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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1800 on: May 24, 2026, 06:52:55 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pAIkDRPkec


For reasons I cannot begin to explain, Trump is deadset and determined to snatch defeat from victory.
Everybody is telling Trump that Iran is making a fool out of him, and yet he continues undeterred.
"I will get a good deal." There should be NO deal at all. Iran should be on their knees groveling before us.

A negotiated diplomatic solution is NO solution to the religious intent of the Mullahs and the IRGC - they will still seek nukes by another avenue, they will still foment terror, they will still murder their own people.

And of course they will rearm & dig in, as they grow their missiles and drones deep under ground. When they have enough and the West is weak willed, wanting to make a deal, they will attack again.

47 has been snookered with a big beautiful deal, not understanding that no deal is any good with liars, cheaters, murderers, thugs backed by religious fervor - a concept that most Westerners and 47 either ignore or dismiss.

After the deal is announced, cheered, media obsessed, lauded, quietly in dark underground IRGC bunkers celebrations will be held, rituals performed, plans laid & drawn up for the next round; they survived the worst the Great Satan could throw at them. They are now a world power to be reckoned with, bowed to and lauded. Islam is on the March, storming one Western country after another - now with a very powerful backer: Iran - the Mad Mullahs and the IRGC.

Sick, broken-hearted does not begin to describe how this big beautiful deal by 47 feels.




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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1801 on: May 24, 2026, 07:01:03 pm »
The Hajj is going on in Saudi Arabia, so it will be quiet for the next few days.

Nuke the Qbala and the Haj, end the scourge of Islam once an forever. No one prays to a failed god.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1802 on: May 24, 2026, 07:04:54 pm »
I don't think so. The Christians and Muslims have been fighting over this territory for 3000 years. They aren't going to stop just because Rubio tells them to.

Your history is a bit weak - Islam only goes back 1400 or so years, not 3000. Christianity goes back 2000 years, Judaism does apparently go back at least 3500 years
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1803 on: May 24, 2026, 07:06:44 pm »
Trump has been warned by various people about the dangers of giving in to Iran -- I think he realizes it and brokering a deal with Iran is impossible.  I also tend to think that he knows he's going to have to put boots on the ground in order to win which weighs very heavily with him.  He doesn't have the support of the GOP nor the DEMS nor our allies.  One heck of a position to be in.

Kushner prodded him to go in.  Vance was reluctant.  Heck of a position to be in.

What has stalled President Trump from suddenly continuing to let all hell break loose on Iran, I have no idea.  That's what many of us question.

Lack of firepower from what I've read could be a possibility.  ???
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1804 on: May 24, 2026, 07:14:51 pm »
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I just heard from my buddies in the Pentagon. The agreement is almost done. Apparently, Iran is balking at having to accept “MyPillows” as their only bedding choice.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1805 on: May 24, 2026, 07:15:52 pm »
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I just heard from my buddies in the Pentagon. The agreement is almost done. Apparently, Iran is balking at having to accept “MyPillows” as their only bedding choice.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1806 on: May 24, 2026, 08:33:20 pm »
IF he makes a deal with Iran??? Interesting ...

Trump gives Iran ‘5 to 7 days’ to strike nuclear deal, Tehran insists it doesn’t want bomb

President Donald Trump said Sunday that any deal his administration reaches with Iran would be “good and proper” and sharply contrasted it with the Obama-era nuclear agreement.

“If I make a deal with Iran, it will be a good and proper one, not like the one made by Obama, which gave Iran massive amounts of CASH, and a clear and open path to a Nuclear Weapon,” Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.

“Our deal is the exact opposite, but nobody has seen it, or knows what it is. It isn’t even fully negotiated yet,” he said.

“So don’t listen to the losers, who are critical about something they know nothing about,” Trump added, saying that “unlike those before me who should have solved this problem many years ago, I don’t make bad deals

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-peace-deal-hormuz-may-24
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1808 on: May 24, 2026, 09:09:53 pm »
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What Trump doesn't quite seem to grasp, is that the islamic regime can agree to whatever terms he has, and they'll still abandon them the SECOND he is out of office.

The IRGC knows no other leader after Trump will ever enforce a deal.

This. Will. Never. Work. Long. Term.



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1809 on: May 24, 2026, 09:13:30 pm »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1810 on: May 24, 2026, 09:20:21 pm »
No matter what kind of 'deal' Trump makes, Trump/U.S. will be viewed as weak and defeated by Iran and the entire Arab world.
He does not understand the culture. Just the very fact that Iran survived at all is seen as a "Great Victory!" for Iran and for Islam.
The fact that he came groveling to them to 'make a deal' is even more evidence that Iran defeated the Great Satan, in the Arab world.

Unless Trump finishes what he started, Trump will leave a legacy ten times worse than Carter and Obama combined.
Muslims will consider themselves to be unbeatable. They will look at the United States as weak and indecisive.
Trump thinks he is showing Iran 'mercy'. Islamists have no mercy at all and they do not understand it. In Islam Mercy = Fear/Cowardice.

Sometimes, the enemy of my enemy, is also my enemy.
Islam sanitizes oppression. Islam rebrands cruelty as culture, and expects applause from Liberal fools for their Islamic progressivism.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1811 on: May 24, 2026, 09:34:51 pm »
Trump: Iran Deal Is ‘Exact Opposite’ of Obama’s — ‘Don’t Listen to the Losers … I Don’t Make Bad Deals’

President Donald Trump on Sunday forcefully defended the emerging U.S.-Iran peace framework as “THE EXACT OPPOSITE” of former President Barack Obama’s nuclear deal, insisting Tehran would receive no sanctions relief or economic concessions unless it surrendered its enriched uranium and permanently abandoned any path toward a nuclear weapon as negotiators worked to finalize what administration officials described as a nearly completed agreement.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1812 on: May 24, 2026, 09:35:39 pm »
Your history is a bit weak - Islam only goes back 1400 or so years, not 3000. Christianity goes back 2000 years, Judaism does apparently go back at least 3500 years

The tribal separation that became Islam started with Abraham and his brother. The tribe of Abraham's brother became the Muslims, the  tribe of Abraham was replaced by the Christians after the Jews lost Israel. The basic conflict goes back 3000 years.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1813 on: May 24, 2026, 09:44:17 pm »
Iran threatens to quit nuclear treaty, break 'naval blockade' in Strait of Hormuz: report

Mohsen Rezaei, a military adviser to Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei, said Sunday that managing the Strait of Hormuz was Tehran’s “legal right” to ensure national security, according to reports.

“Iran’s management of the Strait of Hormuz ends 50 years of insecurity in the Persian Gulf,” Iranian news agencies quoted Rezaei as saying, according to The Jersusalem Post.

Rezaei, who is subject to U.S. sanctions, also said that Iran has “strong reasons” for keeping control over the Strait, claiming Tehran’s objective is to prevent the Persian Gulf from becoming a center for military deployments and instability.

Rezaei's remarks were published Sunday by Mehr News Agency, a semi-official Iranian news outlet.

Meanwhile, Iran's official IRGC spokesperson Ibrahim Al-Fiqar warned if Hormuz was attacked, Tehran's forces would break the US blockade of Iranian ports.

At the same time, Al-Fiqar also threatened Iran leaving the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT)

"If the enemy attacks the Strait of Hormuz, we will break the naval blockade and may withdraw from the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT)," he said Sunday in a post shared on X.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1814 on: May 24, 2026, 10:34:55 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1sq2kjJArg


@Idiot Trump cannot mentally grasp that Muslims see 'negotiations' as nothing more than buying time.
Everything they say is a lie. Muslims have NO desire for 'Peace'.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1815 on: May 24, 2026, 10:52:40 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1sq2kjJArg


Idiot Trump cannot mentally grasp that Muslims see 'negotiations' as nothing more than buying time.
Everything they say is a lie. Muslims have NO desire for 'Peace'.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1816 on: May 24, 2026, 11:02:45 pm »
The tribal separation that became Islam started with Abraham and his brother. The tribe of Abraham's brother became the Muslims

That is incorrect.  Abraham's brother, Haran, died.  Haran's son was Lot.  Lot's descendants became the Moabites and the Ammonites.  Both tribes have been wiped out.

It was Abraham's first son, Ishmael from whom the muslim Arabs descended.  Yet the Q'oran doesn't mention his name.  The Jews descended from Abraham's second son, Isaac.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1817 on: May 24, 2026, 11:19:11 pm »
Why hasn't U.S.-Iran deal been signed yet?

Senior Iran Analyst Dror Balazada reports the bone of contention between the terror regime and the U.S. is about 22 billion dollars, which the Iranians are demanding to receive immediately, while the Trump administration is insisting the Iranians hold up their end of the bargain first.

The Iranians have been given a "dream deal" which they are expected to accept, but are currently acting tough in the final stages of negotiations with President Trump.



https://twitter.com/c14israel/status/2058621485288398996



The reason the Iranians are acting tough at the end for the $22 billion is because they have no intention of holding up their end.  And once they are handed the $22 billion, there is no take back.

Every dollar of that amount will go towards their nuclear program and rearming Hezbollah and Hamas.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1818 on: Today at 01:26:24 am »

https://twitter.com/EliAfriatISR/status/2058677422313164877
Now let them go back in their bunkers. We should have a really good target list.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
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The tribal separation that became Islam started with Abraham and his brother. The tribe of Abraham's brother became the Muslims, the  tribe of Abraham was replaced by the Christians after the Jews lost Israel. The basic conflict goes back 3000 years.
I believe you are referring to Abraham's sons, Isaac and Ishmael. Ishmael was the son Abraham had by his bondwoman Hagar, and considered by many to be the progenitor of the Muslims. Isaac was Abraham's son by his wife, Sarah, and the progenitor of the Jews, including Jesus, and Christians later on were drawn from all who believed in Christ, regardless of lineage.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1820 on: Today at 06:54:16 am »
Hagar got in trouble with the tribe for poor work habits.  They said Hagar slacks.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1821 on: Today at 08:34:44 am »
 Trump admin declares ‘no dust, no dollars’ for Iran — Islamic Republic must give up nuclear material before sanctions relief
By Miranda Devine,
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Ryan King
Published May 24, 2026
Updated May 24, 2026, 5:51 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON — The White House vowed “no dust, no dollars” for Iran on Sunday — asserting that unless the Islamic Republic gives up its enriched uranium, it will get no sanctions relief — as President Trump tapped the brakes on forecasting a peace deal that would reopen the Strait of Hormuz.

Trump revealed Saturday that the US and Iran were close on a memorandum of understanding that would get oil flowing again while allowing 30 days for nuclear negotiations.

The plan unleashed panic among some Republicans and Israel backers — prompting Trump officials to clarify that no deal was imminent, and that it would take at least five to seven days to finalize any agreement.
Crucially, a senior administration official stressed that Iran would gain little without fulfilling back-room pledges to surrender its enriched uranium.

“Both sides must take their time and get it right. There can be no mistakes!” Trump wrote on Truth Social, Sunday — a day after saying the the deal with Iran was “largely negotiated.”

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Iran's supreme leader is holed up in undisclosed location, U.S. intelligence says
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U.S. intelligence shows that Iran's supreme leader is effectively holed up in an undisclosed location with little access to the outside world and is only reached by a labyrinth of couriers, according to U.S. officials with knowledge of the matter.

The Iranian officials authorized to work with the Trump administration have been having a difficult time communicating inside of their own government system — and it's a central reason why the details of a potential deal with Iran and past agreements have been slow to emerge.

When the U.S. sends proposed details, the difficulty in reaching the supreme leader means there can be a long delay before the U.S. receives a response, two of the officials said.

A White House spokesperson declined to comment on intelligence on the supreme leader's whereabouts or Iranian communication methods.

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President Trump calls on Saudi Arabia and Qatar to immediately sign the Abraham Accords, adding that other countries involved in the talks should follow suit. He also said if Iran signs the agreement under negotiation, it would be an honor to have them as part of the Accords.
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I thought the Saudis already signed the Abraham Accords?
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Negotiations with the Islamic Republic of Iran are proceeding nicely! It will only be a Great Deal for all or, no Deal at all — Back to the Battlefront and shooting, but bigger and stronger than ever before — And nobody wants that! During my discussions on Saturday with President Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, of The United Arab Emirates, Emir Tamim bin Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim bin Jaber Al Thani, and Minister Ali al-Thawadi, of Qatar, Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir Ahmed Shah, of Pakistan, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, of Türkiye, President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi, of Egypt, King Abdullah II, of Jordan, and King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa, of Bahrain, I stated that, after all the work done by the United States to try and pull this very complex puzzle together, it should be mandatory that all of these Countries, at a minimum, simultaneously, sign onto the Abraham Accords. Those Countries discussed are Saudi Arabia, The United Arab Emirates (already a Member!), Qatar, Pakistan, Türkiye, Egypt, Jordan, and Bahrain (already a Member!). It may be possible that one or two have a reason for not doing so, and that will be accepted, but most should be ready, willing, and able to make this Settlement with Iran a far more Historic Event than it would, otherwise, be. The Abraham Accords have proven to be, for the Countries involved (The United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan, and Kazakhstan), a Financial, Economic, and Social BOOM, even during this time of Conflict and War, with the current Members never even suggesting leaving, or taking so much as even a pause. The reason for this is that the Abraham Accords have been great for them, and will be even better for everybody, and bring true Power, Strength, and Peace to the Middle East for the first time in 5,000 years. It will be a Document respected like no other that has ever been signed, anywhere in the World. Its level of Importance and Prestige will be unparalleled! It should start with the immediate signing by Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and everybody else should follow suit. If they don’t, they should not be part of this Deal in that it shows bad intention. In speaking to numerous of the Great Leaders mentioned above, they would be honored, as soon as our Document is signed, to have the Islamic Republic of Iran as part of the Abraham Accords. Wow, now that would be something special! This will be the most important Deal that any of these Great, but always in Conflict Countries, will ever sign. Nothing in the past, or in the future, will surpass it. Therefore, I am mandatorily requesting that all Countries immediately sign the Abraham Accords, and that, if Iran signs its Agreement with me, as President of the United States of America, it would be an Honor to have them also be part of this unparalleled World Coalition. The Middle East would be United, Powerful, and Economically Strong, like perhaps no other area, anywhere in the World! By copy of this TRUTH, I am asking my Representatives to begin, and successfully complete, the process of signing these Countries into the already Historic Abraham Accords. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

DONALD J. TRUMP
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

May 25, 2026, 8:23 AM

I don't even know where to start with this deranged post by Trump.  He sounds completely off the rails this morning.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1827 on: Today at 10:06:31 am »
I don't even know where to start with this deranged post by Trump.  He sounds completely off the rails this morning.

He may sound off the rails a lot, but somehow the train usually ends up where it's supposed to go.   :shrug:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1828 on: Today at 11:13:20 am »
I don't even know where to start with this deranged post by Trump.  He sounds completely off the rails this morning.

You know, I have wondered a couple of times if he has gone off the rails.  This conflict with Iran may have just pushed him over the edge.  He's a very strong and intelligent man, but with all the bogus accusations,  impeachments,  court hearings,  and other political  witch hunts along with assassination attempts and threats against Ivanka, he may have reached his limit.  There's also his age to consider.

On the other hand, him forcing  Iran to sign  the Abraham Accords may be the icing on the cake that he's hoping for. Should they back down on whatever was agreed to, that gives him a reason to finish the job he started.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1829 on: Today at 11:28:06 am »
You know, I have wondered a couple of times if he has gone off the rails.  This conflict with Iran may have just pushed him over the edge.  He's a very strong and intelligent man, but with all the bogus accusations,  impeachments,  court hearings,  and other political  witch hunts along with assassination attempts and threats against Ivanka, he may have reached his limit.  There's also his age to consider.

On the other hand, him forcing  Iran to sign  the Abraham Accords may be the icing on the cake that he's hoping for. Should they back down on whatever was agreed to, that gives him a reason to finish the job he started.

Let us not forget the misreporting of this topic is over the top by both sides of the press!  It's been so bad that nobody can tell what the truth is!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1831 on: Today at 12:33:24 pm »
The tribal separation that became Islam started with Abraham and his brother. The tribe of Abraham's brother became the Muslims, the  tribe of Abraham was replaced by the Christians after the Jews lost Israel. The basic conflict goes back 3000 years.

Well you reading of history leaves a lot to be desired since its made up by some fanatical christian sect.

There is no 3000 year old "basic conflict" except in your head.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1832 on: Today at 12:49:34 pm »
Iran Sends Negotiators to Qatar, Complaining That U.S. Demands Are ‘Excessive’

Frances Martel 25 May 2026

Iranian Parliament Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi are in Doha, Qatar, as of Monday for negotiations with neighboring states in the service of finalizing a peace agreement with the United States.

The visit follows a series of public statements from President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio affirming that Tehran and Washington have made progress in their negotiations towards peace. Both have cautioned that the two sides still disagree sharply on core issues remaining unresolved and that talks will take time to yield results, but the tone of their remarks indicated an optimism absent from previous attempts at ending the conflict.

President Trump announced Operation Epic Fury in February, meant to eliminate Iran’s ability to pose a threat to its neighbors through its missile and drone programs. On February 28, Trump announced that American strikes had killed the longtime dictator of Iran, “supreme leader” Ali Khamenei, and in the ensuing months the governments of America and Israel both confirmed the killing of dozens of high-ranking Iranian officials. In response, Iran’s terrorist Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps launched bombing campaigns against unrelated Gulf Arab states, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Bahrain, and Qatar, among others. Iran is the world’s most prolific state sponsor of terrorism, bankrolling to the tune of millions of dollars organizations such as Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis in Yemen.

The military conflict is currently on hold after President Trump announced an indefinite ceasefire in April to allow space for negotiations to establish a permanent peace. While disrupted occasionally by what President Trump has referred to as “love taps,” the ceasefire has largely held. The major exception has been disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, where the IRGC has established a blockade preventing the free flow of civilian ships, significantly damaging global commerce. The U.S. Navy established a blockade of only Iranian ships passing through the Strait in response to the Iranian piracy campaign, intended to pressure Iran to once again allow free transit in the critical commercial byway.

The Emirati newspaper The National reported on Monday that the first step towards a peace agreement is expected to be a memorandum of understanding ending active conflict. Following that stage, the White House is seeking an agreement that ensures an end to Iran’s illicit nuclear program and the prevention of the Iranian regime obtaining a nuclear weapon. The Iranian regime, meanwhile, is seeking the lifting of all sanctions on the country and unfreezing of assets around the world frozen in response to its decades of support for terrorism.

Specifically, The National listed Iran as demanding maintained control of the Strait of Hormuz, the unfreezing of assets, and a guarantee of no further American military action during talks. The Americans are reportedly seeking full freedom of navigation in the Strait and limits to Iranian nuclear development, including halting uranium enrichment and verification and inspections to ensure that Iran complies with the deal. Currently, Iran is believed to be enriching uranium at a rate incompatible with any known civilian use, but has blocked the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) from inspecting its nuclear sites, making verification impossible.

The state-run Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) confirmed on Monday that Parliament Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf, who has taken on a protagonist role in the talks, is currently in the capital of Qatar for “ongoing diplomatic efforts,” reportedly joining Foreign Minister Araghchi.

“During the visit on Monday, senior Iranian officials are set to hold consultations with Qatari officials on various aspects related to negotiations aimed at halting the war,” IRNA reported.

The independent outlet Iran International reported on Sunday that, according to anonymous sources, the Iranian negotiators are trying to focus talks in Qatar on unfreezing about $12 billion in Iranian assets held in Qatar.

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2026/05/25/iran-sends-negotiators-to-qatar-complaining-that-u-s-demands-are-excessive/
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1833 on: Today at 12:55:41 pm »
Let us not forget the misreporting of this topic is over the top by both sides of the press!  It's been so bad that nobody can tell what the truth is!

Exactly .... somewhere out there is the truth ...  we may never know or within the next coming days, weeks or months we'll find out.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1834 on: Today at 12:56:53 pm »
Iran Sends Negotiators to Qatar, Complaining That U.S. Demands Are ‘Excessive’

Frances Martel 25 May 2026

Iranian Parliament Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi are in Doha, Qatar, as of Monday for negotiations with neighboring states in the service of finalizing a peace agreement with the United States.

The visit follows a series of public statements from President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio affirming that Tehran and Washington have made progress in their negotiations towards peace. Both have cautioned that the two sides still disagree sharply on core issues remaining unresolved and that talks will take time to yield results, but the tone of their remarks indicated an optimism absent from previous attempts at ending the conflict.

President Trump announced Operation Epic Fury in February, meant to eliminate Iran’s ability to pose a threat to its neighbors through its missile and drone programs. On February 28, Trump announced that American strikes had killed the longtime dictator of Iran, “supreme leader” Ali Khamenei, and in the ensuing months the governments of America and Israel both confirmed the killing of dozens of high-ranking Iranian officials. In response, Iran’s terrorist Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps launched bombing campaigns against unrelated Gulf Arab states, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Bahrain, and Qatar, among others. Iran is the world’s most prolific state sponsor of terrorism, bankrolling to the tune of millions of dollars organizations such as Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis in Yemen.

The military conflict is currently on hold after President Trump announced an indefinite ceasefire in April to allow space for negotiations to establish a permanent peace. While disrupted occasionally by what President Trump has referred to as “love taps,” the ceasefire has largely held. The major exception has been disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, where the IRGC has established a blockade preventing the free flow of civilian ships, significantly damaging global commerce. The U.S. Navy established a blockade of only Iranian ships passing through the Strait in response to the Iranian piracy campaign, intended to pressure Iran to once again allow free transit in the critical commercial byway.

The Emirati newspaper The National reported on Monday that the first step towards a peace agreement is expected to be a memorandum of understanding ending active conflict. Following that stage, the White House is seeking an agreement that ensures an end to Iran’s illicit nuclear program and the prevention of the Iranian regime obtaining a nuclear weapon. The Iranian regime, meanwhile, is seeking the lifting of all sanctions on the country and unfreezing of assets around the world frozen in response to its decades of support for terrorism.

Specifically, The National listed Iran as demanding maintained control of the Strait of Hormuz, the unfreezing of assets, and a guarantee of no further American military action during talks. The Americans are reportedly seeking full freedom of navigation in the Strait and limits to Iranian nuclear development, including halting uranium enrichment and verification and inspections to ensure that Iran complies with the deal. Currently, Iran is believed to be enriching uranium at a rate incompatible with any known civilian use, but has blocked the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) from inspecting its nuclear sites, making verification impossible.

The state-run Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) confirmed on Monday that Parliament Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf, who has taken on a protagonist role in the talks, is currently in the capital of Qatar for “ongoing diplomatic efforts,” reportedly joining Foreign Minister Araghchi.

“During the visit on Monday, senior Iranian officials are set to hold consultations with Qatari officials on various aspects related to negotiations aimed at halting the war,” IRNA reported.

The independent outlet Iran International reported on Sunday that, according to anonymous sources, the Iranian negotiators are trying to focus talks in Qatar on unfreezing about $12 billion in Iranian assets held in Qatar.

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2026/05/25/iran-sends-negotiators-to-qatar-complaining-that-u-s-demands-are-excessive/
It seems like every time we are "close to a deal" that the Iranians come up with some excuse to put it off further.  I guess at this point putting it off is only hurting them.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1835 on: Today at 01:25:33 pm »
Trump absolutely knows what he has to do. He has no choice at this point.
Trump can stall and waver, but in the end he must do it.

It hurts him, but he has no choice.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1836 on: Today at 01:47:10 pm »
Trump absolutely knows what he has to do. He has no choice at this point.
Trump can stall and waver, but in the end he must do it.

It hurts him, but he has no choice.

Yes.   :patriot: :patriot:   
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1837 on: Today at 01:55:14 pm »
Let us not forget the misreporting of this topic is over the top by both sides of the press!  It's been so bad that nobody can tell what the truth is!

The truth is he's going to make some sort of Deal, but no matter what it says, Iran will be the victor in the eyes of the entire Islamic world. As a long time King once famously said, Après moi, le déluge. In this case, its a deluge of Islam and muslims victorious over the West's superpower.
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« Reply #1838 on: Today at 02:11:54 pm »
The truth is he's going to make some sort of Deal, but no matter what it says, Iran will be the victor in the eyes of the entire Islamic world. As a long time King once famously said, Après moi, le déluge. In this case, its a deluge of Islam and muslims victorious over the West's superpower.

I pray that their acclaimed victory will be short lived.
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Romans 12:16-18