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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1201 on: May 19, 2026, 10:56:07 am »

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2056747758657126709

A hour away .... here we sit waiting .... again.  What to believe?  Smokescreens, mirrors, pink elephants and leprechauns?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1202 on: May 19, 2026, 10:58:22 am »
I believe you are absolutely correct.  I wonder what deals Kushner made causing the delays and how much $$ he's making?

Now Trump is saying he may never strike Iran again?

Either his inner circle is muddying the waters or Trump is delaying, and bluffing and planning for an all out assault on Iran taking over the Strait and gathering up the uranium.

Wish that was true. But very, very unlikely. With the July 4 anniversary and the midterms coming up, nothing will happen until they are over, and only if the GOP retains both Houses.

Meanwhile, settle back and imagine how many nukes Iran can make while cranking out copies of the 12,000 mile North Korean ICBM they have. The only questions here is will they make plutonium bombs to go with their uranium ones, and will they test their first plutonium bombs in an underground chamber or on Tel Aviv/NYC?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1203 on: May 19, 2026, 10:59:55 am »
Yada, yada, yada....

I'm beginning to wonder if maybe Eric Daughtery's reporting is not credible.  :shrug:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1204 on: May 19, 2026, 11:04:24 am »
Wish that was true. But very, very unlikely. With the July 4 anniversary and the midterms coming up, nothing will happen until they are over, and only if the GOP retains both Houses.

Meanwhile, settle back and imagine how many nukes Iran can make while cranking out copies of the 12,000 mile North Korean ICBM they have. The only questions here is will they make plutonium bombs to go with their uranium ones, and will they test their first plutonium bombs in an underground chamber or on Tel Aviv/NYC?

I would like to believe that you are wrong, but what you are conveying is likely the reality of the situation.   **nononono*
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1205 on: May 19, 2026, 12:00:37 pm »
I'm beginning to wonder if maybe Eric Daughtery's reporting is not credible.  :shrug:

Which is what I've been pointing out all along.  He's just a hysterical cheerleader yelling about Trump's equally vapid pronouncements of the day.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1206 on: May 19, 2026, 12:07:52 pm »
Congressional report lists 42 US aircraft lost or damaged in Iran war


https://twitter.com/prestonstew_/status/2056727068268802191

A new post citing the Congressional Research Service says the U.S. has lost or sustained damage to 42 aircraft so far in the war with Iran.

Preston Stewart, a military commentator, posted on the CRS tallies.

The figures, if confirmed, would point to a significant toll across both manned and unmanned platforms, with drones accounting for the largest share of the listed losses.

The list comes as President Donald Trump has claimed Iran’s air force and navy are “completely gone” and warned that Tehran will not be allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon.

The Pentagon has not immediately released a full public accounting matching the aircraft-by-aircraft breakdown cited in the post.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1207 on: May 19, 2026, 12:59:04 pm »
Trump said he called off Tuesday attack as deal may be near
Iran says its new proposal demands reparations, US troop withdrawal, end to Lebanon war


By Reuters and ToI Staff

Regime warns it will 'open new fronts' if US attacks; Tehran also seeks release of frozen funds and end of US blockade; Pakistani source says US, Iran 'keep changing their goalposts'..........


https://www.timesofisrael.com/
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« Reply #1208 on: May 19, 2026, 01:47:57 pm »
Nuts.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1209 on: May 19, 2026, 03:08:31 pm »
Gen Keane coming up on Fox soon...

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1210 on: May 19, 2026, 03:22:31 pm »
On now

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1211 on: May 19, 2026, 03:24:09 pm »

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The Congressional Research Service just listed the 42 US aircraft lost or damaged so far during the war with Iran.
4 x F-15E Strike Eagles destroyed
1 x F-35A damaged by Iranian ground fire
1 x A-10 destroyed
7 x KC-135 Stratotankers (2 destroyed, 5 damaged)
1 x E-3 Sentry AWACS damaged
2 x MC-130J destroyed
1 x HH-60W helicopter damaged by small arms fire
24 x MQ-9 Reapers destroyed
1 x MQ-4C Triton destroyed
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1212 on: May 19, 2026, 03:29:07 pm »
Keane says Iran wants to drag this out close to midterms, affecting our economy until Trump washes his hands of it..

Keane recommends to continue military aggression until Iran surrenders...
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1214 on: May 19, 2026, 03:34:14 pm »
Netanyahu held five-hour security meeting as Israel readies for potential Iran strike: report

Israel is preparing to take part in a potential U.S. strike on Iran, despite President Donald Trump’s statement on May 18 that he had paused a planned attack, according to reports.

Citing officials, Israeli broadcaster Channel 12 reported Tuesday that officials also believe Trump’s announcement may have limited his options.

The officials suggested that unless Tehran presents a significantly improved proposal — which Israeli leaders consider unlikely — Trump may decide military action is unavoidable, the report says, according to The Times of Israel.

Channel 12’s report also suggested recent developments within Israel showed signs of readiness for a possible strike, adding that Israel would likely coordinate closely with the U.S. in any operation.

The report also notes that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu held a limited security consultation May 18 that lasted nearly five hours.

At the meeting were the IDF chief of staff, the air force commander, the head of military intelligence, the head of the Operations Directorate and other senior defense officials, with discussions focused on ensuring preparedness for the possibility of military action.

Further reports by Channel 12 indicate Israel’s military is on its highest level of alert for possible U.S. action against Iran in the coming days, Iran International reported.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1215 on: May 19, 2026, 03:34:45 pm »
Vance says Trump is ‘locked and loaded’ on Iran if talks fail

Vice President JD Vance said Tuesday that President Donald Trump is still pursuing a diplomatic deal with Iran but remains “locked and loaded” to restart the military campaign if nuclear talks collapse.

"It takes two to tango," Vance told reporters at the White House daily press briefing Tuesday. "We are not going to have a deal that allows the Iranians to have a nuclear weapon.

"So as the president just told me, we're locked and loaded. We don't want to go down that pathway. But the president is willing and able to go down that pathway if we have to."

The administration sees two paths forward, according to Vance: a negotiated agreement that permanently blocks Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, or renewed U.S. military action.

“We think the Iranians want to make a deal,” Vance said. “The president of the United States has asked us to negotiate in good faith. And that’s exactly what we’ve done.”

But Vance warned that diplomacy will not come at the cost of Trump’s core demand that Tehran never obtain a nuclear weapon.

“There’s an option B, and the option B is that we could restart the military campaign to continue to prosecute the case, to continue to try to achieve America’s objectives,” Vance said. “But that’s not what the president wants. And I don’t think it’s what the Iranians want either.”
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1216 on: May 19, 2026, 03:35:33 pm »
That isn't too hard to figure out..



Trump says Gulf leaders knew he was ‘getting ready to attack’ Iran without being told

President Donald Trump remains steadfast in keeping his war plans to himself.

"They knew I was getting ready to attack," Trump told reporters at the White House ballroom construction site. "I didn't tell them. I never tell anybody when.

"But they knew that we were very close. I would say we were, I was an hour away from making the decision to go today, and we would probably not be talking about a beautiful ballroom today. We'd be talking about that."

But Gulf leaders had an inkling, Trump added.

"So they called up, they had heard I made the decision and said, 'Sir, could you give us a couple of more days because we think they're being reasonable?'"
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1217 on: May 19, 2026, 03:40:35 pm »
As Trump obsesses over his stupid 'make a deal' nonsense, Iran is attacking their neighbors and the gulf as the so-called 'talks' are ongoing.

Iran has lost all fear of Trump. Iran no longer respects Trump. Iran no longer fears Trump.

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« Reply #1218 on: May 19, 2026, 03:43:34 pm »
As Trump obsesses over his stupid 'make a deal' nonsense, Iran is attacking their neighbors and the gulf as the so-called 'talks' are ongoing.

Iran has lost all fear of Trump. Iran no longer respects Trump. Iran no longer fears Trump.

Trump has become "The Boy Who Cried WOLF".

Agreed.  Iran no longer fears Trump is not only problematic for him, but for our troops and the United States.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1219 on: May 19, 2026, 04:04:30 pm »
Posted by @mystery-ak

There Is No Such Thing As A Deal With Iran

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A wildly outmatched adversary is “obliterated” by American military power yet remains stubbornly unbowed. Sound familiar?

... We did not assemble the greatest armada the world has known to write Iran a traffic ticket. Our president made a promise to rescue the Iranian people, and that promise must mean something if America is to mean something. No matter what Pete Hegseth says, we set out to defeat the regime. Having undertaken that ostensible goal, if we now leave them in power, we will have made them immeasurably stronger in the eyes of their terrified citizens and the world.

The Iranian theocracy is not a government but a death cult bent on destroying the Jews and the west. We have seen their ilk before. We did not stop 100 miles from Berlin to offer Hitler a “deal.” There is no such thing as a deal with death, and there is no such thing as a deal with Iran. Finish what you started, Mr. President.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1221 on: May 19, 2026, 04:13:39 pm »
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« Reply #1222 on: May 19, 2026, 04:30:09 pm »
Obviously the message that was conveyed at the very beginning of Operation Fury that this war would only last a short period of time was very inaccurate.

I get the feeling from listening to Gen. Keane, that this war will continue on long after Trump has left the building. 

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1223 on: May 19, 2026, 04:43:48 pm »

Finish what you started, Mr. President.


This is the bottom line.  Our patience has run out.  Do it now, or admit defeat!  This "pause" has done nothing for us, but it's aided Iran tremendously.
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« Reply #1224 on: May 19, 2026, 05:04:45 pm »
Either Mr. Trump goes in with a sufficient ground army to conquer iran, or he leaves Israel no choice but to "go it alone".

And since Israel can't "win" a conventional ground war against iran, that leaves them no choice but to use a taste of their "Samson option". Will they have the intestinal fortitude to do so...?

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1225 on: May 19, 2026, 05:10:45 pm »
Trump 'locked and loaded' if Iran fails to come to an agreement on nuclear weapons, Vance says

Vance said that he believes the Iranians want to make a deal, and the president has directed diplomacy efforts to negotiation in "good faith."
By Kevin Killough

Published: May 19, 2026 2:58pm

Vice President JD Vance said Tuesday that President Donald Trump is still hoping that negotiations with Iran will result in an agreement on ending Tehran's nuclear enrichment program. However, Trump remains "locked and loaded," should the negotiations fails.

"It takes two to tango," Vance said at a raucous White House press briefing in which he was a substitute press secretary. "We are not going to have a deal that allows the Iranians to have a nuclear weapon."

Vance said that he believes the Iranians want to make a deal, and the president has directed diplomacy efforts to negotiation in "good faith."

"And that's exactly what we've done," Vance said.

If that doesn't work, Vance said, the U.S. would restart the military campaign.

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https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/trump-locked-and-loaded-if-iran-fails-come-agreement-nuclear?utm_source=justthenews.com&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=external-news-aggregators?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1226 on: May 19, 2026, 05:18:10 pm »
Trump 'locked and loaded' if Iran fails to come to an agreement on nuclear weapons, Vance says

Vance said that he believes the Iranians want to make a deal, and the president has directed diplomacy efforts to negotiation in "good faith."
By Kevin Killough

Published: May 19, 2026 2:58pm

Vice President JD Vance said Tuesday that President Donald Trump is still hoping that negotiations with Iran will result in an agreement on ending Tehran's nuclear enrichment program. However, Trump remains "locked and loaded," should the negotiations fails.

"It takes two to tango," Vance said at a raucous White House press briefing in which he was a substitute press secretary. "We are not going to have a deal that allows the Iranians to have a nuclear weapon."

Vance said that he believes the Iranians want to make a deal, and the president has directed diplomacy efforts to negotiation in "good faith."

"And that's exactly what we've done," Vance said.

If that doesn't work, Vance said, the U.S. would restart the military campaign.

more
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/trump-locked-and-loaded-if-iran-fails-come-agreement-nuclear?utm_source=justthenews.com&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=external-news-aggregators?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign

Is there anybody who believes this "locked and loaded" crapola any more?  Is this why we've been having pause after pause, delay after delay, while we have useless "negotiations" in bad faith:  So when we actually do pull the trigger everybody dies of shock?

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1227 on: May 19, 2026, 05:19:56 pm »
Is anybody who believes this "locked and loaded" crapola any more?  Is this why we've been having pause after pause, delay after delay, while we have useless "negotiations" in bad faith:  So when we actually do pull the trigger everybody dies of shock?

Because I know I will!

Likely we will be pulling the trigger at a later date in our own defense.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1228 on: May 19, 2026, 05:29:28 pm »

Posted by @mystery-ak

There Is No Such Thing As A Deal With Iran

Excerpt:
A wildly outmatched adversary is “obliterated” by American military power yet remains stubbornly unbowed. Sound familiar?

... We did not assemble the greatest armada the world has known to write Iran a traffic ticket. Our president made a promise to rescue the Iranian people, and that promise must mean something if America is to mean something. No matter what Pete Hegseth says, we set out to defeat the regime. Having undertaken that ostensible goal, if we now leave them in power, we will have made them immeasurably stronger in the eyes of their terrified citizens and the world.

The Iranian theocracy is not a government but a death cult bent on destroying the Jews and the west. We have seen their ilk before. We did not stop 100 miles from Berlin to offer Hitler a “deal.” There is no such thing as a deal with death, and there is no such thing as a deal with Iran. Finish what you started, Mr. President.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2026/05/there_is_no_such_thing_as_a_deal_with_iran.html
To my surprise and my amazement, I think Trump would have tried to 'negotiate' with Hitler and the NAZIs. He is essentially doing that now.
And just like he is doing to the Iranian dissidents today, Trump would have told Hitler to kill as many people as he wants to, but NO NUKES!
Hitler would have kept all of his concentration camps running as long as he stopped all nuclear research in Germany.

Trump has some kind of mental illness which makes him irrational; it makes him obsessive compulsive about 'making a deal'.
gotta make a deal ... gotta make a deal ... the deal is the most important thing ... the deal will make Iran nice again ... the deal is the most important part of the war ...

Trump is not waging war with Iran to win the war. Trump is waging war with Iran to force them to 'make a deal'. That is what Trump has declared to be his goal. Trump has said many times that once Iran 'makes a deal', he will consider that to be 'Victory'. And he will then claim that he won the war.

Everybody except Trump, knows full well that ANY 'deal' with Iran is utterly meaningless.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1229 on: May 19, 2026, 05:33:13 pm »
Likely we will be pulling the trigger at a later date in our own defense.

Sometime after one of our cities get turned into glass.  Please be New York!
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« Reply #1230 on: May 19, 2026, 05:36:01 pm »
Sometime after one of our cities get turned into glass.  Please be New York!
I was hoping LA.  happy77

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« Reply #1231 on: May 19, 2026, 05:40:01 pm »
I was hoping LA.  happy77

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1232 on: May 19, 2026, 06:28:03 pm »
To my surprise and my amazement, I think Trump would have tried to 'negotiate' with Hitler and the NAZIs. He is essentially doing that now.
And just like he is doing to the Iranian dissidents today, Trump would have told Hitler to kill as many people as he wants to, but NO NUKES!
Hitler would have kept all of his concentration camps running as long as he stopped all nuclear research in Germany.

Trump has some kind of mental illness which makes him irrational; it makes him obsessive compulsive about 'making a deal'.
gotta make a deal ... gotta make a deal ... the deal is the most important thing ... the deal will make Iran nice again ... the deal is the most important part of the war ...

Trump is not waging war with Iran to win the war. Trump is waging war with Iran to force them to 'make a deal'. That is what Trump has declared to be his goal. Trump has said many times that once Iran 'makes a deal', he will consider that to be 'Victory'. And he will then claim that he won the war.

Everybody except Trump, knows full well that ANY 'deal' with Iran is utterly meaningless.

In the interview with Jack Keane [ above ], he makes the point that in any deal, Iran will want something major and that will be the billions of dollars withheld. With that they will rebuild their military and nuke capability [ no matter what is in the deal ]. So any deal is just going to kick the can down the road to some future administration.

While he did not say this in the interview, he did go to the WH an speak with 47. He must have told him what will happen in any deal. So 47 knows his deal will be the worst thing he could possibly do.

Yet ...he still goes for the deal ...



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« Reply #1233 on: May 19, 2026, 06:30:59 pm »
In the interview with Jack Keane [ above ], he makes the point that in any deal, Iran will want something major and that will be the billions of dollars withheld. With that they will rebuild their military and nuke capability [ no matter what is in the deal ]. So any deal is just going to kick the can down the road to some future administration.

While he did not say this in the interview, he did go to the WH an speak with 47. He must have told him what will happen in any deal. So 47 knows his deal will be the worst thing he could possibly do.

Yet ...he still goes for the deal ...
In all fairness we don't know what the deal is or if in fact there will be one.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1234 on: May 19, 2026, 06:40:19 pm »
Trump just keeps writing the Democrats' campaign ads for them...

http://twitter.com/i/status/2056752936584114197
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« Reply #1235 on: May 19, 2026, 06:47:42 pm »
In all fairness we don't know what the deal is or if in fact there will be one.

Keane suggested that Iran would want their assets unfrozen.  This is not the first time that I've read that or heard it and has been presented to Trump. Unfreezing their assets we all know isn't for rebuilding the country it's for rebuilding their armament.
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« Reply #1236 on: May 19, 2026, 06:57:49 pm »
Keane suggested that Iran would want their assets unfrozen.  This is not the first time that I've read that or heard it and has been presented to Trump. Unfreezing their assets we all know isn't for rebuilding the country it's for rebuilding their armament.

I can imagine circumstances where we unfreeze funds...right after the Shah takes over from the Mullahs after they're exterminated for example....
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« Reply #1237 on: May 19, 2026, 06:58:07 pm »
Congressional report lists 42 US aircraft lost or damaged in Iran war


https://twitter.com/prestonstew_/status/2056727068268802191

A new post citing the Congressional Research Service says the U.S. has lost or sustained damage to 42 aircraft so far in the war with Iran.

Preston Stewart, a military commentator, posted on the CRS tallies.

The figures, if confirmed, would point to a significant toll across both manned and unmanned platforms, with drones accounting for the largest share of the listed losses.

The list comes as President Donald Trump has claimed Iran’s air force and navy are “completely gone” and warned that Tehran will not be allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon.

The Pentagon has not immediately released a full public accounting matching the aircraft-by-aircraft breakdown cited in the post.
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There were raids during WWII that would have felt blessed if they had only lost 42 aircraft--in a single bombing mission.
This number includes damaged aircraft and all reasons for losses and damage, not just enemy action. Some damaged aircraft will either return to service or may become parts sources in a pinch.
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« Reply #1238 on: May 19, 2026, 06:59:30 pm »
Trump just keeps writing the Democrats' campaign ads for them...

http://twitter.com/i/status/2056752936584114197
Trump isn't running for office.
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« Reply #1239 on: Today at 07:21:46 am »
Sometime after one of our cities get turned into glass.  Please be New York!
L.A. I still have friends and family that live in NYS and the surrounding areas of NYC.
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FNC’s Keane: ‘We’re Six Weeks In’ to ‘Two-Week Deadline’ for Iran Deal, Seems Like There’s Just Delay

On Tuesday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Hannity,” Fox News Senior Strategic Analyst Gen. Jack Keane (Ret.) said that with Iran, “We’re six weeks in to what was supposed to be a two-week deadline to get a deal. And
it just seems to be kicking down the road, time and time again.”

Keane said, “The president’s not going to make a bad deal. He’s the nation’s backstop here, for sure. But what’s been going on here? We’re six weeks in to what was supposed to be a two-week deadline to get a deal. And it just seems to be kicking down the road, time and time again. It looks like the Pakistanis, I think, are working with the Iranians in keeping — offering incentives for us to make a deal. We’re getting closer to the deal. But, then, when it comes to actually putting the facts on the table, there’s no deal of substance there that we’re willing to accept.”

He continued, “And I think just for the sake of our audience here, for them to understand that, even if we did make a deal, one of the provisions of the deal will be to unfreeze some of the assets, 100 billion, maybe not all of it at once, but some of it, and then condition the rest of it and unfreeze the sanctions that have been imposed. And that begins to finance, not only the survival of the regime, but the recovery of it. And that means we’re dealing with them for years to come. So there [are] limitations to this deal.”

Keane further stated that we can come up with a defensive plan to protect the energy infrastructure of other nations in the region, and we can threaten Iran that if they attack oil fields, we’ll hit their oil and gas infrastructure.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2026/05/19/fncs-keane-were-six-weeks-in-to-two-week-deadline-for-iran-deal-seems-like-theres-just-delay/
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Iran threatens war ‘beyond the region’ if it is attacked again: report

Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) warned Wednesday that the war would extend “beyond the region” if Tehran suffers further attacks, a report said.

"If aggression against Iran is repeated, the promised regional war ⁠will extend beyond the region this time," the IRGC said in a statement carried by Iranian state media, according to Reuters.

The statement comes after President Donald Trump said Monday that Gulf allies had asked him to put off an attack on Iran for a few days because they felt they were close to a deal with Tehran.

“Well, other countries have come to me, and they’ve said we were getting ready to do a very major attack tomorrow,” Trump said. 

“I put it off for a little while, hopefully maybe forever, but possibly for a little while, because we’ve had very big discussions with Iran, and we’ll see what they amount to,” he added.

Fox News Digital’s Emma Bussey contributed to this post.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1243 on: Today at 09:30:46 am »
Do it already


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« Reply #1244 on: Today at 09:35:21 am »
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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« Reply #1245 on: Today at 09:38:00 am »
Yes, stop pussy-footing around!

IMHO, the election results yesterday has stiffened the Administration's resolve...proving the polls are all bogus.

Willing to test this limb on which I'm perched by saying...there will be NO more 'talking'.  Infrastructure and refinery structures gone in 5-4-3-2-1....
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« Reply #1246 on: Today at 09:46:16 am »
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

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« Reply #1247 on: Today at 09:48:55 am »
FNC’s Keane: ‘We’re Six Weeks In’ to ‘Two-Week Deadline’ for Iran Deal, Seems Like There’s Just Delay

On Tuesday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Hannity,” Fox News Senior Strategic Analyst Gen. Jack Keane (Ret.) said that with Iran, “We’re six weeks in to what was supposed to be a two-week deadline to get a deal. And
it just seems to be kicking down the road, time and time again.”

Keane said, “The president’s not going to make a bad deal. He’s the nation’s backstop here, for sure. But what’s been going on here? We’re six weeks in to what was supposed to be a two-week deadline to get a deal. And it just seems to be kicking down the road, time and time again. It looks like the Pakistanis, I think, are working with the Iranians in keeping — offering incentives for us to make a deal. We’re getting closer to the deal. But, then, when it comes to actually putting the facts on the table, there’s no deal of substance there that we’re willing to accept.”

He continued, “And I think just for the sake of our audience here, for them to understand that, even if we did make a deal, one of the provisions of the deal will be to unfreeze some of the assets, 100 billion, maybe not all of it at once, but some of it, and then condition the rest of it and unfreeze the sanctions that have been imposed. And that begins to finance, not only the survival of the regime, but the recovery of it. And that means we’re dealing with them for years to come. So there [are] limitations to this deal.”

Keane further stated that we can come up with a defensive plan to protect the energy infrastructure of other nations in the region, and we can threaten Iran that if they attack oil fields, we’ll hit their oil and gas infrastructure.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2026/05/19/fncs-keane-were-six-weeks-in-to-two-week-deadline-for-iran-deal-seems-like-theres-just-delay/
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #1249 on: Today at 10:04:11 am »
Yes, stop pussy-footing around!
YOU JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND! WE ARE CLOSE TO MAKING A DEAL ... MAN!
A DEAL! A DEAL! WE ALMOST HAVE A DEAL!!!

SCREW THE WAR! SCREW THE IRANIAN PEOPLE AND THE WORLD!
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE UNIVERSE IS 'MAKING A DEAL'!!
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If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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