Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4

[Idiot]

This may be Trump's wish list, but Iran is never going to agree to this. Especially with Iran not communicating, it's not going to happen. Never.  I believe that Rubio knows this.


Rubio lays out Trump's phase 1 and 2 demands in Iran negotiations

Secretary of State Marco Rubio laid out President Donald Trump's strategy amid peace negotiations with Iran, saying the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz is only a "prerequisite" for talks.

Rubio made the remarks during an appearance before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday, telling lawmakers that Iran must end its belligerence in the region.

"They have to announce, very clearly, the straits are now open, we're not charging a toll, we'll help remove the mines that they put in there, and they will not fire on ships," Rubio said.

"In addition to the straits, that's the predicate that opens the door to phase two. Phase two is they have to commit to very specific negotiations on highly enriched--the disposition of highly enriched uranium that still is buried deep in a mountain somewhere," he continued, adding that Iran would have to agree to long-term limitations on its nuclear program.

I've come to believe that we really have no intention of any type of a peace agreement.  We are just squeezing them economically.  They are like a pressure cooker whose population will explode at some point.  Either the people will revolt or they'll attack us.  One of those 2 will happen.

[Cyber Liberty]

I've come to believe that we really have no intention of any type of a peace agreement.  We are just squeezing them economically.  They are like a pressure cooker whose population will explode at some point.  Either the people will revolt or they'll attack us.  One of those 2 will happen.

So far, they've been attacking us in their favorite way...sending assassins to kill Trump and/or his family.

[libertybele]

I've come to believe that we really have no intention of any type of a peace agreement.  We are just squeezing them economically.  They are like a pressure cooker whose population will explode at some point.  Either the people will revolt or they'll attack us.  One of those 2 will happen.

The people have been revolting and consequently were slaughtered. 

They will not only start to attack us from within in a short period of time, but once they have nukes they will attack us from a distance .... perhaps not even from their shores, but our shores.

Right now something can be done to prevent the inevitable, but for whatever reason the Trump administration is refraining.

Just my opinion.

[mystery-ak]

Rubio confirms US has not attempted to arm Iranian civilians: 'Certainly not'

Secretary of State Marco Rubio confirmed that the U.S. has not made an attempt to arm Iranian civilians in hopes to overthrow their government amid conflict in the Middle East.

Rubio made the statement during an exchange with Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, during a Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearings.

Cruz asked Rubio directly about whether arming civilians had been considered.

"I'm not aware of any program to arm civilians in Iran to overthrow their government. I mean there may be other countries doing it or other elements, but certainly not the U.S. government," Rubio responded.
Posted by Anders Hagstrom

[mystery-ak]

Secretary of State Marco Rubio laid out President Donald Trump's strategy amid peace negotiations with Iran, saying the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz is only a "prerequisite" for talks.

Rubio made the remarks during an appearance before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday, telling lawmakers that Iran must end its belligerence in the region.

"They have to announce, very clearly, the straits are now open, we're not charging a toll, we'll help remove the mines that they put in there, and they will not fire on ships," Rubio said.

"In addition to the straits, that's the predicate that opens the door to phase two. Phase two is they have to commit to very specific negotiations on highly enriched--the disposition of highly enriched uranium that still is buried deep in a mountain somewhere," he continued, adding that Iran would have to agree to long-term limitations on its nuclear program.
Posted by Anders Hagstrom

[Cyber Liberty]

Rubio confirms US has not attempted to arm Iranian civilians: 'Certainly not'

Secretary of State Marco Rubio confirmed that the U.S. has not made an attempt to arm Iranian civilians in hopes to overthrow their government amid conflict in the Middle East.

Rubio made the statement during an exchange with Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, during a Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearings.

Cruz asked Rubio directly about whether arming civilians had been considered.

"I'm not aware of any program to arm civilians in Iran to overthrow their government. I mean there may be other countries doing it or other elements, but certainly not the U.S. government," Rubio responded.
Posted by Anders Hagstrom

Rubio understands the concept of "plausible deniability."

[libertybele]

Rubio understands the concept of "plausible deniability."

It to me is very obvious that Rubio is very knowledgeable and competent and why he didn't lead the negotiations with Iran we'll never know; instead Mutt & Jeff (Kushner & Witcoff) were sent.

[Cyber Liberty]

It to me is very obvious that Rubio is very knowledgeable and competent and why he didn't lead the negotiations with Iran we'll never know; instead Mutt & Jeff (Kushner & Witcoff) were sent.

Would the Iranian two-step tango had been any different if it was Rubio instead of those two?  I don't think so, but it did lead to doubts about Kushner and Witcoff's motives, which was not helpful here in the US.

[libertybele]

Would the Iranian two-step tango had been any different if it was Rubio instead of those two?  I don't think so, but it did lead to doubts about Kushner and Witcoff's motives, which was not helpful here in the US.

We'll never know if the outcome would have been any different but I think there may have been a greater possibility of success with his expertise, personna, professionalism and insight than with the other two.  Trump would have been more reliant on his opinion rather than that of his SIL who I still believe was an inappropriate and even questionable choice to represent the U.S. and President Trump.

[Bigun]

We'll never know if the outcome would have been any different but I think there may have been a greater possibility of success with his expertise, personna, professionalism and insight than with the other two.  Trump would have been more reliant on his opinion rather than that of his SIL who I still believe was an inappropriate and even questionable choice to represent the U.S. and President Trump.

There was never any possibility of success for diplomacy with people obsessed with killing us! 

[Idiot]

Rubio understands the concept of "plausible deniability."

LOLOLOLOL....exactly right.  We aren't doing it, but we can't speak for other countries, who we happen to be shipping arms for the people of Iran...lol.

[Cyber Liberty]

We'll never know if the outcome would have been any different but I think there may have been a greater possibility of success with his expertise, personna, professionalism and insight than with the other two.  Trump would have been more reliant on his opinion rather than that of his SIL who I still believe was an inappropriate and even questionable choice to represent the U.S. and President Trump.

No, the outcome would NOT have been any different!!  The game the Iranians are playing would not have been one iota different! Get this straight:   Iran wasn't going to give up the nukes, or get out of the Strait of Hormuz no matter who's face was across the table!

[libertybele]

No, the outcome would NOT have been any different!!  The game the Iranians are playing would not have been one iota different! Get this straight:   Iran wasn't going to give up the nukes, or get out of the Strait of Hormuz no matter who's face was across the table!

You are correct, sir!!

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

So the whole thing was pointless as I suspected.

[libertybele]

There was never any possibility of success for diplomacy with people obsessed with killing us! 

Yes, you are absolutely right.

[BobfromWB]

Rubio confirms US has not attempted to arm Iranian civilians: 'Certainly not'

Secretary of State Marco Rubio confirmed that the U.S. has not made an attempt to arm Iranian civilians in hopes to overthrow their government amid conflict in the Middle East.

Rubio made the statement during an exchange with Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, during a Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearings.

Cruz asked Rubio directly about whether arming civilians had been considered.

"I'm not aware of any program to arm civilians in Iran to overthrow their government. I mean there may be other countries doing it or other elements, but certainly not the U.S. government," Rubio responded.
Posted by Anders Hagstrom

Arrogant little bastard, he is.

[Idiot]

Arrogant little bastard, he is.

LOL....  I thought I was a grumpy old man, but you've got me beat. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Arrogant little bastard, he is.

Pisses you off, doesn't it?

[BobfromWB]

Secretary of State Marco Rubio

"They have to announce, very clearly, the straits are now open, we're not charging a toll, we'll help remove the mines that they put in there, and they will not fire on ships," Rubio said.

In other words, the Straits have to return to it original condition before 47's War. Then they will discuss other matters = big whoop.  A war 47 was ill-advised to start and now is ill-advised to end. Poor sod.

[BobfromWB]

We'll never know if the outcome would have been any different but I think there may have been a greater possibility of success with his expertise, personna, professionalism and insight than with the other two.  Trump would have been more reliant on his opinion rather than that of his SIL who I still believe was an inappropriate and even questionable choice to represent the U.S. and President Trump.

There would have been no better at achieving a success, just better media coverage of the failure.

[BobfromWB]

LOL....  I thought I was a grumpy old man, but you've got me beat. 

Thanks!!