald Trump has set the injury or death of U.S. troops as his primary red line. He has explicitly warned Iranian leadership that the ongoing ceasefire and peace talks would immediately fall apart and trigger renewed military action if Tehran kills any American troops.

Excuse me, but I did not see any qualifiers when Trump told the people of Iran to "Hold on! Help is on the way!"
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« Reply #2448 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:56 pm »
It could have been wrapped up and over weeks ago. But Trump interfered and stopped everything because he wanted to 'make a deal'.

Iran does not make deals. And even when they do, they simply ignore them. It is funny that Trump says we are only days away from a deal. This is Iran's most famous tactic. They always want the stupid Infidels to think they are only days away. And then in the very hour of the signing with pen in hand, Iran will add more conditions.

THEY ALWAYS DO THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME. Iran wants them to get all excited and giddy about an agreement so at the last minute they can extort more concessions. With a pen in their hand they say, Either you give us this other new thing or we will not sign. Trump does not understand how Iran plays the game.

Trump is a chump. Iran is playing Trump like a Yo-Yo. "Hoorah! We are only days away!!!" yeah right ... sure you are, you sucker

...speculation...guesswork...
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« Reply #2449 on: Sunday, Jun 07, 2026 01:58 pm »
...speculation...guesswork...

And 47 years' worth of actual history!
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