Author Topic: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3  (Read 61030 times)

0 Members and 15 Guests are viewing this topic.

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2250 on: April 08, 2026, 01:43:47 pm »
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2251 on: April 08, 2026, 01:52:30 pm »
Further --- Trump Left JD Vance Out of Key Iran Meeting—but Invited Jared Kushner

............New reporting from The New York Times on Tuesday provided key insight into what convinced Trump to go to war.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu personally attended a meeting at the White House on February 11, the Times reported, along with most top members of Trump’s Cabinet. The head of Israel’s foreign intelligence agency, David Barnea, attended virtually.

Also present was the president’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, the slimy businessman who has been a key negotiator in the Middle East since Trump’s reelection, despite not holding an official staff position in the White House.

Conspicuously absent was JD Vance, who was in Azerbaijan for a diplomatic visit. The Times reported that the meeting “had been scheduled on such short notice that he was unable to make it back in time.” But it’s interesting that the most supposedly antiwar figure inside Trump’s Cabinet wasn’t invited to the meeting that convinced the president to kickstart the conflict.

Netanyahu gave an hour-long presentation arguing that Iran’s missile program was weak and could be toppled by U.S. munitions, leading to an easy victory in the region, according to the Times. From there, the prime minister said, a new government could be installed by the U.S. and Israel.

Netanyahu’s speech reportedly worked in convincing the president that war was desirable—and Trump’s underlings, while they would raise a few objections in the coming weeks, fell in line.

“Even the more skeptical members of Mr. Trump’s war cabinet—with the stark exception of Mr. Vance, the figure inside the White House most opposed to a full-scale war—deferred to the president’s instincts, including his abundant confidence that the war would be quick and decisive,” the Times reported......

https://newrepublic.com/post/208741/donald-trump-jd-vance-jared-kushner-iran-war-meeting
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Offline Idiot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,323
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2252 on: April 08, 2026, 01:52:43 pm »
....Well, there's that.  Now Trump's reaction is  ..... ?????
His spokeswoman is speaking now.  She seemed to indicate that what is being said publicly by Iran is different from what's actually happening.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2026, 01:53:58 pm by Idiot »

Online Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,947
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2253 on: April 08, 2026, 01:53:31 pm »

Now we learn that the magic duo of Witkoff & Kushner were the negotiators. Pieces of the deal are falling into place, slowly ...

Who else, and yet again Witkoff lets himself get suckered, this time by the Pakistanis who were just helping their "brothers."

aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," "sock puppet," and "Timber Bunny."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Online Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,947
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2254 on: April 08, 2026, 01:56:47 pm »
Now we learn?  Seems like this was well known from the start.

Well early this morning they were crediting J.D. Vance for handling the Pakistanis.  The truth is, that Trump has so many different people out trying to make deals that he probably doesn't know himself.
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," "sock puppet," and "Timber Bunny."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Online DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 48,880
  • Gender: Male
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2255 on: April 08, 2026, 02:05:55 pm »
Well early this morning they were crediting J.D. Vance for handling the Pakistanis.  The truth is, that Trump has so many different people out trying to make deals that he probably doesn't know himself.

LOL  You just can't help yourself.

* Captures Mr. and Mrs. Maduro in their pajamas without losing man or machine.

* Brings the Iranian leadership, Navy and Air Force to destruction in less than a month.

* The B-52s, the B1 and B2 are all locked and loaded.

* What's another 24 hour delay (to destroy their infrastructure??  A little magnanimity goes and long way in this Tik-Tok world.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

Online Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,947
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2256 on: April 08, 2026, 02:11:56 pm »
LOL  You just can't help yourself.

* Captures Mr. and Mrs. Maduro in their pajamas without losing man or machine.

* Brings the Iranian leadership, Navy and Air Force to destruction in less than a month.

* The B-52s, the B1 and B2 are all locked and loaded.

* What's another 24 hour delay (to destroy their infrastructure??  A little magnanimity goes and long way in this Tik-Tok world.


Listen dude, I'm old enough to remember all the evil that the Iranian Islamic Republic has brought to the world since 1979, along with all the dead and wounded Americans, beginning with the 1983 Beirut Marine Barracks bombing.  So it's finally payback time, and I want to see Trump finish the job and win, and settle all "family business" in the Middle East, once and for all.

Making deals, implementing absurd ceasefires, and recalling our big strategic strike packages at the last possible minute ain't doing that.

Finish the regime and be done with it, and stop with the stupid dealmaking.

That's all I want out of this.  The end of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," "sock puppet," and "Timber Bunny."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2257 on: April 08, 2026, 02:17:07 pm »
Well early this morning they were crediting J.D. Vance for handling the Pakistanis.  The truth is, that Trump has so many different people out trying to make deals that he probably doesn't know himself.

I'm beginning to get the feeling that should things go awry from this point forward Vance is going to find himself as the fall guy.

DEMS would love to see both Vance and Trump impeached. Depending on the mid terms, if those impeachments were successful that would put Jeffries in the WH and would be one of our worst nightmares but the GOP should get off their butts and start getting a reality check on things.

I'm still wanting to know where Rubio is???  Did Kushner and Witcoff stuff him in a closet somewhere??
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2258 on: April 08, 2026, 02:18:18 pm »
Listen dude, I'm old enough to remember all the evil that the Iranian Islamic Republic has brought to the world since 1979, along with all the dead and wounded Americans, beginning with the 1983 Beirut Marine Barracks bombing.  So it's finally payback time, and I want to see Trump finish the job and win, and settle all "family business" in the Middle East, once and for all.

Making deals, implementing absurd ceasefires, and recalling our big strategic strike packages at the last possible minute ain't doing that.

Finish the regime and be done with it, and stop with the stupid dealmaking.

That's all I want out of this.  The end of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

IMHO as long as Kushner has anything to do with negotiations, that's not going to happen.
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2259 on: April 08, 2026, 02:24:30 pm »
Quote
I'm still wanting to know where Rubio is???

Rubio has been dealing with NATO....
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Online Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,947
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2260 on: April 08, 2026, 02:25:55 pm »
Surprise!!!

After pager attack on Hezbollah, Hungary offered help to Iran

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/04/08/hungary-iran-hezbollah-trump-orban/

Quote
Soon after the deadly Israeli attack that caused thousands of Hezbollah pagers to explode in September 2024, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s government offered its assistance to Iran, the key sponsor of Hezbollah, considered a terrorist organization by the United States.

“Our secret service has already contacted your services and we will share all the information we have gathered during the investigation,” Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto told his Iranian counterpart, Abbas Araghchi, by telephone, according to a copy of a Hungarian government transcript of the Sept. 30 call obtained and authenticated by a Western intelligence service and reviewed by The Washington Post. “Every possible document will be shared with your services.”

EXCERPT

Go figure...
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," "sock puppet," and "Timber Bunny."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Online DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 48,880
  • Gender: Male
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2261 on: April 08, 2026, 02:26:51 pm »
Listen dude, I'm old enough to remember all the evil that the Iranian Islamic Republic has brought to the world since 1979, along with all the dead and wounded Americans, beginning with the 1983 Beirut Marine Barracks bombing.  So it's finally payback time, and I want to see Trump finish the job and win, and settle all "family business" in the Middle East, once and for all.

Making deals, implementing absurd ceasefires, and recalling our big strategic strike packages at the last possible minute ain't doing that.

Finish the regime and be done with it, and stop with the stupid dealmaking.

That's all I want out of this.  The end of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Yeah...you expressed that sentiment just yesterday, I believe.

On that we totally agree.

The difference here is that you suffer acute TDS.  I love the man!   
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2262 on: April 08, 2026, 02:30:51 pm »
Vance heading to Pakistan for negotiations about Iran this weekend, White House says

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Wednesday that Vice President JD Vance is heading to Pakistan this weekend for talks about negotiations about the conflict with Iran.

"I can announce that the president is dispatching his negotiating team, led by the vice president of the United States, JD Vance, Special Envoy Witkoff and Mr. Kushner to Islamabad for talks this weekend," she said.

"The first round of those talks will take place on Saturday morning local time, and we know we look forward to those in-person meetings," she added.

President Donald Trump had announced Tuesday that, based on conversations with Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Field Marshal Asim Munir, he would delay the "bombing and attack of Iran" for two weeks in a ceasefire deal.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-us-iran-war-ceasefire-strait-hormuz-israel-live-updates-04-08-2026
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2266 on: April 08, 2026, 02:44:56 pm »
Brian Allen
@allenanalysis
·
42m
The White House just confirmed it:

The 10-point peace plan Iran published on Wednesday is NOT the same plan Trump said was "a workable basis to negotiate."

Iran released one version. Trump approved a different one.

The public doesn't know what Trump actually agreed to. The press doesn't know. Congress doesn't know.

But we're calling it a ceasefire anyway.

Never stop connecting the dots.
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Online DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 48,880
  • Gender: Male
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2269 on: April 08, 2026, 03:02:20 pm »
Gunther Eagleman™
@GuntherEagleman
·
42m
🚨 All those hysterical predictions from the left completely FAILED:

No forever war
Gas prices didn’t spike to $6+
No boots on the ground
No wave of refugees flooding in

Every single doomsday scenario they screamed about… never happened.




https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2041890235873694181
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2270 on: April 08, 2026, 03:02:38 pm »
White House Confident Vance Will Be Safe For In-Person Peace Talks

Leavitt told Daily Wire White House Correspondent Mary Margaret Olohan that the White House is confident that Vice President JD Vance will be safe during in-person peace talks in Islamabad.


President Trump said earlier on Wednesday that he wasn't sure if Vance would be part of the peace talks, citing concerns about safety and security.


Leavitt said during the White House briefing that the administration "fully trusts the United States Secret Service to do their job to keep the vice president and the president's negotiating team safe."
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2271 on: April 08, 2026, 03:03:31 pm »
If this guy is still alive nothing has changed for the Iranian people


https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2041930457365844046
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2272 on: April 08, 2026, 03:03:50 pm »
I'm not sure where you got the 200M figure, but it's $2,000,000 per vessel.

Thanks for the correction @Idiot
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2276 on: April 08, 2026, 03:18:48 pm »
CENTCOM holds troop withdrawals as 50,000 US forces remain in Middle East

Fox News has learned U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) it is not withdrawing any forces yet from the Middle East amid ceasefire negotiations.

Officials said 50,000 US troops across all branches remain in the Middle East, including two aircraft carrier strike groups — the USS Abraham Lincoln and USS George H.W. Bush, which is switching out with the USS Gerald R. Ford.

Nearly 20 warships and more than a dozen air squadrons also remain.

Fox News' Jennifer Griffin contributed to this report.
Posted by Alexandra Koch
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Online Right_in_Virginia

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 86,459
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2279 on: April 08, 2026, 03:31:30 pm »
Perhaps Hegseth, Kushner and Witcoff.... General Caine gave Trump a warning that Iran cannot be trusted.  When has Trump ever listened -- except to his weasel SIL?

A little more info @libertybele ...

Quote
Report: Before war, top US officials told Trump that Netanyahu’s regime change plan was ‘bullshit, farcical’
Times of Israel, Apr 7, 2026

The New York Times reveals details of a series of situation room meetings held by US President Donald Trump in the lead up to the start of the war with Iran, including one in which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly pitched a plan that would see the end of the Islamic Republic’s regime, apparently later described by the CIA chief as “farcical” and US Secretary of State Marco Rubio as “bullshit.”

According to the report, Netanyahu gave a presentation to a small meeting including the US president on February 11 that outlined plans for a potential conflict.

The Israeli premier apparently suggested that Iran’s ballistic missileThe New York Times reveals details of a series of situation room meetings held by US President Donald Trump in the lead up to the start of the war with Iran, including one in which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly pitched a plan that would see the end of the Islamic Republic’s regime, apparently later described by the CIA chief as “farcical” and US Secretary of State Marco Rubio as “bullshit.”

Additionally, it was apparently said that Mossad had indicated that the protest movement could be reignited, with the spy agency playing a role, allowing the Iranian opposition to take power amid an intensive campaign of airstrikes. The report says the Israeli team also suggested Kurdish fighters could enter Iran from Iraq in a ground operation.

According to the Times, a day later, CIA Director John Ratcliffe told a meeting of top US officials, including Trump, that Netanyahu’s presentation on potential regime change was “farcical.”

The report says that Rubio then said: “In other words, it’s bullshit.”

When Trump asked Gen. Dan Caine, chair of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, for his opinion, the top military official reportedly told the president that the plan from the Israelis appeared overblown.

“Sir, this is, in my experience, standard operating procedure for the Israelis. They oversell, and their plans are not always well-developed. They know they need us, and that’s why they’re hard-selling,” Caine reportedly said.

The report says that, in fact, Trump appeared most interested in killing the then supreme leader Ali Khamenei and delivering a blow to the regime’s military capabilities, with other aspects of the plan less relevant.

“Over the following days, General Caine shared with Mr. Trump and others the alarming military assessment that a major campaign against Iran would drastically deplete stockpiles of American weaponry, including missile interceptors, whose supply had been strained after years of support for Ukraine and Israel. General Caine saw no clear path to quickly replenishing these stockpiles,” the report says.

“He also flagged the enormous difficulty of securing the Strait of Hormuz and the risks of Iran blocking it. Mr. Trump had dismissed that possibility on the assumption that the regime would capitulate before it came to that. The president appeared to think it would be a very quick war — an impression that had been reinforced by the tepid response to the US bombing of Iran’s nuclear facilities in June,” the New York Times says.

The newspaper says that while Caine’s colleagues believed the military official thought war with Iran was a bad idea, he did not tell Trump his opinion on the matter.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-before-war-top-us-officials-told-trump-that-netanyahus-regime-change-plan-was-bullshit-farcical/.

Online Right_in_Virginia

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 86,459
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2280 on: April 08, 2026, 03:37:07 pm »
White House Confident Vance Will Be Safe For In-Person Peace Talks

Leavitt told Daily Wire White House Correspondent Mary Margaret Olohan that the White House is confident that Vice President JD Vance will be safe during in-person peace talks in Islamabad.


President Trump said earlier on Wednesday that he wasn't sure if Vance would be part of the peace talks, citing concerns about safety and security.


Leavitt said during the White House briefing that the administration "fully trusts the United States Secret Service to do their job to keep the vice president and the president's negotiating team safe."

This could all have ended last night in unconditional Iranian surrender.  **nononono*

Online Timber Rattler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,947
  • Conservative Purist and Patriot
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2281 on: April 08, 2026, 03:39:03 pm »
Vance heading to Pakistan for negotiations about Iran this weekend, White House says

"I can announce that the president is dispatching his negotiating team, led by the vice president of the United States, JD Vance, Special Envoy Witkoff and Mr. Kushner to Islamabad for talks this weekend," she said.


Are they bringing their own white flag...

aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," "sock puppet," and "Timber Bunny."

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  ---George Orwell

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2282 on: April 08, 2026, 03:46:31 pm »
A little more info @libertybele ...

Sigh....not what I wanted to read, if true, it is very concerning.
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2283 on: April 08, 2026, 03:49:29 pm »
This could all have ended last night in unconditional Iranian surrender.  **nononono*

Yes it sure could have.

Sorry, I just don't trust our SS and I trust Kushner and his sidekick even less. 

Prayers up for the safety of Vance. 
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Online bigheadfred

  • TBR Contributor
  • *****
  • Posts: 17,824
  • Gender: Male
  • One day Closer
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2285 on: April 08, 2026, 04:02:00 pm »

Open Source Intel
@Osint613
·
1h
Despite a ceasefire, Iran launched 94 drones and 23 missiles at Gulf states.

Kuwait faced 28 drones, some hitting oil, power, and desalination facilities.

UAE intercepted 17 missiles and 35 drones; debris struck the Habshan gas complex, injuring three.

Bahrain intercepted 6 missiles and 31 drones, with shrapnel damaging homes in Sitra.
She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2286 on: April 08, 2026, 04:04:46 pm »

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/2041964170531283136

We get it JD .... BTW how are the fraud cases going; in particular Omar and Walz?
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Online DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 48,880
  • Gender: Male
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2287 on: April 08, 2026, 04:09:23 pm »
Open Source Intel
@Osint613
·
1h
Despite a ceasefire, Iran launched 94 drones and 23 missiles at Gulf states.

Kuwait faced 28 drones, some hitting oil, power, and desalination facilities.

UAE intercepted 17 missiles and 35 drones; debris struck the Habshan gas complex, injuring three.

Bahrain intercepted 6 missiles and 31 drones, with shrapnel damaging homes in Sitra.

When you're dealing with devote Muslim militants, who are ALL that remains in the wrecked military and ruling hierarchy of Iran, it shouldn't be unusual to see these "breaches" of a so-called negotiated agreement.

We don't know if their military in the field are speaking to one another.   :shrug:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

Offline DefiantMassRINO

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,948
  • Gender: Male
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2288 on: April 08, 2026, 04:14:33 pm »


Kill all the IRGC before the Wars Powers Act kicks in.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2026, 04:17:41 pm by DefiantMassRINO »
"Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it’s entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." - Alan Simpson, Frontline Video Interview

Offline MeganC

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,060
  • Gender: Female
  • RUSSIA MUST BE DESTROYED!!!
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2289 on: April 08, 2026, 04:24:37 pm »
Open Source Intel
@Osint613
·
1h
Despite a ceasefire, Iran launched 94 drones and 23 missiles at Gulf states.

Kuwait faced 28 drones, some hitting oil, power, and desalination facilities.

UAE intercepted 17 missiles and 35 drones; debris struck the Habshan gas complex, injuring three.

Bahrain intercepted 6 missiles and 31 drones, with shrapnel damaging homes in Sitra.

As if the Iranians would keep their word. Utterly dishonarable and untrustworthy carpet merchants.
When the symbol of anti-government resistance is your national flag then your government is the enemy of your nation.

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 417,785
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2290 on: April 08, 2026, 04:24:59 pm »


Kill all the IRGC before the Wars Powers Act kicks in.

Good idea....I like it!
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
Mark Twain


“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34


Smokin Joe: Stupid people vote. If you have enough of them, you don’t need to steal an election

Offline Wingnut

  • The problem with everything is they try and make it better without realizing the old way is fine.
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,604
  • Gender: Male
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2291 on: April 08, 2026, 04:28:35 pm »
You don’t become cooler with age but you do care progressively less about being cool, which is the only true way to actually be cool.

Online 240B

  • Lord of all things Orange!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23,177
  • I refuse to be obstinate!
    • I try my best ...
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2292 on: April 08, 2026, 04:29:37 pm »

Iran Halting Ships In Strait Of Hormuz Despite Ceasefire

Trending Politics News
By Staff
April 8, 2026



Iran moved Wednesday to choke off shipping through the strategically vital Strait of Hormuz, launched attacks on regional energy infrastructure and escalated pressure on U.S. allies as President Donald Trump’s newly announced ceasefire agreement with Tehran sparked fierce backlash from prominent Republicans and conservative allies.

Iran initially allowed two oil tankers to pass through the Strait of Hormuz early Wednesday as the two-week ceasefire with the United States took effect, according to Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency.

But hours later, the outlet reported that all passage through the waterway had been suspended, saying the move came “simultaneous with Israel’s attacks on Lebanon.”

Iranian officials also threatened to destroy any tanker attempting to cross the strait without approval, with the regime reportedly imposing transit tolls of up to $2 million per vessel.

The developments mark a major escalation in the global energy standoff, as the Strait of Hormuz serves as one of the world’s most critical oil shipping lanes.

(more)
https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/report-iran-halting-ships-in-strait-of-hormuz-despite-traffic-trickling-higher-post-ceasefire-jrupp/
Sometimes, the enemy of my enemy, is also my enemy.
Islam sanitizes oppression. Islam rebrands cruelty as culture, and expects applause from Liberal fools for their Islamic progressivism.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2293 on: April 08, 2026, 04:31:26 pm »
Good idea....I like it!

Yeppers ... the "War Powers Act" is going to represent a problem.
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Online libertybele

  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 69,109
  • Gender: Female
Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

Offline BobfromWB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,920
  • Gender: Male
  • Fishing the line, Bristol Bay, AK. Memories ...
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2295 on: April 08, 2026, 04:37:05 pm »
Indeed I do.  It is unfortunate.  How many real-estate deals did Kushner make and how much $$$ is he lining his pockets with.

Meanwhile .... where is our Secy' of State in all of this???? Isn't he the one that should be negotiating?  I haven't read anything about him lately and it seems he's been put on the back burner and his role in the ME has been made insignificant??

The secretary of state can conduct negotiations, interpret, and terminate treaties relating to foreign policy. The secretary also can participate in international conferences, organizations, and agencies as a representative of the United States.

Kushner has NO official position, nor does he have any business representing the United States.  So remind me again as to why he's over in the ME??  During Trump's first presidency, he was his senior advisor and while he was in the ME made a deal with the Saudi's.  I wonder what kind of deal he made this time and with whom?

The snake is in the grass ...
Democrats would rather rule over ashes than govern a functioning Republic

Online Cyber Liberty

  • Coffee! Donuts! Kittens!
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 66,552
  • Gender: Male
  • 🌵🌵🌵
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2296 on: April 08, 2026, 04:47:21 pm »
Sigh....not what I wanted to read, if true, it is very concerning.

Take it with a block of salt.  This poster called for Trump to be removed with the 25th Amendment last night....
I don’t owe tolerance to people who disagree with my existence.
I will NOT comply.
 
Castillo del Cyber Autonomous Zone ~~~~~>                          :dontfeed:

Offline BobfromWB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,920
  • Gender: Male
  • Fishing the line, Bristol Bay, AK. Memories ...
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2297 on: April 08, 2026, 04:49:23 pm »
Surprise!!!

After pager attack on Hezbollah, Hungary offered help to Iran

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/04/08/hungary-iran-hezbollah-trump-orban/

EXCERPT

Go figure...

Makes sense to me. Russia and Iran are allies, Orban is a Russian toady. So helping Iran comes as natural as breathing to him. Too bad the junior Pit Bull went to Hungry to help keep the fat frog in power. Orban losing the upcoming election would be the best thing that happened to Europe this year.


Democrats would rather rule over ashes than govern a functioning Republic

Offline BobfromWB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,920
  • Gender: Male
  • Fishing the line, Bristol Bay, AK. Memories ...
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2298 on: April 08, 2026, 04:51:04 pm »
Yeah...you expressed that sentiment just yesterday, I believe.

On that we totally agree.

The difference here is that you suffer acute TDS.  I love the man!

He's being realistic, you are blinded by man love.
Democrats would rather rule over ashes than govern a functioning Republic

Offline BobfromWB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,920
  • Gender: Male
  • Fishing the line, Bristol Bay, AK. Memories ...
Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2299 on: April 08, 2026, 05:00:15 pm »

Shouldn't Rubio be negotiating??? So the Iranians don't want him making a deal - - too bad.


Now we know what happened to Lil' Marco:



Democrats would rather rule over ashes than govern a functioning Republic