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Who will you support in the 2028 Primaries?

Vance
8 (28.6%)
Rubio
7 (25%)
Halley
0 (0%)
DeSantis
9 (32.1%)
GOP- Other (Specify)
1 (3.6%)
Voting in the Democrati Primary
0 (0%)
Trump -write him anyway
0 (0%)
Not Voting
2 (7.1%)
Corbe option- too stoned to vote ?
1 (3.6%)

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Re: Midterm Sentiment for 2028 POTUS
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday, May 20, 01:24 am »
What Cruz did to Carson was reported in the news.  I thought it was malicious at the time, and it cost Cruz.  After he did it, he was finished in the eyes of the electorate.  It is not rumor!
Yeah, it was all over ABCNNBCBS! So it must be true!
No matter, I'd rather have Cruz on SCOTUS.

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And as others have stated on these boards, Rubio may not be eligible to run for POTUS. 
I believe you are correct. He does not pass the Natural Born Citizen requirement.
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In the past, that requirement has been abused by candidates.  I think it is long overdue for the Congress to withdraw from it's many decades of hibernation, stagnation, out right refusal to do their damn job and legislate that, and develop hardcore long lasting laws for immigration.
Immigration laws won't mean squat if they are not enforced. We have seen plenty of that already.
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The citizenry of the US is getting damn tired of illegal invaders having a greater priority than the citizens.  They are tired of being displaced from high paying jobs for the benefit of lower cost foreign labor.  Congress is not worth having if they are not willing to protect the rights of American workers.

THIS BUSINESS OF CHEAP FOREIGN LABOR, USING H1-B VISAS AND OTHER METHODS MUST END.  I know many, mostly from India, here in the USA doing work that displaced US citizens.  Every system project I have been on in the last 20 years included a rather large contingent of foreign workers in China, India, or Ukraine, all receiving a fraction of the wages paid to workers here in the USA.  Projects funded with federal tax dollars, all that money going out to labor in foreign countries.  It must end!!!

The Republican that stands up and speaks to that particular issue will get my vote.  Dems would gladly send work overseas and pack the country with half the world's population, without a single care for the citizens of the USA.
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Re: Midterm Sentiment for 2028 POTUS
« Reply #51 on: Friday, May 22, 08:24 am »
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Yeah, it was all over ABCNNBCBS! So it must be true!
No matter, I'd rather have Cruz on SCOTUS.

I NEVER watch those idiot networks.  It was on Fox News, it was on Newsmax, or perhaps OAN.  At the time, those were the ONLY networks I watched!

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« Reply #52 on: Friday, May 22, 08:39 am »
libertybele,

Sorry, I forgot about Sarah Sanders.  But hell no, she has disappeared into the woodwork, and I do not see her in the next two cycles for POTUS rising up to run for office.

And in regard to Rubio, for the Rubio lovers, he is 100% supportive of amnesty for all aliens in the USA.  And I say f*** that notion.  Anyone that favors that has no business in the Republican Party.  Rubio isn't just a RINO, he is a stinking Democommie wearing a Halloween costume.

And I voted twice for Reagan, thought he was a great POTUS.  He did do quite a few good things  in his day.  But he did some extremely bad things too.  He presided over the largest tax increase in history to that date in time with the changes in Social Security/Medicare.  Max rates for Social Security was $32,000 income if memory serves, and now it has indexed up to $184,000.  The rate was 6.2% and they added 1.45% for Medicare, which one pays on all income, no limit.

And the worst thing he did was sign the legislation that allowed Congress to STEAL MONEY from the Social Security Trust Fund.  PURE, UNADULTERATED THIEVERY, and he signed the legislation.  Unforgiveable!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That is why I never cared for Bob Dole, for his POTUS election self praise was "we solved the problem with Social Security", when in fact, they did not solve sh*t!!!!!

TAX MORE, SPEND MORE!!!  That is the ONLY thing the pukes in Washington know how to do.  Pathetic!  Every last one of them.  The time is long overdue to set a real goal of reducing the national debt.  And the time has come to phase in INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTS FOR RETIREMENT, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO POSITION THE MONEY IN THE MARKET FOR THEIR FUTURE AND NOT HAVE THAT MONEY AT THE FULL DISPOSAL OF THE THIEVES IN CONGRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Midterm Sentiment for 2028 POTUS
« Reply #53 on: Friday, May 22, 12:31 pm »
I NEVER watch those idiot networks.  It was on Fox News, it was on Newsmax, or perhaps OAN.  At the time, those were the ONLY networks I watched!
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Re: Midterm Sentiment for 2028 POTUS
« Reply #54 on: Friday, May 29, 03:30 am »
I'm a registered independent in a closed primary state, so I don't get a choice. Not that any of my first choices has ever made it to the general. Heck, most have ended up out by South Carolina.

The GOP primary electorate has a perversely impressive knack for picking the worst possible candidate consistently the least aligned with my values. Is it any wonder I'm politically homeless?
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« Reply #55 on: Friday, May 29, 06:14 am »
I'm "Undecided" at this point. 
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Re: Midterm Sentiment for 2028 POTUS
« Reply #56 on: Friday, May 29, 10:24 am »
7 weeks in on the poll:

7 Vance
7 Rubio
8 DeSantis

 :pondering:

Big fight in '28?  Or...does DJT's endorsement tip the scale?
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Re: Midterm Sentiment for 2028 POTUS
« Reply #57 on: Friday, May 29, 04:04 pm »
7 weeks in on the poll:

7 Vance
7 Rubio
8 DeSantis

 :pondering:

Big fight in '28?  Or...does DJT's endorsement tip the scale?

JD deciding to run will have a huge impact.
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Re: Midterm Sentiment for 2028 POTUS
« Reply #58 on: Friday, May 29, 04:42 pm »
JD deciding to run will have a huge impact.

Agreed.  If JD runs, I think he's going to run unopposed.

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Re: Midterm Sentiment for 2028 POTUS
« Reply #59 on: Sunday, May 31, 01:49 pm »
Big fight in '28?  Or...does DJT's endorsement tip the scale?
Oh, absolutely it tips the scale.

Heck, if one of his sons announces his candidacy, it's probably over. Or the other possibility is that he purposely chooses an ineligible "front man" (his son Barron, for example) and he runs as VP to test the loophole some have been suggesting.

The man has too big of an ego to let term limits get into the way.

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« Reply #60 on: Sunday, May 31, 02:21 pm »
Oh, absolutely it tips the scale.

Heck, if one of his sons announces his candidacy, it's probably over. Or the other possibility is that he purposely chooses an ineligible "front man" (his son Barron, for example) and he runs as VP to test the loophole some have been suggesting.

The man has too big of an ego to let term limits get into the way.

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Sheesh, I didn't even consider one of Trump's kids running for president.  It's possible, but I don't think I could support that.  We'd need to start a new show....  Trump Dynasty.
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« Reply #61 on: Sunday, May 31, 02:27 pm »
Sheesh, I didn't even consider one of Trump's kids running for president.  It's possible, but I don't think I could support that.  We'd need to start a new show....  Trump Dynasty.

Agreed! It needs to be proven Trumpism can survive Trump, or all of what he accomplishes collapses 1/20/2029.
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« Reply #62 on: Sunday, May 31, 02:28 pm »
Oh, absolutely it tips the scale.

Heck, if one of his sons announces his candidacy, it's probably over. Or the other possibility is that he purposely chooses an ineligible "front man" (his son Barron, for example) and he runs as VP to test the loophole some have been suggesting.

The man has too big of an ego to let term limits get into the way.

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No.  Trump has already announced he won't seek a third term.  I doubt his children are going to run.  Technically the only one eligible would be Tiffany Trump .... I don't see her running.  She is married to a billionaire and she hasn't shown much interest in politics.
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« Reply #63 on: Sunday, May 31, 03:02 pm »
Agreed! It needs to be proven Trumpism can survive Trump, or all of what he accomplishes collapses 1/20/2029.

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« Reply #64 on: Sunday, May 31, 05:01 pm »
For you Republican loyalists, you may want to ask yourselves the question of who can beat Kentucky Gov. Beshear.  You won't find JD Vance on that list.
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« Reply #65 on: Tuesday, Jun 02, 04:48 pm »
For you Republican loyalists, you may want to ask yourselves the question of who can beat Kentucky Gov. Beshear.  You won't find JD Vance on that list.

I had not heard of Beshear; he's in favor of gun ownership.  That's surprising for a liberal.  He's also advocating Peace through Strength.  I'm not sure why J.D. couldn't beat him.  JD is a solid conservative. Beshear according to "On the Issues" (vote match quiz) he is a moderate liberal populist.

So @Hoodat if not JD who do you think can beat Beshear? 

https://www.ontheissues.org/Andy_Beshear.htm
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« Reply #66 on: Tuesday, Jun 02, 06:06 pm »
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Not sure anyone can, other than DeSantis or Rubio.
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For you Republican loyalists, you may want to ask yourselves the question of who can beat Kentucky Gov. Beshear.  You won't find JD Vance on that list.
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Re: Midterm Sentiment for 2028 POTUS
« Reply #68 on: Today at 10:01 am »
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Not sure anyone can, other than DeSantis or Rubio.

I'm assuming you pass on JD because of his attachment to Trump???   What has happened so far in the ME has become a ball and chain to the mid terms and GOP.  We'll see what transpires.  Something tells me though that Trump is going to have no choice but to go back in..
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I'm assuming you pass on JD because of his attachment to Trump???   What has happened so far in the ME has become a ball and chain to the mid terms and GOP.  We'll see what transpires.  Something tells me though that Trump is going to have no choice but to go back in..
All indications are that Trump is going to be all talk and no action in the ME.  I hope I'm wrong.

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Picture of Beshear with anti-Christian LGBTQ group  -- lovely.   He would be a disaster for out country.

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Critics and political opponents allege several controversial actions by Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear during the pandemic, primarily focusing on public safety, religious freedom, and transparency.  Attorney General Daniel Cameron and conservative groups argued that Beshear's executive orders releasing over 1,700 inmates to prevent viral spread in prisons endangered the public, citing data that 47% of those released faced new criminal charges within a year, though many would have been released soon anyway.

Religious freedom lawsuits were filed after Beshear enforced bans on in-person church gatherings and directed state police to record license plates of attendees at services like Maryville Baptist Church to enforce quarantine; courts issued mixed rulings, with some judges calling the restrictions unconstitutional while others upheld them.  Additionally, in January 2023, Attorney General Cameron ruled that Beshear's office violated the open records act by wrongly denying a request for communications regarding school closure decisions, an act critics described as "stonewalling" transparency for parents.

Prisoner Releases: While intended to protect medically vulnerable inmates, opponents highlighted cases where released individuals committed new felonies, including sexual abuse and homicide, though fact-checkers noted some ads exaggerated the direct causal link.
Church Restrictions: The administration faced intense backlash for targeting religious gatherings while allowing other activities, leading to comparisons by plaintiffs to historical civil rights violations.
School Closures: Beyond the records dispute, Beshear faced criticism for ordering schools to stop in-person learning in November 2020, which opponents linked to significant learning loss.

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Critics and political opponents allege several controversial actions by Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear during the pandemic, primarily focusing on public safety, religious freedom, and transparency.  Attorney General Daniel Cameron and conservative groups argued that Beshear's executive orders releasing over 1,700 inmates to prevent viral spread in prisons endangered the public, citing data that 47% of those released faced new criminal charges within a year, though many would have been released soon anyway.

Religious freedom lawsuits were filed after Beshear enforced bans on in-person church gatherings and directed state police to record license plates of attendees at services like Maryville Baptist Church to enforce quarantine; courts issued mixed rulings, with some judges calling the restrictions unconstitutional while others upheld them.  Additionally, in January 2023, Attorney General Cameron ruled that Beshear's office violated the open records act by wrongly denying a request for communications regarding school closure decisions, an act critics described as "stonewalling" transparency for parents.

Prisoner Releases: While intended to protect medically vulnerable inmates, opponents highlighted cases where released individuals committed new felonies, including sexual abuse and homicide, though fact-checkers noted some ads exaggerated the direct causal link.
Church Restrictions: The administration faced intense backlash for targeting religious gatherings while allowing other activities, leading to comparisons by plaintiffs to historical civil rights violations.
School Closures: Beyond the records dispute, Beshear faced criticism for ordering schools to stop in-person learning in November 2020, which opponents linked to significant learning loss.

Andy is an ashole, but he is just the type many DEMS are going to rally around.

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« Reply #73 on: Today at 11:14 am »
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 :bingo:

Baby Beshear (whose Daddy was governor before Matt Bevin and a dirty, dirty rat) was elected because the Teachers' Union went on a nuclear-bombing campaign against Matt Bevin when he attempted to mitigate the insolvency of the teachers' pension fund. The pension fund was billions of dollars in the hole, and Beshear ran on the idea that he would fix it without any concessions on the part of the teachers. In other words, he lied.

Little Andy was a giant tyrant during Covid and what a surprise(!) the teachers pension fund is still billions of dollars in the hole.

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Baby Beshear (whose Daddy was governor before Matt Bevin and a dirty, dirty rat) was elected because the Teachers' Union went on a nuclear-bombing campaign against Matt Bevin when he attempted to mitigate the insolvency of the teachers' pension fund. The pension fund was billions of dollars in the hole, and Beshear ran on the idea that he would fix it without any concessions on the part of the teachers. In other words, he lied.

Little Andy was a giant tyrant during Covid and what a surprise(!) the teachers pension fund is still billions of dollars in the hole.

Wow, a pension fund that is that far in the hole isn't likely to payout very little if anything.  So ... those that contributed get to see their money just vanish.
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