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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2400 on: Today at 06:42 am »
Trump must 'accept the reality' there is no Iran deal on the horizon, ex-general declares
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Retired four-star Gen. Jack Keane said enough with the diplomatic charade — Iran is stalling for time and the best solution is to resume full-scale war.

The chairman of the Institute for the Study of War and former Army vice chief of staff on Friday blasted eight weeks of fruitless talks as a waste while the mullahs play games.

“We have to accept the reality that’s just not going to happen,” Keane said on Fox News. “They have one motive: Stretch out negotiations as much as possible, get as close to the political situation in terms of midterm elections, and there will be less likelihood that President Trump would ever pull the trigger and go back to military operations. I believe that is their unstated strategy.”

Even if a deal somehow was inked, Keane warned it would be worthless — and dangerously so.

“We can’t throw them a financial lifeline … because then they’ll systematically reverse everything,” he said. “They’ve always cheated in the past, and they’ll cheat in the future.”

Still, he championed Trump’s decision to launch the war on Feb. 28 — but said the job isn’t over yet.

“Look, in close to 50 years, only one president has taken consequential action against Iran and their predator behavior — and that’s President Trump,” Keane said. “Five weeks of Epic Fury and a naval blockade devastated this regime militarily and economically. They’re down, but they’re not out.”

When operations paused, the IDF and US Central Command had about two weeks left to finish the job, the general said. Now, after eight weeks of watching the Iranians try to recover, the US has even more targets and better intelligence.

“If we go back to military operations — and I believe that’s the preferred option — we should return to full combat operations,” Keane said.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2403 on: Today at 06:55 am »
Trump is now an apologist for Iran.
Trump says, I don't care who or how many people Iran murders or how many allies Iran attacks, as long as no American Troops are killed, the ceasefire is holding.
The current regime in Iran is fine with me. They are proud, reasonable, and brave. What the hell happened to Trump in the last few weeks!?

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I will 'Destroy your Civilization!'
To the protesters and to the people of Iran: 'Hang on, Help is on the way!'

I will bet, based on his current statements and attitude, that Trump will give Iran the money they want in the vain hope that Iran will finally sign his idiotic, foolish, futile 'deal'.

This is beyond TACO. It is quickly turning into open betrayal of all the people who trusted him at his word. Was NATO right all along?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2404 on: Today at 07:01 am »
Trump must 'accept the reality' there is no Iran deal on the horizon, ex-general declares
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The chairman of the Institute for the Study of War and former Army vice chief of staff on Friday blasted eight weeks of fruitless talks as a waste while the mullahs play games.

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https://nypost.com/2026/06/05/world-news/jack-keane-calls-for-trump-to-return-to-war-with-iran-lets-go-big/

Why is a retired four star General choosing the battlefield over a conference table even considered newsworthy?

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2405 on: Today at 07:28 am »
Trump is now an apologist for Iran.
Trump says, I don't care who or how many people Iran murders or how many allies Iran attacks, as long as no American Troops are killed, the ceasefire is holding.
The current regime in Iran is fine with me. They are proud, reasonable, and brave. What the hell happened to Trump in the last few weeks!?

Flashback a month ago,
I will only accept 'Unconditional Surrender!'
I will 'Destroy your Civilization!'
To the protesters and to the people of Iran: 'Hang on, Help is on the way!'

I will bet, based on his current statements and attitude, that Trump will give Iran the money they want in the vain hope that Iran will finally sign his idiotic, foolish, futile 'deal'.

This is beyond TACO. It is quickly turning into open betrayal of all the people who trusted him at his word. Was NATO right all along?

Glad you brought those points up. I have a wild, wildly radical theory about 47's behavior, since he declared a unilateral ceasefire and begin begging the Iranian for a deal and is now an Iranian apologist, as you mentioned.

Some one will have to look at the time line here, between when the Iranians told the clowns that they had enough material for 11 nukes and when the "ceasefire" was declared.

Why 11? Why not 10 or 12? Did they not plan how many they intended to produce in advance?

What if they made 12? And during the 4 years of Biden, some group of Iranians and cartel members smuggled one across the southern border? What if when 47 threatened to wipe Iran out, they sent a quiet message and proof that in some US city there was a nuke ... waiting for 47 to go too far?

This would explain his sudden character change, his begging Iran for a deal.

Anyway, I though I'd throw it out there as food for thought ... which will be debunked rapidly I'm sure.





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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
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Why is a retired four star General choosing the battlefield over a conference table even considered newsworthy?
Because he speaks the truth? :shrug:

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2407 on: Today at 07:51 am »

Trump vows to bring American boots on the ground in Iran if a deal isn't struck as ceasefire begins to crumble
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15880805/Trump-American-boots-ground-Iran-deal-ceasefire.html
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Posting just the headline because, just like Iran, I no longer believe anything Trump says about the war.
When it comes to Iran, Trump is full of shit. I'm not falling for it anymore.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2408 on: Today at 07:56 am »
Trump says Iran conflict doesn't break campaign promise because it's 'not an endless war'

President Donald Trump denied that launching the Iran conflict broke his campaign promise of "no new wars" because it is not an "endless war" on Sunday.

Trump made the statement in an interview with NBC News after being pressed on the issue by host Kristen Welker.

"I didn't promise anything. I don't like these endless wars. This is not an endless war," Trump said.

"So you're saying you didn't break your promise. And yet, Mr. President, in your first term, you held to that promise and it was so fundamental to who you were as a candidate, to a first-term president. What changed, because you insisted 'no new wars'?"

"First of all, I didn't guarantee no war. Why would I have built the strongest military in the world? I built our military. I inherited a terrible military. We had no equipment. We had nothing. I built a tremendous military. Biden gave a lot of it away, but it's still a relatively small portion compared to what I built," Trump responded.

Trump went on to say that Iran was very close to developing a nuclear weapon prior to U.S. intervention, and that he was doing the world a "favor."
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2409 on: Today at 08:11 am »
Posting just the headline because, just like Iran, I no longer believe anything Trump says about the war.


Then you are a fool.  You are no better than the fake press, picking and choosing what you think people should read. 
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« Reply #2410 on: Today at 08:18 am »
Then you are a fool.  You are no better than the fake press, picking and choosing what you think people should read.

I don't think he is trying to do that...Speaking as one who posts a lot of articles you have to pick and choose what you think is true or at least reliable...it gets harder and harder what to believe.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2411 on: Today at 08:41 am »
Trump vows to bring American boots on the ground in Iran if a deal isn't struck as ceasefire begins to crumble
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15880805/Trump-American-boots-ground-Iran-deal-ceasefire.html
read it if you want to ...

Posting just the headline because, just like Iran, I no longer believe anything Trump says about the war.
When it comes to Iran, Trump is full of shit. I'm not falling for it anymore.

There's a lot of 'information' floating around out there which makes it difficult to discern what is truly happening. 

I can only hope that Trump is listening to his military advisors; Cane and Hegseth in particular.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2412 on: Today at 08:41 am »
Trump is now an apologist for Iran.
Trump says, I don't care who or how many people Iran murders or how many allies Iran attacks, as long as no American Troops are killed, the ceasefire is holding. The current regime in Iran is fine with me. They are proud, reasonable, and brave.

Are these words ⬆️ the President's or are you posting using your poetic license?

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Flashback a month ago,
I will only accept 'Unconditional Surrender!'
I will 'Destroy your Civilization!'
To the protesters and to the people of Iran: 'Hang on, Help is on the way!'

Would any of these actual new realities justify a change in the US military trajectory? -----

° It will take more than a few weeks and air power to find and destroy Iran's ballistic missiles and enriched uranium
° Iran is not too weakened and *does* have the means to fu@k with the Strait of Hormuz
° The Kurds ain't coming to arm and help the Iranian revolution, neither is Mossad --- it would be only the US.. 
° The destruction of Iran's infrastructure needs thumbs up from the Gulf States and first the Gulf states need confidence that going forward Israel's border crossing military attacks stop.





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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
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Glad you brought those points up. I have a wild, wildly radical theory about 47's behavior, since he declared a unilateral ceasefire and begin begging the Iranian for a deal and is now an Iranian apologist, as you mentioned.

Some one will have to look at the time line here, between when the Iranians told the clowns that they had enough material for 11 nukes and when the "ceasefire" was declared.

Why 11? Why not 10 or 12? Did they not plan how many they intended to produce in advance?

What if they made 12? And during the 4 years of Biden, some group of Iranians and cartel members smuggled one across the southern border? What if when 47 threatened to wipe Iran out, they sent a quiet message and proof that in some US city there was a nuke ... waiting for 47 to go too far?

This would explain his sudden character change, his begging Iran for a deal.

Anyway, I though I'd throw it out there as food for thought ... which will be debunked rapidly I'm sure.


We do know that Iran threatened and targeted his daughter, Ivanka.  As for nukes how many they posses, I don't know, perhaps no one knows,  but I think an equally pressing issue which I think we should be relatively concerned with are all the sleeper cells within the U.S. that the FBI/CIA likely haven't tracked, or know where they are and maybe Iran has warned Trump they will destroy the U.S. from within; our grid, infrastructure, etc.  It would make 9-11 look pale in comparison.

I think that scenario is highly likely -- just my opinion.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #2414 on: Today at 09:27 am »
If any of the 'blackmail' scenarios are true, a 'deal' will not stop Iran from doing it anyway.
Iran has zero respect for 'deals'. They do not even recognize them as being anything at all.
Iran does whatever it wants to do anytime they want to do it. A silly 'deal' will not stop them.
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If any of the 'blackmail' scenarios are true, a 'deal' will not stop Iran from doing it anyway.
Iran has zero respect for 'deals'. They do not even recognize them as being anything at all.
Iran does whatever it wants to do anytime they want to do it. A silly 'deal' will not stop them.

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If any of the 'blackmail' scenarios are true, a 'deal' will not stop Iran from doing it anyway.
Iran has zero respect for 'deals'. They do not even recognize them as being anything at all.
Iran does whatever it wants to do anytime they want to do it. A silly 'deal' will not stop them.

I don't think an unenforceable deal is the desired result, but I do think collapsed talks could provide the excuse to send in some troops and kick some serious ass.
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I don't think an unenforceable deal is the desired result, but I do think collapsed talks could provide the excuse to send in some troops and kick some serious ass.
Judging from how Trump has coddled Iran to prevent the so-called 'ceasefire' from collapsing, despite multiple serious blatant violations by Iran, I doubt that Trump will allow the talks to collapse no matter what Iran does. Trump is a businessman. Businessmen live by 'negotiations'. Trump is in his home environment, even though it is not applicable to Iran or to war.

Trump will keep the so-called 'talks' going on forever. Trump will never allow the talks to collapse no matter what Iran does. Iran knows this.

The talks have already collapsed many times, but Trump keeps resuscitating it.
The ceasefire has collapsed many times, but Trump refuses to acknowledge it.
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« Reply #2418 on: Today at 10:02 am »
Judging from how Trump has coddled Iran to prevent the so-called 'ceasefire' from collapsing, despite multiple serious blatant violations by Iran, I doubt that Trump will allow the talks to collapse no matter what Iran does. Trump is a businessman. Businessmen live by 'negotiations'. Trump is in his home environment, even though it is not applicable to Iran or to war.

Trump will keep the so-called 'talks' going on forever. Trump will never allow the talks to collapse no matter what Iran does. Iran knows this.

The talks have already collapsed many times, but Trump keeps resuscitating it.
The ceasefire has collapsed many times, but Trump refuses to acknowledge it.

I don't know how long Trump intends to wait before he deems the talks to be "collapsed."   :shrug:
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